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Bellossom (Pokémon)

2016-12-11T02:24:06Z

$aturn¥oshi: /* Trivia */ No longer applies to Bellossom as Ribombee is shorter.

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{{Pokémon Infobox
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|jname=キレイハナ
|tmname=Kireihana
|ndex=182
|jdex=086
|hdex=091
|hdex6=094
|karea=Central
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|obrow=130
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|category=Flower
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|ability1=Chlorophyll
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|evtotal=3
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|lv100exp=1,059,860
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|color=Green
|catchrate=45
|body=12
|pokefordex=bellossom
|generation=2
|friendship=70
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'''Bellossom''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''キレイハナ''' ''Kireihana'') is a {{type|Grass}} Pokémon.

It [[Evolution|evolves]] from {{p|Gloom}} when exposed to a {{evostone|Sun Stone}}. It is one of {{p|Oddish}}'s final forms, the other being {{p|Vileplume}}.

==Biology==
Bellossom is a primarily green Pokémon with circular blue eyes and red markings on its cheeks. It has two bright red flowers on its head and green and yellow leaves around its waist that resemble a skirt, all adding to the appearance of a hula dancer. Bellossom's petals are said to be more beautiful the worse the {{p|Gloom}} it evolved from smelled. When it rubs the petals on its head together, it creates a pleasing sound. Bellossom does not possess feet; in the [[EP122|anime]], its center-most leaves bent as it was getting ready to spring, suggesting that it uses its leaves as substitutes for feet or legs. However, the Pokédex does classify it as a biped.

Bellossom is often seen dancing and chanting. In particular, Bellossom dances when cloudy weather persists, or when the heavy rainfall season ends and it is drawn out by the warm sunlight. It lives in {{DL|List of Pokémon by habitat|Grassland Pokémon|grassy plains}}.

==In the anime==
[[File:Bellossom anime.png|thumb|250px|Bellossom in the {{pkmn|anime}}]]
===Major appearances===
Bellossom's first major appearance was in ''[[EP122|Flower Power]]''. A girl named [[Bailey]] had a pair that she wanted to be able to a dance, but one of them was having trouble with the somersault that the dance required.

In ''[[EP239|Whichever Way the Wind Blows]]'', there was a meadow in which Gloom evolved by collecting sediments of either Leaf Stones or Sun Stones that blew in the wind. The {{p|Vileplume}} and Bellossom were feuding in that area.

A Bellossom under the ownership of [[Noelle]] appeared in ''[[DP138|Strategy Begins at Home!]]''.

A Bellossom under the ownership of a female {{pkmn|Trainer}} appeared in ''[[XY057|Thawing an Icy Panic!]]''; [[Clemont's Chespin|Chespin]] wanted to give it a flower, but it refused its request.

A Bellossom appeared in ''[[PK27|Pikachu and the Pokémon Music Squad]]''.

===Minor appearances===
Bellossom first appeared in ''[[PK04|Pikachu's Rescue Adventure]]''.

A Bellossom was one of the Pokémon seen at the Pokémon Swap Meet in ''[[EP146|Tricks of the Trade]]''.

Two Bellossom appeared in ''[[EP178|The Grass Route]]''. One belonged to [[Ephraim's parents]] and another belonged to a {{pkmn|Trainer}} participating in the [[Grass Tournament]].

Bellossom were dancing in a grassy field and Togepi joined in, in the episode ''[[EP180|Houndoom's Special Delivery]]''.

Three Bellossom appeared in {{an|Brock}}'s dream in ''[[EP193|Sick Daze]]'', dancing and singing.

Bellossom was in a garden that [[Ash's Bayleef]] ran off to in ''[[EP200|Turning Over a New Bayleef]]''.

Multiple Bellossom also appeared in ''[[M04|Celebi: Voice of the Forest]]''.

Three Bellossom were seen in the wild in ''[[The Legend of Thunder!]]''.

Three Bellossom were among the inhabitants of an oasis just for Pokémon in ''[[EP207|Got Miltank?]]''.

Multiple Bellossom were among the feuding Pokémon at [[Professor Oak's Laboratory]] in ''[[EP225|Bulbasaur... the Ambassador!]]''.

{{OBP|Tammy|EP249}} from ''[[EP249|I Politoed Ya So!]]'' had some Bellossom in her cheerleading squad.

Several Bellossom were among the inhabitants of the [[Dragon Holy Land]] in ''[[EP252|Fangs for Nothin']]''.

Three Bellossom appeared in the wild in ''[[EP258|Hatch Me If You Can]]''.

Several Bellossom were among the Pokémon seen at [[Professor Oak's Laboratory]] in ''[[SS004|Showdown at the Oak Corral]]''.

An injured Bellossom appeared under the care of {{OBP|Katrina|AG011}} in ''[[AG011|A Bite to Remember]]''.

A group of Bellossom were found in a field by {{an|May}} in ''[[AG014|All in a Day's Wurmple]]''.

A Bellossom was used by one of the students of the [[Pokémon Trainer's School]] in ''[[AG015|Gonna Rule The School!]]''.

A {{pkmn|Coordinator}}'s Bellossom appeared in ''[[AG035|Win, Lose or Drew!]]'' competing in the {{ci|Slateport}} {{pkmn|Contest}}.

A Bellossom appeared in ''[[DP086|Arriving in Style!]]'' under the ownership of a [[Pokémon Stylist]] competing in the [[Hearthome Collection]].

Two Bellossom made a cameo in the third {{series|Diamond & Pearl}} [[Pokémon movie]], ''[[M12|Arceus and the Jewel of Life]]''.

A Bellossom appeared in ''[[DP171|Dawn of a Royal Day!]]'' under the ownership of a Pokémon Coordinator competing in the {{to|Arrowroot}} Contest.

Bellossom also appeared in ''[[M13|Zoroark: Master of Illusions]]'', as few of the many wild Pokémon who live in [[Crown City]].

A Bellossom appeared in ''[[BW127|The Island of Illusions!]]'' as an image.

A group of Bellossom also appeared in ''[[M16|Genesect and the Legend Awakened]]'' at [[Pokémon Hills]].

A Bellossom appeared as a plush toy in ''[[XY016|A Jolting Switcheroo!]]''.

A Bellossom appeared in ''[[XY026|A Battle by Any Other Name!]]''.

Two Bellossom appeared in ''[[XY047|Dreaming a Performer's Dream!]]''.

Multiple Bellossom also appeared in ''[[XY057|Thawing an Icy Panic!]]'' in [[Ramos]]' ranch.

A Trainer's Bellossom appeared in ''[[XY136|Forming a More Perfect Union!]]''.

===Pokédex entries===
{{Animedexheader|Johto}}
{{Animedexbody|EP122|Bellossom|Ash's Pokédex|Bellossom, the Flower Pokémon. When these Pokémon move, their delicate petals rub together, creating a pleasant sound. They are also known for their unique acrobatic dancing abilities.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|original|Johto}}

==In the manga==
[[File:Erika Bellossom Adventures.png|thumb|150px|Bellossom in [[Pokémon Adventures]]]]
===In the Magical Pokémon Journey manga===
In [[Magical Pokémon Journey]], {{MPJ|Pikachu}} and {{MPJ|Clefairy}} rescue Princess Bellossom of the Flower Kingdom from Prince Sudowoodo of the Stone Kingdom in ''[[PPP45|Pikachu and Clefairy's Heroic Tales]]''.

===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
Bellossom debuted in ''[[PS091|Murkrow Row]]'' when {{adv|Gold}} helped [[Joey]] get his bag back; it was one of the Pokémon in the bag.

In ''[[PS143|Irked Igglybuff and Curmudgeonly Cleffa]]'', a Bellossom ice sculpture was one of the many sculpture Pryce made in his gym.

In ''[[PS163|Bringing up Bellossom]]'', [[Erika]] owns a group of Bellossom who presumably help her in flower arrangement. One of them battled [[Pryce]]'s {{p|Swinub}} during the Gym Leaders' exhibition matches at Indigo Plateau.
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===Pokédex entries===
{{Mangadexheader}}
{{Mangadexbody|Pokémon Adventures|[[PS163]]|They will sometimes gather and start dancing. It's also known as a ritual dance to worship the sun.{{tt|*|Chuang Yi's translation}}}}
{{Mangadexfooter}}

==In the TCG==
{{main|Bellossom (TCG)}}

==Other appearances==
[[File:Sleep Powder SSBB.png|220px|thumb|Bellossom in [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]]]
===[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]===
When released from a [[Poké Ball]], Bellossom will use its {{m|Sweet Scent}} to put any nearby opponents into a deep sleep. As Bellossom stays on-screen for longer than most Pokémon, this gives the thrower time to power up a smash move. It is also available as a trophy.

====Trophy information====
"''From time to time, these beautiful flower Pokémon will gather in numbers and perform an odd sort of dance to call out the sun. While in the midst of this strange exhibition, their petals brush together to create a peaceful and soothing melody. A Gloom will only evolve into a Bellossom if it's exposed to a {{evostone|Sun Stone}}.''"

===[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]===
Bellossom makes a return appearance in Brawl, once again using its {{m|Sweet Scent}} to put opponents to sleep and leave them vulnerable to attacks.

====Trophy Information====
''"A Flower Pokémon. After spells of cloudy weather, Bellossom will gather to call out the sun by performing a dance. When exposed long enough to the sun, the leaves on its body will spin around. {{a|Chlorophyll|A Bellossom's Speed is also known to increase with sun exposure}}. Its main specialty is poison attacks. Also, Bellossom will close its flowers when sleeping."''

===[[Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS/Wii U]]===
Bellossom returns as a Poké Ball summon, once again using {{m|Sweet Scent}} to put opponents to sleep.

====Trophy information====
'''NA''': ''A Grass-type Pokémon, Bellossom evolves from Gloom, losing its secondary Poison type. It also gets smaller. It's most common to find Bellossom in tropical climates, grouped together and dancing. In Smash Bros., the Sweet Scent from Bellossom can put even the most hardened fighters to sleep.''

'''PAL''': ''Two unusual things happen when Gloom evolves into Bellossom: it gets smaller, and it loses its secondary type, Poison, becoming a purely Grass-type Pokémon. These Pokémon are most commonly found in groups in the tropics. Here, the more damage fighters have taken, the longer Sweet Scent keeps them asleep!''

==Game data==

===NPC appearances===
{{spoilers}}
{{g|Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky}}: In the Special Episode [[Here Comes Team Charm!]], a Bellossom appears before the [[Southern Jungle]], attempting to convince [[Team Charm]] that there is no treasure in the [[Boulder Quarry]] ahead, but Team Charm proceed with their exploration anyway. This Bellossom is later revealed to be a disguise of {{p|Ditto}}, the guardian of [[Limestone Cavern]].

===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex/Header|type=grass}}
{{Dex/NA|gen=II}}
{{Dex/Gen|gen=II}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Gold|entry=Bellossom gather at times and appear to dance. They say that the dance is a ritual to summon the sun.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Silver|entry=Plentiful in the tropics. When it dances, its petals rub together and make a pleasant ringing sound.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Crystal|entry=When these dance together, their petals rub against each other, making pretty, relaxing sounds.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Stadium 2|t=FFF|color=000|entry=Bellossom gather at times and appear to dance. They say that the dance is a ritual to summon the sun.}}
|}
|}
{{Dex/Gen|gen=III}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Ruby|t=FFF|entry=When Bellossom get exposed to plenty of sunlight, the leaves ringing its body begin to spin around. This Pokémon's dancing is renowned in southern lands.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Sapphire|t=FFF|entry=A Bellossom grows flowers more beautifully if it evolves from a smelly {{p|Gloom}} - the stinkier the better. At night, this Pokémon closes its petals and goes to sleep.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Emerald|t=FFF|entry=Its flower petals deepen in color through exposure to sunlight. When cloudy weather persists, it does a dance that is thought to be a ritual for summoning the sun.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=FireRed|entry=Plentiful in the tropics. When it dances, its petals rub together and make a pleasant ringing sound.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=LeafGreen|entry=Bellossom gather at times and appear to dance. They say that the dance is a ritual to summon the sun.}}
|}
|}
{{Dex/Gen|gen=IV}}
{{Dex/Entry3|v=Diamond|v2=Pearl|v3=Platinum|entry=When the heavy rainfall season ends, it is drawn out by warm sunlight to dance in the open.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=HeartGold|entry=Bellossom gather at times and appear to dance. They say that the dance is a ritual to summon the sun.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=SoulSilver|entry=Plentiful in the tropics. When it dances, its petals rub together and make a pleasant ringing sound.}}
|}
|}
{{Dex/Gen|gen=V}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Black|v2=White|t=FFF|entry=When the heavy rainfall season ends, it is drawn out by warm sunlight to dance in the open.}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Black 2|v2=White 2|t=FFF|entry=When the heavy rainfall season ends, it is drawn out by warm sunlight to dance in the open.}}
|}
|}
{{Dex/Gen|gen=VI}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=X|t=FFF|entry=Bellossom gather at times and appear to dance. They say that the dance is a ritual to summon the sun.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Y|entry=When the heavy rainfall season ends, it is drawn out by warm sunlight to dance in the open.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Omega Ruby|t=fff|entry=When Bellossom gets exposed to plenty of sunlight, the leaves ringing its body begin to spin around. This Pokémon's dancing is renowned in the southern lands.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Alpha Sapphire|t=FFF|entry=A Bellossom grows flowers more beautifully if it has evolved from a smelly Gloom—the more stinky the better. At night, this Pokémon closes its petals and goes to sleep.}}
|}
|}
{{Dex/Footer}}

===Game locations===
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{{Availability/NA|gen=II}}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=II}}
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{{Availability/Entry1|v=Crystal|area=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Gloom}}}}
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{{Availability/Gen|gen=III}}
{{Availability/Entry2|v=Ruby|v2=Sapphire|t=FFF|t2=FFF|area=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Gloom}}}}
{{Availability/Entry1|v=Emerald|t=FFF|area=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Gloom}}}}
{{Availability/Entry1|v=FireRed|area=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Gloom}}}}
{{Availability/Entry1/None|v=LeafGreen}}
{{Availability/Entry1/None|v=Colosseum}}
{{Availability/Entry1/None|v=XD|link=Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness}}
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{{Availability/Entry2|v=Diamond|v2=Pearl|area=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Gloom}}}}
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{{Availability/Entry2|v=HeartGold|v2=SoulSilver|area=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Gloom}}}}
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{{Availability/Gen|gen=V}}
{{Availability/Entry1/None|v=Black}}
{{Availability/Entry1|v=White|area=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Gloom}}}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=Black 2|v2=White 2}}
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{{Availability/Gen|gen=VI}}
{{Availability/Entry2|v=X|v2=Y|t=fff|area=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Gloom}}}}
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{{Availability/Gen|gen=VII}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=Sun|v2=Moon|area=[[Pokémon Bank|Transfer]]}}
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{{Availability/Footer}}

====In side games====
{{Availability/Header|type=Grass}}
{{Availability/NA|gen=II}}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=II}}
{{Availability/Entry1|1|v=Puzzle Challenge|color={{gold color}}|area=Defeat a {{tc|Lass}} after defeating any Trainer in under 25 seconds in Challenge Mode}}
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{{Availability/Gen|gen=III}}
{{Availability/Entry1|v=Channel|color={{water color}}|area=[[Springleaf Field]]}}
{{Availability/Entry1|v=Pinball: R&S|link=Pokémon Pinball: Ruby & Sapphire|color={{ruby color}}|t=FFF|area=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Gloom}} ({{color2|{{sapphire color}}|Sapphire Field}})}}
{{Availability/Entry1|v=Trozei!|color={{yellow color}}|area={{PM|1|Phobos Train}}, [[Mr. Who's Den]]}}
{{Availability/Entry2|v=MD Red|v2=MD Blue|link=Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team|area=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Gloom}}}}
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|}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=IV}}
{{Availability/Entry2|v=MD Time|v2=MD Darkness|link=Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|area=[[Marine Resort]] (B1-B19)}}
{{Availability/Entry1|v=MD Sky|link=Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky|area=[[Marine Resort]] (B1-B19)}}
{{Availability/Entry1|v=Ranger: SoA|color={{SoA color}}|link=Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia|area=[[Hippowdon Temple]]}}

{{Availability/Entry1|v=PokéPark Wii|color={{grass color}}|link=PokéPark Wii: Pikachu's Adventure|area=[[Flower Zone]]}}
{{Availability/Entry1|v=Ranger: GS|color={{GS color}}|link=Pokémon Ranger: Guardian Signs|area=[[Latolato Trail]]}}
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{{Availability/Gen|gen=V}}
{{Availability/Entry1|1|v=Rumble Blast|color={{fire color}}|area=Forest: [[Everspring Valley]] (post-ending)}}
{{Availability/Entry1|1|v=PokéPark 2|link=PokéPark 2: Wonders Beyond|color={{grass color}}|area=[[Crag Area]]}}
{{Availability/Entry1|1|v=Rumble U|color={{fire color}}|area=[[Flower Garden#The Garden at the End of Time|Flower Garden: The Garden at the End of Time]]}}
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{{Availability/Gen|gen=VI}}
{{Availability/Entry1|1|v=Battle Trozei|color={{defense color}}|area=[[Safari Jungle#Tuesday Stage 2|Safari Jungle: Stage 2]]{{dotw|Tu}}}}
{{Availability/Entry1|1|v=Shuffle|color={{beauty color}}|area=Event: ''[[Special Stages#Great Challenge|Bellossom Appears]]''}}
{{Availability/Entry1|1|v=Rumble World|color={{fire color}}|area=[[Leafy Expanse#Royal Garden|Leafy Expanse: Royal Garden]] (All Areas)}}
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{{Availability/Footer}}

===Stats===
====Base stats====
=====Generation II-V=====
{{BaseStats|
type=grass|
HP=75|
Attack=80|
Defense=85|
SpAtk=90|
SpDef=100|
Speed=50}}

=====Generation VI=====
{{BaseStats|
type=grass|
HP=75|
Attack=80|
Defense=95|
SpAtk=90|
SpDef=100|
Speed=50}}

====Pokéathlon stats====
{{Pokéthlon
|type=grass
|Speed=3
|SpeedMax=4
|Power=2
|PowerMax=3
|Technique=4
|TechniqueMax=5
|Stamina=3
|StaminaMax=3
|Jump=3
|JumpMax=4
}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{TypeEffectiveness|
type1=grass|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 200 |
Poison= 200 |
Ground= 50 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 200 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 200 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric= 50 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 200 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 |
Fairy= 100}}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{learnlist/levelh/7|Bellossom|Grass|Grass|2}}
{{learnlist/level7|1|Magical Leaf|Grass|Special|60|—|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level7|1|Leaf Storm|Grass|Special|130|90|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/level7|1|Leaf Blade|Grass|Physical|90|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/level7|1|Mega Drain|Grass|Special|40|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/level7|1|Sweet Scent|Normal|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/level7|1|Stun Spore|Grass|Status|—|75|30}}
{{learnlist/level7|1|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/level7|{{tt|Evo.|Learned upon evolving}}|Magical Leaf|Grass|Special|60|—|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level7|39|Quiver Dance|Bug|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/level7|49|Petal Blizzard|Grass|Physical|90|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/level7|59|Petal Dance|Grass|Special|120|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/level7|69|Leaf Storm|Grass|Special|130|90|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/levelf/7|Bellossom|Grass|Grass|2}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{learnlist/tmh/7|Bellossom|Grass|Grass|2}}
{{learnlist/tm7|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|90|10}}
{{learnlist/tm7|TM09|Venoshock|Poison|Special|65|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm7|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm7|TM11|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm7|TM15|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5}}
{{learnlist/tm7|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm7|TM20|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|—|25}}
{{learnlist/tm7|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm7|TM22|Solar Beam|Grass|Special|120|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm7|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm7|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/tm7|TM36|Sludge Bomb|Poison|Special|90|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm7|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm7|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm7|TM45|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm7|TM48|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm7|TM53|Energy Ball|Grass|Special|90|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm7|TM56|Fling|Dark|Physical|—|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm7|TM68|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5}}
{{learnlist/tm7|TM75|Swords Dance|Normal|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm7|TM83|Infestation|Bug|Special|20|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm7|TM86|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|—|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm7|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|85|15}}
{{learnlist/tm7|TM88|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm7|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm7|TM96|Nature Power|Normal|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm7|TM99|Dazzling Gleam|Fairy|Special|80|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm7|TM100|Confide|Normal|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tmf/7|Bellossom|Grass|Grass|2}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{learnlist/breedh/7|Bellossom|Grass|Grass|2}}
{{learnlist/breed7||After You|Normal|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/breed7||Charm|Fairy|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/breed7||Flail|Normal|Physical|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/breed7||Ingrain|Grass|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/breed7||Nature Power|Normal|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/breed7||Razor Leaf|Grass|Physical|55|95|25||'''}}
{{learnlist/breed7||Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}
{{learnlist/breed7||Synthesis|Grass|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/breed7||Teeter Dance|Normal|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/breed7||Tickle|Normal|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/breedf/7|Bellossom|Grass|Grass|2}}

====By [[Move Tutor|tutoring]]====
{{learnlist/tutorh/7|Bellossom|Grass|Grass|2}}
{{learnlist/tutor7null}}
{{learnlist/tutorf/7|Bellossom|Grass|Grass|2}}

====By a prior [[evolution]]====
{{learnlist/prevoh/7|Bellossom|Grass|Grass|2}}
{{learnlist/prevo7|043|Oddish|||||Moonblast|Fairy|Special|95|100|15}}
{{learnlist/prevo7|043|Oddish||044|Gloom||Absorb|Grass|Special|20|100|25|'''}}
{{learnlist/prevo7|043|Oddish||044|Gloom||Growth|Normal|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/prevo7|043|Oddish||044|Gloom||Acid|Poison|Special|40|100|30}}
{{learnlist/prevo7|043|Oddish||044|Gloom||Poison Powder|Poison|Status|—|75|35}}
{{learnlist/prevo7|043|Oddish||044|Gloom||Sleep Powder|Grass|Status|—|75|15}}
{{learnlist/prevo7|043|Oddish||044|Gloom||Lucky Chant|Normal|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/prevo7|043|Oddish||044|Gloom||Moonlight|Fairy|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/prevo7|043|Oddish||044|Gloom||Giga Drain|Grass|Special|75|100|10|'''}}
{{learnlist/prevo7|043|Oddish||044|Gloom||Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/prevo7|043|Oddish||044|Gloom||Grassy Terrain|Grass|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/prevof/7|Bellossom|Grass|Grass|2}}

===Side game data===
{{Spindata/Head|type=Grass}}
{{Spindata/PinballRS|col=3|type=Grass|ndex=182|acquisition=Evolve|evolved=yes}}
{{Spindata/Trozei|col=3|type=Grass|ndex=182|rarity=Rare}}
|-
{{Spindata/MDRB|col=6|type=Grass|ndex=182
|body=1
|rate=Evolve
|area=Jungle
|P1=My dancing soothes everyone!
|P2=What shall I do? I've lost half my HP.
|P3=I'm so sorry... I can't dance, I'm so beaten down...
|PL=Oh, yes! Leveled up! I'll dance more and more!
}}
|-
{{Spindata/MDTDS|col=6|type=Grass|ndex=182
|body=1
|rate=-4.5
|IQ=B
}}
|-
{{Spindata/Ranger SoA|col=6|type=Grass
|group=Grass
|assist=Grass
|field=Cut
|fieldpower=3
|browser=While protecting itself with leaves, it also scatters them to attack.
}}
|-
{{Spindata/Ranger GS|col=6|type=Grass
|group=Grass
|assist=Grass
|field=Cut
|fieldpower=3
|browser=It creates vines around itself that make Pokémon Slowed.
}}
|-
{{Spindata/RumbleBlast|col=6|type=Grass
|att=3
|def=4
|speed=3
}}
|-
{{Spindata/PokéPark|col=6|type=Grass|ndex=182
|Pad=Bellossom lives in the [[Flower Zone]]. She loves flowers! She gave you the Wonderful Watering Can that she found in the [[Beach Zone]]!
}}
|-
{{Spindata/PokéPark2|col=6|type=Grass|ndex=182
|pad=Their dream is to fill the [[Crag Area]] with flowers. They collect various seeds and plant them, but some Pokémon eat them.
}}
|-
{{Spindata/Battle Trozei|col=3|type=Grass|ndex=182
|power=3
}}
{{Spindata/Shuffle|col=6|type=Grass|ndex=182|num=482
|min=70
|max=90
|skill=Mind Zap
|skilldesc=Can reset your opponent's disruption counter to maximum.
}}
|}

===Evolution===
{{evobox-3
|type1=Grass
|no1=043
|name1=Oddish
|type1-1=Grass
|type2-1=Poison
|evo1={{bag|Rare Candy}} {{color2|000|Level|Level 21}}
|no2=044
|name2=Gloom
|type1-2=Grass
|type2-2=Poison
|evo2={{bag|Sun Stone}} {{color2|000|Evolutionary stone#Sun Stone|Sun Stone}}
|no3=182
|name3=Bellossom
|type1-3=Grass}}

===Sprites===
{{Spritebox/Header|type=grass}}
{{Spritebox/NA|gen=II}}
{{Spritebox/2|ndex=182}}
{{Spritebox/3|ndex=182}}
{{Spritebox/4|ndex=182}}
{{Spritebox/5|ndex=182}}
{{Spritebox/6|ndex=182}}
{{Spritebox/Footer|182|Bellossom}}

====Other sprites====
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|-
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{grass color dark}}; background: #{{grass color light}}"| [[File:Spr 2g Bellossom credits.png]]
|-
| Gold and Silver credits' sprite
|}

==Trivia==
[[File:1999 Bellossom Artwork.png|thumb|right|Bellossom's early artwork]]
* In its {{2v2|Gold|Silver}} artwork, and artwork made earlier, Bellossom's body is shown with a blue color instead of its usual green. This color is similar to that of its evolutionary relatives and its Shiny color in [[Generation II]].
* Bellossom is the only single-type Pokémon that evolves from a dual-type Pokémon (thus the only Pokémon which loses its secondary type upon evolution).
* Bellossom shares its {{pkmn|category}} with {{p|Vileplume}} and {{p|Bellsprout}}. They are all known as the Flower Pokémon.
* In [[Generation II]], Bellossom could not learn {{m|Sludge Bomb}} from TM36, despite its pre-evolutions being able to do so. This was fixed starting in [[Generation III]].

===Origin===
Bellossom may be based on a ''{{wp|Rafflesia keithii}}'' and a {{wp|hula}} dancer. Judging from its body structure and [[Pokédex]] entries, it may also be based on a bell.

====Name origin====
Bellossom is a combination of ''bella'' or ''belle'' (Spanish and French for ''pretty'') and ''blossom''. It may also involve ''bell''.

Kireihana is a combination of 綺麗 ''kirei'' (pretty) and 花 ''hana'' (flower). It may also involve 鈴 ''rei'' (bell).

==In other languages==
{{Other languages|type=grass|type2=grass
|ja=キレイハナ ''Kireihana''|jameaning=From 綺麗 ''kirei'' (pretty) and 花 ''hana'' (flower)
|fr=Joliflor|frmeaning=From ''{{tt|joli|pretty}}'' and ''{{tt|flore|flora}}''
|es=Bellossom|esmeaning=Same as English name
|de=Blubella|demeaning=From ''{{tt|Blume|flower}}'', ''{{tt|bella|Spanish for 'pretty'}}'', and possibly ''{{wp|bluebell}}''
|it=Bellossom|itmeaning=Same as English name
|ko=아르코 ''Areuko''|komeaning=From {{tt|아름다운 ''areumdaun''|beautiful}} and {{tt|꽃 ''kkoch''|flower}}
|zh_cmn=美麗花 / 美丽花 ''Měilìhuā''|zh_cmnmeaning=Literally "Beautiful flower"
|hi=बेल्लोसोम ''Bellossom''|himeaning=Transcription of English name
|ru=Беллосом ''Bellosom''|rumeaning=Transcription of English name
}}
{{left clear}}


==External links==

{{Smash Bros.}}
{{PokémonPrevNext/Head|type=Grass}}
{{PokémonPrevNext/Pokémon|type=Grass|prevnum=181|prev=Ampharos|nextnum=183|next=Marill}}
|}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}

[[Category:Pokémon with cross-generational evolutions]]
[[Category:Pokémon that appeared in the anime before their game debut]]

[[de:Blubella]]
[[fr:Joliflor]]
[[it:Bellossom]]
[[ja:キレイハナ]]
[[pl:Bellossom]]
[[zh:美丽花]]

Medal

2016-07-09T08:12:07Z

$aturn¥oshi: /* Pokémon GO */

{{samename|the equivalent of [[Badge]]s in {{ga|Pokémon Trading Card Game}}|Master Medal}} ''For the Pokéathlon prize, see [[Pokéathlon#Courses|Pokéathlon → Medals]].''
[[File:Medal-adventure1.png|thumb|A Level 1 Adventure Medal]]
'''Medals''' (Japanese: '''メダル''' ''Medal'') are a type of achievement in the [[core series]] [[Pokémon games]], [[Learn with Pokémon: Typing Adventure]], [[Pokémon Picross]], and [[Pokémon GO]].

==Generation V==
{{main|List of Medals in Pokémon Black 2 and White 2}}
In [[Pokémon Black and White Versions 2|Pokémon Black 2 and White 2]], Medals are given by Mr. Medal in the [[Pokémon Center]] when talking to him after meeting their requirements, and are stored in the {{key|V|Medal Box}}. Mr. Medal will only appear when the player has unclaimed Medals they have achieved. There are 255 Medals in all, along with Hint Medals.

==Generation VI==
{{main|List of Medals in Pokémon X and Y}}
{{main|List of Medals in Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire}}
In [[Pokémon X and Y|Pokémon X, Y]], {{pkmn|Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire|Omega Ruby, and Alpha Sapphire}}, Medals are a part of the [[Pokémon Global Link]] rather than in-game items. When the player performs a [[Game Sync]], any achieved Medals are automatically unlocked.

==Learn with Pokémon: Typing Adventure==
{{incomplete|section}}
In [[Learn with Pokémon: Typing Adventure]], each course has specific requirements to obtain a bronze, silver and gold medal on that course. Obtaining a large number of medals grants the player access to unlockables.

<gallery>
Bronze Medal Typing Adventure.png|Bronze Medal
Silver Medal Typing Adventure.png|Silver Medal
Gold Medal Typing Adventure.png|Gold Medal
</gallery>

==Pokémon Picross==
{{main|Pokémon_Picross#Medals}}

Medals in Pokémon Picross are rewards for completing specific requirements in-game.

==Pokémon GO==
{{incomplete|section}}
In [[Pokémon GO]], there are a number of medals that the player can earn. Each potential medal can be earned at several different ranks.

{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{Pokémon color light}}; border: 5px solid #{{Pokémon color}}; margin:auto"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" class="roundy" style="background: #fff; border:1px solid #{{Pokémon color light}}; border-collapse:collapse; text-align:center"
|- style="background: #{{Pokémon color light}}"
! rowspan=2|Name
! colspan=3|Requirement
|-
! Bronze
! Silver
! Gold
|-
| Jogger
| Walk 10 km
|
|
|-
| Kanto
| Register 10 Pokémon in the Pokédex
| Register 50 Pokémon in the Pokédex
|
|-
| Collector
| Capture 30 Pokémon
| Capture 500 Pokémon
|
|-
| Scientist
| Evolve 3 Pokémon
|
|
|-
| Breeder
| Hatch 10 Eggs
|
|
|-
| Backpacker
| Visit 100 PokéStops
|
|
|-
| Battle Girl
| Win 10 Gym Battles
|
|
|-
| Ace Trainer
| Train 10 times
|
|
|-
| Schoolkid
| Catch 10 Normal-type Pokémon
| Catch 50 Normal-type Pokémon
|
|-
| Black Belt
| Catch 10 Fighting-type Pokémon
| Catch 50 Fighting-type Pokémon
|
|-
| Bird Keeper
| Catch 10 Flying-type Pokémon
| Catch 50 Flying-type Pokémon
|
|-
| Punk Girl
| Catch 10 Poison-type Pokémon
| Catch 50 Poison-type Pokémon
|
|-
| Bug Catcher
| Catch 10 Bug-type Pokémon
| Catch 50 Bug-type Pokémon
|
|-
| Swimmer
| Catch 10 Water-type Pokémon
| Catch 50 Water-type Pokémon
|
|-
| Gardener
| Catch 10 Grass-type Pokémon
| Catch 50 Grass-type Pokémon
|
|-
| Psychic
| Catch 10 Psychic-type Pokémon
| Catch 50 Psychic-type Pokémon
|
|-
| Fairy Tale Girl
| Catch 10 Fairy-type Pokémon
| Catch 50 Fairy-type Pokémon
|
|}
|}

==In other languages==
{{langtable|color={{gold color light}}|bordercolor={{gold color}}
|de=Medaille
|fr=Médaille
|it=Premi
|es=Insignia
|ko=메달 ''Medal''
}}

==See also==
* [[Badge]]
* [[Ribbon]]
* [[Symbol]]

{{Project Games notice}}

[[Category:Game mechanics]]

[[de:Medaille]]
[[fr:Médaille]]
[[it:Premi]]
[[ja:メダル]]
[[zh:奖章]]

Medal

2016-07-09T08:11:40Z

$aturn¥oshi: /* Pokémon GO */

{{samename|the equivalent of [[Badge]]s in {{ga|Pokémon Trading Card Game}}|Master Medal}} ''For the Pokéathlon prize, see [[Pokéathlon#Courses|Pokéathlon → Medals]].''
[[File:Medal-adventure1.png|thumb|A Level 1 Adventure Medal]]
'''Medals''' (Japanese: '''メダル''' ''Medal'') are a type of achievement in the [[core series]] [[Pokémon games]], [[Learn with Pokémon: Typing Adventure]], [[Pokémon Picross]], and [[Pokémon GO]].

==Generation V==
{{main|List of Medals in Pokémon Black 2 and White 2}}
In [[Pokémon Black and White Versions 2|Pokémon Black 2 and White 2]], Medals are given by Mr. Medal in the [[Pokémon Center]] when talking to him after meeting their requirements, and are stored in the {{key|V|Medal Box}}. Mr. Medal will only appear when the player has unclaimed Medals they have achieved. There are 255 Medals in all, along with Hint Medals.

==Generation VI==
{{main|List of Medals in Pokémon X and Y}}
{{main|List of Medals in Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire}}
In [[Pokémon X and Y|Pokémon X, Y]], {{pkmn|Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire|Omega Ruby, and Alpha Sapphire}}, Medals are a part of the [[Pokémon Global Link]] rather than in-game items. When the player performs a [[Game Sync]], any achieved Medals are automatically unlocked.

==Learn with Pokémon: Typing Adventure==
{{incomplete|section}}
In [[Learn with Pokémon: Typing Adventure]], each course has specific requirements to obtain a bronze, silver and gold medal on that course. Obtaining a large number of medals grants the player access to unlockables.

<gallery>
Bronze Medal Typing Adventure.png|Bronze Medal
Silver Medal Typing Adventure.png|Silver Medal
Gold Medal Typing Adventure.png|Gold Medal
</gallery>

==Pokémon Picross==
{{main|Pokémon_Picross#Medals}}

Medals in Pokémon Picross are rewards for completing specific requirements in-game.

==Pokémon GO==
{{incomplete|section}}
In [[Pokémon GO]], there are a number of medals that the player can earn. Each potential medal can be earned at several different ranks.

{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{Pokémon color light}}; border: 5px solid #{{Pokémon color}}; margin:auto"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" class="roundy" style="background: #fff; border:1px solid #{{Pokémon color light}}; border-collapse:collapse; text-align:center"
|- style="background: #{{Pokémon color light}}"
! rowspan=2|Name
! colspan=3|Requirement
|-
! Bronze
! Silver
! Gold
|-
| Jogger
| Walk 10 km
|
|
|-
| Kanto
| Register X Pokémon in the Pokédex
| Register 50 Pokémon in the Pokédex
|
|-
| Collector
| Capture 30 Pokémon
| Capture 500 Pokémon
|
|-
| Scientist
| Evolve 3 Pokémon
|
|
|-
| Breeder
| Hatch 10 Eggs
|
|
|-
| Backpacker
| Visit 100 PokéStops
|
|
|-
| Battle Girl
| Win 10 Gym Battles
|
|
|-
| Ace Trainer
| Train 10 times
|
|
|-
| Schoolkid
| Catch 10 Normal-type Pokémon
| Catch 50 Normal-type Pokémon
|
|-
| Black Belt
| Catch 10 Fighting-type Pokémon
| Catch 50 Fighting-type Pokémon
|
|-
| Bird Keeper
| Catch 10 Flying-type Pokémon
| Catch 50 Flying-type Pokémon
|
|-
| Punk Girl
| Catch 10 Poison-type Pokémon
| Catch 50 Poison-type Pokémon
|
|-
| Bug Catcher
| Catch 10 Bug-type Pokémon
| Catch 50 Bug-type Pokémon
|
|-
| Swimmer
| Catch 10 Water-type Pokémon
| Catch 50 Water-type Pokémon
|
|-
| Gardener
| Catch 10 Grass-type Pokémon
| Catch 50 Grass-type Pokémon
|
|-
| Psychic
| Catch 10 Psychic-type Pokémon
| Catch 50 Psychic-type Pokémon
|
|-
| Fairy Tale Girl
| Catch 10 Fairy-type Pokémon
| Catch 50 Fairy-type Pokémon
|
|}
|}

==In other languages==
{{langtable|color={{gold color light}}|bordercolor={{gold color}}
|de=Medaille
|fr=Médaille
|it=Premi
|es=Insignia
|ko=메달 ''Medal''
}}

==See also==
* [[Badge]]
* [[Ribbon]]
* [[Symbol]]

{{Project Games notice}}

[[Category:Game mechanics]]

[[de:Medaille]]
[[fr:Médaille]]
[[it:Premi]]
[[ja:メダル]]
[[zh:奖章]]

Medal

2016-07-09T08:10:27Z

$aturn¥oshi: /* Pokémon GO */

{{samename|the equivalent of [[Badge]]s in {{ga|Pokémon Trading Card Game}}|Master Medal}} ''For the Pokéathlon prize, see [[Pokéathlon#Courses|Pokéathlon → Medals]].''
[[File:Medal-adventure1.png|thumb|A Level 1 Adventure Medal]]
'''Medals''' (Japanese: '''メダル''' ''Medal'') are a type of achievement in the [[core series]] [[Pokémon games]], [[Learn with Pokémon: Typing Adventure]], [[Pokémon Picross]], and [[Pokémon GO]].

==Generation V==
{{main|List of Medals in Pokémon Black 2 and White 2}}
In [[Pokémon Black and White Versions 2|Pokémon Black 2 and White 2]], Medals are given by Mr. Medal in the [[Pokémon Center]] when talking to him after meeting their requirements, and are stored in the {{key|V|Medal Box}}. Mr. Medal will only appear when the player has unclaimed Medals they have achieved. There are 255 Medals in all, along with Hint Medals.

==Generation VI==
{{main|List of Medals in Pokémon X and Y}}
{{main|List of Medals in Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire}}
In [[Pokémon X and Y|Pokémon X, Y]], {{pkmn|Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire|Omega Ruby, and Alpha Sapphire}}, Medals are a part of the [[Pokémon Global Link]] rather than in-game items. When the player performs a [[Game Sync]], any achieved Medals are automatically unlocked.

==Learn with Pokémon: Typing Adventure==
{{incomplete|section}}
In [[Learn with Pokémon: Typing Adventure]], each course has specific requirements to obtain a bronze, silver and gold medal on that course. Obtaining a large number of medals grants the player access to unlockables.

<gallery>
Bronze Medal Typing Adventure.png|Bronze Medal
Silver Medal Typing Adventure.png|Silver Medal
Gold Medal Typing Adventure.png|Gold Medal
</gallery>

==Pokémon Picross==
{{main|Pokémon_Picross#Medals}}

Medals in Pokémon Picross are rewards for completing specific requirements in-game.

==Pokémon GO==
{{incomplete|section}}
In [[Pokémon GO]], there are a number of medals that the player can earn. Each potential medal can be earned at several different ranks.

{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{Pokémon color light}}; border: 5px solid #{{Pokémon color}}; margin:auto"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" class="roundy" style="background: #fff; border:1px solid #{{Pokémon color light}}; border-collapse:collapse; text-align:center"
|- style="background: #{{Pokémon color light}}"
! rowspan=2|Name
! colspan=3|Requirement
|-
! Bronze
! Silver
! Gold
|-
| Jogger
| Walk 10 km
|
|
|-
| Kanto
| Register X Pokémon in the Pokédex
| Register 50 Pokémon in the Pokédex
|
|-
| Collector
| Capture X Pokémon
| Capture 500 Pokémon
|
|-
| Scientist
| Evolve 3 Pokémon
|
|
|-
| Breeder
| Hatch 10 Eggs
|
|
|-
| Backpacker
| Visit 100 PokéStops
|
|
|-
| Battle Girl
| Win 10 Gym Battles
|
|
|-
| Ace Trainer
| Train 10 times
|
|
|-
| Schoolkid
| Catch 10 Normal-type Pokémon
| Catch 50 Normal-type Pokémon
|
|-
| Black Belt
| Catch 10 Fighting-type Pokémon
| Catch 50 Fighting-type Pokémon
|
|-
| Bird Keeper
| Catch 10 Flying-type Pokémon
| Catch 50 Flying-type Pokémon
|
|-
| Punk Girl
| Catch 10 Poison-type Pokémon
| Catch 50 Poison-type Pokémon
|
|-
| Bug Catcher
| Catch 10 Bug-type Pokémon
| Catch 50 Bug-type Pokémon
|
|-
| Swimmer
| Catch 10 Water-type Pokémon
| Catch 50 Water-type Pokémon
|
|-
| Gardener
| Catch 10 Grass-type Pokémon
| Catch 50 Grass-type Pokémon
|
|-
| Psychic
| Catch 10 Psychic-type Pokémon
| Catch 50 Psychic-type Pokémon
|
|-
| Fairy Tale Girl
| Catch 10 Fairy-type Pokémon
| Catch 50 Fairy-type Pokémon
|
|}
|}

==In other languages==
{{langtable|color={{gold color light}}|bordercolor={{gold color}}
|de=Medaille
|fr=Médaille
|it=Premi
|es=Insignia
|ko=메달 ''Medal''
}}

==See also==
* [[Badge]]
* [[Ribbon]]
* [[Symbol]]

{{Project Games notice}}

[[Category:Game mechanics]]

[[de:Medaille]]
[[fr:Médaille]]
[[it:Premi]]
[[ja:メダル]]
[[zh:奖章]]

Bulbagarden

2010-11-24T02:39:42Z

$aturn¥oshi: /* Current staff */ Rank update.

{{Fan site|
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bordercolor={{green color dark}} |
corecolor={{green color}} |
sitename=Bulbagarden |
slogan=no |
image=Bulbagarden logo.png |
size=200px |
caption= |
lang=English |
status=Active |
run=2001 - Present|
create=2001 |
defunct=no |
reason=no |
creator={{OBP|Anenga|person}} |
articles=no |
forum=yes |
forumname=[http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/index.php BMGf] |
mascot={{p|Bulbasaur}} |
weblink=[http://www.bulbagarden.net/ Main Page]
}}

[[File:Titlecard.png|thumb|right|200px|The titlecard for ''[[EP051|Bulbasaur's Mysterious Garden]]'', the episode for which Bulbagarden is named.]]
'''Bulbasaur's Mysterious Garden''', commonly known as '''Bulbagarden''', is an English-language Pokémon community. It is most well known for [[Bulbapedia]], [[Bulbagarden forums|its forums]], and the lack of an accompanying website. The site's slogan is "the original Pokémon community".

Bulbagarden has, in recent years, made major pushes into the "Web 2.0" philosophy, starting with Bulbapedia and continuing with the Oekaki and the Bulbawiki networks.

==History==
The original Bulbagarden.com website was run by Bulbasaur ("Bulba", later known as {{OBP|Anenga|person}} after moving on from Bulbagarden), and was in operation during the so-called heyday of Pokémon Websites, in the peerage of such esteemed sites as TPM, Azure Heights, and the original [[Universal Pokémon Network|UPN]]. The original site was shut down at the beginning of 2001 after problems with advertisers left Bulba with no ability to pay for server operation. The files were held in stasis on the server until the beginning of February, during which time the (then) forum head admin [[Archaic]] launched a desperate bid to fund the server for just one more month, enough to be allowed access to the files again and to make a forum backup.

Archaic brought the site back in late 2002, following significant downtime on the part of [[Serebii.net]], contracting the services of major players in the Pokémon community at the time. After opening on January 1, 2003, Bulbagarden.com grew, quickly gaining memberships on the forums and struggling to put a site up for operations. A pilot site had been completed, but a full version was never offered.

About a year later, the Bulbagarden.com domain name expired and was promptly squatted. After many attempts to reestablish the site at Bulbagarden.com, it was decided to move to a .net domain name, becoming (as it is today) Bulbagarden.net, which continues under the ownership of Archaic. Over the past two years, it has become one of the major communities in the online Pokémon fandom.

Bulbagarden's current projects include but are not limited to [[Bulbapedia]], this very Pokémon encyclopedia, [[Bulbanews]], a Pokémon news wiki, the Oekaki, and various other anime synopses and Pokémon data classification projects.

==Hostees==
In its long history, Bulbasaur's Mysterious Garden hosted a wide variety of websites in a time where Pokémon sites were scrambling to be hosted by the bigger and more popular sites. One such place was [[Articuno Island]], or Prussian Town as it was known then. BMG currently hosts many other sites, including [[Dogasu's Backpack]] and the Japanese [[Pokémon Wiki]], but Articuno Island was one of the first as it was one of the oldest Pokémon sites on the web.

==Staff==
===Current staff===
* [[Archaic]] - Head of Bulbagarden
* evkl - Head Administrator
* [[Dogasu]] - Administrator, Head of Anime
* TTEchidna - Administrator, Editor-in-Chief, Bulbapedia
* RexRacer - Administrator, Editor-in-Chief, Bulbanews
* Maverick Nate - Moderator, Editor-in-Chief, Bulbagarden Archives
* Kasumi - Administrator, Head of Art
* Misty - Administrator, Co-Owner of #bulbagarden IRC Channel
* Satoshi-kun - Administrator, Co-Owner of #bulbagarden IRC Channel
* Barb - Administrator, Head of [[Fan fiction]]
* Zhen Lin - Administrator, former Editor-in-Chief, Bulbapedia
* Argy - Administrator, former Editor-in-Chief, Bulbanews
* Evil Figment - Global Moderator, Co-Head of Real World/Soapbox Debates, former Head Admin
* $aturn¥oshi - Administrator, Head of Social Branch, Bulbagarden Historian

===Former staff===
* Ledian X - Moderator
* Mozz - Creditor
* Murgatroyd - Head of Anime and Shipping

{{Encyclopaediae Pokémonis}}
{{Project Fandom notice}}
[[Category:Bulbagarden]]
[[Category:Fan sites]]
[[ja:Bulbagarden]]

List of Pokémon with form differences

2010-10-06T20:44:46Z

$aturn¥oshi: /* Genesect */ Ice Forme sprite

While there are {{numpkmn}} officially recognized [[Pokémon|species of Pokémon]], with most members of an individual species looking relatively similar to one another, several Pokémon species have remarkable '''differences in appearance''' between members. At times, these differences are purely cosmetic, and have no bearing on the difference in the Pokémon's stats from another; however, several Pokémon not only differ in stats, but also type, depending on their form.

Among these are several [[legendary Pokémon]], whose unique forms can be changed between at will, and are spelled officially as "Formes". Many of the forms are known to have special names, while others do not, and are thus only named in [[fanon]]. Whichever form is encountered first will be the form displayed in the [[Pokédex]] by default; i.e., a player who encountered a West Sea Shellos would have it appear in the Pokédex by default, while one who encounters an East Sea Shellos first would see that Shellos appear in the Pokédex first.

==Pokémon with differing forms==
===Pichu===
In {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}, an alternate form of {{p|Pichu}} will appear at [[Ilex Forest]] (but only if the player has a {{DL|List of Nintendo event Pokémon with in-game effects|Pikachu-colored Pichu}} in their party). This Pichu has a tuft of hair on the end of its left ear, and is known as the [[Spiky-eared Pichu]]. Spiky-eared Pichu's [[Pokéathlon]] [[performance]] stats are different than a normal Pichu's. It is always a female.

{| align="center" style="background: #{{electric color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 10px;" width="225px"
|- align="center"
| Normal [[File:Spr 4h 172.png]]
| Spiky-eared [[File:Spr 4h 172N.png]]
|}

===Unown===
{{p|Unown}} was the first known Pokémon which had visual differences between individuals of the species. From the species' debut in [[Generation II]], each Unown would have an appearance similar to that of one of the twenty-six letters of the {{wp|Latin alphabet}}. In [[Generation III]], two more forms were added, corresponding to the {{wp|question mark}} and {{wp|exclamation point}}.

A special [[Unown Dex]], an upgrade to the Pokédex that was developed by the researchers at the [[Ruins of Alph]] to record the different forms of Unown, was available in [[Generation II]] after the player had caught several Unown. This was superseded in {{v2|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}} by the [[Unown Report]], obtainable after the player completes the first tile puzzle in the [[Ruins of Alph]].

Unown's form is determined in [[Generation III]] based on its [[personality value]]. Though the form has no bearing on [[base stats]], ! and ? Unown have different [[performance]] stats than their alphabetical brethren.

{| align="center" style="background: #{{psychic color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 10px;"
|- align="center"
| A [[Image:201A.png]]
| B [[Image:201B.png]]
| C [[Image:201C.png]]
| D [[Image:201D.png]]
| E [[Image:201E.png]]
| F [[Image:201F.png]]
| G [[Image:201G.png]]
|- align="center"
| H [[Image:201H.png]]
| I [[Image:201I.png]]
| J [[Image:201J.png]]
| K [[Image:201K.png]]
| L [[Image:201L.png]]
| M [[Image:201M.png]]
| N [[Image:201N.png]]
|- align="center"
| O [[Image:201O.png]]
| P [[Image:201P.png]]
| Q [[Image:201Q.png]]
| R [[Image:201R.png]]
| S [[Image:201S.png]]
| T [[Image:201T.png]]
| U [[Image:201U.png]]
|- align="center"
| V [[Image:201V.png]]
| W [[Image:201W.png]]
| X [[Image:201X.png]]
| Y [[Image:201Y.png]]
| Z [[Image:201Z.png]]
| ! [[Image:201Exclamation.png]]
| ? [[Image:201Question.png]]
|}

===Spinda===
Like Unown, {{p|Spinda}} has many visual variations in its species, all involving the placement of its spots. Like Unown's letter, the spot placement is generated based on the individual's [[personality value]], and likewise, has no effect on the Pokémon's stats. Unlike Unown, however, these differences are rarely repeated, as the calculation uses the entirety of the personality value—a number that can [[Personality value#Spinda's spots|range]] from [[Spinda (Pokémon)#Trivia|zero to 4,294,967,295]] (232 - 1).

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|- align="center"
| width="25%" | RSFRLG [[Image:Spr 3r 327.png]]
| width="25%" | E [[Image:Spr 3e 327.gif]]
| width="25%" | DPPtHGSS [[Image:Spr 4d 327.png]]
| width="25%" | BW [[Image:327.png]]
|}

===Castform===
{{p|Castform}}'s first appearance at [[Hoenn]]'s [[Weather Institute]] in [[Generation III]] brought about the concept of interchangeable forms. Unlike other Pokémon, an individual Castform's form is not static, and will change, due to its [[ability]], with the [[weather]].

Normally, Castform takes on a rather plain appearance, with a gray body. In this form, it is of the {{type2|Normal}}; as could be expected, it is in this form that it is at its least effective.

When Castform is exposed to [[Weather conditions#Intense sunlight|bright rays of sunlight]], it changes its form to a more sunny appearance, and becomes a {{type2|Fire}} (Sunny Form). In [[Weather conditions#Heavy rain|rain]], Castform becomes more like a raindrop, and becomes a {{type2|Water}} (Rainy Form). Finally, in [[Weather conditions#Hailstorm|hail]], Castform takes the form of a snowy cloud, and becomes an {{type2|Ice}} (Snowy Form).
It will not transform in any other [[weather conditions]].

Castform's [[stats]] do not change between any of these forms.

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|- align="center"
| width="25%" style="background: #{{normal color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 10px;" | Normal [[Image:351.png]] {{typecolor|Normal}}
| width="25%" style="background: #{{fire color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 10px;" | Sunny Form [[Image:351S.png]] {{typecolor|Fire}}
| width="25%" style="background: #{{water color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 10px;" | Rainy Form [[Image:351R.png]] {{typecolor|Water}}
| width="25%" style="background: #{{ice color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 10px;" | Snowy Form [[Image:351H.png]] {{typecolor|Ice}}
|}

===Deoxys===
{{p|Deoxys}}, the final Pokémon in the [[National Pokédex]] as of [[Generation III]], was the first known Pokémon whose [[base stats]] and [[move]] compatibility differed, as well as its appearance, depending on its form. First introduced in ''[[M07|Destiny Deoxys]]'', Deoxys was revealed to have three alternating forms, while a fourth was added later, with the release of {{game|Emerald}}. Like its base stats, its Pokéathlon performance varies depending on its form.

Deoxys's forms are game-specific in [[Generation III]], but can be changed at will in [[Generation IV]] by inspecting the meteorites in [[Veilstone City]] in [[Sinnoh]] and {{rt|3|Kanto}} in [[Kanto]].

Deoxys's Normal Forme is the default form it takes, as well as the form it appears in in {{game|Ruby and Sapphire|s}}. In this form, its stats are more balanced, though it is notably far more offensive than it is defensive.

It is in this form that Deoxys will be found in the wild on [[Birth Island]], though it will transform after it has been captured, depending on its [[Generation III]] game version.

The Attack Forme is the appearance that Deoxys takes on in {{game|FireRed}}, and it learns noticeably more powerful moves while in this form. Its {{stat|Attack}} and {{stat|Special Attack}} stats have been maxed out, making it the most powerful of all Pokémon in both aspects, while its {{stat|Speed}} remains the same as its default form. Its defensive stats, however, take a harsh blow, lowering so much that it is only more powerful in {{stat|Defense}} than seven Pokémon (tied with three others), and is tied for last place in {{stat|Special Defense}} with five others, including {{p|Magikarp}}.

In {{game|LeafGreen}}, the counterpart version to FireRed, Deoxys takes on a counterpart form to the Attack Forme, the Defense Forme. Whereas the Attack Forme had incredible offensive power (and incredibly weak defensive capabilities), Defense Forme inverts this somewhat, having mediocre offensive power (and a lower Speed stat) and heightened {{stat|Defense}} and {{stat|Special Defense}}. This form of Deoxys learns moves more attuned to attrition than to elimination, raising its already high defenses to protect against opponents' moves rather than attack them before they can attack.

By far the quickest of all Pokémon, Deoxys in its Speed Forme learns many moves that can guarantee that it will strike before any other Pokémon can. Though it can still be outsped by a Pokémon with {{a|Speed Boost}}, Speed Forme Deoxys takes the uneven nature of the stats of Deoxys's other forms and balances them out, keeping it from hitting too hard, but at the same time, preventing it from being hit too hard itself.

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{{Compare|name=Deoxys|forme=Normal Forme|type=Psychic|ndex=386|ab=Pressure|how={{color2|000000|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|Ruby and Sapphire}}|HP=50|Attack=150|Defense=50|SpAtk=150|SpDef=50|Speed=150}}
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{{Compare|name=Deoxys|forme=Attack Forme|type=Psychic|ndex=386A|ab=Pressure|how={{color2|000000|Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|FireRed}}|HP=50|Attack=180|Defense=20|SpAtk=180|SpDef=20|Speed=150}}
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{{Compare|name=Deoxys|forme=Defense Forme|type=Psychic|ndex=386D|ab=Pressure|how={{color2|000000|Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|LeafGreen}}|HP=50|Attack=70|Defense=160|SpAtk=70|SpDef=160|Speed=90}}
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{{Compare|name=Deoxys|forme=Speed Forme|type=Psychic|ndex=386S|ab=Pressure|how={{color2|000000|Pokémon Emerald Version|Emerald}}|HP=50|Attack=95|Defense=90|SpAtk=95|SpDef=90|Speed=180}}
|}

===Burmy and Wormadam===
Both {{p|Burmy}} and its female evolution, {{p|Wormadam}}, have three separate forms, being the first Pokémon whose evolution depends on a specific form. Like others, Burmy can change form freely, depending on where it last participated in a battle actively ([[Exp. Share]] maintains a Burmy's form if it does not leave the [[Poké Ball]]); however, Wormadam's form is permanent.

If a Burmy last battled in a grassy outside area, hatched from an egg whose Wormadam parent was in the Plant Cloak, or hatched from an egg that had {{p|Mothim}} and {{p|Ditto}} as parents, it will be in its basic state, the Plant Cloak. This form of Burmy is covered in leaves and twigs. If a female, it will evolve into Wormadam in its Plant Cloak, which is a {{2t|Bug|Grass}} Pokémon.

If a Burmy last battled on a beach or in a cave, or hatched from an egg whose Wormadam parent was in the Sandy Cloak, it will be in the Sandy Cloak. This form of Burmy is covered in sand and rocks. If a female, it will evolve into Wormadam in its Sandy Cloak, which is a {{2t|Bug|Ground}} Pokémon.

If a Burmy last battled inside of a building, or hatched from an egg whose Wormadam parent was in the Trash Cloak, it will be in the Trash Cloak. This form of Burmy is covered in pink {{wp|building insulation|insulation}}. If a female, it will evolve into Wormadam in its Trash Cloak, which is a {{2t|Bug|Steel}} Pokémon.

A Wormadam's stats and move compatibility vary with her form, in addition to type and appearance. The cloak a male Burmy takes on before evolution makes no difference, as it sheds it upon evolution into {{p|Mothim}}.

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|- align="center"
| width="33%" style="background: #{{grass color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 10px;" | Plant Cloak [[Image:412.png]] {{typecolor|Bug}}
| width="33%" style="background: #{{ground color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 10px;" | Sandy Cloak [[Image:412G.png]] {{typecolor|Bug}}
| width="33%" style="background: #{{steel color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 10px;" | Trash Cloak [[Image:412S.png]] {{typecolor|Bug}}
|}

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{{Compare|name=Wormadam|forme=Plant Cloak|type=Bug|type2=Grass|ndex=413|ab=Anticipation|how={{color2|000000|Evolution|Evolve}} after battle on grassy terrain|HP=60|Attack=59|Defense=85|SpAtk=79|SpDef=105|Speed=36}}
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{{Compare|name=Wormadam|forme=Sandy Cloak|type=Bug|type2=Ground|ndex=413G|ab=Anticipation|how={{color2|000000|Evolution|Evolve}} after battle on rocky terrain|HP=60|Attack=79|Defense=105|SpAtk=59|SpDef=85|Speed=36}}
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{{Compare|name=Wormadam|forme=Trash Cloak|type=Bug|type2=Steel|ndex=413S|ab=Anticipation|how={{color2|000000|Evolution|Evolve}} after battle inside a building|HP=60|Attack=69|Defense=95|SpAtk=69|SpDef=95|Speed=36}}
|}

===Cherrim===
Like Castform, {{p|Cherrim}} changes its appearance depending on the weather, though not with all kinds. It will be in its Sunshine form in [[Weather_effect#Intense_sunlight|intense sunlight]] and its Overcast form in any other weather. Due to its {{a|Flower Gift|ability}}, its {{stat|Attack}} and {{stat|Special Defense}} will also increase in its Sunshine form. Unlike Castform, its type does not change.

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|- align="center"
| width="50%" style="background: #{{grass color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 10px;" | Overcast form [[File:421.png]] {{typecolor|Grass}}
| width="50%" style="background: #{{fire color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 10px;" | Sunshine form [[Image:421S.png]] {{typecolor|Grass}}
|}

===Shellos and Gastrodon===
Another [[Sinnoh]]-native [[evolution]] family, {{p|Shellos}} and {{p|Gastrodon}} also have a difference, depending on, this time, whether the Pokémon in question was caught east or west of [[Mt. Coronet]]. Like others before, neither form can change to the other, but unlike other multiple-form Pokémon, the appearance of the mother is the determinant to the appearance of the hatched Pokémon.

Both West Sea Shellos and Gastrodon take on a pink appearance, while their East Sea cousins take on a blue hue. There is also a slight difference in bodily appearance depending on the form.

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|- align="center"
| width="50%" style="background: #{{psychic color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 10px;" | West Sea [[Image:422.png]] {{typecolor|Water}} [[Image:423.png]] {{typecolor|Water}}{{typecolor|Ground}}
| width="50%" style="background: #{{water color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 10px;" | East Sea [[Image:422E.png]] {{typecolor|Water}} [[Image:423E.png]] {{typecolor|Water}}{{typecolor|Ground}}
|}

===Rotom===
In August of 2008, shortly before the Japanese release of {{game|Platinum}}, five silhouetted Pokémon were shown, with a statement that indicated that these Pokémon would be in the game. Days before the game's release, it was revealed that these Pokémon were alternate forms of {{p|Rotom}}.

In each of these forms, Rotom has possessed a different {{wp|household appliance}}, and each has its own special [[move]]. Heat Rotom, which has possessed a {{wp|microwave oven}}, knows {{m|Overheat}} and is {{2t|Electric|Fire}}; Wash Rotom, which has possessed a {{wp|washing machine}}, knows {{m|Hydro Pump}} and is {{2t|Electric|Water}}; Frost Rotom, which has possessed a {{wp|refrigerator}}, knowns {{m|Blizzard}} and is {{2t|Electric|Ice}}; Fan Rotom, which has possessed a {{wp|mechanical fan|rotary fan}}, knows {{m|Air Slash}} and is {{2t|Electric|Flying}}; and Mow Rotom, which has possessed a {{wp|lawn mower}}, knows {{m|Leaf Storm}} and is {{2t|Electric|Grass}}.

Until [[Generation V]], all forms of Rotom were {{2t|Ghost|Electric}}-type. All alternate forms have the same base stat total, which is higher than that of normal Rotom.

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{{Compare|name=Rotom|forme=Normal Rotom|type=Electric|type2=Ghost|ndex=479|ab=Levitate|HP=50|Attack=50|Defense=77|SpAtk=95|SpDef=77|Speed=91}}
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{{Compare|name=Rotom|forme=Heat Rotom|type=Electric|type2=Fire|ndex=479O|ab=Levitate|HP=50|Attack=65|Defense=107|SpAtk=105|SpDef=107|Speed=86}}
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{{Compare|name=Rotom|forme=Wash Rotom|type=Electric|type2=Water|ndex=479W|ab=Levitate|HP=50|Attack=65|Defense=107|SpAtk=105|SpDef=107|Speed=86}}
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{{Compare|name=Rotom|forme=Frost Rotom|type=Electric|type2=Ice|ndex=479R|ab=Levitate|HP=50|Attack=65|Defense=107|SpAtk=105|SpDef=107|Speed=86}}
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{{Compare|name=Rotom|forme=Fan Rotom|type=Electric|type2=Flying|ndex=479F|ab=Levitate|HP=50|Attack=65|Defense=107|SpAtk=105|SpDef=107|Speed=86}}
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{{Compare|name=Rotom|forme=Mow Rotom|type=Electric|type2=Grass|ndex=479L|ab=Levitate|HP=50|Attack=65|Defense=107|SpAtk=105|SpDef=107|Speed=86}}
|}

===Giratina===
{{p|Giratina}}, much like {{p|Deoxys}} had been earlier, was announced to have an alternate form in the then-upcoming ''[[M11|Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]'' in February, 2008. One of the two forms is the familiar form to players of {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}}, designated as Altered Forme Giratina, while the other is a more serpentine form that was not previously known, the Origin Forme.

The Origin Forme is known as Giratina's natural form, which it appears in in its home of the [[Reverse World]] (in the anime) and [[Distortion World]] (in the games). If it travels to the [[Pokémon world]], it assumes its Altered Forme. Both Formes appear in {{game|Platinum}}, where Giratina is captured in the [[Distortion World]] in its more offense-oriented Origin Forme, and will revert to the defensive Altered Forme outside of this area unless it holds the [[Type-enhancing item#Griseous Orb|Griseous Orb]].

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{{Compare|name=Giratina|forme=Altered Forme|type=Ghost|type2=Dragon|ndex=487|ab=Pressure|how={{color2|000000|Pokémon world}}|HP=150|Attack=100|Defense=120|SpAtk=100|SpDef=120|Speed=90}}
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{{Compare|name=Giratina|forme=Origin Forme|type=Ghost|type2=Dragon|ndex=487O|ab=Levitate|how={{color2|000000|Distortion World}} or held {{color2|000000|Type-enhancing item#Griseous Orb|Griseous Orb}}|HP=150|Attack=120|Defense=100|SpAtk=120|SpDef=100|Speed=90}}
|}

===Shaymin===
As with Giratina, an alternate form of the event Pokémon {{p|Shaymin}} was announced to appear in ''[[M11|Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]'', and is, in fact, the titular sky warrior. This new Sky Forme of Shaymin, with the previously-known form now called the Land Forme, has a completely altered appearance and, rather than being a pure-{{type2|Grass}}, is now {{2t|Grass|Flying}}.

Like Giratina and Deoxys's transformations are activated by an external source, Shaymin's is activated by contact with a {{OBP|Gracidea|flower}}, whose bouquets look almost like a sleeping Shaymin.

A Shaymin in its Sky Forme will revert to its Land Forme if {{status|frozen}} or during {{DL|Time|night}}.

It is interesting to note that upon changing forms, Shaymin also changes its [[cry]]. It is the only Pokémon to do so.

{|align="center"
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{{Compare|name=Shaymin|forme=Land Forme|type=Grass|ndex=492|ab=Natural Cure|how={{color2|000000|Time|Nighttime}}|HP=100|Attack=100|Defense=100|SpAtk=100|SpDef=100|Speed=100}}
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{{Compare|name=Shaymin|forme=Sky Forme|type=Grass|type2=Flying|ndex=492S|ab=Serene Grace|how={{color2|000000|Gracidea (flower)|Gracidea}}|HP=100|Attack=103|Defense=75|SpAtk=120|SpDef=75|Speed=127}}
|}

===Arceus===
{{p|Arceus}} has eighteen different forms, each with a slightly different coloration, which correspond to the eighteen different [[elemental types]].

Arceus's transformation between these Formes is brought about by its held item: if it is holding a [[plate]], it draws its type from that plate as stated in [[Sinnoh myths|Sinnoh's mythology]], while remaining {{type2|Normal}} when not holding a plate or holding any non-plate item.

The {{type2|???}} Forme of Arceus exists only in Generation IV, and is currently unavailable in any legitimate manner, as there is no plate to turn it to this type. Educated speculation attributes this to an attempt made by Game Freak as an error handler. This is supported by the fact that there is no ???-type sprite data for Arceus in the Generation V games, because the ???-type was removed entirely from Generation V.

While its base stats remain constant despite its changing type, its Pokéathlon performance changes slightly.

{| align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF; -moz-border-radius: 10px;" cellpadding="4"
|- align="center"
| style="background: #{{normal color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 10px;" | {{typecolor|Normal}} [[Image:493.png]]
| style="background: #{{fire color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 10px;" | {{typecolor|Fire}} [[Image:493-Fire.png]]
| style="background: #{{water color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 10px;" | {{typecolor|Water}} [[Image:493-Water.png]]
| style="background: #{{electric color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 10px;" | {{typecolor|Electric}} [[Image:493-Electric.png]]
| style="background: #{{grass color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 10px;" | {{typecolor|Grass}} [[Image:493-Grass.png]]
| style="background: #{{ice color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 10px;" | {{typecolor|Ice}} [[Image:493-Ice.png]]
| style="background: #{{fighting color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 10px;" | {{typecolor|Fighting}} [[Image:493-Fighting.png]]
| style="background: #{{poison color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 10px;" | {{typecolor|Poison}} [[Image:493-Poison.png]]
| style="background: #{{ground color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 10px;" | {{typecolor|Ground}} [[Image:493-Ground.png]]
|- align="center"
| style="background: #{{flying color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 10px;" | {{typecolor|Flying}} [[Image:493-Flying.png]]
| style="background: #{{psychic color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 10px;" | {{typecolor|Psychic}} [[Image:493-Psychic.png]]
| style="background: #{{bug color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 10px;" | {{typecolor|Bug}} [[Image:493-Bug.png]]
| style="background: #{{rock color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 10px;" | {{typecolor|Rock}} [[Image:493-Rock.png]]
| style="background: #{{ghost color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 10px;" | {{typecolor|Ghost}} [[Image:493-Ghost.png]]
| style="background: #{{dragon color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 10px;" | {{typecolor|Dragon}} [[Image:493-Dragon.png]]
| style="background: #{{dark color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 10px;" | {{typecolor|Dark}} [[Image:493-Dark.png]]
| style="background: #{{steel color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 10px;" | {{typecolor|Steel}} [[Image:493-Steel.png]]
| style="background: #{{unknown color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 10px;" | {{typecolor|???}} [[Image:493-Unknown.png]]
|}

===Basurao===
Similar to {{p|Shellos}} and {{p|Gastrodon}}, {{p|Basurao}} can appear in two different forms— the Red-Stripe Form and the Blue-Stripe Form. The Red-Stripe Form sports a red stripe, with wide eyes and spiky fins, while the other has a blue stripe, with squinted eyes and smooth fins. Its color depends on the version it is found in, with the Red-Stripe Form appearing in {{game|Black}} and the Blue-Stripe Form appearing in {{game|White}}. However, rare instances of the other color can be found in the game by surfing on swirling water. Other than appearance, the only difference between the two forms is the [[ability]].

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{{Compare|name=Basurao|forme=Red|type=Water|ndex=550|ab=Reckless|HP=70|Attack=92|Defense=65|SpAtk=80|SpDef=55|Speed=98}}
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{{Compare|name=Basurao|forme=Blue|type=Water|ndex=550B|ab=Adaptability|HP=70|Attack=92|Defense=65|SpAtk=80|SpDef=55|Speed=98}}
|}

===Hihidaruma===
If {{p|Hihidaruma}} has {{a|Daruma Mode}} as its ability, it changes into Daruma mode when its HP drops to below half. Hihidaruma in Daruma mode is blue in color, has Fire/Psychic typing, and inverted Physical and Special stats.

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{{Compare|name=Hihidaruma|forme=Normal form|type=Fire|ndex=555|ab=Daruma Mode|HP=105|Attack=140|Defense=55|SpAtk=30|SpDef=55|Speed=95}}
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{{Compare|name=Hihidaruma|forme=Daruma Mode|type=Fire|type2=Psychic|ndex=555D|ab=Daruma Mode|HP=105|Attack=30|Defense=105|SpAtk=140|SpDef=105|Speed=55}}
|}

===Shikijika and Mebukijika===
{{p|Shikijika}} changes its appearance depending on the [[Seasons|season]], each of which lasts a month in real time, rather than three. During spring, its coat will be pink; during summer, green; during autumn, orange; and during winter, brown.

{{p|Mebukijika}}, Shikijika's evolved form, also differs with the season, with flowers in its antlers during spring; a full set of leaves in its antlers in summer; brown and wilting leaves in the autumn; and white antlers along with sections of thicker, white fur in the winter.

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|- align="center"
| class="roundy" width="25%" style="background: #B0F858;" | Spring form [[File:585.png]] {{typecolor|Normal}}{{typecolor|Grass}} [[File:586.png]] {{typecolor|Normal}}{{typecolor|Grass}}
| class="roundy" width="25%" style="background: #78D0F8;" | Summer form [[Image:585S.png]] {{typecolor|Normal}}{{typecolor|Grass}} [[File:586S.png]] {{typecolor|Normal}}{{typecolor|Grass}}
| class="roundy" width="25%" style="background: #F89058;" | Autumn form [[Image:585A.png]] {{typecolor|Normal}}{{typecolor|Grass}} [[File:586A.png]] {{typecolor|Normal}}{{typecolor|Grass}}
| class="roundy" width="25%" style="background: #F0D8F8;" | Winter form [[Image:585W.png]] {{typecolor|Normal}}{{typecolor|Grass}} [[File:586W.png]] {{typecolor|Normal}}{{typecolor|Grass}}
|}

===Meloetta===
{{p|Meloetta}}, if taught the move {{m|Ancient Song}} from a man in [[Hiun City]], will transform into its Step Forme, which changes its typing from {{2t|Normal|Psychic}} to {{2t|Normal|Fighting}} as well as altering its [[Move|moveset]].
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{{Compare|name=Meloetta|forme=Voice Forme|type=Normal|type2=Psychic|ndex=648|ab=Serene Grace|how=Use {{color2|000000|Ancient Song (move)|Ancient Song}}|HP=100|Attack=77|Defense=77|SpAtk=128|SpDef=128|Speed=90}}
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{{Compare|name=Meloetta|forme=Step Forme|type=Normal|type2=Fighting|ndex=648F|ab=Serene Grace|how=Use {{color2|000000|Ancient Song (move)|Ancient Song}}|HP=100|Attack=128|Defense=90|SpAtk=77|SpDef=77|Speed=128}}
|}

===Genesect===
{{p|Genesect}} has five different Formes, each depending on whether or not a Cassette is held and which Cassette it is. However, this does not change Genesect's type, but rather the type of the move {{m|Techno Buster}}. If it lacks a Cassette, it will be {{type2|Normal}}. The four Cassettes the can be equipped are the Lightning, Blaze, Freeze, and Aqua Cassettes, which make the move {{t|Electric}}, {{t|Fire}}, {{t|Ice}}, and {{type2|Water}}, respectively. Otherwise, the change is purely cosmetic.

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|- align="center"
| class="roundy" width="25%" style="background: #C6C6A7;" | Normal Forme [[File:649.png]] {{typecolor|Bug}}{{typecolor|Steel}}
| class="roundy" width="25%" style="background: #FAE078;" | Electric Forme [[File:649Y.png]] {{typecolor|Bug}}{{typecolor|Steel}}
| class="roundy" width="25%" style="background: #F5AC78;" | Fire Forme [[File:649R.png]] {{typecolor|Bug}}{{typecolor|Steel}}
| class="roundy" width="25%" style="background: #BCE6E6;" | Ice Forme [[File:649W.png]] {{typecolor|Bug}}{{typecolor|Steel}}
| class="roundy" width="25%" style="background: #9DB7F5;" | Water Forme [[File:649B.png]] {{typecolor|Bug}}{{typecolor|Steel}}
|}

===Other Pokémon===
* The [[Generation I]] [[Pokédex]] entries for {{p|Arbok}} state that the markings on its belly differ between [[region]]s. The pattern has differed in sprites; however, this is dependent on the game rather than the Pokémon.
* {{p|Shellder}} also changes between bivalve and spiral-shaped variations depending on whether or not it is attached to a {{p|Slowpoke}}'s {{p|Slowking|head}} or {{p|Slowbro|tail}}.
* From [[Generation IV]] onward, there are many Pokémon that [[List of Pokémon with gender differences|appear differently]] as a result of their [[gender]], some drastically, some not.
* [[Shadow Lugia|XD001]] was a {{pkmn2|Shadow}} {{p|Lugia}} that was so thoroughly corrupted that its appearance changed.
* [[Primal Dialga|A Dialga]] also changed its appearance when it lost control of time in {{g|Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness}}.
* {{p|Mantyke}}'s Pokédex entry in Pearl says that the special patterns on its back vary from region to region. Unlike Arbok, however, its backsprite shows no difference between Sinnoh and Johto games.
* The {{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}} Pokédex entries for {{p|Weezing}} state that triplet forms have been discovered; however, this variant has not been shown in any Pokémon media. A third section of Weezing (without a face) appears on every Weezing seen so far.

==Other form differences==
''There are several other differences that Pokémon have. For detailed descriptions of them, see {{cat|Variant Pokémon}}.''

==In other languages==

===Giratina===

====Origin Forme====
*'''French:''' ''Forme Originelle''
*'''Spanish:''' ''Forma Origen''
*'''German:''' ''Urform''
*'''Italian:''' ''Forma Originale''

====Altered Forme====
*'''French:''' ''Forme Alternative''
*'''Spanish:''' ''Forma Modificada''
*'''German:''' ''Wandelform''
*'''Italian:''' ''Forma Alterata''

===Shaymin===

====Land Forme====
*'''French:''' ''Forme Terrestre''
*'''Spanish:''' ''Forma Tierra''
*'''German:''' ''Landform''
*'''Italian:''' ''Forma Terra''

====Sky Forme====
*'''French:''' ''Forme Céleste''
*'''Spanish:''' ''Forma Cielo''
*'''German:''' ''Zenitform''
*'''Italian:''' ''Forma Cielo''

===Rotom===

====Heat Rotom====
*'''French:''' ''Motisma Chaleur''
*'''German:''' ''Hitze-Rotom''
*'''Italian:''' ''Rotom Calore''

====Wash Rotom====
*'''French:''' ''Motisma Lavage''
*'''German:''' ''Wasch-Rotom''
*'''Italian:''' ''Rotom Lavaggio''

====Fan Rotom====
*'''French:''' ''Motisma Hélice''
*'''German:''' ''Wirbel-Rotom''
*'''Italian:''' ''Rotom Vortice''

====Mow Rotom====
*'''French:''' ''Motisma Tonte''
*'''German:''' ''Schneid-Rotom''
*'''Italian:''' ''Rotom Taglio''

====Frost Rotom====
*'''French:''' ''Motisma Froid''
*'''German:''' ''Frost-Rotom''
*'''Italian:''' ''Rotom Gelo''

[[Category:Game mechanics]]
[[Category:Pokémon with different forms|*]]
[[Category:Variant Pokémon]]

[[de:Formwandler]]
[[fr:Forme]]
[[ja:フォルム]]

Bulbagarden

2010-07-09T07:01:52Z

$aturn¥oshi: /* Staff */ Updated a couple ranks.

{{Fan site|
color={{green color light}} |
bordercolor={{green color dark}} |
corecolor={{green color}} |
sitename=Bulbagarden |
slogan=no |
image=Bulbagarden logo.png |
size=200px |
caption= |
lang=English |
status=Active |
run=2001 - Present|
create=2001 |
defunct=no |
reason=no |
creator=[[Anenga (person)|Anenga]] |
articles=no |
forum=yes |
forumname=[http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/index.php BMGf] |
mascot={{p|Bulbasaur}} |
weblink=[http://www.bulbagarden.net/ Main Page]
}}

[[File:Titlecard.png|thumb|right|200px|The titlecard for ''[[EP051|Bulbasaur's Mysterious Garden]]'', the episode for which Bulbagarden is named.]]
'''Bulbasaur's Mysterious Garden''', commonly known as '''Bulbagarden''', is an English-language Pokémon community. It is most well known for [[Bulbapedia]], [[Bulbagarden forums|its forums]], and the lack of an accompanying website. The site's slogan is "the original Pokémon community".

Bulbagarden has, in recent years, made major pushes into the "Web 2.0" philosophy, starting with Bulbapedia and continuing with the Oekaki and the Bulbawiki networks.

==History==
The original Bulbagarden.com website was run by Bulbasaur ("Bulba", later known as {{OBP|Anenga|person}} after moving on from Bulbagarden), and was in operation during the so-called heyday of Pokémon Websites, in the peerage of such esteemed sites as TPM, Azure Heights, and the original [[Universal Pokémon Network|UPN]]. The original site was shut down at the beginning of 2001 after problems with advertisers left Bulba with no ability to pay for server operation. The files were held in stasis on the server until the beginning of February, during which time the (then) forum head admin [[Archaic]] launched a desperate bid to fund the server for just 1 more month, enough to be allowed access to the files again and to make a forum backup.

Archaic brought the site back in late 2002, following significant downtime on the part of [[Serebii.net]], contracting the services of major players in the Pokémon community at the time. After opening on January 1, 2003, Bulbagarden.com prospered, quickly gaining memberships on the forums and struggling to put a worthy site up for operations. A pilot site had been completed, but a full version was never offered.

About a year later, the Bulbagarden.com domain name expired and was promptly squatted, or bought out by another company. After many attempts to reestablish the site at Bulbagarden.com, it was decided to move to a .net domain name, becoming (as it is today) Bulbagarden.net, which continues under the ownership of Archaic. Its traffic has rapidly increased, and it has risen to prominence over the past two years as one of the major communities in the online Pokémon fandom.

Bulbagarden's current projects include but are not limited to [[Bulbapedia]], this very Pokémon encyclopedia, [[Bulbanews]], a Pokémon news wiki, the Oekaki, and various other anime synopses and Pokémon data classification projects.

==Hostees==
In its long history, Bulbasaur's Mysterious Garden hosted a wide variety or websites in a time where Pokémon sites were scrambling to be hosted by the bigger and more popular sites. One such place was [[Articuno Island]], or Prussian Town as it was known then. BMG currently hosts many other sites, including [[Dogasu's Backpack]] and the Japanese [[Pokémon Wiki]], but Articuno Island was one of the first as it was one of the oldest Pokémon sites on the web.

==Staff==
===Current staff===
* [[Archaic]] - Head of Bulbagarden
* evkl - Head Administrator
* [[Dogasu]] - Administrator, Head of Anime
* TTEchidna - Administrator, Editor-in-Chief, Bulbapedia
* RexRacer - Administrator, Editor-in-Chief, Bulbanews
* Maverick Nate - Moderator, Editor-in-Chief, Bulbagarden Archives
* Kasumi - Administrator, Head of Art
* Misty - Administrator, Co-Owner of #bulbagarden IRC Channel
* Satoshi-kun - Administrator, Co-Owner of #bulbagarden IRC Channel
* Barb - Administrator, Head of Fan Fic Writing
* Zhen Lin - Administrator, former Editor-in-Chief, Bulbapedia
* Argy - Administrator, former Editor-in-Chief, Bulbanews
* Evil Figment - Global Moderator, Co-Head of Real World/Soapbox Debates, former Head Admin
* $aturn¥oshi - Global Moderator, Bulbagarden Historian

===Former staff===
* Ledian X - Moderator
* Mozz - Creditor
* Murgatroyd - Head of Anime and Shipping

{{Encyclopaediae Pokémonis}}
{{Project Fandom notice}}
[[Category:Bulbagarden]]
[[Category:Fan sites]]
[[ja:Bulbagarden]]

Bulbagarden

2010-07-03T18:45:25Z

$aturn¥oshi: /* Staff */ Cleaned up Staff list. Not complete...

{{Fan site|
color={{green color light}} |
bordercolor={{green color dark}} |
corecolor={{green color}} |
sitename=Bulbagarden |
slogan=no |
image=Bulbagarden logo.png |
size=200px |
caption= |
lang=English |
status=Active |
run=2001 - Present|
create=2001 |
defunct=no |
reason=no |
creator=[[Anenga (person)|Anenga]] |
articles=no |
forum=yes |
forumname=[http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/index.php BMGf] |
mascot={{p|Bulbasaur}} |
weblink=[http://www.bulbagarden.net/ Main Page]
}}

[[File:Titlecard.png|thumb|right|200px|The titlecard for ''[[EP051|Bulbasaur's Mysterious Garden]]'', the episode for which Bulbagarden is named.]]
'''Bulbasaur's Mysterious Garden''', commonly known as '''Bulbagarden''', is an English-language Pokémon community. It is most well known for [[Bulbapedia]], [[Bulbagarden forums|its forums]], and the lack of an accompanying website. The site's slogan is "the original Pokémon community".

Bulbagarden has, in recent years, made major pushes into the "Web 2.0" philosophy, starting with Bulbapedia and continuing with the Oekaki and the Bulbawiki networks.

==History==
The original Bulbagarden.com website was run by Bulbasaur ("Bulba", later known as {{OBP|Anenga|person}} after moving on from Bulbagarden), and was in operation during the so-called heyday of Pokémon Websites, in the peerage of such esteemed sites as TPM, Azure Heights, and the original [[Universal Pokémon Network|UPN]]. The original site was shut down at the beginning of 2001 after problems with advertisers left Bulba with no ability to pay for server operation. The files were held in stasis on the server until the beginning of February, during which time the (then) forum head admin [[Archaic]] launched a desperate bid to fund the server for just 1 more month, enough to be allowed access to the files again and to make a forum backup.

Archaic brought the site back in late 2002, following significant downtime on the part of [[Serebii.net]], contracting the services of major players in the Pokémon community at the time. After opening on January 1, 2003, Bulbagarden.com prospered, quickly gaining memberships on the forums and struggling to put a worthy site up for operations. A pilot site had been completed, but a full version was never offered.

About a year later, the Bulbagarden.com domain name expired and was promptly squatted, or bought out by another company. After many attempts to reestablish the site at Bulbagarden.com, it was decided to move to a .net domain name, becoming (as it is today) Bulbagarden.net, which continues under the ownership of Archaic. Its traffic has rapidly increased, and it has risen to prominence over the past two years as one of the major communities in the online Pokémon fandom.

Bulbagarden's current projects include but are not limited to [[Bulbapedia]], this very Pokémon encyclopedia, [[Bulbanews]], a Pokémon news wiki, the Oekaki, and various other anime synopses and Pokémon data classification projects.

==Hostees==
In its long history, Bulbasaur's Mysterious Garden hosted a wide variety or websites in a time where Pokémon sites were scrambling to be hosted by the bigger and more popular sites. One such place was [[Articuno Island]], or Prussian Town as it was known then. BMG currently hosts many other sites, including [[Dogasu's Backpack]] and the Japanese [[Pokémon Wiki]], but Articuno Island was one of the first as it was one of the oldest Pokémon sites on the web.

==Staff==
===Current staff===
* [[Archaic]] - Head of Bulbagarden
* evkl - Head Administrator
* [[Dogasu]] - Administrator, Head of Anime
* TTEchidna - Administrator, Editor-in-Chief, Bulbapedia
* RexRacer - Administrator, Editor-in-Chief, Bulbanews
* Maverick Nate - Moderator, Editor-in-Chief, Bulbagarden Archives
* Kasumi - Administrator, Head of Art
* Misty - Administrator, Co-Owner of #bulbagarden IRC Channel
* Satoshi-kun - Administrator, Co-Owner of #bulbagarden IRC Channel
* Barb - Administrator, Head of Fan Fic Writing
* Zhen Lin - Administrator, former Editor-in-Chief, Bulbapedia
* Argy - Administrator, former Editor-in-Chief, Bulbanews
* Evil Figment - Super Moderator, Co-Head of Real World/Soapbox Debates, former Head Admin
* $aturn¥oshi - Moderator, Bulbagarden Historian

===Former staff===
* Ledian X - Moderator
* Mozz - Creditor
* Murgatroyd - Head of Anime and Shipping

{{Encyclopaediae Pokémonis}}
{{Project Fandom notice}}
[[Category:Bulbagarden]]
[[Category:Fan sites]]
[[ja:Bulbagarden]]

Bulbapedia:Project Fandom

2010-06-30T22:34:26Z

$aturn¥oshi: /* Participants */ Added self as leader.

[[File:Project Fandom logo.png|right|200px]]
Some Bulbapedia members have formed a [[Bulbapedia:Project|project]] to better organize efforts to write and improve articles about the '''Pokémon Fandom'''. If you would like to help, please inquire on the [[{{NAMESPACE}} talk:{{PAGENAME}}|talk page]] or the [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 Bulbapedia forum] and see the [[Bulbapedia:Project Fandom/To-do list]].

==Project Fandom==
===Scope and aims===
To cover '''everything''' notable about the Pokémon fandom.

===Participants===
To enter the project, just add your name to the bottom of this list.
* '''{{u|$aturn¥oshi}}''' - {{bp|Project Leaders|Project Leader}}
* {{u|Murzon}} - Founder
* {{u|LugiaRocks}} - I just made two new articles so I guess I'll just join this project.
* {{u|Flame alex}}
* {{u|Diby}}
* {{u|DAWN FAN}}
* {{u|ShinjiLover}} - The only user that contributes. .
* {{u|Clarky13}} - Owwww, I'll help too, ShinjiLover.
* {{u|The Great Butler}} - I'll try to help.
* {{u|LucarioSinnoh}} - I'll try...
* {{u|Magesaye}}
* {{u|CuboneKing}}- Uh......
* {{u|Mclena45}} - I'll try to help!
* {{u|9000punch}} - FALCON PAWNCH!!!
* {{u|swampert_rox}} - I'll do anything possible
* {{u|nobledd11}}
* {{u|link}} - if i have time i'll help
* {{u|Ellie}} - I'll do what I can
* {{u|PokeFanPiplup}} - Seems Cool.
* {{u|Suikunserebii}} - I'll do it (meaning whatever I can)!
* {{u|EpicFail}} - I've already started!
* {{u|GreenGyarados}}
* {{u|Empoleo}} - I'll have a go at it!
* {{u|Fran EGL}} - I am here!
* {{u|CherryParanoia}} - Already started working! :3
* {{u|tblakey89}} - I will add a few UK websites to this
* {{u|Gg94b}} - I will do my best.
* {{u|PokeChar}} - Err..hmm.. hi ^^
* {{u|Breakdanzkat}} - Let's do this!!!
* {{u|PokéPikachu}}- I love Pokémon so lets get to it!!
* {{u|Samus Fan101}}- Pokemon Rox. I want to spread the word about fakemon.
* {{u|Lucas755}} I'll help with things I know about. I guess.
* Levilee207- I know a BUNCH about Pokemon. I even do recolors. I will do my best!
* {{u|Yoyozoo}}
* Kerauno- I love Pokemon and I will help!
* {{u|Kylie}} - You can count on me!~★
* {{u|Politoed666}} - I'm knowledgeable about the PokéGym, PokéBeach, and Smogon, so I'll join.
* {{u|Lil' Kangaskhan}} - I herd u liek Mudkips
* {{u|GugureRoyal}} - Gugure kasu! ~ ♥♪♫
* {{u|Uhnevermind}} - I gots nuthin better 2 do so I'll help lol.
* {{u|Emp}} - Started revamping a few articles ^^;
* {{u|Vampirebidoof}} - I'll write some articles.
* {{u|Matthieu,}} - Hella Yeah! Let's start this Fandom Shiz! [;
* Imahero - I will supply any information on pokemon I can to help out, as MUCH as I can.
* {{u|PokeZelda6664}} - As Dawn would say, ''No need to worry!''
* {{u|Crazylegs24}} - I ABSOULUTLY LOVE POKEMON!!!!!!
* {{u|ToadDude}} - I'll help where ever I can!
*Kwassa-I'll do what I can
* {{u|DialgaMaster105}} -Ask me almost anything, I can usually answer it.
* {{u|kooploop}} -im all in!!!!!and i can answer almost wait .... every qustion i have a full pokedex book with everything in it!!!!!!!
* {{u|Xplicitable}} - Got nothing better to do.
* {{u|1337doom}} - Because I know tons of webcomics!
* {{u|Murkrowfeather}} I am quite knowledgeable in Pokémon and its effect on the fandom and world at large, not to mention a fanfiction writer and fanartist/spriter.
* {{u|Sting the Trainer}} - I'm Pokémon Topaz's resident arrangements artist.
* {{u|duardognn}}
* {{u|Autumn Aesther}} - I know plenty about Pokémon to help out. I've also tried making an RMXP Pokémon game, so I know a lot about how they work.
*5illy- I'm joining this because I love Ashchu!
* {{u|Zasxee}} - yes
* {{u|NoMoreHeroes488}} - I'll do what I can, I love a challenge!

===Structure===
All fanon terminology will be in the following format:

:A(n) '''fanon word here''' is a popular term [[fanon|among fans]] used to . . .

<nowiki>{{Project Fandom notice}}</nowiki>

'''For guidelines, see [[HSOWA|here]].'''

All fansite articles will be in the following format:
:'''Fansite here''' is a site about . . .

<nowiki>== History ==</nowiki>

<nowiki>== Site ==</nowiki>

<nowiki>=== First Section ===</nowiki>

<nowiki>=== Second Section ===</nowiki>

<nowiki>== Staff ==</nowiki>

<nowiki>== External Links ==</nowiki>

<nowiki>{{Project Fandom notice}} </nowiki>

'''For a great example of how to create an article on a fansite (not a forum), please visit [[Pokemopolis|here]].'''

All forum articles will be in the following format:
:'''Forum here''' is a forum about . . .

<nowiki>==Site==</nowiki>

<nowiki>==Topics==</nowiki>

<nowiki>===Topic One===</nowiki>

<nowiki>===Topic Two===</nowiki>

<nowiki>==Staff==</nowiki>

<nowiki>==External Links==</nowiki>

<nowiki>{{Project Fandom notice}}</nowiki>

'''For guidelines, see [[PokéCommunity|here]].'''

===Focus===
Anything that deals with Pokémon fandom. This includes the following: Pokémon fansites, Pokémon fanfiction archives, Pokémon fanon terminology, and Fakemon.

===See also===
Other important links here

===Goals===
# To create comprehensive articles on all known Pokémon fandom.
# To inform the public about fansites and the like.
# To ensure every edit made to the fandom is legitimate.

===Infoboxes===
* {{template|Fan site}}
{{Fan site}}

===Other templates===
To place a notice at the bottom of the page, use this:
{{Template|Project Fandom notice}}

And then you will get this:
{{Project Fandom notice}}

To tell everyone you are a part of this project, use this:
{{Template|User Project Fandom}}

And then you will get this:
{{User Project Fandom}}

==Other projects==
===Parent project===
This project has no parent project. 

===Subprojects===
No subprojects have been defined. 

===Related projects===
No related projects have been named. 

[[Category:Bulbapedia projects|F]]

User talk:TTEchidna/Archive Jun-Aug 10

2010-06-30T22:30:41Z

$aturn¥oshi:

{{User:TTEchidna/Archive}}
The usual, guys. I'd like this talk page to stay until the end of summer. Please bombard the rest of the {{bp|staff}} if it's a question that doesn't require my infinite wisdom. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]'''

==Quick! ==
TTE, please block [[User:Ilovebrock|this guy]] now! [[User:Takharii|<sc>Takharii</sc>]] '''~''' [[User talk:Takharii|<sc>Talk!</sc>]] 08:05, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
:Problem solved. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:13, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

== Berry locations ==

I've made [[User:Werdnae/Sandbox|a template]] for the berry locations. {{DL|User talk:RexRacer|Berries|Rex says he likes it}}, what do you think of it? Also, do you mind if I borrow a little bit of coding and design from your archive template? <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 00:59, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
:I like it, but the roundy needs to be better compacted... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:52, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
::Better compacted? You mean by using {{template|roundyside}} to make the coding smaller, or by making the corner radius bigger? <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 02:21, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
:::By collapsing the borders between the roundy parts, where they combine to be one round thing. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:22, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
::::This better? The border collapse doesn't work with the show/hide, so it doesn't hide anymore. I'm hoping that by trimming the parameters to just what are needed I can fix the display glitches for the ones with just one entry, and I still need to un-small the headers, but other than that it's pretty much done. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 05:53, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::Ooh, that's nice. Maybe colorize the headers differently, though... the green's really gonna clash with the blue infobox. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:41, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::I've changed them to the colours used in the infobox. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 06:56, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Ooh. Well, just keep it on hold for now, okay? If you could get on AIM and assist me with something... we can roll out the new infobox (with some partial revamp in color) sooner... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:21, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

== Fossil evobox ==

[[User:MisterE13/Template:Evobox/Fossil|Like it?]]--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 02:23, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
:Eh... A little unneeded... really, it's like putting Bill on Eevee's line. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:52, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
::Although Bill doesn't transform into Eevee... nor is he the only way to get one other than a trade. You are the boss though.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 02:57, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
:::In that case, Rainbow Wing into Ho-Oh, or something like that. We don't need to involve the fossils. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:06, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
:::MisterE13, difference between evolving and "ressurecting" is that they actually clone the Pokémon from fossil, they don't revive fossil itself. It's just like getting Pokémon in exchange for given item...  --[[User:TakeruDavis|TakeruDavis]][[:a:File:TakeruDavis.gif|[1]]] 17:29, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

== I am back for an emergency!! ==
Please Block Yvvans, or whatever, He is hacking like crazy!!!--[[User:Muk-a-matic|Muk-a-matic-Maketh the Muk go round...]] 15:20, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

I meant Yzzans, but please hurry. Please.--[[User:Muk-a-matic|Muk-a-matic-Maketh the Muk go round...]] 15:25, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
:Am I the only admin ''ever''? No. Please, give everyone else a chance while I'm ''asleep''. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:56, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

== RegionInfobox template ==

Hey TTE, {{tt|sorry to bug you|you're gonna kill me soon, aren't you?}}, but what do you think of [[User:Takharii/sandbox#Region infobox|this]]? I really think that the current style is waaaaaay out of date. [[User:Takharii|<sc>Takharii</sc>]] '''~''' [[User talk:Takharii|<sc>Talk!</sc>]] 08:38, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:Why the white in the label fields? Looks good, though. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:41, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
::Glad you like it. I'll change it to ''(region) color light'', and see how that looks. Thanks! [[User:Takharii|<sc>Takharii</sc>]] '''~''' [[User talk:Takharii|<sc>Talk!</sc>]] 08:43, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Just don't change the fields the parameters go in. Use part of [[User:TTEchidna/RegionInfobox|this]], too... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:47, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Not quite sure what you mean by using [[User:TTEchidna/RegionInfobox|this]], feel free to fiddle around with mine if you wish. Also, how do I make it so we can say "yes" or "no" to the sections from "villians" down? [[User:Takharii|<sc>Takharii</sc>]] '''~''' [[User talk:Takharii|<sc>Talk!</sc>]] 10:22, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::Where'd it go?! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:10, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::Oops, sorry XD. I moved it: [[User:Takharii/sandbox/regionbox]]
:::::::Like I said, the parameter fields (where Bulbasaur/Charmander/Squirtle and the like go) should stay white, while their labels should be the Kanto light. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:57, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

== Ugh... ==

The background color for [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Pokémon_Black_and_White_Versions#Names_in_other_languages this] should be white, right? If so, then what is interfering here that prevents it from being white? [[User:Pokemon lover|ポケモン]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|あいこうか]] 13:01, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:What do you mean? It ''is'' white... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:03, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
::I'm not talking about the columns where the entries for the names are located, I'm talking about the rest of the background, which is dark gray... .____.; [[User:Pokemon lover|ポケモン]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|あいこうか]] 12:25, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
:::It's supposed to be like that.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 12:36, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
::::In that case, I apologize for my ignorance and the confusion I've caused. [[User:Pokemon lover|ポケモン]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|あいこうか]] 12:57, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::It's dark gray because you set it at the beginning of the table. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:48, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

== Am I insane? ==

You might think I'm crazy, but just a minute ago, almost three months after HGSS, I encountered a 503. Yes, a 503. I thought, "Am I crazy?" HGSS load is long gone. COuld this be a sign of Gen V load? [[User:TyphlosionBlaze|TyphlosionBlaze]] 03:34, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
:And just when I saved I encountered a 504. Holy shit, what's going on?{{unsigned|TyphlosionBlaze}}
::It happens. The servers are stressed...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 03:47, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Welcome to the world of me. The servers are having a little issue lately. We're resolving it as quickly as we can. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:35, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

== You Know Who... ==

... is some vandal that {{u|CoolPikachu!|CP}} blocked, but he uploaded some horrible pics to the archives, can you go delete them now, please? [[User:Takharii|<sc>Takharii</sc>]] '''~''' [[User talk:Takharii|<sc>Talk!</sc>]] 08:21, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
:Apparently already taken care of. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:45, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

== [[User:Takharii/sandbox/regionbox|My Region Infobox]] ==

Who do you want me to bug about it? [[User:Takharii|<sc>Takharii</sc>]] '''~''' [[User talk:Takharii|<sc>Talk!</sc>]] 06:09, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
:Beats me. Looks pretty good; have you tested it? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:12, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah I have tested it, but I'm not really sure how to use that yes/no thing thats hides some sections For example, [[Almia]] it doesn't need sections from "Villanous Teams" down, but [[Kanto]] needs every section. Anyone who can fix that is free to do so. [[User:Takharii|<sc>Takharii</sc>]] '''~''' [[User talk:Takharii|<sc>Talk!</sc>]] 07:03, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
:::That'd be some pretty complex code. <nowiki>{{#if:}}s</nowiki> and stuff. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:18, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
::::I've put the code on the league and anime seasons parts, because the others seemed like they could be relevant, but it can be copied to the other sections easily enough. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 08:32, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

== Anatomy Vs. Physiology ==

I've been reading the Pokemon's physiology but I found it somewhat odd, I'm a medical student and I suggest that the Physiology term should be change in Anatomy because of the fact that when we define physiology, it means more on the function of the body while in anatomy, more on defining or explaining each part of the body...well try to define those.. just a suggestion but more on facts.ahmm another if we will use physiology it should be partnered with anatomy, meaning... we should put Anatomy and Physiology but if we will put that we need to add more data for all Pokemon, .thanks..--[[User:Gaspershut|''GASPER'']][[User talk:Gaspershut|''shut...'']] 13:25, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
:I know. I know. I know. I know ''I know.'' I've gotten this a bajillion times. Next project after the roundycorners are all fixed is to redo every Pokémon page. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:34, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

== I lost my talk page comment ==

When i posted in the talk page for 44hy regarding trivia, and checked back weeks later, it was gone! When i looked in the history awhile later thinking someone had removed it, it wasn't there! Here is the link: [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:44Hy&action=history]]. It isn't a big deal, since the trivia was fixed anyway, but it is a very big deal if it was more than just a one-time anomaly. [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 06:23, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
:Maybe you accidentally posted it, tried to save, it looked like it went through, but actually didn't. I dunno. I can't think of where it would have gone. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:48, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

== HEY BOSS, JUST LETTING YOU KNOW ==

WE'VE BEEN MISUSING THE WORD "PHYSIOLOGY" IN THE POKEMON PAGES. WE SHOULD PROBABLY CHANGE THAT.

JUST THOUGHT YOU'D WANT TO KNOW. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 17:59, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
:WE'RE NEVER CHANGING IT. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:26, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

== Re: O Hay ==

He had the same IP as me? I'm not related to him, this is my only account. I wonder if he's got my IP address by hacking my computer, you sure of his IP, the same as me? --[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] 11:09, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
:Two of them were. Maybe it's due to a dynamic IP allocation, but I dunno. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:29, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

== Project Fandom ==

I can't edit the Leaders page, so I need my name added [[Bulbapedia:Project Leaders|here]]. ~[[User:$aturn¥oshi|'''''$aturn''''''''''¥oshi''''']] [[User talk:$aturn¥oshi|THE VOICES]] 22:30, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

User talk:$aturn¥oshi

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$aturn¥oshi:

User talk:$aturn¥oshi/Archives1

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$aturn¥oshi: Archiving outdated discussions

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Thank you, and have a good time editing here! --[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 01:23, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

:Thanks! ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:31, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
::No problemo and ok.'''[[User:CoolPikachu!|♫Cool]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|Pikachu]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|!♫]]'''
== Neat ==
Your sig is cool. Where'd you learn wiki coding? --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 01:36, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah your fast '''[[User:CoolPikachu!|♫Cool]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|Pikachu]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|!♫]]'''

::I used to edit frequently on Wikipedia, until the users became too elitist. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:42, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

:::Ohh I also came from there but was on it seldomly '''[[User:CoolPikachu!|♫Cool]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|Pikachu]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|!♫]]'''

== Newcomer? ==
You're new here, too? (Oh, and I got Darkrai at Toys 'R' Us. He disliked me when I first got him! Thanks for responding back.) {{ani|385}}[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 17:29, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Apparently, it looks as though you leave something whenever I leave something on the Talk pages... A stalker Darkrai hiding in the shadows, following me? Just kidding, I actually appreciate it since I just started out today. ^.^ [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 19:44, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

== Question ==

Are you willing to do more? I can't do them myself because my computer can't read Japanese, so I can't be sure with any characters I use. I want to know how you are doing it, are you just searching attacks that the Pokémon might have? because if you are, that won't work for very long. Many of the cards have weird attacks that aren't present in the games and I was just wondering if that was how you were doing it. If you don't want to do more...I understand. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:12, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:Well then, I have a long list so we might as well get started now. {{TCG ID|5th Movie Half Deck|Oakley's Ariados|1}}. I think it would be better if I just link you the picture instead of posting the picture on your talk page: [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Oakleyariados.jpg] ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:34, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

::I won't be able to do too much right now, but I will get cracking on this as soon as I have more time. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:37, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:::That is perfectly fine. Just post the attacks on my page when you finish them! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:45, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:Okay, the following might be tough with the Poké-Body in it but: [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Samiyachatot1.jpg] I do not expect you to translate it for me right now, I am dealing with the mess known as {{TCG|"PCG-P" Promotional cards}} (which this card is actually in). ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:24, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
::A new Samiya's Chatot!! [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Samiyachatot2.jpg] ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 15:53, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
::I'm not sure about the Continuous Scratch because the damage is only 20, Continuous Scratch is an attack that would have 20× instead of just 20. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:04, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Okay. I'll give it another go. It's amazing that you can get completely different results by being just one character off. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:31, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
:If you can't get it, we can move on because I put the translation notice on the page. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:40, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Can I ask you to do something different for me? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 15:29, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah, go ahead. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:54, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::I need the kanji from the name in the top left corner for each of the following:
<gallery>
Image:Normalmovie.jpg
</gallery>
Could you do that for me please? If you click on the image, it should be bigger on the Archives. (Sorry if it seems like a lot...) ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:21, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:Well I was kinda right, something with translation~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 16:22, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::YES!!! That is exactly what I need (as far as I can tell, remember, I can't read Japanese on my computer) If you can get them all, you just pulled me out the hole I was in!! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:36, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Yay! Knocked out three. Only seven left. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:40, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::Aaron and Tory have their Jap. names already, but they have additions (like last names) added onto them. They are up there because I don't know what belongs and what doesn't. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:10, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Seven down. Three more to do! ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 00:11, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

== Diamond and Pearl Poketch ==

Actually, check the game, it says that Poketch is short for Pokemon Tech. Of this I am certain as I have had this argument with a number of people and they all agree with me now. {{Unsigned|Admiralaew}}
:Quote from the father of the President on the second floor of the Pokétch Company: "Pokémon Watch! That's Pokétch for short." ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 22:56, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

::Actually, I did check the game. It says Pokémon Watch. Those that believe you when you tell them "Pokémon Tech" are {{p|Mareep|sheep}}. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 23:17, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

:::I'm sorry, I concede. I realized what happened, basically I wasn't paying attention, stupid me, very very sorry. On a side note, I am curious as to how you create your signature. {{Unsigned|Admiralaew}}
::::For starters, sign your comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. For info on creating a custom sig, see the new {{bp|signature policy}}. It also contains rules on what you can and can't do with your sig, so read it carefully. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 23:44, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::That's basically the gist of it. Thank you, Martonimos. If you have a good grasp on wiki coding, you can create a sig that you like. It took a while for me to come up with this one, it's a altered version of my old Wikipedia signature. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:59, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

== Adminship ==

To be honest, I don't really feel like I deserve it. I'm kind of an ass on wikis. (And wasn't TTE kind of throwing power around to clean up the Capulet disaster quicker...?) Not to sound ungrateful. ;[--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 00:32, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

:I wasn't on during that fiasco, but out of all the people that were on you were one of the few that were selected. In my eyes, that counts for something. I don't think of you as being ungrateful, you're just unsure is all. Don't worry, everything will slip into place. Of this I am confident. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 03:15, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

== Cards ==

Finally, you are done, I can put you to work on something else{{tt|*|Don't worry, this next thing will be the last thing I need you to do for me for a while, I have a lot to do right now}}! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:33, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

:Okay. :D ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 03:34, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
::I need to know what the attacks off of the following are. And once again, Thank you so much!! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:39, 18 July 2008 (UTC) 
<Gallery>
Image:Ash'sTreeckocard.jpg
Image:May'sTorchiccard.jpg
Image:Brock'sMudkipcard.jpg
</gallery>
:Thank you...the attack Treecko has is most likely Tail Slap: a move that other Treecko have in the TCG. And there actually is a Water Arrow attack; so, you are correct for those. Thank you. I won't ask you to do anything for me for a while; I have about 6 sets to finish with the information that you've given me already. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:47, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

::You are welcome. Glad I could be of service. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 22:49, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

== ok? ==
ok bro i dun care if im off 1 day or 1 week i dont go on this website everyday... dont take it too hard im not cussing at u or anything im just saying that i have a life [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]

:I'm just saying that I don't care. Not to sound rude or anything. (Okay, maybe a little rude...) ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:56, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
::i ll show you rude if u want[[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]

:::Yeah, okay. I really have a lot better things to do than deal with children on the internet. Good day. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 22:56, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

== Congrats ==

Nice Job on getting ur missions accomplished, but u missed the Trozei! page itself--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 00:55, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:THUN THUN THUN!!!! ~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 00:57, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

::Got 'em. It's because I was looking for links. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 00:59, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:::hmm...~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 01:00, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

== Welcoming ==

Most of those were vandals and we don't welcome vandals. No biggie though, just remember for next time.''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:48, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

:Sorry, sometimes I get a little too carried away with my copy-and-pasting. Like I stated before, I wasn't on when that whole vandal war went down. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:12, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

== A favour to ask of you ==

Still in awe at the amount of work that has gone into the Japanese cards, I now have a bit of time to start mucking in again. You seem to be Orange's choice for help with these, and I'm in the same situation as him computer-wise, so could you help me with a card too?
This is the only one I can't find a source for, I was wondering if you could get the translation for the name and text of the second attack. I know the first attack is "Peck" and the second is "Metal"-something. I can't quite make out some characters in the text. Thanks! [[User:Nuva-kal|Nuva-kal]] 20:30, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Can you also do this as well as the kirlia...I need the kanji and translation off of this and the attack if possible. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:17, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
:Thank you! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 01:53, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
::Glad I could help. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:58, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Actually, I think the attack is "Light of Revival". Since it is an irregular attack, could you possibly translate the text? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:55, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Just trying to organize thing a bit. I need the title Kanji and the translations for the following three cards, and if you could do the effect for Celebi's Light of Revival attack, it would be appreciated but it is not necessary. Thank you. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:27, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:Actually, we finished all of those and moved on, sorry. (Or your welcome, because you no longer have to do them)
''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:05, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

== Golden Oldies ==

Sorry to bother you again, but these card articles I want to create are so old and rare, they don't have entries in the card database, and I don't have the kanji for them to translate. So I was wondering if you could get the kanji for the title and body text for the cards listed?

Secret Super Battle No. 1 [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:SecretSuperBattleNo1.jpg]

Tropical Mega Battle No. 1 [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:TropicalMegaBattleNo1.jpg]

No. 1 Trainer (2000/2001) [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:No1Trainer00.jpg]

Victory Ring [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:VictoryRingTrainer.jpg]

Victory Orb [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:VictoryOrbTrainer.jpg]

Victory Orb (Mew) [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:VictoryMewTrainer.jpg]

I know this is a rather large request, but finding out what these cards do will be a real treat for some collectors out there (me included!) Thanks. '''[[Surf (move)|~~]]''''''[[User:nuva-kal|nuva]]''''''-'''[[User_talk:nuva-kal|'''kal''']] 20:24, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

== Can you ==

translate Romanji into English? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 04:31, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:What do you have? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:08, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::Madowazu ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:32, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::Where was that taken from? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:34, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::::A game-exclusive Dark Ninetales card from the Japanese only sequal to Pokémon GB for the Gameboy Color. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:36, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::::It appears to mean "puzzlement", according to Babel Fish. I had to convert the word into Hiragana to see. I guess because it's from a game they opted not to use Kanji because it would be hard to read. Especially on a hand-held screen. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:53, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::Thank you, this means that the oldest card we don't have a page for will now get a page. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:55, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::::::I'll go get the fireworks. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:56, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::::We don't get the fireworks until every card has a page, hopefully before September 15th, with the release of POP Series 8. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:58, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::::::::I'll just hold on to them. And wait. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:02, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

==HELP==

[[Kimono Girl|Go here for an article desperately needing fixing]]--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 22:55, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

:Is it the picture alignment? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 23:12, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

== Yoshi? ==

Is your username from saturn(planet) and yoshi, the cute little dino from mario?

:Yes. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 04:31, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

User talk:$aturn¥oshi

2010-05-10T21:49:34Z

$aturn¥oshi: Clearing out the old stuff

User talk:MAGNEDETH/Archive7

2009-10-15T04:45:09Z

$aturn¥oshi: /* Protection */

<big><big><big><big>HEY, WHATS WITH ALL THE BROKEN TEMPLATES? AND WHATS WITH ALL THE PAGE PROTECTIONS? GO TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS PAGE TO FIND OUT!!!!</big></big></big></big>

'''|''' [[User_talk:MAGNEDETH/Archive1|Archive 1]]: 12/14/07 to 02/07/08 '''|''' [[User_talk:MAGNEDETH/Archive2|Archive 2]]: 02/09/08 to 02/22/08 '''|''' [[User_talk:MAGNEDETH/Archive3|Archive 3]]: 03/02/08 to 04/29/08 '''| |''' [[User_talk:MAGNEDETH/Archive4|Archive 4]]: 05/22/08 to 11/05/08 '''|'''
[[User_talk:MAGNEDETH/Archive5|Archive 5]]: 11/02/08 to 01/28/09 '''|'''
[[User_talk:MAGNEDETH/Archive6|Archive 6]]: 01/31/09 to 06/08/09 '''|'''

<big><big>'''BEFORE YOU COMMENT!!'''</big></big> 
There's been rumblings of too much non-pedia discussion around here, so, in best interest of that, if you want to tell me something personal, or just plain off-topic, [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/member.php?u=18973 send me a PM] '''OR''' visit the new [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=353 Bulbapedia Discussion Forum], instead of commenting here.

'''BTW...'''tired of waiting for a new Pokémon game just to tackle some new gyms? [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=366 Then bring it on.]

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== Apology Accepted? ==
Magnedeth, upon realizing how wrong my actions toward you and all the other sysop of the pedia, I would like to apologize for how antagonistically I have acted towards you. Please find it in your heart to forgive me.

Much♥, [[User:Lapras|Lapras]] 03:59, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:i dont hold grudges, so if you can prove to me youve changed, i will forgive you. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:17, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

== New TCG ==

Hey, I saw that Maverick Nate is on Hiatus and it said to redirect stuff to you. I found some Trading Cards on the official Japanese Pokémon Website, and I couldn't find a couple on here. The ones I found were [http://www.pokemon-card.com/card/index.php?mode=imagelist&pg=121 Anime Characters Pokémon]. There are two pages for that one, just scroll down and click 2. Also, for the Anime Characters Pokémon the Pichu cards are animated. Second, I found the [http://www.pokemon-card.com/products/promotion/randompack2009/ Movie 12 Pokémon Cards]. I hope those are of some use. -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 23:33, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:to quote Nate himself
<big><big><big> '''All TCG questions go to {{u|Nuva-kal}}!''' </big></big></big>
:me and Nate figured the big text would be enough, but i guess not. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 05:45, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
::I didn't consider that a TCG "question". Thanks though.-[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 15:37, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
:::well, youre showing me pictures of TCG info, what kind of question was it?? -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 17:55, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
::::I posted it on Nuva-kal's page, so done. -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 18:00, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

== Talk page ==

See [[Talk:Mayor Es Cade|here]]. What I wrote. Agreed? [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 15:45, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

==PLEASE HELP!==

I've spoted a guy that is making a mess around here deleting things *'''specially'''* from the latin america spanish dub related stuff so I wanted to ask you for help! If you could check him and... I don't know! Do something he has no reason or power to do such horrible things! His user name is Ash Ketchum Peru! I've been undoing his edits! please do something :D THANKS! (i don't mean to be rude or anything ;) but your an admin right? i totally forgot and i can't check that right know since I'm undoing this guy stuff){{u|YukitoOoO}} 17:18, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
:i dont know anything about Latin dub, so ive given him an edit flood block, but someone is going to have to step-in and help. really not my area. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 17:29, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
::OH MY GOD! Thank you sooo much! LOL I was about to go nuts here! I really apreciate it! he had absolutely no reason for doing this, only that he hates anything that has to do with the latin american dub, you can actually see this for your self in youtube, but he uses another name he is "Maestro POkemon peru" he had another acount there that was like "pokemonmasterperu" but got suspended for some bad things I think, just like what eh was doin here, he used to see latinamerican pokemon videos just to offend others and the dub! Agh! this guy! but, wait a minute, why only 2 hours? whe he comes back his going to keep doing the same thing! [[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 17:36, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
:::well, im obligated to give him a chance, but if he does it again when he returns, then we up the ante. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 17:37, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Oh Ok I see, thanks!!! And you're going to block his IP adress too right? [[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 17:41, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::no, we dont block IPs unless its a super bad vandal. blocking one IP can potentially block an entire ISP, which means many people would be blocked form the site. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 18:43, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Villa ==

[[Villa]] (Reverted edits by CubeShapedWatermelon (Talk) to last version by Mario136) Why? That is what happens on almost a daily basis [[User:CubeShapedWatermelon|CubeShapedWatermelon]] 01:43, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

== Welcoming ==

Is anyone allowed to welcome new users? This may sound like a stupid question to you, but... --[[User:CuboneKing|CUBONE PWNS]] ([[User talk:CuboneKing|Planet Cubone]] • [[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|Bone Club]]) [[Cubone (Pokémon)|THE VERY BEST PAGE!]] 22:45, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:Anyone is. Just use this: <nowiki>{{subst:welcome}}</nowiki>. Copy and paste that, and done. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 00:28, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

== question? ==

i am sorry, i didn't realize that i was wrong. but for future reference, what exactly is a userspace and a mainspace? i have no idea, i am new at this stuff. [[User:Empath-Silvio|Empath-Silvio]] 15:56, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
:i think i got it. thanks anyway [[User:Empath-Silvio|Empath-Silvio]] 15:56, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
::well, just to be clear, userspace is anything that starts with user, like {{u|MAGNEDETH|my page}} or {{u|Empath-Silvio|your page}}. and main space is anything that does not have a pre-fix, like {{p|Magnemite}}, [[EP030]], [[Ethan]], etc.... -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 16:01, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

== why have you given me a warning? ==

i'm new to bulbapedia.Why cant i edit my userspace? {{unsigned|Solidstate}}
:You can, But you have to Balance out your Userspace edits with your Mainspace edits. You were editing your Userspace a lot. and please sign <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> after your comment. ---> [[User:223david|<big>'''223'''</big>]][[Special:Contributions/223david|☆]][[User talk:223david|<big>'''Dåv]d'''</big>]]''' 07:22, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

== Pokemon Simulator ==

Why did you destroy the Pokémon Simulator article that I wrote? -from Pokemaster5000
:not written to spec, possibly not notable, and you spelled Pok'''é'''mon wrong. also, sign comments with 4 tildes (~) please. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 21:18, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
I don't know how to put that in the article name -from Pokemaster5000
:when you joined the site, you got a [[User talk:Pokemaster5000|talk page]] and at the top of it is a Welcome full of every piece of information you could ever want. i highly suggest you read this before creating any articles. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 21:23, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
ok thanks -from Pokemaster5000
it tells me to redirect how do i do that? and please tell me if the MoS tells me that too. [[User:Pokemaster5000|Pokemaster5000]] 21:29, 12 August 2009 (UTC)Pokemaster5000

==Sorry==

I have been using the preview button , the reason I have been editing my page so often is because i am a new user and wish too add templates as i find them(Also they're minor edits unless i forget to check the box)

one other question is, I have created a template (i liek shiny mudkipz), should i put this as a subpage such as User:Titan|Template:Shiny Mudkipz or where - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Titan}} ([[User talk:Titan|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Titan|contribs]]) ''
:bearing in mind, a fancy userpage is far from mandatory around here. and even then, its possible to add everything in one edit. also, even minor edits count against your daily userspace edit count. the trick is to not just use, but '''abuse''' the preview button, and make normal mainspace edits to sort of drown your userspace edits. also, sign your comments with 4 tildes (~) so your signature will show. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:53, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Oops sorry again

I've put the template [[User:Titan/Template:shiny mudkipz|here]], is that right or am i asking the wrong person --[[User:Titan|TiT]][[User_Talk:Titan|An]] 23:24, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Look, ==

I've been trying to keep the numbers down and I've been trying to combine large numbers of edits. The problem is that many times I try to fix a problem and when I look at the preview, its fine. But then sometime later I look at it and it isn't working again. --[[User:swampert_rox|Swampert]] [[Swampert (Pokémon)|=]] [[User talk:Swampert_rox|awesome]] ([[User:PhoenixGraphix#{{ucfirst:Daily (bleh)}}|bl]][[Special:Random|eh]]) 13:26, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
:well, thats not really an excuse. but if you can make some good edits, ill reduce the 30 days of abuse to 1 week. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 18:17, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

== Max King as Abuse ==

Can you mark Max King as "abuse". You may have thought he was blocked, but no. Evkl unblocked him saying that "There are no universal bans". Max King doesn't do anything but edit his user page. So as long as he's here, can you mark him as abuse so he'll start doing something useful? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:21, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:id love to just as easily ban him myself, but i talked to evkl about this and abuse sounds like the best we do for now. ill take care of it. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 20:23, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
::I haven't added anything to my page for a while, I think I just finished off the Kanto bit, and I am waiting to add more, but haven't found anywhere to edit yet so haven't added anymore. I was thinking of 3 mainspace edits for 1 User page edit. How does that sound? [[User:Max King|Max King]] 22:30, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:::thats fine, make 30 edits this month, and ill let you make 10 userspace. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 22:35, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Why in blocks of 30? I'm not on all that much, and there's not much to do, I could make 3 edits, maybe 6, and then get 1 or 2 user page edits? I just don't think i will ever be able to do 30 in a month? And why does it have to be in a month? If I did 25 in one month, then 5 in the next, would they carry over? Can't we deal in smaller denominations, instead of 30 MSE for 10 USE, why not just 3 MSE for 1 USE? [[User:Max King|Max King]] 22:42, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::That rule applies to everyone, not just you. Also, you edited your user page on August 18th. That isn't a while. That's less than a week. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:44, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:Does it carry over, say i only did 20 this month, and then did 10 in September, would I get 10 USE? [[User:Max King|Max King]] 22:48, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
::The point mostly is to start editing the mainspace. No one is going to sit and look at your contributions, and then ban you for not "doing 30." That would be a waste of time spent on something useful, and bad adminship by singling out a single user. Just try your best to add to pages, and I'll make sure that no one blocks you again without a real good reason, kay? ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 01:33, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

== If you could plz. ==

Tell me what the {{tt|definition|as in code}} of '''sigexpand''' is. I've Looked and looked, and I have [[Absol (Pokémon)|absol]]utely no idea what it is. Uncyclopedia {which does have sig expand defined} work's much differently then Bulba does. [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']]
:its entirely possible our wiki doesnt support that command at all. ive attempted to use some '''span''' codes from other wikis with no success. as for actually coding the '''span''' into the system, i dont have the knowledge or access to do so. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 05:59, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

== Can you give me something to do ==

Like a task or something? I can't find anything to do. [[User:Max King|Max King]] 12:23, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
:in the words of Major Kusanagi - "The net is vast and infinite." -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 17:13, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

== Protect ==

Can you protect my userpage.Because, I don`t want a second other User to blank my page.[[User:LucarioWolf|The AURA Wolf]] 18:08, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
:You do realize that if he protects it, you won't be able to edit it either, right?--'''Dark''' [[Mask of Ice|'''ICE''']] (User:Cold)([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 18:11, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
::yea, that kid is in abuse now anyway, he cant edit anything userspace. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 18:39, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
Ok,Don`t do.I had to give it a second thought.[[User:LucarioWolf|The AURA Wolf]] 20:19, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

== Sprite trivia ==

Since apparently about half of the sprite trivia we took out over the past two days counts as being acceptable trivia by your standards, where should we draw the line for what counts and what doesn't? If it mentions anything about the anime or manga we keep it? Because either way it's still sprite trivia. And one of the best examples is [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Charmander_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&diff=843974&oldid=842590 Charmander's] page. I don't think that's so notable, since it's only in a single sprite. You said something that "documented" doesn't get removed. Documented, meaning? Which goes back to where we need to draw the line on what counts. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 02:49, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
:that is a great question. basically the problem i had was that 100% of sprite trivia was deleted, and thats wrong. surely some of it is notable. and even so, its only trivia, it isnt hurting anyone. but that particular example is referenced in the Manga a few times, so yea, its from more than one media. for the most part, some color changes are negligible, but when a Pokemon has noticeable physical differences, then why not make a note of it? basically, Sketch said "delete it all" but he didnt check with anyone, and i didnt really like that. so yes, a lot was useless, but some of it is fine.so im going to scan it all in my free time to keep the good stuff. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 03:12, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

::Alright. Because it's not the first time somebody's said to try to get rid of sprite trivia, and we didn't have anything to do at the time, so we started on that finally. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 01:43, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

== Some userspace edits ==

I made 6 edits yesterday, and under the ratio of 3-1 which we said, can I now please have 2 User Space edits. I need to make frequent updates, so I don't get lost or forget to add something in to my userpage, so may I please have my 2 edits now? Can I be taken off of abuse, you can trust me, I promise that I will only make a Userspace edit after 3 good mainspace edits. You can trust me, and if you don't feel like you can trust me, then you could monitor it, so I can prove that you can trust me?

Also, although I am owed 2 edits, I think I could add it all in just 1 edit. But that's because at the moment I only have 2 days to add, but it builds up and then i forget stuff. So may I please have my 2 edits now. [[User:Max King|Max King]] 12:31, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
:He said after you make 30, you can have 10. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 17:30, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
::But I will lose track of what I've done on my game :( Please, it;s the same ratio, please, show some compasion. 30-10=3-2=6-2, I've done 1/5 of the task, so can't I have 1/5 of the reward? [[User:Max King|Max King]] 19:43, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Write it down on Word or something... --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 19:47, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

== HEY! ==
Why do you hate the Pokémon anime? It's so cool! [[User:Tommy-SAN|TOMMY-SAN (MyTalk)]] 22:09, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
:to specify, i hate any anime that isnt the original series. May is a personality void, Max is annoying, and Dawn is both annoying and ridiculously stupid. add to that Ash being a technically horrible trainer. and they dont battle enough. too many contests these days. i want to see gym battles, not fancy bubbles. and finally, the voice change removed any shred of nostalgia the series held to that point, and it was all over. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:49, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

I agree but I find Dawn less anoying than May. Also Nobody but Ash has any good Pokémon. [[User:Random Chaos|Random]] [[User talk:Random Chaos|Chaos]] [[User:Random Chaos/Sandbox|Was here]][http://chaos-shepherd.deviantart.com/ ☃] 15:20, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

== Party Templates ==

So I noticed you've been changing some of the templates. How much is going to be permanently changed for the default templates? I'm asking so that I don't screw anything up for when I'm re-arranging everything. I'm going to change everything to make it more compact after I finish most of the Gen. III and some Gen. IV parties. Also, for the templates [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:Rocket_Admin_Hunter_Blade/Sandbox here], do any of the Gym Leaders' or Silver's templates need to be changed? I'm keeping those for when HGSS is out, and I want them to be right the first time they get put up. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 02:12, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
:the style were implementing right now is the new norm, HOWEVER, dont start doing them just yet, its like a "beta release" right now and TTE will soon be installing the show/hide ability. after that itll be the new standard. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:14, 4 September 2009
::Okay. I'll keep doing what I've been doing, and then eventually update everything when I'm done. Unless somebody beats me to it, but then I'd be out of things that I can actually do. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 03:44, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
:::nonsense, theres always something to do, like these templates, i think its safe to start doing them. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 03:45, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
::::I meant things that I know how to do and that I can actually find info on, but whatever. Any idea when TTE'll be done with the updates? '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 20:41, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::well, as previously stated, theyre safe to use now, you can start doing them. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 20:42, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::Alright. I'll have to mess around with them a little to get used to it. I'll start doing it like that when I go through templates. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 20:49, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::these are much easier than the old ones, so just copy and paste one onto a section, mess with it, and yull see how it all works. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 20:50, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::I noticed. I was getting annoyed by the different codings for PartyBody22 and PartyBody23. The coding for some of the things were messed up and some things were the opposite... '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 20:55, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::hmmm, idk, no one else has had much of a problem. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 20:56, 4 September 2009
Some numbers went a certain way, others went another... anyways, the 22 and 23 were just the style of party body. The first number is how many rows (top and bottom) of Pokémon, so if it's 3 or under the number is a 1, if it's 4 or more, then it's a 2. You probably already know, so I don't have to explain it. It might have also just been that I expected certain things to be ordered one way but they weren't. It doesn't really matter though. I learned to deal with it. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 21:02, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
:yea, instead of having 4 Pokemon be 3 across one below, its 2x2. and 5 is 3x2 with the bottom 2 Olympic rings style. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 21:03, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
::Yep. I'm trying it out with [[Tabitha]]'s page right now, unless we don't have a light or dark fire color. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 21:07, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
:::we have a light and dark of every color, so dont worry about it. in fact, if you encounter one that doesnt exist, inform someone. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 21:08, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Oh crap. Where are the genders? Don't we need those? Or are they not important any more? '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 21:10, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::just put "gender=male/female" and for Pokemon that have different gender sprites, add "gendersprite=male/female" after it. for Pokemon with no gender, add nothing. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 21:12, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::Hmmm... alright. The reason I'm spazzing is because I'm using Janine's "last changes" thing to figure out what to change, and genders weren't added to her new template. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 21:15, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::hmm, i did Janine, so prob a mistake on my part. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 21:16, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::That's fine. As for items, I'm guessing I just put item=berry/other, right? '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 21:18, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::simply put "held=Sitrus Berry" or "held=Scope Lens" for examples. no linking required. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 21:19, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
Okay. That'll be easier than all of the sprite1=, type1=2, type12=Dark, type22=Water.... I think it was the types that annoyed me the most. The thing I was talking about earlier was the 12 and 22. I expected the 2 to always be first, because that's what number in line the Pokémon is, and then expected the type 1 and 2 to be second. It just seemed simpler. That's my opinion though, so nobody else really had trouble with it. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 21:24, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
:i hated it too, thats why i really like this new design. and we can use the internal Pokemon template separately to make individual Pokemon two. so we accidentally/purposely create two templates at once. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 21:27, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
::Nice. This'll still take a while to get used to doing, but oh well. All I was really doing for the re-arranging was making it slightly easier to edit if they needed to be. That's why I broke everything up so that it was like:

*sprite
*Pokémon
*gender
*level
*number of types
*types
*ability
*item

And so on. I did that so the already confusing coding could be easily navigated instead of having it all mashed together. Really the only stuff I haven't touched is Blue's page because it's already so freaking huge. For ability I assume I just put ability=Intimidate. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 21:33, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
:::right. just look at the ones i did on other pages. ive organized mine to make more sense when editing. i did [[Lt. Surge]] which containes 3 generations, and then see [[Volkner]] for Gen IV. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 21:36, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Alright, thanks. I'll ask if I have any more questions other than this last one: for templates that have Shadow Pokémon, such as the [[Miror B.]] ones I had started a little, how do we say they're Shadow? Just a note at the bottom like Cold changed it to, or how it used to be like [[Lovrina]] still has? '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 21:40, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::probably the one parameter i havnt messed with, so i dont know. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 21:43, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::Ehhhh, I think after finishing the first party for Tabitha, I'll mess with it. I probably won't actually change anything yet, but still. It's good to try. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 21:47, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

== Side game ==

{{Template|Side game}} See talk page please. Many questions not answered... especially the first one... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 19:40, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:i dont really do side games, so idk. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:43, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::It's fine, I'm just worried about curved edges... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 19:48, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:::oh that, well, ask TTE. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:50, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Alright... I just don't want to bother him... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 19:52, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::well, im telling you to bother him. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:53, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::K. XD [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 19:54, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:The final thing then is to try to fix up {{Template|HeldItems}} regarding the Frontier parser which I recently added. The star (*) isn't working out for me, since I have to add it to re1, rse1, and se1... is this something you could help me with? [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 19:58, 8 September 2009
::hmmm, id suggest TTE again. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:59, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

== 2 things ==

Route 47 is confirmed by Serebii (near Safari Zone). Second, Serebii also confirmed HM05 as {{m|Whirlpool}} (well duh...Whirl Islands). We need a new parser for that then... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:36, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
:im not concerned about "if" its confirmed, because i know it is, but we cant have an article stating "its in the game" i we want actual details. the page is only protected from new users, so if you want to have at it, go for it. as for Whirlpool, well find a way to deal with it. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:38, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
::Yeah... I'll leave it alone for now. I still don't have the game yet, and I'll just wait for Serebii to give out more info. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:47, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Actually, you're wrong. [[Route 47]] (no, I don't use redlink here) cannot be created, it says this: "''This title has been protected from creation by TTEchidna. The reason given is "I should be there by then...".''" '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 18:26, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
::::then i guess TTE re-protected it. i protected it yesterday from new users. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 18:27, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

==Johto Dex==
Serebii just finished with the Johto Dex listing and I posted the link and specific details on the Johto Dex talk page so take a look when you have a minute. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 18:21, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
:ill check it out now. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 18:25, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks and I also think that the trivia piece on that page needs to be changed or removed since it looks like the same ol'Johto dex, just with a minor upgrade with Generation IV Pokémon after reading over it again. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 18:35, 11 September 2009
:::ill look into it. hell, after i finish fixing it up there wont be any reason to keep it protected anymore really. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 18:36, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Thanks for you help and just so you know I fully support your decision to keep that page protected a little longer due to the rush. I'm sure you'll be able to update the New Pokédex page as well, but anyway this is the last I will say on this subject. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 19:10, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::well i dont really have the time to get to the other Pokedex right now, but maybe later, anyone can do that one, its not protected. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:11, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::Right, I did that and the only thing I did was a minor update and removed information that looked off-topic to me, but may have some potential as a trivia piece elsewhere. Also when you get a chance the infobox for the Generation II Elite Four needs an overhaul. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 20:05, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::well, when more people come online itll be a bit easier to get everything done. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 20:06, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

== USERSPACE EDITS ==
Excuse me? But I can edit my user page as MUCH AS I WANT TO. So there. Segooga!☆--[[User:Sandshrew-san|--Sandshrew-sanSEGOOGA!]] 22:43, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
:actually you cant, you really really really cant. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:01, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
::Let [[User:Sandshrew-san|--sanSEGOOGA!]] edit his page as much as he wants to {{unsigned|Gengarblood3}}
:::Yeah, Gengarblood3 and Sandshrew-san are obviously the same person. I blocked Sandshrew infinitely and Gengar for one month. If you feel that Gengar should have a harsher sentence, be my guest. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:37, 12 September 2009
::::sounds fine. question is, how will he act when he returns? -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:27, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Sandshrew-san is my brother, gengarblood3 is totally different. Gengar deserves a perma block because he curses, Sandshrew-san is my brother and he promised to stop doing all this. I'm really sorry for what he did and he will be apologizing in person pretty soon. * --[[User:Tommy-SAN|'''T☆MMY''']][[User talk:Tommy-SAN|'''SAN!''']][[Special:Contributions/Tommy-SAN|'''♂''']]
:thats great and all, but your brother still isnt getting his userspace privileges back. also, please sign your name with '''4''' tildes, not just 3. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:38, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Yea sorry, i just had to change a sprite number from 284 to 384 (silly typo, didnt even notice it when i did the show preview ><). just curious, why is customizing your userspace and editing it such a big deal here? on Guild Wars wiki, no1 ever commented on it. [[User:Volsak|Volsak]] 21:59, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

== images ==

I never said I didn't get them from Serebii.net and I just wanted people to see what the gyms look like in HeartGold and SoulSilver. {{unsigned|GymLeader Dalton}}
:well, wherever you got them from, THEY got them from Serebii. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 21:53, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

how do you know that? they might have the game and played as a boy with Celebi and taken a screenshot at the same place.{{unsigned|GymLeader Dalton}}
:because theyre the exact same screens as from Serebii! and besides, for a purpose made image for BP, a Bulbasaur would make much more sense. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 22:01, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

maybe they don't have a Bulbasaur and took the picture themselves on No$GBA {{unsigned|GymLeader Dalton}}
:im not allowing those images on the pages. also, sign your comments with 4 tildes (~) please. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 22:04, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

i don't know how{{unsigned|GymLeader Dalton}}
:how to what, sign? i just told you how! -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 22:05, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

fine{{[[User:GymLeader Dalton|GymLeader Dalton]] 22:07, 14 September 2009 (UTC)|GymLeader Dalton}}

== Re: Hi ==

Noted.

After these are complete, "''my profile''", I don't think I will be editing anything anymore. (except for the "next episode", which i will edit every Saturday...)

Btw, wat's a Mainspace? --[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] 04:38, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
:mainspace is any page that does NOT start with "User" or "User talk" so this page, or you user page do NOT count. but pages like {{p|Magnemite}}, {{a|Magnet Pull}}, [[EP030]], or [[Zero]], and any page that doesnt have a pre-fix on it, those are "mainspace" pages. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:42, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

::But I think my userpage is about me (profile) only.

::Using a mainspace will create more and more pages that is not needed for others' use.
And sometimes, the time will run out, resulting in the loss of many info. --[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] 04:46, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
:::im not sure youre familiar how our wiki works. youre not allowed to edit your own pages as much as you want, its against the rules. (its all explained in the warning i gave you) so to be honest, unless you have the intention of editing the site usefully, then youre probably going to get in even more trouble.-- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:50, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

ok, i will not be editing anything anymore. To prevent from editing frequently, the "next episode" part will be deleted. Sorry and Thanks! --[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] 04:54, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

== I thinkTrancebuddah/Santos should get a perma ==

But that's just me. Intimidating behavior and harassment + Abusing multiple accounts. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 03:53, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
:yea i know, but looking at their edits, they did edit legitimately for a short period of time, and even though they said the same thing, they dont come back as the same person. oh well, if its something else, they can e-mail us. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 03:54, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
::Yeah, guess you are right. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 03:55, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
:::and by that i mean, ill perma-them anyway. i just wanted to check out the situation first. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 03:56, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

== Gym Leader Sprites ==

Hold on a second. We are trying to keep all of the leader sprites as the non-moving png images. [[User_talk:TTEchidna#Generation_IV_Leader_Sprites|I spoke to TTE and he said]] he wanted to keep the consistincy with Platinum but since they do not loop we should keep it as the non-moving. Additionally, we want to keep the animations to a minimum as it slows down computers, and on top of that the some of the animated sprites are horrible for example, Brocks. So I hope that clears things up a bit. –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 04:18, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
:you see, it bothers me when no one brings this up to me... *stares at TTE* -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:32, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
::I take full responsibility for this. I really should have told you earlier, sorry. –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 04:35, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
:::eh, i dont blame you. i dont really blame anyone. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:40, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Good. ^^ I am watching all those pages like a hawk so, I think we should be good. If you see any being changed again though, please fix them. Thanks! –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 04:41, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::thankfully its not a big deal if we forget one, but yes, now i know (and knowing is half the battle). -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:50, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

== Party templates ==

Could you change the default ability to ''Ability unknown'', instead of ''No ability''? It sounds weird. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 05:18, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
:i wondered that myself. i figured TTE would do that naturally, so i guess he had a reason, ill ask him. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 05:47, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

== Userspace warnings ==

What's the template to issue warnings? I'm stupid and keep forgetting them. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 00:19, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
:1. <nowiki>{{subst:userwarning}}</nowiki>
:2. <nowiki>{{subst:userwarning|1}}</nowiki>
:3. <nowiki>{{subst:userwarning|2}}</nowiki>
:4. <nowiki>{{subst:userwarning|3}}</nowiki> - though, before issuing this, get a Bcrat to put them in abuse. no point in telling them theyre privileges are gone when they arent.
:all the templates are pre-signed, so you dont even have to sign your name. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 00:22, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks. I knew it had a 'u' somewhere in there, but couldn't remember what it was. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 00:27, 23 September 2009
:::well, '''u'''ser has a u in it.. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 00:27, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

== Userspace edits ==

Hello I was just wondering how many times I had to edit the mainspace pages to be able to edit my userspace page. I have so far only made one mainspace edit. Is it a one for one system? [[User:Mistercaso|Mistercaso]] 09:59, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
:there is not set number, but lets say 20 mainspace to one userspace. i personally go about 100/1, but i do a lot of editing. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 18:52, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
:3 is normally what is allowed before somebody gets a warning. On rare occasions 4 edits can get by when nobody sees it, but I don't recommend trying to do that. It's best to make big edits, or little edits over the course of a few days so that the recent changes don't get flooded by userspace edits. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 13:40, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

== Hey, um ==

Is it OK if I make actual articles out of the redirects [[Kanto Pokédex]], [[Johto Pokédex]], [[Hoenn Pokédex]] and [[Sinnoh Pokédex]]? I don't want my efforts to go to waste... I'm back! ''Alpha'' [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 01:56, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
:what would such an article contain? and your efforts dont "go to waste", its all in a matter of just plain 'ol effort. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:58, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
::Just plain info about the Pokédex (the model deisgn, trivial notes, stuff like that). I'm back! ''Alpha'' [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:01, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
:::all that information is located on the [[Pokédex]] page. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:03, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
::::We could just cut down the info on that page a little bit and add one of those {{main|User:CuboneKing}} kind of links. I'm back! ''Alpha'' [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:05, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::potentially yes, but it would have to get discussed among other board members first. ill look into it. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:06, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::Thanks for your time! I'm back! ''Alpha'' [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:07, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

== Template ==

What do you think of [[User:Ht14/Status|this]]? Pretty neat, huh? Still needs work, and I'm still deciding on whether it's mainspace worthy.... most likely not... still good for referencing though... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 22:47, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
:not bad, but, its also not roundy! -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 22:49, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
::Yeah... about that... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 22:59, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Is it mainspace-worthy though (assuming I get the edges curved and all)? [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 23:00, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
::::idk, thats more of a TTE question. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:00, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

== Um ==

Who created my to-be subpage? Birthday! ''Alpha'' [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 03:46, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
:who did what? -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 03:48, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
::I noticed in the deletion log, "User:CuboneKing/HG". WHile I plan on making it, I have no memory of making it. Birthday! ''Alpha'' [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 03:50, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
:::oh that, that was your friend {{u|LugiaRocks}}. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 03:51, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
::::What'd I ever yo do him? And what did he put on the page? Birthday! ''Alpha'' [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 23:21, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::You reverted some of [[Special:Contributions/LugiaRocks|his/her/its <s>edits</s> fanwanks]]{{tt|*|Remember the one about Flygon and Salamence being related?}}, so he/she/it created the page with "loser". Some poeple get offended '''''WAY''''' too easily to use the internet. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 23:57, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

==I am confused==

I only edited my page once. Why is that bad????????? [[User:Kingdonfin|Kingdonfin]] 01:17, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
:that is true, you did only edit once on the 28th, HOWEVER, since joining the site in January, you have made '''2''' mainspace edits, and that is against the rules. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:25, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

== Minor issue... ==

... on coding of {{p|Wormadam}}. Thanks. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:30, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
:usually helps if you describe the issue. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 03:31, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
::True... it's on the summary page actually. Trash cloak section can't hide... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:34, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
:::there ya go. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 03:36, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
::::TY. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:37, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

==Katie50 has a ?==

Hi, my name is Kaitie 50 and I've been on bulbapedia since i was in eighth grade and i've been using bulbapedia more often now (considering my dad blocked youtube). Anyways I was wondering what you meant when you said I can't edit my Page? Because I still want to make changes to it considering I'm not done with it yet.
And what do you mean the main page other Articles? cause if thats it i've done minor edits and stuff like that. {{unsigned|Kaitie50}}
:well Katie, as per our [[Bulbapedia:Userspace policy|userspace policy]], we dont want users editing their userpage more than the mainspace pages. you have been editing your userpage more than mainspace pages, so you got warned. just make more edits to main pages and there wont be a problem. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:37, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

== Templates ==

I wold make this under my userspace unless I though these would be usable so I have two ideas for fairly useable templates I want to run by you and than just tell me whether you think I should put them under my userspace and wait or that they can just come out.

* Favorite Eeveelution
* Favorite Item

So deliberate. [[User:BrokenMotor|BrokenMotor]] 21:28, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
:i was under the impression the Eevee one already existed unless someone just custom made one. if you want to make a basic template, just use the {{template|User Template}}. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 21:33, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
::Yeah except I need to know how to get in different Item pictures without getting the whole thing changed, any ideas? {{unsigned|BrokenMotor}}
:::Put <nowiki>[[File:Bag {{{1|Master Ball}}} Sprite.png|50px]] as the image name. When you put the template on a page you'll write {{template name|item name}}</nowiki>, otherwise it will turn up displaying your favourite item as the Master Ball. {{u|The dark lord trombonator}} 01:44, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

== A response, from Mental Dario. ==

I don't give a damn about your 'regulations' and 'protocols'! What I proclaim is not simply my opinion, it is the voice of a nation! And I will not be silenced by a person with little to no grasp of proper grammar! [[User:Mental Dario|Mental Dario]] 08:25, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
:The wild Magndeth is fast asleep, so allow me to chime in. I'm also a member of the Editorial Board, and simply love how you moan about grammar yet used the wrong two/too/to. Not the first time I've seen that, by the way. Gotta love the irony. Anyway, what you are doing is harassment, and we can block you for that. Consider this your final warning. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:31, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

== Can I edit again? ==

I mean like, really. I do it every now and again, and its usually a mistake. Sorry.
--[[User:Mclena45|Mclena45]] 22:06, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
:You haven't really done anything to prove that you deserve your userpage privileges back. In fact, you haven't done anything since you were put in abuse. Make some contributions to the mainspace. That is anything that's not under User or Talk. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:03, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

== Sorry... ==

Look, I'm Truly Sorry And Have Seen The Errors Of My Ways!!! Please, Forgive Me...
[[User:Bazza|Bazza]] 17:51, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
:dont worry, i dont hold grudges. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 18:58, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

== Protection ==

Why are so many pages being protected all of a sudden? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 01:49, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
:were doing a major template modification and we cant let anyone mess with the pages. its a precautionary measure. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:50, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
::Ah, okay. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 01:51, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

<big><big><big><big>^^THIS IS WHATS GOING ON^^ ^^STOP ASKING QUESTIONS^^</big></big></big></big>

just remember everyone, only the main Pokemon pages are protected and theres still plenty of other pages around here to edit. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:30, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
:HEY HEY HEY HEY MAGNEDETH {{tt|WHAT'S GOING ON???|In all seriousness, thanks for all the hard work. That goes for all the others, too.}} [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 02:07, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
::{{tt|MAGS MAGS MAGS I WANNA KNOW WHATS HAPPENING|You should move this to the top of the page and link it down here in case someone hits the +new section button and doesn't see this}}--'''[[Water (type)|Liquid]]''' [[Mask of Ice|'''ICE''']] (User:Cold)([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 02:10, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
:::{{tt|WHY!?!?!?|It's already there...}} [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:11, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
::::Is the Pokédex app also based on the moves as well? [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:12, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Oh I thought a mode whent troll.[[User:Random Chaos|Random]] [[User talk:Random Chaos|Chaos]] [[User:Random Chaos/Sandbox|Was here]][http://random-cerberus.deviantart.com/ ☃] 02:24, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

::What's up with Koffing's page? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 04:28, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Every page is like that. Fighting against Studio Bastards or whatever it is. Wooo!!!! [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 04:35, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
::::Well, not every one, but alot. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 04:37, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Well then, have fun. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 04:45, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

User talk:$aturn¥oshi

2009-10-15T04:31:27Z

$aturn¥oshi: /* Yoshi? */

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For anyone interested, non-Pokémon info on me can be found {{wp|User:SaturnYoshi|here}}. (May not be completely updated.) 

And... No, my name does ''not'' come from a [[Saturn|member]] of [[Team Galactic]].
 

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*I have none at the moment...
 
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Thank you, and have a good time editing here! --[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 01:23, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

:Thanks! ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:31, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
::No problemo and ok.'''[[User:CoolPikachu!|♫Cool]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|Pikachu]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|!♫]]'''
== Neat ==
Your sig is cool. Where'd you learn wiki coding? --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 01:36, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah your fast '''[[User:CoolPikachu!|♫Cool]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|Pikachu]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|!♫]]'''

::I used to edit frequently on Wikipedia, until the users became too elitist. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:42, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

:::Ohh I also came from there but was on it seldomly '''[[User:CoolPikachu!|♫Cool]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|Pikachu]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|!♫]]'''

== Newcomer? ==
You're new here, too? (Oh, and I got Darkrai at Toys 'R' Us. He disliked me when I first got him! Thanks for responding back.) {{ani|385}}[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 17:29, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Apparently, it looks as though you leave something whenever I leave something on the Talk pages... A stalker Darkrai hiding in the shadows, following me? Just kidding, I actually appreciate it since I just started out today. ^.^ [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 19:44, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

== Question ==

Are you willing to do more? I can't do them myself because my computer can't read Japanese, so I can't be sure with any characters I use. I want to know how you are doing it, are you just searching attacks that the Pokémon might have? because if you are, that won't work for very long. Many of the cards have weird attacks that aren't present in the games and I was just wondering if that was how you were doing it. If you don't want to do more...I understand. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:12, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:Well then, I have a long list so we might as well get started now. {{TCG ID|5th Movie Half Deck|Oakley's Ariados|1}}. I think it would be better if I just link you the picture instead of posting the picture on your talk page: [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Oakleyariados.jpg] ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:34, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

::I won't be able to do too much right now, but I will get cracking on this as soon as I have more time. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:37, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:::That is perfectly fine. Just post the attacks on my page when you finish them! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:45, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:Okay, the following might be tough with the Poké-Body in it but: [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Samiyachatot1.jpg] I do not expect you to translate it for me right now, I am dealing with the mess known as {{TCG|"PCG-P" Promotional cards}} (which this card is actually in). ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:24, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
::A new Samiya's Chatot!! [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Samiyachatot2.jpg] ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 15:53, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
::I'm not sure about the Continuous Scratch because the damage is only 20, Continuous Scratch is an attack that would have 20× instead of just 20. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:04, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Okay. I'll give it another go. It's amazing that you can get completely different results by being just one character off. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:31, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
:If you can't get it, we can move on because I put the translation notice on the page. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:40, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Can I ask you to do something different for me? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 15:29, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah, go ahead. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:54, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::I need the kanji from the name in the top left corner for each of the following:
<gallery>
Image:Normalmovie.jpg
</gallery>
Could you do that for me please? If you click on the image, it should be bigger on the Archives. (Sorry if it seems like a lot...) ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:21, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:Well I was kinda right, something with translation~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 16:22, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::YES!!! That is exactly what I need (as far as I can tell, remember, I can't read Japanese on my computer) If you can get them all, you just pulled me out the hole I was in!! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:36, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Yay! Knocked out three. Only seven left. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:40, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::Aaron and Tory have their Jap. names already, but they have additions (like last names) added onto them. They are up there because I don't know what belongs and what doesn't. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:10, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Seven down. Three more to do! ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 00:11, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

== Diamond and Pearl Poketch ==

Actually, check the game, it says that Poketch is short for Pokemon Tech. Of this I am certain as I have had this argument with a number of people and they all agree with me now. {{Unsigned|Admiralaew}}
:Quote from the father of the President on the second floor of the Pokétch Company: "Pokémon Watch! That's Pokétch for short." ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 22:56, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

::Actually, I did check the game. It says Pokémon Watch. Those that believe you when you tell them "Pokémon Tech" are {{p|Mareep|sheep}}. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 23:17, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

:::I'm sorry, I concede. I realized what happened, basically I wasn't paying attention, stupid me, very very sorry. On a side note, I am curious as to how you create your signature. {{Unsigned|Admiralaew}}
::::For starters, sign your comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. For info on creating a custom sig, see the new {{bp|signature policy}}. It also contains rules on what you can and can't do with your sig, so read it carefully. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 23:44, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::That's basically the gist of it. Thank you, Martonimos. If you have a good grasp on wiki coding, you can create a sig that you like. It took a while for me to come up with this one, it's a altered version of my old Wikipedia signature. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:59, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

== Adminship ==

To be honest, I don't really feel like I deserve it. I'm kind of an ass on wikis. (And wasn't TTE kind of throwing power around to clean up the Capulet disaster quicker...?) Not to sound ungrateful. ;[--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 00:32, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

:I wasn't on during that fiasco, but out of all the people that were on you were one of the few that were selected. In my eyes, that counts for something. I don't think of you as being ungrateful, you're just unsure is all. Don't worry, everything will slip into place. Of this I am confident. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 03:15, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

== Cards ==

Finally, you are done, I can put you to work on something else{{tt|*|Don't worry, this next thing will be the last thing I need you to do for me for a while, I have a lot to do right now}}! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:33, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

:Okay. :D ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 03:34, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
::I need to know what the attacks off of the following are. And once again, Thank you so much!! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:39, 18 July 2008 (UTC) 
<Gallery>
Image:Ash'sTreeckocard.jpg
Image:May'sTorchiccard.jpg
Image:Brock'sMudkipcard.jpg
</gallery>
:Thank you...the attack Treecko has is most likely Tail Slap: a move that other Treecko have in the TCG. And there actually is a Water Arrow attack; so, you are correct for those. Thank you. I won't ask you to do anything for me for a while; I have about 6 sets to finish with the information that you've given me already. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:47, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

::You are welcome. Glad I could be of service. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 22:49, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

== ok? ==
ok bro i dun care if im off 1 day or 1 week i dont go on this website everyday... dont take it too hard im not cussing at u or anything im just saying that i have a life [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]

:I'm just saying that I don't care. Not to sound rude or anything. (Okay, maybe a little rude...) ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:56, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
::i ll show you rude if u want[[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]

:::Yeah, okay. I really have a lot better things to do than deal with children on the internet. Good day. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 22:56, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

== Congrats ==

Nice Job on getting ur missions accomplished, but u missed the Trozei! page itself--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 00:55, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:THUN THUN THUN!!!! ~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 00:57, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

::Got 'em. It's because I was looking for links. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 00:59, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:::hmm...~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 01:00, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

== Welcoming ==

Most of those were vandals and we don't welcome vandals. No biggie though, just remember for next time.''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:48, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

:Sorry, sometimes I get a little too carried away with my copy-and-pasting. Like I stated before, I wasn't on when that whole vandal war went down. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:12, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

== A favour to ask of you ==

Still in awe at the amount of work that has gone into the Japanese cards, I now have a bit of time to start mucking in again. You seem to be Orange's choice for help with these, and I'm in the same situation as him computer-wise, so could you help me with a card too?
This is the only one I can't find a source for, I was wondering if you could get the translation for the name and text of the second attack. I know the first attack is "Peck" and the second is "Metal"-something. I can't quite make out some characters in the text. Thanks! [[User:Nuva-kal|Nuva-kal]] 20:30, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Can you also do this as well as the kirlia...I need the kanji and translation off of this and the attack if possible. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:17, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
:Thank you! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 01:53, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
::Glad I could help. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:58, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Actually, I think the attack is "Light of Revival". Since it is an irregular attack, could you possibly translate the text? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:55, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Just trying to organize thing a bit. I need the title Kanji and the translations for the following three cards, and if you could do the effect for Celebi's Light of Revival attack, it would be appreciated but it is not necessary. Thank you. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:27, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:Actually, we finished all of those and moved on, sorry. (Or your welcome, because you no longer have to do them)
''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:05, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

== Golden Oldies ==

Sorry to bother you again, but these card articles I want to create are so old and rare, they don't have entries in the card database, and I don't have the kanji for them to translate. So I was wondering if you could get the kanji for the title and body text for the cards listed?

Secret Super Battle No. 1 [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:SecretSuperBattleNo1.jpg]

Tropical Mega Battle No. 1 [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:TropicalMegaBattleNo1.jpg]

No. 1 Trainer (2000/2001) [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:No1Trainer00.jpg]

Victory Ring [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:VictoryRingTrainer.jpg]

Victory Orb [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:VictoryOrbTrainer.jpg]

Victory Orb (Mew) [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:VictoryMewTrainer.jpg]

I know this is a rather large request, but finding out what these cards do will be a real treat for some collectors out there (me included!) Thanks. '''[[Surf (move)|~~]]''''''[[User:nuva-kal|nuva]]''''''-'''[[User_talk:nuva-kal|'''kal''']] 20:24, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

== Can you ==

translate Romanji into English? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 04:31, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:What do you have? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:08, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::Madowazu ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:32, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::Where was that taken from? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:34, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::::A game-exclusive Dark Ninetales card from the Japanese only sequal to Pokémon GB for the Gameboy Color. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:36, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::::It appears to mean "puzzlement", according to Babel Fish. I had to convert the word into Hiragana to see. I guess because it's from a game they opted not to use Kanji because it would be hard to read. Especially on a hand-held screen. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:53, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::Thank you, this means that the oldest card we don't have a page for will now get a page. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:55, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::::::I'll go get the fireworks. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:56, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::::We don't get the fireworks until every card has a page, hopefully before September 15th, with the release of POP Series 8. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:58, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::::::::I'll just hold on to them. And wait. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:02, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

==HELP==

[[Kimono Girl|Go here for an article desperately needing fixing]]--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 22:55, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

:Is it the picture alignment? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 23:12, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

== Yoshi? ==

Is your username from saturn(planet) and yoshi, the cute little dino from mario?

:Yes. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 04:31, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

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:Thanks! ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:31, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
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== Neat ==
Your sig is cool. Where'd you learn wiki coding? --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 01:36, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah your fast '''[[User:CoolPikachu!|♫Cool]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|Pikachu]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|!♫]]'''

::I used to edit frequently on Wikipedia, until the users became too elitist. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:42, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

:::Ohh I also came from there but was on it seldomly '''[[User:CoolPikachu!|♫Cool]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|Pikachu]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|!♫]]'''

== Newcomer? ==
You're new here, too? (Oh, and I got Darkrai at Toys 'R' Us. He disliked me when I first got him! Thanks for responding back.) {{ani|385}}[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 17:29, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Apparently, it looks as though you leave something whenever I leave something on the Talk pages... A stalker Darkrai hiding in the shadows, following me? Just kidding, I actually appreciate it since I just started out today. ^.^ [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 19:44, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

== Question ==

Are you willing to do more? I can't do them myself because my computer can't read Japanese, so I can't be sure with any characters I use. I want to know how you are doing it, are you just searching attacks that the Pokémon might have? because if you are, that won't work for very long. Many of the cards have weird attacks that aren't present in the games and I was just wondering if that was how you were doing it. If you don't want to do more...I understand. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:12, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:Well then, I have a long list so we might as well get started now. {{TCG ID|5th Movie Half Deck|Oakley's Ariados|1}}. I think it would be better if I just link you the picture instead of posting the picture on your talk page: [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Oakleyariados.jpg] ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:34, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

::I won't be able to do too much right now, but I will get cracking on this as soon as I have more time. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:37, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:::That is perfectly fine. Just post the attacks on my page when you finish them! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:45, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:Okay, the following might be tough with the Poké-Body in it but: [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Samiyachatot1.jpg] I do not expect you to translate it for me right now, I am dealing with the mess known as {{TCG|"PCG-P" Promotional cards}} (which this card is actually in). ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:24, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
::A new Samiya's Chatot!! [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Samiyachatot2.jpg] ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 15:53, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
::I'm not sure about the Continuous Scratch because the damage is only 20, Continuous Scratch is an attack that would have 20× instead of just 20. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:04, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Okay. I'll give it another go. It's amazing that you can get completely different results by being just one character off. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:31, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
:If you can't get it, we can move on because I put the translation notice on the page. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:40, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Can I ask you to do something different for me? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 15:29, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah, go ahead. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:54, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::I need the kanji from the name in the top left corner for each of the following:
<gallery>
Image:Normalmovie.jpg
</gallery>
Could you do that for me please? If you click on the image, it should be bigger on the Archives. (Sorry if it seems like a lot...) ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:21, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:Well I was kinda right, something with translation~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 16:22, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::YES!!! That is exactly what I need (as far as I can tell, remember, I can't read Japanese on my computer) If you can get them all, you just pulled me out the hole I was in!! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:36, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Yay! Knocked out three. Only seven left. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:40, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::Aaron and Tory have their Jap. names already, but they have additions (like last names) added onto them. They are up there because I don't know what belongs and what doesn't. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:10, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Seven down. Three more to do! ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 00:11, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

== Diamond and Pearl Poketch ==

Actually, check the game, it says that Poketch is short for Pokemon Tech. Of this I am certain as I have had this argument with a number of people and they all agree with me now. {{Unsigned|Admiralaew}}
:Quote from the father of the President on the second floor of the Pokétch Company: "Pokémon Watch! That's Pokétch for short." ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 22:56, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

::Actually, I did check the game. It says Pokémon Watch. Those that believe you when you tell them "Pokémon Tech" are {{p2|Mareep|sheep}}. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 23:17, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

:::I'm sorry, I concede. I realized what happened, basically I wasn't paying attention, stupid me, very very sorry. On a side note, I am curious as to how you create your signature. {{Unsigned|Admiralaew}}
::::For starters, sign your comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. For info on creating a custom sig, see the new {{bp|signature policy}}. It also contains rules on what you can and can't do with your sig, so read it carefully. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 23:44, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::That's basically the gist of it. Thank you, Martonimos. If you have a good grasp on wiki coding, you can create a sig that you like. It took a while for me to come up with this one, it's a altered version of my old Wikipedia signature. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:59, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

== Adminship ==

To be honest, I don't really feel like I deserve it. I'm kind of an ass on wikis. (And wasn't TTE kind of throwing power around to clean up the Capulet disaster quicker...?) Not to sound ungrateful. ;[--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 00:32, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

:I wasn't on during that fiasco, but out of all the people that were on you were one of the few that were selected. In my eyes, that counts for something. I don't think of you as being ungrateful, you're just unsure is all. Don't worry, everything will slip into place. Of this I am confident. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 03:15, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

== Cards ==

Finally, you are done, I can put you to work on something else{{tt|*|Don't worry, this next thing will be the last thing I need you to do for me for a while, I have a lot to do right now}}! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:33, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

:Okay. :D ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 03:34, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
::I need to know what the attacks off of the following are. And once again, Thank you so much!! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:39, 18 July 2008 (UTC) 
<Gallery>
Image:Ash'sTreeckocard.jpg
Image:May'sTorchiccard.jpg
Image:Brock'sMudkipcard.jpg
</gallery>
:Thank you...the attack Treecko has is most likely Tail Slap: a move that other Treecko have in the TCG. And there actually is a Water Arrow attack; so, you are correct for those. Thank you. I won't ask you to do anything for me for a while; I have about 6 sets to finish with the information that you've given me already. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:47, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

::You are welcome. Glad I could be of service. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 22:49, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

== ok? ==
ok bro i dun care if im off 1 day or 1 week i dont go on this website everyday... dont take it too hard im not cussing at u or anything im just saying that i have a life [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]

:I'm just saying that I don't care. Not to sound rude or anything. (Okay, maybe a little rude...) ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:56, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
::i ll show you rude if u want[[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]

:::Yeah, okay. I really have a lot better things to do than deal with children on the internet. Good day. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 22:56, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

== Congrats ==

Nice Job on getting ur missions accomplished, but u missed the Trozei! page itself--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 00:55, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:THUN THUN THUN!!!! ~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 00:57, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

::Got 'em. It's because I was looking for links. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 00:59, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:::hmm...~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 01:00, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

== Welcoming ==

Most of those were vandals and we don't welcome vandals. No biggie though, just remember for next time.''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:48, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

:Sorry, sometimes I get a little too carried away with my copy-and-pasting. Like I stated before, I wasn't on when that whole vandal war went down. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:12, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

== A favour to ask of you ==

Still in awe at the amount of work that has gone into the Japanese cards, I now have a bit of time to start mucking in again. You seem to be Orange's choice for help with these, and I'm in the same situation as him computer-wise, so could you help me with a card too?
This is the only one I can't find a source for, I was wondering if you could get the translation for the name and text of the second attack. I know the first attack is "Peck" and the second is "Metal"-something. I can't quite make out some characters in the text. Thanks! [[User:Nuva-kal|Nuva-kal]] 20:30, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Can you also do this as well as the kirlia...I need the kanji and translation off of this and the attack if possible. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:17, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
:Thank you! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 01:53, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
::Glad I could help. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:58, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Actually, I think the attack is "Light of Revival". Since it is an irregular attack, could you possibly translate the text? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:55, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Just trying to organize thing a bit. I need the title Kanji and the translations for the following three cards, and if you could do the effect for Celebi's Light of Revival attack, it would be appreciated but it is not necessary. Thank you. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:27, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:Actually, we finished all of those and moved on, sorry. (Or your welcome, because you no longer have to do them)
''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:05, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

== Golden Oldies ==

Sorry to bother you again, but these card articles I want to create are so old and rare, they don't have entries in the card database, and I don't have the kanji for them to translate. So I was wondering if you could get the kanji for the title and body text for the cards listed?

Secret Super Battle No. 1 [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:SecretSuperBattleNo1.jpg]

Tropical Mega Battle No. 1 [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:TropicalMegaBattleNo1.jpg]

No. 1 Trainer (2000/2001) [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:No1Trainer00.jpg]

Victory Ring [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:VictoryRingTrainer.jpg]

Victory Orb [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:VictoryOrbTrainer.jpg]

Victory Orb (Mew) [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:VictoryMewTrainer.jpg]

I know this is a rather large request, but finding out what these cards do will be a real treat for some collectors out there (me included!) Thanks. '''[[Surf (move)|~~]]''''''[[User:nuva-kal|nuva]]''''''-'''[[User_talk:nuva-kal|'''kal''']] 20:24, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

== Can you ==

translate Romanji into English? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 04:31, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:What do you have? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:08, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::Madowazu ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:32, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::Where was that taken from? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:34, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::::A game-exclusive Dark Ninetales card from the Japanese only sequal to Pokémon GB for the Gameboy Color. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:36, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::::It appears to mean "puzzlement", according to Babel Fish. I had to convert the word into Hiragana to see. I guess because it's from a game they opted not to use Kanji because it would be hard to read. Especially on a hand-held screen. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:53, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::Thank you, this means that the oldest card we don't have a page for will now get a page. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:55, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::::::I'll go get the fireworks. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:56, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::::We don't get the fireworks until every card has a page, hopefully before September 15th, with the release of POP Series 8. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:58, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::::::::I'll just hold on to them. And wait. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:02, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

==HELP==

[[Kimono Girl|Go here for an article desperately needing fixing]]--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 22:55, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

:Is it the picture alignment? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 23:12, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Shaymin (Pokémon)/Archive 2

2008-09-12T18:37:31Z

$aturn¥oshi: /* Shiny Sky Forme */ new section

== Previous discussions ==
* [[Talk:Shaymin (Pokémon)/Archive 1|Archive]]

== Sky Form Image? ==
Posted by 2/4chan apparantly. --[[User:Jennyrogue|JennyRogue]]
:...ew. It's pretty much just skinnier with longer limbs. Like when you hack Pikachu in Brawl to have Ganondorf's moves.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 01:08, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
::I can't see the image because i'm at school but i saw a picture of it before i left home this morning (I think there the same picture so yeah), too be honest, i actually like it (: Sky form = Cool. Normal form = Cute. Well, the sky form looks sorta bad-ass too me actually (: [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 07:44, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Congratulations! Your Shaymin evolved into some Eevee thingy. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:31, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
::::xD [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 09:11, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
::::: It looks.......... Ok..... *Shoots Ken Sugimori*, But it's not that bad. --[[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 09:30, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:WHAT? Just as I was going against this 'Sky Form'...Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''09:44 23 May 2008'''''
::::::Its not to bad. Leafeon with more leaves and a flower and more white. yea not bad although I want to see what the sprite will be.--lord mada 15:26, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Looks Lisa-Frank like. Or like some Mary-Sue's pet. Ugh. I don't think I like this form one bit. :| [[User:Tina|Tina]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|☆]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 16:23, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::::I think it's beautiful. you all probably didn't like it cause it changed from cute to mature and older-looking'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[Special:Random|102]]''' 17:40, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Of course, since I'm the stereotypical girl who only likes "ZOMG ADORABLE! ^____________^;" things and always makes her fanfiction characters start out with Eevee and Shaymin. Yeah, kill me for having my opinion. :| [[User:Tina|Tina]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|☆]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 18:24, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::I'm not a big judger IN A NEGATIVE WAY like SOME PEOPLE  :)'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[Special:Random|102]]''' 18:58, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::I think it's still cute.^__^ '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 19:13, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::oo a girl that's different, that's cool :D'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[Special:Random|102]]''' 19:14, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::::It looks like a goat with wings.......[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|C is for Cookie]] 19:16, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::::How can you saw that???!!! It's adorable!!!!! '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 19:30, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

i wish i had a flying goat...{{u|Garrison12795}}

Wow It looks Like Shaymin Bred With Leafeon. I dont get it hows it Sky Form/e. I doesnt look like it can fly, but who knows because {{p|Ekans}} Can swim!!!''[[User:David aipom|David]]
''Aipom

:Well duh snakes can swim. It has wings, but not exactly the aerodymanics to fly'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[Special:Random|102]]''' 20:22, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

They look like leafs and i didnt expect all snakes to swim.''[[User:David aipom|David]]
''Aipom

:What do you think the wings are supposed to look like for a pure grass-type? and yes all snakes can swim'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[Special:Random|102]]''' 20:31, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
::It's pretty obvious that this Shaymin is not pure Grass-type. It's Grass/Flying much like {{p|Tropius}} but Tropius' wings DO look like wings. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 21:05, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Hey, flyon and giratina have wings and are not of the flying type. If Shaymin does change forme, this will be the first time a Pokémon's type would be changed (excluding Arceus, but the whole point of Arceus's different formes is to have different types)'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[Special:Random|102]]''' 21:15, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
::::*You forgot that {{p|Castform}} also changes its form and it's type.
::::*{{p|Flygon}} has Levitate because it can't have 3 types (Dragon/Ground/Flying).
::::*We don't know if the Origin Forme will have a different ability.

::::With that in mind it's still possible that Shaymin will be part Flying type, as it's name is "Sky Form(e)". If it ain't Flying type, then it will have Levitate as ability. If not, the name won't be justifying why is it different than the Shaymin we all know. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 21:49, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::You know, it's Sky Forme, not Flying Forme. Just because the sky is up in the air doesn't mean it has anything to do with flying-types. Flygon has wings, and can fly, and it's a part ground type. The type can be completely unpredictable'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[Special:Random|102]]''' 21:53, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::I'm just saying that Giratina has wings, not flying type. Flygon too, and it's a ground type, yet it has wings. Castform change is forme is basically because of for the type-change, similar to Arceus'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[Special:Random|102]]''' 21:55, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::No Pokémon that live in the sky is not part Flying or has levitate as Ability. I know you think of Giratina, but he lives in the reverse world where there's no sky nor ground. I think it's better to wait what does Platinum tell us (or at least the Giratina's movie). '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 22:00, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I wasn't thinking of Giratina, I'm thinking of Flygon. LOOK, I just think that Shaymin won't change type. Therefore I think it will have Levitate. HEY I HAVE NEVER PLAYED A MAIN SERIES POKéMON GAME IN MY LIFE'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[Special:Random|102]]''' 22:08, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
I don't see why you try to make me feel stupid, I've never told ya it won't have levitate. I already said that ALL Pokémon, excluding Giratina, '''that can fly''' are part Flying-type '''''OR''''' have Levitate as ability.
I get your point that Flygon is Ground/Dragon and has wings, but it still flies and has Levitate. I know that maybe Shaymin will have Levitate and I already said that. And finally, if I'm a new user here that doesn't mean that I'm stupid or I know nothing. I did not offend you so you don't offend me, right? '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 22:20, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Look @ the tail! It could be used as a propeller!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 22:14, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:You do all realize that this is fake, right? [http://lexyeevee.livejournal.com/289857.html] --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:24, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

We hadn't seen the news so NO! But who is covering this over @ Bulbanews?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 01:47, 24 May 2008
(UTC)

::You guys do realize giratina can learn fly? [[User:Atomix26|Atomix26]] 14:51, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

::: also go to [http://www.ani.tv/pokemon/] I saw the website in an ad for the 11 movie! [[User:Atomix26|Atomix26]] 16:18, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

:::: also [http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/] and [http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/skyforme/index.html] [[User:Atomix26|Atomix26]] 16:31, 19 June 2008 (UTC) I consider to have proved the sky form and I want kudos!

==== ???? ====
UHM...Am i the only person who sees something a bit WRONG with that image? 0___0 Cos its coming up as porn on my computer... Not that i don't mind porn but still...wtf? [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 10:42, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
:Hmm, wait, let me see. Could be a virus. Does anything else turn up as porn? {{ani|493}} click on the image that appears when you click the Arceus. Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''10:58 25 May 2008'''''
::Nothing else is coming up as porn :\ Or coming up as anything it isn't/shouldn't be |: [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 11:01, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Damn. I'm scarred for life. Someone tell me why I keep running into porn on Bulbapedia? Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''11:03 25 May 2008'''''

:I checked the history and even tried to cut'n'paste on the link...the pic is ''not'' coming up as porn for me. Maybe someone switched it back? [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 12:00, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

=== PK Does It Again ===

Its Fake. Read This:http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml ''[[User:David aipom|David]]
{{p|aipom|''Aipom
}}[[User talk:David aipom|♫]]
:that just says that particular image is fake, and a sky form(e) could still be in existance (or beta) '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|Mudkipz]]''' 10:38, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah I no, I hope its real and that it looks like this picture because i love its tail. ''[[User:David aipom|David]]
{{p|aipom|''Aipom
}}[[User talk:David aipom|♫]]

OMG David aipom are you that dumb. PK made it it is fake. It is not real. [[User:Crystallucario|~'''Crystal''']][[User talk:Crystallucario|~'''Lucario~''']]

I NO ITS FAKE. I meant the Sky Forme. I just hope it looks like that! ''[[User:David aipom|David]]
{{p|aipom|''Aipom
}}[[User talk:David aipom|♫]]
:You spelled '''know''' wrong. And I hope that it looks like a ''slightly'' altered version of that above'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[Special:Random|102]]''' 13:12, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
::I don't like having a fool made out of me we have all been had--lord mada 16:07, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Heh. PK's fakes are annoyingly good. Hope the real Sky Form(e) looks that good. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 16:19, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
:Agreed. And the dude responsible congratulated Bulbanews on not jumping on this story... doesn't that make you guys feel warm and fuzzy? --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 19:32, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
::I think this is funny LOL xD '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 22:13, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
:::I knew it. (A 'flying' Regigigas form was also reported. I BET it's fake!) I mean, hedgehogs can't change shape, right? Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''08:03 25 May 2008'''''
::::Nope. Of course, neither can ghost-dragons. [[Giratina (Pokémon)|OH, WAIT]]. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 09:53, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
:Dragons were based on Serpents. Origine Forme lookse like ae serpente. Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''10:02 25 May 2008'''''

== shaymin's alternate form?? ==

well hello i'm new but i found this link that someone made an alternate form of shaymin to fool people [http://purplekecleon.deviantart.com/art/Shaymin-Sky-Forme-86526449 so take a look at this]

plus [http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml some news from serebii]
& [http://serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=322086&page=12 from the forums in serebii]

however this shaymin sky forme thing could be a massive hoax as serebii said so if you know it, you might as well [http://lexyeevee.livejournal.com/289857.html a look at this also] [[User:Harith.DS|Harith.DS]] 10:14, 25 May 2008 (UTC)Harith.DS
:Debated above. It already has been considered fake. Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''10:19 25 May 2008'''''

:The picture was a fake, but the fact that a sky form exists is true. [[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 12:05, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
::Is ''likely'' to be true'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[Special:Random|102]]''' 13:12, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
:::I don't see why you love to assume, Shiny Noctowl. For now, as no OFFICIAL evidence is provided, we have to consider it fake. Although the Flying Regigigas idea was terrible too. It's Da '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''05:49 26 May 2008''''' 05:49, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

It's nice that Shaymin has a Sky Form, though I fear what Regigigas may look like in its alternate form... [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 23:06, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

== Another possible form for Shaymin ==

http://www.serebii.net/shayminsky2.jpg

this is an image of what look like some kind of Shaymin form. it was originally a small image so it is pixelated it looks like it has marijuana on its head? found on http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml --lord mada 15:04, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Is that really Shaymin's alternate form? O_o [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 15:31, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:: We don't know yet but it looks abit like an Eevee evolution crossed with a Snover.[[User:David aipom|Davidaipom]] 15:33, 6 June 2008 (UTC)♂

Chances are that I'm jumping to conclusions, but could that be a Fifth Gen? (Because it looks nothing like Shaymin unless there's a better picture of that Pokémon, and if it has green eyes, THEN it's Shaymin.) [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 15:38, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

::It doesn't look like a Shymin to me...--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 15:42, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:::looks angry, whatever he, she, or it is. '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|Mudkipz]]''' 15:45, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I repeat the question: Could that be a new Pokémon? [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 15:47, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:It possibly is. It looks NOTHING like any Shaymin.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 15:48, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

::Not "nothing". --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 17:34, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

And now, question two: if that ''really'' is a new Pokémon, does it mean Game Freak still has a few ideas up its sleeve? [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 16:14, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:Oh! Not just a few. They have a lot! They still have many, many game version titles in their trademark!--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 16:20, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Is it possible they'll reach 1000? [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 16:22, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
:This is NOT a New Pokémon! They have not even revealed the entire Generation IV, what would make them to start the fifth Generation? There's not even a scheduled successor for the DS. Like it or not, IT'S SHAYMIN. - [[User:D-Wheel|D-Wheel]] 16:25, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
::The Pokemon company is more than likely to keep on going. They are getting so much money, why would they stop? Am I right?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 16:28, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

-__- I'm not going to go there... Let's hope an administrator comes by and see what he (or she) says about this. [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 16:32, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
::Just because they are admins, that doesn't mean they'll know what it is...THey'll just give their own opinion which is no different than our's.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 16:36, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

In that case, we're sitting Psyduck... -__- [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 16:40, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:At the unpredicatability rate we're going, that "thing" (if real) will probably be on [[Brock]]'s team by the [[Giratina and the Sky's Bouquet: Shaymin|11th movie]]. Granted, odds are better for the current teams of all of the main characters save {{TP|Ash|Pikachu}} and {{MTR}} having reached their final evolutionary forms by that point in time than that mystery creature ending up on Brock's team...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:45, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:That still doesn't explain what it is.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 16:53, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I doubt it's Shaymin somewhat, since Shaymin's head is connected to it's body without a neck to seperate. [[User:Gywall|Gywall]] 16:55, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:I agree, but if it is a Shaymin, it is a different form of it, which would explain why it has a neck. And is that a rose on its back?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 16:58, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I think you might be on to something. If only they had a better picture! [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 17:07, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:DOes anyone have a program where they can blow up the picture without losing any resolution?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 17:10, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
:I was Zooming into the picture and pixelating the picture as I went to take a closer look. Now I KNOW 90% that it is NOT a Shaymin! It has Yellow years and two huge antlers. Could it be the pre-evolutional form of Stantler?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 17:28, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

WHAAAAAAAAAAT?! A new Pokémon?! [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 17:32, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:And the thing that looks like a rose appears to be its TAIL. IT HAS CHRISTMAS COLORS!!!It all makes sense!--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 17:35, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

By the way, Platinum is coming out this fall in Japan. (The successor to Diamond and Pearl.)[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 17:37, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah, not surprising. I knew about it even before CoroCoro released it. THis Pokemon MUST be a Gen V!--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 17:39, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

::''Platinum'' is not Gen V. Besides, it looks like Leafeon with a way wrong color scheme. It's clear another artist drew those Pokémon. Pikacku even looks off... ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:06, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Mother of Palkia! I can't believe this! [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 17:59, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:We know Platinum is not Gen V. BlueJirachi was just mentioning it...And BlueJirachi, You gotta believe it, cause this is reality!--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 18:12, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

''(Jaw hangs open)'' This is just like Munchlax in [[Destiny Deoxys]]! [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 18:15, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
:Since this isn't Shaymin, we're moving this Pokemon's talk page to mine.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 18:19, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

And here's this sticker that was found.
http://blog-imgs-19.fc2.com/r/a/i/raim2005/img080607.jpg
This is looking a lot more legit than the other disaster. Toastypk 07:50, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:And no, it is not the Munchlax. Please, people. Deoxys was known far and wide in that exact movie. Arceus? He's too busy killing whatever you idiots made up. For the last time, IT IS NOT REAL SO STOP BITCHING ABOUT THIS 'CUP'. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''08:03 7 Jun 2008'''''

http://www.serebii.net/shayminsky3.jpg

more yet evidence.however unconfirmed source for this image of Shaymin found on http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml --lord mada 11:32, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

The CUP is not fake, but I think this sticker is. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 15:24, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

http://www.serebii.net/shayminsky4.jpg
http://pokemon-safari.com/sitio/noticias/data/upimages/reconstruccion.png

OK we can't deny it now. The first image was posted On a Japanese Blog blue skY obtained images of some badges set for release at the end of the month to promote the 11th movie. The second image is a reconstruction done by PoKeSaFaRi who I'm sure we all thank very much. --lord mada 09:30, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

*frowns* Why does it have wings on only one side? [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 11:42, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:I'm sure will see when the film is released and we see it in flight --lord mada 11:54, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
::So can we finally add this to Shaymin's page? I'd do it myself, but of course the article is locked preventing info from being added to it, except by a few people. Also someone on deviantart made a really neat sky form sprite, I'm going to see what he thinks of bulbapedia using it. Toastypk 17:59, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

well it was confirmed on serebii that this is a confirmed sky forme of shaymin and it is grass/flying

== Sky Forme is a fake ==

Not sure if any of you guys have seen this page, but it was all a hoax. Sky Forme and all.

[http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Shaymin Hoax History] NSFW. Well, one image is, but the rest of the site you might not enjoy.

Good news is that that might be a new Poke'mon on the cup.
:That version of the Sky Forme is fake, yes, but as far as the cup goes, no, I don't think it's some Gen V Pokémon. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::New Generation=New console. We don't even have a new console (DS LITE IS NOT COUNTED. IT FUNCTIONS EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE ORIGNAL DS) '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''07:58 7 Jun 2008'''''

:::The unknown Pokémon shown on the cup is Sky Forme Shaymin. The cup image was posted on an official web site and subsequently removed. There is a trademark registered for both "Sky Forme" and "Land Forme", and as of now, the original Shaymin is officially known as Land Forme. Sky Forme's announcement is imminent, but due to an error, we've already seen a glimpse of it on said cup.

:::The latest image is most likely real, as well. If nothing more, it gives us a better idea of what Sky Forme looks like in the previous image. Anyone who thinks this is a new Pokémon is fooling themselves. [[User talk:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 08:54, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::So there is a Sky Forme...Hmm, I never thought it was an official site. Is it? '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''09:02 7 Jun 2008'''''
:::::It is. [http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/1484/skyformehe6.png Here] is a screenshot of the page that was available to be viewed yesterday, only to be brought down since then. [[User:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 09:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::Thank you for sharing your wisdom with me. Now...put it on Shaymin's page? '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''09:19 7 Jun 2008'''''
:::::::I have added a trivia paragraph explaining the meaning of "Land Forme" and "Sky Forme". The images should be dealt by Bulbanews for the time being. [[User talk:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 10:54, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::: You may wish to reword that paragraph. It reads like speculation. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 12:52, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::::: I don't see how it does. The facts are stated without confusing the present with the future. --[[User talk:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 07:13, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::: Have another look at the 'it seems evident' bit. It just screams 'this is an opinion'. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 11:40, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

It has green eyes. Shaymin has green eyes. [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 13:43, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::I see you gave in --lord mada 14:15, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I didn't mean that. I just pointed it out. But is that really a rose on its back, because now I'm all screwed up. [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 14:18, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:I meant [[User talk:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] gave in not you. I'm not really sure if it is a rose or wings or whatever it is but we will see one the film comes out won't we. --lord mada 14:43, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh. If it is wings, then those are the oddest-looking wings I've ever seen.[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 14:45, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:{{p|tropius}} --lord mada 15:40, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Then wouldn't that make Shaymin a Grass-Flying Pokémon? [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 15:44, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:No what I'm saying is tropius' wings are odd-looking too --lord mada 15:46, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:It might, but that'd be very unusual. It might be Grass-type with Levitate ability, which would be more reasonable. [[User:Gywall|Gywall]] 15:46, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
I think it will just be a grass type with a different forme, same ability and a slightly different move set and the forme will return to land forme when traded with d/p but if they change the ability it could cause problems for D/P but changing the move set wont be a problem for the previous games to handle --lord mada 15:54, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
::Have you had Deoxys battles in Gen III? They're totally safe despite Deoxys has totally different base stats in every game (only the sprites are a bit annoying). I think this won't be the exception. How do you know? Maybe the game engine has been developed to ensure compatibility even if the same Pokémon has a different ability in another version of the game (or even different type combination). '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 22:13, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

If there was a sprite for sky forme in D/P we would know. Like we know about {{p|Arceus}}' ??? forme it would be in D/P game data in the game data. OK I think I'm possibly wrong about the ability --lord mada 22:43, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:Have you ever considered it is just like Deoxys? There are different forms depending on which version the Pokémon is in. Giritina will probably go through this. As will the "supposed" Sky Forme of Shaymin.[[User:GJPal|GJ]] 23:08, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I've considered it now and I agree --lord mada 23:09, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

== So can we finally unlock this? ==

There is so much confirmed information I (and I'm sure others) want to add, but the article is locked. This isn't a rumor anymore.

-Pictures of Sky form (scan, sprite) 
-Height and Weight

Among other bits of info. Toastypk 17:15, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
:Also Sugimori art and anime art. tc26 23:28, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Shaymin Sky Form: [[Image:ShayminSky.png]]

:Do you have a cleaned-up version of Sky Form Shaymin's sprite? --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 17:53, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

:We probably won't have that until someone gets their hands on the game. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 21:46, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
::We have Giratina's Platinum sprite, and it was also just extracted from a CoroCoro page. --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 23:51, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
:I have a cleaned up sprite. [[User:GanLnkZld|- GanLnkZld]] 7:42, 17 June 2008(UTC)
::upload it then call it "Spr 4p 492.png" --lord mada 14:56, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
:::I did that, but it didn't show up on the Shaymin page. And you can't edit anything on that page which totally sucks. Also, I'm pretty new here; is there an administrator that can help put it up? [[User:GanLnkZld|- GanLnkZld]] 16:23, 17 June 2008(UTC)
::::Nothing you can edit on this page can solve that problem. Check the page again tomorrow. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 16:39, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Now wait, is it the real sprite or is it a custom sprite? I just saw what you uploaded to the archives. That is a terrible quality and it is unacceptable. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 16:58, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:Sheimi battle Platinum.png|right|source of sprite]]
:It may not be a brilliant extract from the image we have but it is real and we aren't getting the sprite properly until the game comes out. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 17:35, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
::Then we shouldn't have it at all. Period. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 17:43, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
:::We need it, it's just temporary for now and once the game comes out we'll get its crisp, beautifully-rendered form, but until then this crappy screenshot which isn't full size is all we're gonna get. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:47, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
::::I agree. it's nicer looking than a broken link anyway --lord mada 17:54, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Is this the picture you saw, because I uploaded two. One of them was very crappy. This is the better one. [[User:GanLnkZld|- GanLnkZld]] 19:34, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[[Image:Shaymin_Sky_Sprite_2.png]]
:I don't get it. Why is Archives being an ass as far as interwiki image updates go? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:04, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
So I ask again. Can we finally unlock this? Toastypk 19:56, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

== OH NO! ==

hey! remove that sprite of Shaiymin please!! it looks soooo crapy... a sprite should be in good quality to be uploaded, like Giratina's. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 02:45, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
:I have to agree...I'm sure we can wait for a screenshot of correct resolution instead of improvising that...thing.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 04:41, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
::Sorry. I'm the one that uploaded that piece of crap. For some reason, every time I upload a new version of that image it always changes back to the first version for a day or two, then it changes to the new one. Maybe it's because the article is protected. Anyways, it should fix itself pretty soon. This is what it should look like: [[Image:Shaymin_Sky_Form_Image.png‎]][[User:GanLnkZld|GanLnkZld]] 18:26, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

1 question, do we need the event for shaymin in Pokémon Platinum?
--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 10:04, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
:I question: Could one get Jirachi or Deoxys in Emerald without the event? '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''10:59 5 Jul 2008'''''

== Glacidia's Flower ==

Look at [http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml this]! Looks like Land Forme isn't exclusive to Diamond and Pearl anymore! Blazevoir 21:40, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
:I know but it's not that confirmed.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 21:55, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
I trust that site and would like it to be true, but yeah CoolPikachu is right. I think it is though.-Rabla

== Height and Weight ==

Although I can't read Japanese at all, I am guessing by [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/platinum/hotnews/01.html this trusted site] that Sky Forme weighs 5.2 kg and is 0.4 m tall. Someone should probably update the page. Also under the gold arrow I think it has some information about trading Shaymin to Platinum from Diamond and Pearl. I am just guessing this by the box art. -- [[User:23-03-33]] 04:20, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
:Updated. No idea what's up with the trading. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:58, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

== Art in the infobox ==

I know with Deoxys we do the "standard forme" thing... but we have Wormadam with all three of her coats, same with Burmy, and Shellos and Gastrodon in both West and East Sea variations. I know that's how the Sugimori art came, but why the heck not combine the images into one, then put it in the infobox? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:42, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
:Hm? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:09, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

We'll see--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 21:14, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
:Anyone got a better answer? Like, an opinion? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:17, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
::I think it's better to have all forms on the infobox. Well, at least for every Pokémon with multiple forms excepting Arceus (because 17 forms is excesive LOL). '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 23:47, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
:::If you're able to combine the artworks... - [[User:Taylor|Taylor]] 23:48, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Yes, I'll do it... but I'm not at home now xD '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 23:57, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

==Base stats?==
Do we know ANY of Shaymin sky forme's base stats yet? And can we list it's base HP the same as shaymins? Because in those pictures depicting the glacedia's flower, youcan see that the level 50 shaymin's HP stayed the same upon changing formes. [[User:SLE_aman|SLE_aman]]
:Best thing to do is wait. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:05, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

== Cry ==

Okay, the game's not out yet, and while the "tweet tweet tweet" would sound odd coming from Mr. Badass over here... do we have ''proof'' that it'll change? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:40, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
:Believe me. I think it will sound weird too, but I first thought Deoxys' cry was more aggressive before I heard it, but it was not changed anyways. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 05:37, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

== Sprites ==
In the platinum sprites, it shows shaymin's sky forme, shouldn't it also show shaymin's platinum land forme? We have bidoof's platinum sprite, so why not shaymin? (BTW, I mentioned bidoof because they appear in the same screenshot) [[User:SLE_aman|SLE_aman]]
:Well... actually I was thinking we should ''really'' be waiting for the Pt-animated sprites. They're supposed to be better than DP's, and the third version always gets .gifs anyway. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:19, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
::But, for this we may need the sky back sprite too. [[User:Strong Intelligent|Strong Intelligent]]
:::Also, who got the idea for shaymin's sky forme's shiny forme? I don't think that should be there, who's to say that the flower pedal, wing things won't be changed in color? [[User:SLE_aman|SLE_aman]]

== According to the movie site ==

[http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/shayminpresents/p_sky.html On this page], it states that Shaymin only stays in Sky Forme during the day and when it is not [[Frozen]]. Should this be added? --[[User:Kohei|Pizza]][[User talk:Kohei|man]] 23:35, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

I believe it already is--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 23:47, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

:It is stated on the Platinum page, but not here. --[[User:Kohei|Pizza]][[User talk:Kohei|man]] 23:49, 11 August 2008 (UTC)--[[User:Kohei|Pizza]][[User talk:Kohei|man]] 23:49, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

== Tiny Land forme Platinum sprite! ==

Since (probably) no one has done it yet, I have gone ahead and made a clean-up of the Platinum sprite of Shaymin's Land Forme:

[[Image:tiny_sheimi_platinum_sprite.PNG]]

I AM AWARE that it's small and the quality is bad. The reason why is because I took this from a screenshot of a Bidoof and Shaymin being traded (best deal ever). The screenshot wasn't fullsize but it's better than nothing. I guess we could do with this sprite for now until we get a better quality, fullsize screenshot with Landmin in it... [[User:Pocchama|Pocchama]] 02:51, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
::I thought of actually creating a full-sized one, but it's not worth it becuase we'll have to trash it anyways when the Platinum sprites come out...just be patience, Bulbapedia is an encyclopedia, not a fortune teller.--[[User:Tavisource|☆Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 03:13, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Don't worry, I have an actual size bad quality sprite of the Land Forme and I almost finished restoring it. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 16:06, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

== What? ==

"*The way Sky Forme Shaymin fly in a group, their reindeer-like appearance, and the way they prance in the air may be similar to that of Santa's reindeer. This would be slightly ironic, seeing as it has a double weakness to [[Ice (type)|Ice]]." --from the trivia

When have more than one Shaymin ever been seen together? And who forgot to use {{template|t}}? --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 23:49, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
:Second question answered. But seriously, Shaymin is a legendary. I doubt that there'd be more than one of them in the same shot ever; that's only happened once with Lugia in the anime, as far as I know. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 23:51, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
See [http://www.pokebeach.com/news/0708/11th-movie-shaymin-giratina-ending-clip.html this] Movie 11 clip. There are several other Shaymin there. [[User:Pocchama|Pocchama]] 02:58, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

== Official Land Forme sprite ==

All right, this is the real one:
[[Image:Spr 4p 492.PNG]]

I'll add the transparent background when I get Paint Shop Pro 8 installed onto this computer. This would originally show up on Shaymin's page, but the site is a bit picky on whether the file extension is capitalized or not... and I couldn't get the extension for this uncapitalized. >n< [[User:Pocchama|Pocchama]] 03:10, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

== Shiny Sky Forme ==

Is that even possible? Considering that only the givaway Shaymin can transform. Do Pokémon given away by Nintendo/Game Freak have the potential to be shiny? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:37, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Pokémon Platinum Version/Archive 1

2008-09-12T18:29:06Z

$aturn¥oshi: /* Origin form */

==November 2007: Beckett rumour==
Here's my source: [http://www.pokebeach.com/#28197]. [[Image:164sMS.png]][[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny]][[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|?]][[Special:Contributions/Shiny Noctowl|!]] 21:50, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

:''but right now we can consider it a "rumor" until Nintendo or another source reveals new information''. That's what your source says about this. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 21:56, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
::I'm really wary of this. If there is a so-called Platinum, it wouldn't be a GS remake; did the RB remake come as one game? No, it was two. It wouldn't make sense, either, as DPv3, due to its name. I also tried to visit [www.pokemonplatinum.com Pokemonplatinum.com], no site. [www.pokemonamethyst.com Pokemonamethyst.com], however... that redirects to Nintendo...

::Best possible course of action: someone contacts Beckett and asks where the hell they got the information. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 01:08, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

:::That's wierd that it redirects to Nintendo site! --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|2]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 15:23, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

::::It's not unusual. Nintendo often reserve possible game names, many of which are not used. If they haven't done so for Platinum, that would be more telling. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 15:34, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

:::Sounds like a job for {{wp|Gamespot}}'s Rumor Control...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 02:48, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

::::Interesting.......But a new Ranger DS! That's cool! But that is good proof for Platinum Version....--[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|2]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 15:21, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

:::::Deleted for now: While a third game to DP is inevitable, "Platinum" is still only in rumour territory right now. As WPM pointed out, Beckett aren't that reliable for new game news. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 15:28, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

::::::Besides, if we were to keep this page, we'd also need a Ranger 2 page based on the same reports. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:30, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

This game is confirmed. http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/platinum/ the name makes sense. in japan the kanji says "Platina" ans who does that remind us of? Gir'''atina''' [[User:Arutoa|Arutoa]] 13:04, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Hey guys! I was just emailing nintendo about the GTS clogging up with impossible requests, and descided to confim this. This was their reply.

[http://www.plunder.com/Bulbapedia-Email-Upload-download-145172.htm CLICKY!!]

I put extra line breaks to make it fit.
[[User:Yugiohguy1|Yugiohguy1]] 18:17, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
:He talks like they're not going to localize it, but yeah, they are. Unless NOA hates money, or something.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 19:21, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

==May 2008: Corocoro announcement==

*Corocoro Comic's image [[http://www.filb.de/kaihou/content/20080511_corocoro-foto.jpg]] {{Unsigned|FPU}}

:*sighs* The scan looks...Real. Very real. But it still could be fake |: I think everyone should just WAIT until CoroCoro is released, then make new articles + add new info. [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]] 14:59, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

== Version? ==

Should this be titled "Pokémon Platinum Version," like all the rest? --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 20:38, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
:I hit that when I edited the Template:Main series. But the Pokémon Platinum Version was protected from being created by TTE•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 20:39, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Delete this, this is Speculation, can somone put the Delete Tag, I want OFFICAL Proof, a Corocoro scan isn't Offical proof.--[[User:Quick Man|Quick Man]] 20:51, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
:You're acting just like TTE. But he would blow his head off. We have scans of the whole magazine. but I want official proof too•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 20:58, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
::The new Famitsu magazine came out as well with a Pokemon Platinum article. Same information. And now don't tell me someone is crazy enough to create fake scans for each magazine. [http://wiieveryday.blogspot.com/2008/05/famitsu-20080516.html] [[User:Goldchaos|Goldchaos]] 21:24, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
:::There's someone crazy enough to create fake scans for each magazine. There, I told you•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 21:47, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
::::I have finally found someone with the same sense of humour as myself! '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]''' 18:13, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
I have to agree; until there is actual confirmation of anything from official sources, there shouldn't be a full page, perhaps just a discussion page, but no article. I've also seen this called Opal version, and there was a shiny photoshoped image to go with that one too! Remove this until there is proof, now. [[User:TheCakeIsALie|NonaSuomi]] 00:40, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
:Yea but that was merely a photoshopped image. But this was complex frames from two unrelated magazines. TTEchidna also said that since it is on Famitsu, that it's likely official•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 00:49, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
'''[http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/platinum/02.html ''Now'' it's official]''' >_> --[[User:Mycroft|Mycroft]] 12:27, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

== Irony ==

This page was up for deletion 2 weeks ago now we all can't wait for more info to be added to it --lord mada 15:13, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
:Two weeks ago it wasn't confirmed. Now it's official. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:19, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

== Origin form ==

so its got giratina in 'origin' and 'another' forms, but only 'another' appeared in d/p. i guess this means that platinum will have to send a data patch when trading an origin form from platinum to d/p. right? '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]''' 15:24, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

:Probably. I mean, i'm pretty sure the "Origin" form sprite isn't programmed into D/P. So yeah... :\ [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 15:39, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

::i guess this means a new version of pokesav will be in order, to comply with the differing forms of giratina. '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]''' 15:46, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Or just pull off a Deoxys and just revert back when it gets traded to DP. [[User:Tina|Tina]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|☆]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 15:50, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

::::that would annoy people though wouldnt it? i mean the deoxys sprites were all coded in, and trades have been used to transfer data patches before, how hard can it be to add 2 sprites, the relevant animation data and modify the pokedex to accommodate a new form? '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]'''
:::::Wait, what trade has transfered data patches before? I'm curious. [[User:Tina|Tina]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|☆]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 15:56, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::Deoxys ([[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 16:06, 15 May 2008 (UTC))

::::::The [[Berry Glitch]] was a data-patch trade, so to speak. I seemed to remember that in gen 3 there was a patch that was transferred by trading, i may have made a mistake. But surely when D/P connects to Platinum, Platinum will detect the following:
::::::* whether its connected to D/P or PL (platinum shortening)
::::::* if its D/P, whether said D/P has the patch or not
::::::and then send or not send the patch accordingly. '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]''' 16:15, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

If You can get Origin form in D/P you might be able to get it over wifi whenthis game is released. [[User:Darkmaster0]]

:Hey everyone, ain't it obvious? Giratina will ONLY be available as Origine Form in Platinum and when traded back to D/P its stats will be recalculated and its sprite will change to Another Form, much like Deoxys in [[Generation III|previous games]]. Also there ARE patches transfered through trades, or have you forgotten already? what about the national dex in R/S? it is unobtainble until you trade with FR/LG or Emerald that has it already. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 19:37, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
::yes. but only fire red or leaf green, not emerald [[User:Pikachu25|Pikachu25]] 17:22, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
No, Emerald too. But I ''think'' it has to be a non-Hoenn 'Dex Pokemon.--[[User:Goukazaru|Nostalgia]] 14:35, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:::nopes, after you get the national dex in emerald, any trade you do with R/S will give you the national dex in that game. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 23:34, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

No ,your forgeting that Giratina only changes into origin forme when its in the [[Torn World]] and since theres no Torn World in DP Giratina will only be in another forme.
From [[user:ultamatecharizard]].

:The new Platinum Orb can keep it in Origin Forme outside the Torn World. Connecting the game to WiFi or to D/P, etc. disables the Orb and reverts Giratina back to its Another Forme. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:29, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

== and another thing ==

[http://news.softpedia.com/news/Pokemon-Platinum-Revealed-85314.shtml (link)] - should this be mentioned?
it says that regigigas and shaymin get new forms, volkner is no longer on the sunyshore gym, and the underground will go wi-fi. opinions? '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]''' 17:47, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
:We should stick to the information in the magazines and on the website. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:18, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

== Clothes ==
Well, it isn't confirmed, that there will be a new main outfit. Many players think that the blue jacket is only for the snow areas off Sinnoh (Snowpoint, R217, R218, Mt. Coronet) --[[User:Furanty|Furanty]] 19:29, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
:Well, certain areas or not, it's a new outfit. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 19:39, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
::We're still jumping to far too many conclusions here. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:41, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
:::This is just my guess but I think [[Lucas]]'s(If he gets a bew look) new look is going to be something like this [[Image:Koki_in_Platinum.PNG]] to comparison to this [[Image:Koki.png]]--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 01:02, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

== A word of notice ==

I know everyone is excited about this new game and only wonder what will be new. HOWEVER this talk page is not the place to do it. please take any "Oh I hope this is in Platinum...." or anything discussion like that to this [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=28695 thread on the forums.] There is a difference between discussion to help the article and discussion about the game. Thanks! -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 20:23, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
:LISTEN TO SKETCHIES DAMMIT. Talk pages are purely for the article, NOT FOR BLOODY SPECULATION! [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 11:08, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

== Battle screenshot ==

I don't think the battle screen is actually updated. Looking at it, it seems to me like the HP bar and stuff are still sliding into space. Lucas doesn't have any Poké Balls by his head yet, and the background's still doing something weird, so I think it's still transitioning into the battle. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 06:12, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

:Yes, but the text doesn't appear until after the battle screen has finished transitioning, so maybe the 'pokeball bar' doesn't appear, or doesn't appear in wild battles. '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]''' 10:02, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
::Or it's still beta. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 11:20, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Hang on a moment, let me steal my brother's Pearl. ...OK, yeah, that was me failing. I haven't played a game since Sapphire, and that was only until I got all the Pokémon I needed to trade him, so I'm not familiar with how the new games work. Apologies. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 20:45, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

== 'Forme?' ==

What's with the extra e on Giratina's Origin Form? Who's spelling it like that? Has it even been officially translated into English yet?--[[User:Amp|Amp]] 19:17, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

:It's a conspiracy by the Church of E. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 19:38, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
::TTEchidna explains it all [[User talk:TTEchidna#So... uh...|here]]. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 20:45, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Check Deoxys on the official American Pokedex: http://www.pokemon.com/Pokedex/flash.asp --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 01:38, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
:::: I suspect sabotage, myself. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 10:08, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

== Locations and Pokedex entries on pokemon pages ==

Is it really needed now? Because I dont like the part under Pearl in locations that says "Platinum:Unknown"[[User:Krakash|Krakash]] 13:07, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
:Yes it is. Information pops up sooner than you think! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:43, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
::No it isn't. There is no point having the templates set up until we actually have the information. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:15, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

== Trivia section ==

Gamefreak had obviously planned for Giratina to be the mascot with the sharing of syllables (gir''atina'' and pl''atina''), so I think it's a fact that the platinum on Giratina is the skin.--[[User:Shinin|Shinin]] 13:53, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
:And with the ''gir'' possibly coming from ''girare'' which can mean ''wander'', it would basically be wandering platinum, which is what Giratina basically is.•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[:Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|102]]''' 01:01, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

== Colour to Version ==
Ho-Oh's primary colour is red when looking at at, so the Trivia point isn't exactly valid as it stands. [[User:Gywall|Gywall]] 15:39, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

:Your point is valid, but there was already a Pokemon Red... Also Lugia isn't really silver, it is white, but that makes no sense. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 02:27, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

== Protection request ==

A lot of people have making changes and undoing changes. I say we protect it for a while. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:39, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
:Just because it gets changed doesn't mean it should be protected. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 20:41, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
::But there are edit wars going on. That's why it should be protected. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:45, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
:There is no Edit war, just a bunch of reverts and such[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|C is for Cookie]] 20:46, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
::By going through the history I see just 1 small war. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 20:47, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
:::But it's a minor one and there is no need for protection. There isn't one now. is there?•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 20:56, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
::::Okay fine. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 21:11, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

== Escher? ==

Where'd the Escher comment from? Admittedly, I haven't seen this shot. But even so, it seems awfully POV. [[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight]][[User talk:Midnight Celtic|Celtic]] 18:34, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

:Serebii.com has a screenshot[http://www.serebii.net/platinum/pics.shtml]. I guess the Torn World invokes the feelings of Escher's {{wp|Image:Escher's Relativity.jpg|"Crazy Stairs"}} painting. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:54, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

::Meh, I saw it, but I don't see Escher. But a question arises. How in the world do you get around in platforms like that? [[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight]][[User talk:Midnight Celtic|Celtic]] 18:34, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

:::My best guess would be some type of tile. Like a Warp Tile. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:39, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

::::I think the vine things help. and i think the screenshot needs to be rotated 90 degrees anticlockwise, judging by the way round lucas is standing. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|808080|Origami}}{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|FF8000|Guy}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|808080|T}}-{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|FF8000|C}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|0080FF|M}}''' 18:40, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Please do not go off topic. the article is the only thing that should be discussed here. Thanks. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 18:43, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

== New Designs ==

I found this.Is this how they are going to look like?--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 01:33, 12 June 2008 (UTC) [[Image:Personajesplatino11jun08.jpg|250px|From a Scan]]
:Yes.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 03:27, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
I was going to remove this; but then I realized this does have merit to the article. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 03:36, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
::Dawn already has a Platinum picture on her page. We need to make a picture of Lucas...better than this one though, the outline is all messed up. Pearl too. Although his design barely changed, so a simple description would suffice for a longer time...--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 03:39, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

== Other Trainer sprites changing ==

Do we actually know that other Trainer sprites will change to accommodate for the cold?--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 04:04, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
:I don't think so. There's not even any evidence that it will be colder; just the people wearing seeming winter clothes. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 04:36, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
::Everyone's actually reporting Sinnoh's climate has changed; that much seems to hold true. Everybody ''else's'' sprites, I dunno.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:37, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Serebii hasn't always been the best source in the past. I'll let it go for now, though. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 07:36, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
::::In one screen with the two new characters there is snow on the ground in Eterna city, the climate looks like it's changing. -Alec2792 16:40, 13 June 2008 (EST)

== Box art? ==

Where did the box art come from?[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 14:06, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

:CoroCoro appearantly. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:12, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
::I',m getting more and more interested.[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 14:16, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

:::Looks like it was added by {{u|Sailor Earth}}. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:34, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Can someone add this[http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/6669/60011673co8.png] higher res picture for the boxart. -Alec2792 16:32, 13 June 2008 (EST)

I can see that the spikes coming out of Giratina origin forme streamers are translucent--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 12:37, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
:Like, can you people please stop posting spam (Goddamit, I wish I had the power to remove these messages). So what if they're translucent??? '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''13:28 28 Jun 2008'''''

::It was just an observation. Don't have a {{p|Miltank}}. Sheesh... ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:29, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
::"Allowed to," Optimus? Does Bulbapedia have rules against normal users erasing spam? (Anyone can on Wikipedia...not saying anything.)--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 21:41, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
:::-sweatdrop- Was in a bad mood yesterday after Word crashed and I couldn't do my homework. Fine, fine, I won't do it again. And no, I don't have a Miltank. Never played GS except for ShinyGold. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''00:51 29 Jun 2008'''''

==Proven?==
*When transfered from Diamond and Pearl, Shaymin automatically changes into Sky Forme.

Can this be proven? I don't know if this was said directly in the Japanese mag, if it was then please excuse this. If not it should be removed.[[User:GJPal|GJ]] 18:52, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
:It's in the Famitsu scan. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 18:58, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
::OK, now {{u|PsychicRider}} removed it. Has it been ''dis''proved? --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 20:14, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Yes, go to Serebii.net's front page. A key item is needed to swich forms. Blazevoir 21:45, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Won't trust Sere if I were you. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''23:39 5 Jul 2008'''''
:::::Well, I actually saw a [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showpost.php?p=583890&postcount=364 post] on the forums that included scans of a magazine page detailing the process. I have no idea whether or not it says what they say it says, since I don't read Japanese, but until someone can dispute it...
:::::Anyway, I'll add something about the key item. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 03:40, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

==Pictures==
Should pictures of the Regis in the game be added?--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 19:20, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
:Or the Platinum art of the 3 starters?--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 19:21, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

== New Charactors? ==

The new charactor looks like both Maylene and Pearl. Does anyone else notice this? I think it could be a relationship because the Tower Tycoon is related to pearl so this could be his Grandfather.[[User:Rucario64]] 02:30, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
:...Does this have anything to do with editing the article? Sketchies...-rings bell- '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''02:37 29 Jun 2008'''''

::This statemant was deleted before... ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 03:56, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

==Pics==
I found some pics of changes in Platinum --[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 20:43, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff194/CoolPikachu/aspectocarrilbici29juniopng.png Cycle Road in Platinum
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff194/CoolPikachu/aspectogalaxiaplatino29juniopng.png Veilstone City Team Galatic HQ(Platinum)
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff194/CoolPikachu/aspectocanal29juniopng.png Cantalave City Libary(Platinum)
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff194/CoolPikachu/aspectogalaxiavetusta29juniopng.png Eterna City Team Galactic HQ(Platinum)
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff194/CoolPikachu/Platinum_Registeel.jpg (Registeel Cave)
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff194/CoolPikachu/Platinum_Regice.jpg (Regice Cave)

Wow. Did you find any pics of Regirock Cave? If the other two are available, Regirock should be too. Could you also provide a link to where these pics were found?
[[User:Yugiohguy1|Yugiohguy1]] 18:17, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

I've got some new pics,

http://www.pokemonplatinum.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/0011.jpg Sinnoh, revised
http://www.pokemonplatinum.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/0021.jpg A close-up of the anomaly

http://www.pokemonplatinum.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/poketch1.jpg The new Pokétch

And I've found a translation of the Japanese Pokémon Platinum site- Here's the story:

Pokémon Diamond centered around Dialga, the ruler of time; Pearl centered around Palkia, the ruler of space. In this installment, Giratina is the star. A mysterious portal has opened atop Sinnoh’s Mt. Coronet, serving as the entrance to the Ruined World, an alternate dimension warping time and space. A story of “epic proportions” unfolds with Sinnoh in center stage!

And this:

The boy and girl trainers have gotten new outfits in response to Sinnoh’s colder weather, caused by the disturbance. They are sporting new Pokétchs, too. The rival will help out the protagonists as well in this installment.

http://www.pokemonplatinum.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/outfits1.jpg Another pic of the protagonists.

[[User:Grasspuff|MooTwo]] 09:55, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

==Pluto?==
Where did the info about the new character being named Pluto come from? '''~[[User:RR|R]][[User talk:RR|R]]~''' 01:43, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

:I did. I found the information [http://www.pokemonplatinum.net/ here]. It was on the second page right underneath a picture of him. Blazevoir 03:21, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

::There's nothing there to actually prove his name is Pluto. The Japanese caption just says that they're new characters.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 03:24, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

:::Sorry. If you want to change it back, go ahead. Blazevoir 03:28, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

::::It's not your fault. I blame them for making up ''stupid crap.''--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 03:33, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::Do you want to get rid of the link also? Some of the stuff there is true, like Regigigas' moveset for the movie. Plus, it's the one of the only sites that has information about Platinum in English. Blazevoir 15:25, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

::::::Well if we can verify their information I don't really see a problem...but we should definitely keep an eye out.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 18:07, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

This is getting ridiculous. DPP? So what if it's the first gen to get two of the same letter? Does it matter? RBF'''R'''LGE. Gen III. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''15:02 5 Jul 2008'''''

RS! But FR is one, it should be RSFLE in my opinion--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 15:05, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah, FR counts as one, LG counts as one. But remember, it's not Firered, it's FireRed. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:15, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
::Does Germany not count? Emerald and Sapphire both start with S in the German language. -- [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|SeriousDom]] 00:28, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

It does not count cuz Bulbapedia is English--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 00:31, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
:It counts. jast becoz babapeedia is eengleesh dus nut min thut guhman theengs r nut cunted. Seriously, stop using short form. Anyway, it goes in. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''01:01 12 Jul 2008'''''
::But if that counts, then Spanish also counts, where the very first generation had '''A'''zul (Blue) and '''A'''marillo (Yellow). Then other languages will see the chance to mention their own coincidence. IMHO, the trivia should contain only the English bit, if any.--[[User:Kaoz|Kaoz]] 23:07, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

== GTS ==

If you look at the picture of inside the new GTS, it has the same big computers as the first new room. Should we change it, or let it be confirmed? '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 12:26, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
:Wait until we actually know what the new GTS does. Until then. Leave it alone. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 12:54, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
Apparently it is the 'Global Terminal' now, not 'Global Trade Station'.-Rabla 2:34, 11 July 2008.

== Giratina's Another Forme ==

As seen in [http://www.pokemonplatinum.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/2008-08_03.jpg this] picture (bottom right), Giratina seems to have the spikes on his wings rearranged. Is this worthy of a mention? [[User:Lv100|Lv100]] 14:05, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:I'd say so.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 18:27, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
::They did talk about new animation. Maybe it's the second frame sprite. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:32, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Probably is. Look at the Origin Forme. It's not the same either. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 05:37, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

==Gym Leader Sprites==
I saw a video on Platinum and Gardinia's Sprite moves when you battle her and her Gym is remodeled here's the vid [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_iIlDR7GFk Platinum Video]--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pika''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''chu!''']] 22:17, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
:Woah. And from the looks of things, the Pokémon's backsprites have new animations as well. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 22:31, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
::Like Pikachu! It looks at you when coming out.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pika''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''chu!''']] 22:32, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
And Shaymin's new form may have a different cry--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pika''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''chu!''']] 23:14, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
:Different cry? That's weird... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:53, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
:Yea I think.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pika''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''chu!''']] 06:01, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah, and Deoxys has a different cry in FireRed than in Ruby... '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 01:36, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Are you sure?--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pika''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''chu!''']] 01:37, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
::::It was sarcasm. No Pokémon has changed its cry since Gen I, and there is no reason to change any existing cry. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 01:44, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::{{tt|Oh.|I ''hate'' sarcasm}}--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pika''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''chu!''']] 01:48, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::I think it actually might be a different cry since it is a different type, sprite, shape, size, ect. {{Tt|That may have caused Nintendo to change the cry too.|This isnt't sarcasm.}}-- [[User:23-03-33]] 17:33, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
I see you didn't get it. A cry is something distinctive for every Pokémon, so, it MUST NOT be changed. I know that {{tt|Mr. Badass|Sky Forme}} is '''''{{tt|very|I mean VERY different: height, weight, type, etc.}}''''' different than the normal Shaymin we all know, it's still the same Pokémon, so IT WILL HAVE the same 'tweet tweet' cry even if you don't like it. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 20:41, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
:Not as distinctive as some think. Some pokemon share Crys (Mostly in the original 151 but there are exceptions)[[User:Lego3400|Lego3400]] 13:41, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
::ditto and poliwag for example '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 10:49, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

== More Info Regarding Platinum ==

From another [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj_wQlKxCbo Pokémon Sunday video] about Platinum, I found out that there will me moving platforms in the Torn World. The outlying platforms you can jump on have gaps, that act a lot like the ledges in ordinary routes. I also watched the part of the video when the hosts of Pokémon Sunday were making Poffins. You have to keep spinning Swalot, and the one who gives him the most berries wins.

--[[User:Ore-sama.|'''Ore-sama♂''']] [[User talk:Ore-sama.|''':D''']] 4:26, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

== New Information ??? ==

I have found a new source [http://pokemon.kids.yahoo.co.jp/platinum/library/ on this page]. It has some battle information and some new battle sprites. I think it also describes some wifi differences. I don't speak or read Japanese so I can't really tell.-- [[User:23-03-33]] 17:27, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

== New Begining ==

Where does it say or show the player gets their starter in a different way to DP? --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 19:57, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

== And the sprites ==

Since we now know for sure that the Platinum sprites are different for all Pokémon... or at least Sinnoh ones...

Well, what will we do about the animation? Will we do it as we did Emerald? Will we make the DP sprites animate? This sounds... possibly... to be a perfect time to ready support for animated .pngs. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:29, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
:I think it's better to leave DP as inanimated pics. Just like Crystal and Emerald, Platinum ones should be animated, but until the game is released. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 03:59, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
::Why shouldn't the DP sprites be animated? If we do Platinum but not DP, there will be the implication that DP's sprites aren't animated.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 06:40, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
:pngs can be animated!? '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 11:34, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

== Worthy of a mention? ==

I saw [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0eyqE_3KPA| this video] and if you look around 2:37 you can see that there is snow lining some of the regular routes, probably linked with the climate getting colder. I was wondering if this is worthy of a mention and if it is may I please be the one to add it as it will be my first contribution to the mainpspace. // [[User:Crest|'''C-R''']] [[User talk:Crest|'''E-S''']] [[special:Contributions/Crest|'''T-☆''']] 23:18, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:Go ahead; we've already mentioned that the climate is colder, but only to explain why Lucas and Dawn are wearing heavier outfits. We ''should'' make the cold climate statement more general...there's snow in Twinleaf now, too.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 00:30, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

== Spoilers ==

is it appropriate to put a spoiler warning on the page? [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 01:57, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
:yes. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 10:11, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
::Do any of the other games have spoiler tags? No. If people don't want to know about the game, they shouldn't come to the page.--[[User:Blazevoir|Blaz]][[User talk:Blazevoir|evoir]] 10:19, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
:::And? I vote this page gets a spoiler warning...[[User:Takoto|~~Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 10:29, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Future event tag, not spoiler. However, we could stick the spoiler tag on the storyline area. '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''10:30 3 Sep 2008'''''
== leaflet information, probably fake ==

the video I saw features 3 new rotom formes on youtube, type the following: new Pokemon revealed (rotom new forms)--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 15:29, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah, we've seen it. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 15:41, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

so fake or not? or shall we wait till Nintemdo confirms a thing or two?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 15:44, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
:Nintendo says they won't release anything until September 28, so I'd say wait.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 16:01, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

== 151 plus 52? ==

Well it says that the Sinnoh Dex will be increased with 52 Pokémon... I'd like to see where that info came from, because 151+52 = 203, NOT 210!!!! anyways, if 52 new Pokémon are added, they'll be all Gen IV Pokémon not included in the sinnoh Dex with their families (excluding the Eevee family, as only adding Eevee we get the total of 52). '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 18:38, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

151+59!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 18:39, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

:Ok, someone fixed it... anyways where did that come from especifically? '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 18:43, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

blueskY, apparently--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 18:45, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

:Nothing confirmed, don't fanwank. And, I always bring that up when someone religiously follow blueSkY's Blog, blueSkY used to post fake informations, just like the infamous Zak rumor. So, please don't believe in his every word (we still didn't got any confirmation that [[Volkner]] will be replaced and I say it's pretty unlikely, as we've seen that Volkner's title is still Gym Leader on one of the videos). --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 18:54, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
::That's what I'm talking about, it is extremely doubtful. Is like if they changed the Hoenn dex when Emerald came out, but seeing that they changed [[Shaymin (Pokémon)|a Pokémon's]] cry, it could be... but very doubtful. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 19:00, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

:::The information originates from a merchandise advertisement; the item in question is associated with Platinum in its branding, but to go as far as to conclude that the collectible Pokémon therein represent the Sinnoh Pokédex critters, is quite a stretch. After all, assuming that the Pokédex has been kept in tact, why should the toy company limit the content to a rather arbitrary selection of Pokémon dictated by the games?

:::An addition of 59 monsters would be quite noteworthy, and yet all of the game advertisements have only shown the same Pokémon from the original Sinnoh Pokédex (unless in the context of the Battle Frontier and Wi-Fi). Why, for instance, would they have bothered to showcase Magmortar and Electivire in a Wi-Fi battle, when they could have just shown them being used by Volkner and Flint? I should also think that they would have taken the opportunity to refer to Giratina's Sinnoh Pokédex number by now. -[[User:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 19:24, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

== No ranch?! ==

Aw, man, that stinks. Though can't WiiWare be updated...? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:46, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

:Where'd u hear that???--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''ュウ!''']] 22:58, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
::Logic. It's downloadable content. It's very, very simple to issue patches or updates for this format.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 17:27, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

== New sprites ==

I screenprinted these from some of the trailers and commercials. These are only a few of them and I'm too lazy to find them all. :P
[[Image:New_platinum_sprites.PNG]]
I like the Leafeon and Lucario sprites the most. The Pachirisu looks a bit funny though xD
[[User:Pocchama|Pocchama]] 02:52, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
:Not bad... but I definitely think we ought to wait until the actual game comes out so we can get the sprites directly from a ROM. It'd be more standardized that way. Besides, there's not really a point to adding some sprites if we can't get all of them. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 03:01, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
::I agree, we should wait. plus then there'll be no background.
::and oh my gosh, what did they do to piplup? when know one picks it, we'll know why. I like the chimchar though. --'''[[User:Mooites|Mooites]]''' [[User talk:Mooites|Talk to me, baby!]] 03:15, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Starly makes you wonder whether it's paying attention or not...--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:31, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
::::Lol. They ruined Pachirisu, Piplup, and Turtwig....--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''ュウ!''']] 06:00, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::I lol'd at Starly's sprite, also, Piplup's head looks too big :C [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 10:22, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

dude, infernape looks BEAST.[[User:Garrison12795|Garr]][[Ludicolo (Pokémon)|ison]][[User talk:Garrison12795|12795]] 11:00, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
:Some of these have a very peculiar stance...not that it's bad--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 11:02, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
::I Lol'd at Pachirisu, plus te buizel sprite whihc isnt here makes it look funny.[[User:David aipom|Davidaipom]] 18:42, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

== Getting sprites ==

So, who'll be getting sprites from Platinum for the site? [[User: Tc26|'''tc''']][[User talk: Tc26|'''2''']][[Special: Contributions/Tc26|'''6''']] 10:30, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
:I was working on the Dialga's one some days ago... but it still is just a restoration much like the Shaymin's one. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 22:08, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
::I meant from the game itself when it comes out, not ripping and cleaning from screenshots. [[User: Tc26|'''tc''']][[User talk: Tc26|'''2''']][[Special: Contributions/Tc26|'''6''']] 10:14, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Same guys behind it last time... Zhen and a few of those over at PokéWiki. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:40, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
::::So we are just plain getting rid of the older DP standard sprites? That doesn't seem right. [[User:Toastypk|'''''~Toastypk''''']] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|'''Loom.''']] 14:59, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::Not rid of. We're replacing ###.png as we did when DP came out. The DP sprites will stay at Spr 4d ###.png, however. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:31, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

== Mysterys pokémon = Rotom's new forms ==

in * [http://www.serebii.net Serebii.net] and another pkmn web pages show about the mystery silhouettes as a new forms of rotom
:O RLY? --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 14:36, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
:Yep, and not only that, but the game was released today instead of September 13th as originally stated, as Serebii and some people on TV.com are stating the changes and adding to the websites. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 22:34, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
::Well shit. There goes ''my'' plans for Friday. Now I gotta rushjob the updates... Quick, someone finish the moves! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:47, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

== Released today ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4kPiOdfY7Y

As you can see, this is the Platinum intro, and it's from a DS, and it was just posted today. [[user:Baby G|Baby G]] ([[user talk:Baby G|talk to me]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|see my edits]]) 22:42, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
:I bet it's an advance copy. Nintendo often sends games out to popular internet people for them to review and whatever. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 22:52, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
::Umm, Pikachu135111 and SPDShadowRanger got it as well, and while Pikachu maybe a popular internet reviewer, he isn't even in the same league as other critics. Besides which, SPDShadowRanger isn't really a well-known reviewer (he's more like an informant than an ACTUAL reviewer [By informant, I mean posting recent news, leaked or not on forums for everyone to see, not the "Squealer" kind of informant.].) [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 22:59, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
:::That's called a "leak". Baby G and others, quit treating today as the release date. Nintendo said the 13th and so will this page.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 02:12, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

In no way are Pikachu135111 and myself reviewers. All we do it post the information for the TV.com community. Also I don't know what you classify as "well Known", but I doubt Pikachu is of that class. Also, we DO NOT have the game.

--[[User:HoennMaster|--HoennMaster]] 05:13, 11 September 2008 (UTC) (AKA SPDShadowRanger)

Oh... you... weren't. My mistake. I thought that you did have it since you were commenting on it's changes as if you DID own the game, and as if it DID come out.

It's not a "leak". It's from a DS. [[user:Baby G|Baby G]] ([[user talk:Baby G|talk to me]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|see my edits]]) 20:34, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
:Ever heard of an R4? Playing ROMs on actual DSes is possible and ''common''.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 03:19, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
::And even if it's an actual copy of the game, it's entirely possible some import site or Amazon Japan [etc., etc.] simply broke street date...which happened when DP was released in America.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 03:23, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Bulbasaur (Pokémon)

2008-09-09T17:53:46Z

$aturn¥oshi: /* Problem */

Hey can we not have Bulbasaur link to Deoxys in the directory? We're going to get new pokemon and it'd just be better to not have the pokemon in a loop. It'd save sanity for when we get the 4th Gen. I'm trying to fix it now[[User:LedianX|LedianX]] 21:07, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

How so? Just change Deoxys on the Bulbasaur page to whatever the new last one should be when necessary - a single page edit. It's not like there's going to be tons of new pokemon every day. [[User:Sheep|Sheep]] 21:25, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Ok. Let me fix it but if you think I'm gonna relink all 386 pokemon with Meowth again like yesterday..You're nuts.[[User:LedianX|LedianX]] 21:36, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

No Deo-Bulba link. It's not circular. [[User:Evkl|Evkl]] 21:53, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Before all these Pokemon pages are redone, should nav be up on top as well as on bottom, or easily locating the nav, no matter how long the page? --[[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]]

This doesn't really relate, but could we add some possibilities to what certain Pokemon are based off of? As well as what names seem to be based off of? Like Bulbasaur=bulb+dinosaur, or Bulbasaur appears to be a dinosaur? Just asking here because it's a Pokemon page with lots of activity

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I'm going to try to automate changing all the navigations for all the Pokemon. Hopefully no one starts editing before I get my script working. I may still be a good hour away from perfecting it. --[[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]]
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Great. I don't feel like changing them all since we spent so long putting them there to begin with. [[User:LedianX|LedianX]] 01:46, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

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Can you believe I spend *36* minutes trying to get this working, trying things, and the problem with my script was an "&" missing? I'll start mass-updating the pages after I ensure there are no problems, and write a looper. --[[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]]
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I can believe it. But, I thought we weren't going to loop to Deoxys? Evan said we weren't It's going to be a bit of a pain with the new Pokemon. Not to mention we have to put Munchlax and Rukario in there somewhere.[[User:LedianX|LedianX]] 02:59, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

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Would there be a template problem without the looping? If not, then anyone can freely unloop them. --[[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]]

There is so far. I'm debating whether to make a special template for Deo and Bulba.

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That should be easy enough. Make a "next" template and a "previous" template, and have the NextPrevious template combine these, right? --[[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]]

Perhaps - the problem would then be developing a template to wrap the blue box around it. Or we could just cheat and duplicate code as needed. (Also, I thought you had the Bulbabot account at your disposal to do these automatic changes (they pollute the Recent changes page otherwise)). Also, your bot is a little too overzealous with the &lt; conversion - some HTML tags are also valid in Wiki. - [[User:Zhen Lin|刘 (劉) 振霖]] 07:15, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

The &lt; was a mistake because of how I managed the text (along with viewing it in the browser before I had all the find/replace working): download, change < to &lt;, then change newlines to BR tags, then modify, then change BR tags back to new lines, then replace the &lt;. I had forgotten about the &lt; in comments. In the end, it turned out I didn't even need to bother with less-than signs, as the textarea box doesn't even use HTML. As for BulbaBot, I don't remember the password, and it wasn't in .bash_history, nor did I feel up to checking my GAIM log. But if I knew that it wouldn't show up in recent changes, I would have done that. --[[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]]

== Moves ==

The version isn't specified, and there is already a page format allocated for this. If you just want to test things, you can do it on a seperate page. Or just use the "Show preview" button. --[[User:Jshadias|Jshadias]] 02:52, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

We know...we're discussing the best way to handle it. I would appreciate it if you wouldn't have any snide comments. We're in a chat right now dealing with it. If you would like to be included in the BMG mod chat please AIM someone.[[User:LedianX|LedianX]] 03:01, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

== Don't mean to impose, but... ==

Have you considered using the setup given by the Pokémon WikiProject at Wikipedia? The articles seems to be more a guide on how they are in the games, instead of their relevance in the game/anime/manga/TCG. Compare [[Wikipedia:Bulbasaur]] with [[Bulbasaur]], for instance. - [[User:A Link to the Past|A Link to the Past]] 00:02, 7 September 2005 (CDT)

I'm sorry, that wasn't terribly clear - what do you mean? What is lacking on the Bulbapedia article? Is it just a matter of depth covered (we might be the biggest Pokémon wiki encyclopedia, but we don't get the kind of activity Wikipedia gets) - or something else? As far as I can see, the Wikipedia articles are structured quite like ours. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 03:36, 7 September 2005 (CDT)
:The articles just need some fleshing out. - [[User:A Link to the Past|A Link to the Past]] 06:34, 7 September 2005 (CDT)
::Then it's nothing to be concerned about. Nothing is ever "done" - it's always open for improvement. Admittedly, it would be nice to have it fleshed out, but we simply don't have the kind of activity Wikipedia gets... so unless you're volunteering to do the work or help convince others to come contribute their work to Bulbapedia, you're just going to have to wait. Bulbapedia, like the Pokémon WikiProject, relies on volunteered work. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 07:07, 7 September 2005 (CDT)

== GameShark/Action Replay Codes? ==

Someone want to put up an explanation for we non-cheating types what the heck those codes are for and why they're in the article? --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 06:25, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
:Indeed. They're gone now. The same user also made a dubious edit to the GS Ball article. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 11:01, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

== Sprites! ==

that whole table of the different sprites is very, very, cool. i am thinking perhaps that could become the Project Spritedex? something or another...anyways, i am just letting everybody out there know i would be eager to help get files of the different sprites for you guys...thanks [[User:bill33421]]
PS: the emerald shiny sprite is missing
:Actually, the sprites fall under {{bp|Project Pokédex}}. And yes, I know the Emerald shiny sprite is missing... I haven't been able to find it. If you can add the sprites to Bulbagarden Archives, well, more power to you. Just make sure to upload them with the proper filename. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 11:22, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
:interesting...so yes, i will try to get them, but if i could ask, how do '''you''' get them? is there a site that i can find pics on then upload to bulbagarden? or should i crop screenshots of games?
*There are several sites out there with sprites. Pokemon elite 2000 and upokecenter are good candidates; however it is better to do them yourself. I am going to attempt to fill in all the missing sprites for the first generation- I have (nearly) uploaded all the normal and shiny crystal sprites. (all from 10-111)--[[User:Cadellin|Cadellin]] 13:32, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

[[User:Bill33421|Bill33421]] 19:42, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

== Diet ==

What up wit the diet? We're talking about Pokémon, fictional creatures, here, not animals, very few have their own individual diets and most of them just have a link to the Pokémon food main article, I just don't see the point in it. -[[Image:Ani491MS.gif]][[User:Kpokefan|K]][[User Talk:Kpokefan|P]][[Darkrai (Pokémon)|F]]
:Think about it: is it better to have a link to an article or have nothing link to the article on Pokémon food? '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:15, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

== First Pokemon ==

this part of the trivia section:

"# Bulbasaur is the first dual-type Pokémon in National Dex order.
# Bulbasaur is the first Grass Pokémon in National Dex order.
# Bulbasaur is the first Poison Pokémon in National Dex order.
# Bulbasaur is the first Pokémon in the National Dex order. "

This sounds rediculous, we know Bulbasaur is the first pokemon, so we don't need to say it is the first poison type, grass type, and dual type. ([[User:GT4GTR|--●[[User:GT4GTR|'''GT4GTR''']] [[User talk:GT4GTR|''/ talk /'']]]] 10:05, 22 April 2008 (UTC))

== Movesets ==

Someone should make it so that the moveset ''changes'' to the correct generation when you click on it, rather than linking to a seperate page. --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 00:18, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
:<s>That's exactly what it does for me. Maybe it's something to do with your browser.</s> Wait never mind. Well I'll leave a job like that to someone who knows his way around wiki coding.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 04:03, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
:: im not sure if thats possible. TTE made the templates, youll have to bring it up with him. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:42, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

== Bulbabye? ==

I was watching the first movie again the other day, and in the Pikachu Short, Ash's Bulbasaur used the "Bulba-Bye" on Togepi. I came to check, but it wasn't here. Wouldn't that be something to put in the Behavior section or something like that? [[User:Dlt4|DLT4]] 04:50, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure it would be "Bulba-by," to fit with "lullaby." Anyway, it would actually probably be more appropriate on [[Ash's Bulbasaur]], since this doesn't seem to exist outside of the Anime and I think that's the only Bulbasaur that used it. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 04:56, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

I was thinking that too - but Dexter said it was the 'first recording' of it, possibly implying that others do it too. [[User:Dlt4|DLT4]] 22:11, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

:Actually, it implies the exact opposite, if you think about it, considering Dexter was talking DURING the event. Dexter ain't psychic. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 22:18, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

== Problem ==

I have problems viewing the sprite section. When I press the show button it looks sort of distorted. I took a screenshot and I'll upload what it looks like within 5 minutes and post it here. I've tryed it multiple times and it might just be my computer or it might be an error in the system.--[[User:23-03-33]] 21:45, 5 September 2008 (UTC) Here is the image and as you can see the evolution overlaps the sprite page for some reason. [[User:23-03-33]][[Image:Bulbasaur bad image.GIF|500px|500px]]
:[http://www.getfirefox.com I have a solution]. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:04, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
:: Alternatively, get a new IE. I have IE7 and it works fine here. You seem to have... 6? --[[User:Kyoufu Kawa|Kyoufu Kawa]] 07:05, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
:: IE7 did make it show up right. thanks for your help. -- [[User:23-03-33]] 07:45, 6 September 2008 (EST)
:::Which leaves us with a problem.What about with the random people who come to this site expecting a good page and the Evoluition box overlaps in the Sprite section....--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Talk]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Contributions))]]
Cant we put a link on the front page that says "This Website is Best Viewed in Mozilla Firefox" or whatever those say? [[User:Dlt4|DLT4]] 04:16, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
:Likely. Or plaster GET FIREFOX ads all over the freakin' place... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:45, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
::I like TTE's idea, but it's not rational. We should just put a notice on the main page space thingy bob. [[User:Tesh|'''TESH''']][[User_talk:Tesh|'''IGIGAS''']] 16:22, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

:::Even with IE6, if you open the sprite box, expand the window to full screen and shrink it back down again, everything lines up correctly. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:53, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

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Thank you, and have a good time editing here! --[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 01:23, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

:Thanks! ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:31, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
::No problemo and ok.'''[[User:CoolPikachu!|♫Cool]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|Pikachu]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|!♫]]'''
== Neat ==
Your sig is cool. Where'd you learn wiki coding? --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 01:36, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah your fast '''[[User:CoolPikachu!|♫Cool]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|Pikachu]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|!♫]]'''

::I used to edit frequently on Wikipedia, until the users became too elitist. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:42, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

:::Ohh I also came from there but was on it seldomly '''[[User:CoolPikachu!|♫Cool]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|Pikachu]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|!♫]]'''

== Newcomer? ==
You're new here, too? (Oh, and I got Darkrai at Toys 'R' Us. He disliked me when I first got him! Thanks for responding back.) {{ani|385}}[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 17:29, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Apparently, it looks as though you leave something whenever I leave something on the Talk pages... A stalker Darkrai hiding in the shadows, following me? Just kidding, I actually appreciate it since I just started out today. ^.^ [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 19:44, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

== Question ==

Are you willing to do more? I can't do them myself because my computer can't read Japanese, so I can't be sure with any characters I use. I want to know how you are doing it, are you just searching attacks that the Pokémon might have? because if you are, that won't work for very long. Many of the cards have weird attacks that aren't present in the games and I was just wondering if that was how you were doing it. If you don't want to do more...I understand. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:12, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:Well then, I have a long list so we might as well get started now. {{TCG ID|5th Movie Half Deck|Oakley's Ariados|1}}. I think it would be better if I just link you the picture instead of posting the picture on your talk page: [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Oakleyariados.jpg] ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:34, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

::I won't be able to do too much right now, but I will get cracking on this as soon as I have more time. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:37, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:::That is perfectly fine. Just post the attacks on my page when you finish them! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:45, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:Okay, the following might be tough with the Poké-Body in it but: [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Samiyachatot1.jpg] I do not expect you to translate it for me right now, I am dealing with the mess known as {{TCG|"PCG-P" Promotional cards}} (which this card is actually in). ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:24, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
::A new Samiya's Chatot!! [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Samiyachatot2.jpg] ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 15:53, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
::I'm not sure about the Continuous Scratch because the damage is only 20, Continuous Scratch is an attack that would have 20× instead of just 20. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:04, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Okay. I'll give it another go. It's amazing that you can get completely different results by being just one character off. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:31, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
:If you can't get it, we can move on because I put the translation notice on the page. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:40, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Can I ask you to do something different for me? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 15:29, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah, go ahead. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:54, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::I need the kanji from the name in the top left corner for each of the following:
<gallery>
Image:Normalmovie.jpg
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Could you do that for me please? If you click on the image, it should be bigger on the Archives. (Sorry if it seems like a lot...) ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:21, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:Well I was kinda right, something with translation~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 16:22, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::YES!!! That is exactly what I need (as far as I can tell, remember, I can't read Japanese on my computer) If you can get them all, you just pulled me out the hole I was in!! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:36, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Yay! Knocked out three. Only seven left. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:40, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::Aaron and Tory have their Jap. names already, but they have additions (like last names) added onto them. They are up there because I don't know what belongs and what doesn't. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:10, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Seven down. Three more to do! ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 00:11, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

== Diamond and Pearl Poketch ==

Actually, check the game, it says that Poketch is short for Pokemon Tech. Of this I am certain as I have had this argument with a number of people and they all agree with me now. {{Unsigned|Admiralaew}}
:Quote from the father of the President on the second floor of the Pokétch Company: "Pokémon Watch! That's Pokétch for short." ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 22:56, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

::Actually, I did check the game. It says Pokémon Watch. Those that believe you when you tell them "Pokémon Tech" are {{p2|Mareep|sheep}}. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 23:17, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

:::I'm sorry, I concede. I realized what happened, basically I wasn't paying attention, stupid me, very very sorry. On a side note, I am curious as to how you create your signature. {{Unsigned|Admiralaew}}
::::For starters, sign your comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. For info on creating a custom sig, see the new {{bp|signature policy}}. It also contains rules on what you can and can't do with your sig, so read it carefully. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 23:44, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::That's basically the gist of it. Thank you, Martonimos. If you have a good grasp on wiki coding, you can create a sig that you like. It took a while for me to come up with this one, it's a altered version of my old Wikipedia signature. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:59, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

== Adminship ==

To be honest, I don't really feel like I deserve it. I'm kind of an ass on wikis. (And wasn't TTE kind of throwing power around to clean up the Capulet disaster quicker...?) Not to sound ungrateful. ;[--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 00:32, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

:I wasn't on during that fiasco, but out of all the people that were on you were one of the few that were selected. In my eyes, that counts for something. I don't think of you as being ungrateful, you're just unsure is all. Don't worry, everything will slip into place. Of this I am confident. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 03:15, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

== Cards ==

Finally, you are done, I can put you to work on something else{{tt|*|Don't worry, this next thing will be the last thing I need you to do for me for a while, I have a lot to do right now}}! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:33, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

:Okay. :D ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 03:34, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
::I need to know what the attacks off of the following are. And once again, Thank you so much!! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:39, 18 July 2008 (UTC) 
<Gallery>
Image:Ash'sTreeckocard.jpg
Image:May'sTorchiccard.jpg
Image:Brock'sMudkipcard.jpg
</gallery>
:Thank you...the attack Treecko has is most likely Tail Slap: a move that other Treecko have in the TCG. And there actually is a Water Arrow attack; so, you are correct for those. Thank you. I won't ask you to do anything for me for a while; I have about 6 sets to finish with the information that you've given me already. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:47, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

::You are welcome. Glad I could be of service. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 22:49, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

== ok? ==
ok bro i dun care if im off 1 day or 1 week i dont go on this website everyday... dont take it too hard im not cussing at u or anything im just saying that i have a life [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]

:I'm just saying that I don't care. Not to sound rude or anything. (Okay, maybe a little rude...) ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:56, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
::i ll show you rude if u want[[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]

:::Yeah, okay. I really have a lot better things to do than deal with children on the internet. Good day. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 22:56, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

== Congrats ==

Nice Job on getting ur missions accomplished, but u missed the Trozei! page itself--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 00:55, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:THUN THUN THUN!!!! ~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 00:57, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

::Got 'em. It's because I was looking for links. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 00:59, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:::hmm...~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 01:00, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

== Welcoming ==

Most of those were vandals and we don't welcome vandals. No biggie though, just remember for next time.''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:48, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

:Sorry, sometimes I get a little too carried away with my copy-and-pasting. Like I stated before, I wasn't on when that whole vandal war went down. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:12, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

== A favour to ask of you ==

Still in awe at the amount of work that has gone into the Japanese cards, I now have a bit of time to start mucking in again. You seem to be Orange's choice for help with these, and I'm in the same situation as him computer-wise, so could you help me with a card too?
This is the only one I can't find a source for, I was wondering if you could get the translation for the name and text of the second attack. I know the first attack is "Peck" and the second is "Metal"-something. I can't quite make out some characters in the text. Thanks! [[User:Nuva-kal|Nuva-kal]] 20:30, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Can you also do this as well as the kirlia...I need the kanji and translation off of this and the attack if possible. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:17, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
:Thank you! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 01:53, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
::Glad I could help. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:58, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Actually, I think the attack is "Light of Revival". Since it is an irregular attack, could you possibly translate the text? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:55, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Just trying to organize thing a bit. I need the title Kanji and the translations for the following three cards, and if you could do the effect for Celebi's Light of Revival attack, it would be appreciated but it is not necessary. Thank you. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:27, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:Actually, we finished all of those and moved on, sorry. (Or your welcome, because you no longer have to do them)
''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:05, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

== Golden Oldies ==

Sorry to bother you again, but these card articles I want to create are so old and rare, they don't have entries in the card database, and I don't have the kanji for them to translate. So I was wondering if you could get the kanji for the title and body text for the cards listed?

Secret Super Battle No. 1 [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:SecretSuperBattleNo1.jpg]

Tropical Mega Battle No. 1 [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:TropicalMegaBattleNo1.jpg]

No. 1 Trainer (2000/2001) [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:No1Trainer00.jpg]

Victory Ring [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:VictoryRingTrainer.jpg]

Victory Orb [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:VictoryOrbTrainer.jpg]

Victory Orb (Mew) [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:VictoryMewTrainer.jpg]

I know this is a rather large request, but finding out what these cards do will be a real treat for some collectors out there (me included!) Thanks. '''[[Surf (move)|~~]]''''''[[User:nuva-kal|nuva]]''''''-'''[[User_talk:nuva-kal|'''kal''']] 20:24, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

== Can you ==

translate Romanji into English? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 04:31, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:What do you have? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:08, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::Madowazu ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:32, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::Where was that taken from? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:34, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::::A game-exclusive Dark Ninetales card from the Japanese only sequal to Pokémon GB for the Gameboy Color. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:36, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::::It appears to mean "puzzlement", according to Babel Fish. I had to convert the word into Hiragana to see. I guess because it's from a game they opted not to use Kanji because it would be hard to read. Especially on a hand-held screen. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:53, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::Thank you, this means that the oldest card we don't have a page for will now get a page. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:55, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::::::I'll go get the fireworks. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:56, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::::We don't get the fireworks until every card has a page, hopefully before September 15th, with the release of POP Series 8. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:58, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::::::::I'll just hold on to them. And wait. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:02, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

==HELP==

[[Kimono Girl|Go here for an article desperately needing fixing]]--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 22:55, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

:Is it the picture alignment? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 23:12, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

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For anyone interested, non-Pokémon info on me can be found {{wp|User:SaturnYoshi|here}}. (May not be completely updated.) 

And... No, my name does ''not'' come from a [[Saturn|member]] of [[Team Galactic]].
 
'''This decade's #1 article:'''
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'''My thoughts:'''
*[[Glitch|Glitches]] are not real [[MissingNo.|Pokémon]], however, glitches can be real {{wp|Donkey|users}}...
*{{p|Magnemite}}, when stripped of all its stupid accessories, make handy {{wp|doorstop}}s.
 
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Thank you, and have a good time editing here! --[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 01:23, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

:Thanks! ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:31, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
::No problemo and ok.'''[[User:CoolPikachu!|♫Cool]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|Pikachu]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|!♫]]'''
== Neat ==
Your sig is cool. Where'd you learn wiki coding? --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 01:36, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah your fast '''[[User:CoolPikachu!|♫Cool]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|Pikachu]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|!♫]]'''

::I used to edit frequently on Wikipedia, until the users became too elitist. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:42, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

:::Ohh I also came from there but was on it seldomly '''[[User:CoolPikachu!|♫Cool]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|Pikachu]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|!♫]]'''

== Newcomer? ==
You're new here, too? (Oh, and I got Darkrai at Toys 'R' Us. He disliked me when I first got him! Thanks for responding back.) {{ani|385}}[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 17:29, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Apparently, it looks as though you leave something whenever I leave something on the Talk pages... A stalker Darkrai hiding in the shadows, following me? Just kidding, I actually appreciate it since I just started out today. ^.^ [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 19:44, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

== Question ==

Are you willing to do more? I can't do them myself because my computer can't read Japanese, so I can't be sure with any characters I use. I want to know how you are doing it, are you just searching attacks that the Pokémon might have? because if you are, that won't work for very long. Many of the cards have weird attacks that aren't present in the games and I was just wondering if that was how you were doing it. If you don't want to do more...I understand. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:12, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:Well then, I have a long list so we might as well get started now. {{TCG ID|5th Movie Half Deck|Oakley's Ariados|1}}. I think it would be better if I just link you the picture instead of posting the picture on your talk page: [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Oakleyariados.jpg] ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:34, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

::I won't be able to do too much right now, but I will get cracking on this as soon as I have more time. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:37, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:::That is perfectly fine. Just post the attacks on my page when you finish them! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:45, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:Okay, the following might be tough with the Poké-Body in it but: [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Samiyachatot1.jpg] I do not expect you to translate it for me right now, I am dealing with the mess known as {{TCG|"PCG-P" Promotional cards}} (which this card is actually in). ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:24, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
::A new Samiya's Chatot!! [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Samiyachatot2.jpg] ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 15:53, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
::I'm not sure about the Continuous Scratch because the damage is only 20, Continuous Scratch is an attack that would have 20× instead of just 20. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:04, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Okay. I'll give it another go. It's amazing that you can get completely different results by being just one character off. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:31, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
:If you can't get it, we can move on because I put the translation notice on the page. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:40, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Can I ask you to do something different for me? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 15:29, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah, go ahead. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:54, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::I need the kanji from the name in the top left corner for each of the following:
<gallery>
Image:Normalmovie.jpg
</gallery>
Could you do that for me please? If you click on the image, it should be bigger on the Archives. (Sorry if it seems like a lot...) ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:21, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:Well I was kinda right, something with translation~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 16:22, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::YES!!! That is exactly what I need (as far as I can tell, remember, I can't read Japanese on my computer) If you can get them all, you just pulled me out the hole I was in!! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:36, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Yay! Knocked out three. Only seven left. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:40, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::Aaron and Tory have their Jap. names already, but they have additions (like last names) added onto them. They are up there because I don't know what belongs and what doesn't. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:10, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Seven down. Three more to do! ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 00:11, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

== Diamond and Pearl Poketch ==

Actually, check the game, it says that Poketch is short for Pokemon Tech. Of this I am certain as I have had this argument with a number of people and they all agree with me now. {{Unsigned|Admiralaew}}
:Quote from the father of the President on the second floor of the Pokétch Company: "Pokémon Watch! That's Pokétch for short." ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 22:56, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

::Actually, I did check the game. It says Pokémon Watch. Those that believe you when you tell them "Pokémon Tech" are {{p2|Mareep|sheep}}. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 23:17, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

:::I'm sorry, I concede. I realized what happened, basically I wasn't paying attention, stupid me, very very sorry. On a side note, I am curious as to how you create your signature. {{Unsigned|Admiralaew}}
::::For starters, sign your comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. For info on creating a custom sig, see the new {{bp|signature policy}}. It also contains rules on what you can and can't do with your sig, so read it carefully. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 23:44, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::That's basically the gist of it. Thank you, Martonimos. If you have a good grasp on wiki coding, you can create a sig that you like. It took a while for me to come up with this one, it's a altered version of my old Wikipedia signature. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:59, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

== Adminship ==

To be honest, I don't really feel like I deserve it. I'm kind of an ass on wikis. (And wasn't TTE kind of throwing power around to clean up the Capulet disaster quicker...?) Not to sound ungrateful. ;[--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 00:32, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

:I wasn't on during that fiasco, but out of all the people that were on you were one of the few that were selected. In my eyes, that counts for something. I don't think of you as being ungrateful, you're just unsure is all. Don't worry, everything will slip into place. Of this I am confident. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 03:15, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

== Cards ==

Finally, you are done, I can put you to work on something else{{tt|*|Don't worry, this next thing will be the last thing I need you to do for me for a while, I have a lot to do right now}}! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:33, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

:Okay. :D ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 03:34, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
::I need to know what the attacks off of the following are. And once again, Thank you so much!! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:39, 18 July 2008 (UTC) 
<Gallery>
Image:Ash'sTreeckocard.jpg
Image:May'sTorchiccard.jpg
Image:Brock'sMudkipcard.jpg
</gallery>
:Thank you...the attack Treecko has is most likely Tail Slap: a move that other Treecko have in the TCG. And there actually is a Water Arrow attack; so, you are correct for those. Thank you. I won't ask you to do anything for me for a while; I have about 6 sets to finish with the information that you've given me already. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:47, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

::You are welcome. Glad I could be of service. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 22:49, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

== ok? ==
ok bro i dun care if im off 1 day or 1 week i dont go on this website everyday... dont take it too hard im not cussing at u or anything im just saying that i have a life [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]

:I'm just saying that I don't care. Not to sound rude or anything. (Okay, maybe a little rude...) ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:56, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
::i ll show you rude if u want[[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]

:::Yeah, okay. I really have a lot better things to do than deal with children on the internet. Good day. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 22:56, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

== Congrats ==

Nice Job on getting ur missions accomplished, but u missed the Trozei! page itself--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 00:55, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:THUN THUN THUN!!!! ~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 00:57, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

::Got 'em. It's because I was looking for links. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 00:59, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:::hmm...~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 01:00, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

== Welcoming ==

Most of those were vandals and we don't welcome vandals. No biggie though, just remember for next time.''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:48, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

:Sorry, sometimes I get a little too carried away with my copy-and-pasting. Like I stated before, I wasn't on when that whole vandal war went down. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:12, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

== A favour to ask of you ==

Still in awe at the amount of work that has gone into the Japanese cards, I now have a bit of time to start mucking in again. You seem to be Orange's choice for help with these, and I'm in the same situation as him computer-wise, so could you help me with a card too?
This is the only one I can't find a source for, I was wondering if you could get the translation for the name and text of the second attack. I know the first attack is "Peck" and the second is "Metal"-something. I can't quite make out some characters in the text. Thanks! [[User:Nuva-kal|Nuva-kal]] 20:30, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Can you also do this as well as the kirlia...I need the kanji and translation off of this and the attack if possible. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:17, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
:Thank you! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 01:53, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
::Glad I could help. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:58, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Actually, I think the attack is "Light of Revival". Since it is an irregular attack, could you possibly translate the text? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:55, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Just trying to organize thing a bit. I need the title Kanji and the translations for the following three cards, and if you could do the effect for Celebi's Light of Revival attack, it would be appreciated but it is not necessary. Thank you. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:27, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:Actually, we finished all of those and moved on, sorry. (Or your welcome, because you no longer have to do them)
''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:05, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

== Golden Oldies ==

Sorry to bother you again, but these card articles I want to create are so old and rare, they don't have entries in the card database, and I don't have the kanji for them to translate. So I was wondering if you could get the kanji for the title and body text for the cards listed?

Secret Super Battle No. 1 [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:SecretSuperBattleNo1.jpg]

Tropical Mega Battle No. 1 [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:TropicalMegaBattleNo1.jpg]

No. 1 Trainer (2000/2001) [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:No1Trainer00.jpg]

Victory Ring [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:VictoryRingTrainer.jpg]

Victory Orb [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:VictoryOrbTrainer.jpg]

Victory Orb (Mew) [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:VictoryMewTrainer.jpg]

I know this is a rather large request, but finding out what these cards do will be a real treat for some collectors out there (me included!) Thanks. '''[[Surf (move)|~~]]''''''[[User:nuva-kal|nuva]]''''''-'''[[User_talk:nuva-kal|'''kal''']] 20:24, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

== Can you ==

translate Romanji into English? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 04:31, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:What do you have? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:08, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::Madowazu ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:32, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::Where was that taken from? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:34, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::::A game-exclusive Dark Ninetales card from the Japanese only sequal to Pokémon GB for the Gameboy Color. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:36, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::::It appears to mean "puzzlement", according to Babel Fish. I had to convert the word into Hiragana to see. I guess because it's from a game they opted not to use Kanji because it would be hard to read. Especially on a hand-held screen. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:53, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::Thank you, this means that the oldest card we don't have a page for will now get a page. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:55, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::::::I'll go get the fireworks. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:56, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::::We don't get the fireworks until every card has a page, hopefully before September 15th, with the release of POP Series 8. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:58, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::::::::I'll just hold on to them. And wait. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:02, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

===HELP===

[[Kimono Girl|Go here for an article desperately needing fixing]]--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 22:55, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

:Is it the picture alignment? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 23:12, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Kenji-girl/Archive 5

2008-09-08T22:50:10Z

$aturn¥oshi: /* That was a abuse of power */

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'''[[User:Kenji-girl|Kenji Girl]]'s talk page archives'''

[[User talk:Kenji-girl|Talk Page]] | [[User talk:Kenji-girl/Archive 1|1]] | [[User talk:Kenji-girl/Archive 2|2]] | [[User talk:Kenji-girl/Archive 3|3]] | [[User talk:Kenji-girl/Archive 4|4]]</div>
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Sorry to bother you with this but could you do something about [[CurtainShipping]]? I'm asking you because no one's responding on the talk page. I really feel the page has no importance here and it should be deleted. Could you please check the talk page on the comments made. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[User:Jmath/Sandbox|'''th''']] 18:20, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
:I don't think so. There are plenty of shippings that have less info, such as FarawayShipping, that exist. This page is better than some of the other pages created. I say it stays. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:12, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

== Making a Category ==

How do I make a Category for pages that need to exist for a certain area?--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''ュウ!''']] 01:16, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
:You have to put <code>Category:Name of category</code> in the search box. To add pages to it, go to the page you want to add and put <nowiki>[[Category:Name of category]]</nowiki> in it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:26, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
::What if the page(s) is not created yet?--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''ュウ!''']] 01:30, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Well what exactly are you trying to make a category for? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:31, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
::::Sounds dumb but I wanna make a category for pages of the Manga that need to be made (I.E.:Chapters of the P.S)--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''ュウ!''']] 01:43, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::Well, just make the category first, then make the pages I guess... --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:46, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::That will not work. The pages need to exist in order to have categories, a list would work so much better. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:01, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

== Usage of "Tachi" ==

You seemed a little confused on the meaning of "tachi" when editing [[Ash's friends]]. The narrator would not use "Satoshi-tachi" if he was only talking about Ash, he would use it when talking about Ash and his companions together. So, Ash and friends together would be "Satoshi-tachi" in the Japanese version. It is incorrect when only talking about Ash's friends and not him, yes, but it doesn't mean Ash alone. [[User:Pikapi|Pikapi]] 16:25, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

== Triathalon Pokémon ==

Should we put them as Temporary for the characters?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 18:25, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
:Remember the rules? No adding Pokémon until the episode airs. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 18:26, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Then I hand the responsibility over to you, basically nominating you for the job. I will be on a trip from Sunday-Friday, w/ no computer access--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 18:40, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

== YAY! ==

I blocked my first vandal! Oh joy! --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:39, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

:Lucky!Congratulations!--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''ュウ!''']] 04:51, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
::WOOHOO![[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Good Day;DCM]] 12:11, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

== [[Kensuke]] ==

Which group is he?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 18:25, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
:IDK... --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 18:25, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Because shouldn't he be identified in the Summer school article?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 18:27, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
:Well the groups say 'Other Trainers' so one can assume he's one of them. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 18:28, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

But we have an article for him we might as well identify him!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 18:29, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
:Well if you can figure out what group he's in... --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 18:30, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

== Kaizer->Keyser ==

Are you sure it's [[Keyser]]?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 22:26, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
:Pretty sure. I know its a name of a city. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:38, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah, but then why are there things like "Kaiser rolls". ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 22:41, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Or the synonym of emperor 'Kaiser'?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 22:42, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

And a bit off topic, would the Magikarp Salesman's Hoppip made to look like Chimecho count as cosplay?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 22:44, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
:{{tt|In my opinion yes|sorry for invading your page, Kenji}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Good Day;DCM]]
Kaiser is spelled as that, Kaiser. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 22:55, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

== "Sui" in Sweet ==

Come on, can't the writers use two puns in one name? Even though the name means "sweet", it still contains Sui, just like [[Corey|Sorao]] cointains Sora and [[Fergus|Umio]] contains Umi. It's a double pun. That's why I hate the so-called "English Romaji". It simply kills the intended meaning of names. Same goes for Alberto/Berobelt. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 19:26, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

== [[Scyther (Pokémon)|Scyther]] ==

Why did you revert my edit? [[User:Baby G|Baby G]] 21:36, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
:Look on your talk page and find out. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 21:37, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
::If that was the reason, you should've said that in your edit summary so people wouldn't have to ask you why. [[User:Baby G|Baby G]] 21:39, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
:::I said it in the Bulbasaur summery when I did the same thing there. Maybe you should ask next time. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 21:56, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

== Huh? ==
Why arent I allowed my Espeon page? Btw I like your Café Mew Mew picture great edit!(:--[[User:David aipom|Davidaipom]] 21:50, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

== Ugh... ==

I don't know what the hell I've done. {{u|Baby G}} archived [[Talk:Main Page]] the wrong way, so the revision history wasn't moved with it. I tried to fix it and ended up making the problem worse, by accidentally moving the other MP archives as well, and failed at moving the revision history. Can you help? :P --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 22:18, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

:Thanks. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 23:12, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

== [[Signature move]] ==

If a move is only a signature move if it's learned by only 1 Pokémon, {{p|Rattata}} and {{p|Raticate}} shouldn't have {{m|Hyper Fang}} and {{m|Super Fang}} as their signature moves; {{p|Spinarak}} and {{p|Ariados}} shouldn't have {{m|Spider Web}} as their signature move, etc. [[User:Baby G|Baby G]] 19:56, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

And {{m|Eruption}}, {{m|Blaze Kick}} --[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 19:57, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
:*slaps forehead* Isn't it obvious...? THE'RE RELATED. Volbeat and Manaphy ARE NOT part of the same family. That's why. --And I don't know who said that with Eruption but Blaze Kick was Blaziken's sig move BEFORE Gen IV. [[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 19:59, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
::Then Volbeat shouldn't have Tail Glow as its signature move either. [[User:Baby G|Baby G]] 20:00, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Did you not read a word I said? I put down that it was Volbeat's move BEFORE Gen IV. We did the same damn thing for a bunch of the other Pokémon. Manaphy isn't a special exception. Anyway I protect the page until you get it through your head. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:04, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
::::Yet it's '''not''' Volbeat's signature move anymore, so it shouldn't be listed. [[User:Baby G|Baby G]] 20:05, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::IT WAS AT ONE TIME. THAT'S WHY I PUT THE SPECIAL NOTE NEXT TO THE MOVE. WE HAVE THAT FOR LIKE 15 OTHER POKÉMON. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:07, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::Were those caps intentional? [[User:Baby G|Baby G]] 20:12, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Yes. They're to signify that I'm yelling at you because you're not listening... --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:13, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::::You do realize that yelling is uncivil, right? [[User:Baby G|Baby G]] 20:14, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
Oh gee I'm sorry..... Would you like a belly-rub too? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:16, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

== Ash's Primeape ==
- we need help with the Primeape pix--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 20:06, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
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But what about the Primeape pix--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 20:01, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

== [[Ash's Primeape]] ==

Why did you change the picture back? [[User:Baby G|Baby G]] 20:06, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
:The other one sucked that's why. Go find a better one and I'll put it up. I'm so sick of users fighting over stupid pictures. Why can't they do a job that hasn't been done yet? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:08, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
::But mine has a link source. [[User:Baby G|Baby G]] 20:09, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

WHO CARES?? Anyway, urs had weird pixels with discoloration--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 20:10, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
:A link source is necessary so we know exactly where it came from. [[User:Baby G|Baby G]] 20:12, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
::They are not that necessary. We take quality over source here. And you said you got it from Youtube. That's a bad source to begin with. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:40, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

== Help ==

From TTE's talk page
:@Kuki: Link sources are important so we can trace images to exactly where they came from. [[User:Baby G|Baby G]] 20:22, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

U c sumthing wrong in that post that deserves a block?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 20:42, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
:How in the world does "link sources are important so we can trace images to exactly where they came from" warrant a block? [[User:Baby G|Baby G]] 20:44, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

First sentence--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 20:45, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
:Do you mean when I said "@Kuki"? [[User:Baby G|Baby G]] 20:47, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

YES--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 23:03, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

::Baby G, why dont you leave editing the project to the edit obsessed people, or stick around to use User talk: like i do, it just ends ends in countless arguments. Im not saying this about KUKI, hes a nice guy or you or Kenj Hirl, but there are some people on here who live for an argument. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 22:30, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Excuse me? Kenji-"Hirl"? For your sake I hope that was a typo. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:34, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

== Sorry ==

Sorry for being mean. You have every piece of my respect (whatever that means) [[User:LugiaFan/FanClub|Lugia Fan Club rules!!!]]'''[[User:LugiaFan|''Lugia'']][[User talk:LugiaFan|''Rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"]]''' 22:32, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

== [[Signature move]] ==

I get what you were trying to say before, so can you please unprotect it now? [[User:Baby G|Baby G]] 15:50, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
:Why are you ignoring me? [[User:Baby G|Baby G]] 20:14, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

== Misty ==

Why are there befriended Pokemon on [[Misty|her]] page? I thought that all characters should NOT, with the exception of Max...so is it just a mistake, or is there a reason? I was just wondering because this was also a reason why {{u|Missingno. Master}} added befriended Pokemon on Ash's page, (Well, that's at least what he said} and causing it to be protected. I would also like you to take a look at {{u|TTEchidna}}'s talk page,under the title of "Protected?".--[[User:Tavisource|☆Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 00:10, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

== Platinum ==

Just a reminder, next week, when Platinum comes out, we must redo all the alt. sprites. You work on yours, TC26 will work on his, and I'll work on mine. Good Luck!--[[User:Tavisource|☆Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 00:42, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
:Actually, TTE is making a system on animated png.s, so don't do anything yet until he says so. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 01:36, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

== That was a abuse of power ==

That was an abuse of power and uncalled for. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 00:02, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
:Admins have a responsibility to prevent edit wars. Address the points we brought up on the talk page, and if you can convince her, she'll allow you to add it again. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 00:04, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
Well she was apart of this dispute so she isn't suspose to get involved as it is a conflict of interest. Another non involved admin should have been contacted. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 00:06, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
:And you shouldn't go against what an admin says. Why don't you wait until more people have a say in this? So far the vote is 2 against one. I'll unprotect it if you won't do it again. And were not going to bother other admins over something this stupid. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:09, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
You're acting in a very uncivil and unadmin like way. Regardless of how stupid you think something is you have to follow the rules like everyone else. I did the Japanese thing and everything like you mentioned and if its so stupid why ae you making such a big deal out of it weather or not it should be added that her alternative name is May Birch? [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 00:13, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
:As TTE said, we don't mention Blue as Blue Oak. Why do we have to make an exception for May. And I didn't even see you make an attempt for Brendan so why are you only focused on her? And don't preach to me about being a rule follower. I gave you a good explanation to why we shouldn't do it and you ignored me and did it anyway. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:17, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

1. Why would you protect that article's talk page

2. I wanted to wait and see how the May article went first that way you or Martonimos didn't come for the rid to get the same dispute started on two pages.

3. That still doesn't excuse tyou from breakign the rules by protecting a page yuor involved with.

4. I also took care of all the criteria that you asked for. I did the Japanese name thing just like you mentioned and everything.[[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 00:20, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

#I wasn't the one who protected the talk page. TTE did because he wanted to comment without edit conficts (that would probably qualify as an abuse of power). If you have a problem with it go yell at him.
#When an admin tells you not to do it, you should listen.
#I protected the page to prevent an edit war. That is not against the rules.
#I didn't ask for anything. I just said we'd have to mess with them and then you said we shouldn't bother with the Japanese names then I said why should we bother with English name --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:26, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

You didn't tell me not to do anything. You still broke the rule with the protecting of the page you were involved in, and why couldn't you simply just said what TTE said instead of getting an attitude and pushing a POV and getting argumentative?

I don't see how you and the other guy could get so argumentative over two extra words that are explained in the article. Common sense would tell you that if in one timeline of the game she is Birch or Odamaki, then she would gain a last name. I don't see how adding this would hurt that article and from what TTE said only up until recently another game character had a last name to them. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 00:38, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
:{{special|Platina}} was a manga character. And her first name was only recently revealed, anyway. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 00:40, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
:And just because they don't say they have a last name doesn't mean they don't. Besides, May/Brendan doesn't mention their last name, so if it's Birch, okay, but it doesn't need to be in the infobox or in the page title... especially for one who's variably related to the Professor AND the Gym Leader.
:Also, I should set off protection bombs for longer... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:44, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
::TTEchidna, this is what I think you should do...maybe instead of protecting the pages, you should block the users that disobey the rules...there's no point in stopping EVERYONE (except for admins) from editing the pages...think about justice...why should the people take punishment for someone else's actions? So what do you say?--[[User:Tavisource|☆Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 00:46, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
:::In the defense of the user who did this, I don't think that's enough to warrant a ban. It wasn't vandalism, simply something that was unwanted. Too bad there isn't a system to prevent just one user from editing a certain page. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:48, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
::::One Question, though: What if a Mod was behind the rule breaking? I mean, if it's like on Serebiiforums and Bulbagarden, if a Mod broke rules, they get away with it completely (similar to how the roman emperors/their gods got away with commiting crimes, and yet they punish mortals in the most sadistic way they can punish them?) [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 00:52, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah...too bad, but if Yami decides to start an edit war, then he/she should be blocked for causing trouble...just give it a test...do not protect it at first, and if he/she continues to change it, then you could block HIM/HER for putting stuff like that on there...it's pretty much like what Ph34 did, but less intense and much more reasonable.--[[User:Tavisource|☆Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 00:53, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
::I definitely don't think that's block-worthy. They may still have things to contribute. Protecting the page forces people to discuss the changes and possibly come to some sort of agreement, rather than just repeatedly hitting "undo." --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 00:56, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

:: for one thing travis, It wasn't a edit war, and even so that's a warning at best. Also is everyone ignoring that kenji did, even if s/he didn't try to break a rule by protecting a page in which s/he was involved with the dispute. Not to mention the general tone s/he laid down wasn't all that admin like or friendly. Also if you look at the article's history Martonimos undid the simple little addition of ''or May Birch'' and said "I agree with kenji this is stupid" not really the best of tones either.

:: That article is favoring May as the rival, which if you're going do that you might as well put Birch as a last name because of how its written (i'm not saying do it) The article should just simply say 'May is the Female gender choice for the player, and Rival to the Player if s/he chooses to play as Male (Brandon.) Cut and dry to the point and doesn't make it out like she's primarily the rival and secondly the female gender choice.

:: Another thing is that if you are worried about confusing people who may or may not have common sense, then simply write it in a way that explains it clearly.

:: Case in point all you have to do is write: "May (japanese symbols Haruka) is the female gender choice for the player, should s/he choose to play as a female. May Birch is the Rival of the player, should s/he chose to play as a male." And just switch it around some for the Brandon article.

:: The only reason i didn't try to put Brandon Birch on the Brandon article was i didn't want the same hassle i got on the may article on there. What use is it in trying fight two battles at once? [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 01:33, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

:::Stop saying we didn't warn you. We did. It was on the talk page. We said not to put it in again and you did it anyway. Again there isn't 100% prove that is her last name. Children sometimes have different last names as their parents. And Bulbapedia isn't about being friendly. It's about laying down the rules and making sure order is present. Quit expecting everyone to be nice to you. If you have a problem with the tones used than this isn't the place for you. BTW, Brendan is his name, not Brandon. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:43, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

point out where you said for me not to add that info. You go from saying "people will get confused Brandon and May are siblings," "we have to make it clear to them," "What about her Japanese name?" to "how do we know that's her name."

You're just being argumentative, unadmin like and abusing your power and fellow editors. Is this how you get your jollies, going around and start nick picking at people's additions like when you nick pick at the trivia i added to Electrode, Eggecute and Eggecutor. Then Seaking, Staryu and Starmie.

Quit expecting people to be nice to me? how about you quit being a pompous little bitch who just is bored and needs to argue just to argue, abuses the power that a site, looked down upon by wikipedia of all places, gave to her/him and trying to push people away from that site.

Was the simple addition of May Birch so horrible that you have to be a total bitch about it? What the hell you want? You want me to prove Birch would be her last name if you don't choose her to play a game 2 games out of date? [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 02:30, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
:It didn't really add much to the article aside from bytes, though. If you wanted to know her last name as the rival, you could assume by her father. While KG needed to cool it a bit around the end there, she is in the right. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:14, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

In conclusion, Norman, Birch and May's mom had a threesome and the lady gave birth to twins. Durh. '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''03:17 6 Sep 2008'''''
:What about your rival's mom...? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:25, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

::That's where twins come in. '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''03:27 6 Sep 2008'''''

Heads up. There's a discussion about this on the forum now. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 22:50, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

== ScarletShipping ==

Thanks for moving it. I realized my mistake just now and was about to move it again.--'''[[User:Diby|Di]]'''[[User talk:Diby|by]] 07:53, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

== Something that needs to be fixed ==

My old account is Babyg, which I can't get back into because I forgot my password and I have no way of retrieving it. Moldy orange suggested that I edit my old account's talk page so that it becomes an archive and I redirect my old account's talk page to my current account's talk page. However, while archiving, I did it wrong. Instead of creating [[User talk:Baby G/Archive 1]] and copying and pasting the contents of [[User talk:Babyg]] to there, I moved User talk:Babyg to User talk:Baby G/Archive 1, so the history of User talk:Babyg was not preserved. Therefore, can you delete User talk:Babyg, move User talk:Baby G/Archive 1 back to User talk:Babyg, and copy and paste User talk:Babyg's contents to User talk:Baby G/Archive 1? Sorry if this is confusing, but using MediaWiki sites can be complicated for me. [[User:Baby G|Baby G]] 23:44, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
:Just ignore this, Moldy orange explained on my talk page that I actually did it correctly. [[User:Baby G|Baby G]] 00:23, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

== When will the Protection on Misty's Page expire? ==

I wanted to know since it seems to have gone on far enough. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 19:33, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

== Pokémon Stadium 2 (stage) ==

While you get that picture, can you get a pic of the Electric Stage? That'd be nice... [[User:Ht14|ht14]] 03:12, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
:Okay. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 03:13, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
::Thank you! (Phew...I thought that that pic would never be up...) Where'd you find it, btw? [[User:Ht14|ht14]] 03:33, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
:::I took it myself. There's a program where you can convert your Brawl snapshots into jpgs. Also you can use this site: [http://www.brawlsnapshots.com/ Brawl Snapshots] --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 03:36, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

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== Favor ==

Can u please put the table on my talkpage?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 02:22, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
:Why can't you make your own table like everyone else did? Don't steal my colors though, be original with your work! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 02:25, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
::was that a reference to me from before? LOL. I changed it though as soona as you said. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 12:53, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

== More awkward translations ==

There are a few more promo translations that I need another opinion on:

'''Pokémon Pal City'''
OTA-weather player, respectively, at one time every one of their cards on a pile of bills to look at seven. In that case, the "Pokemon Basic" as much as you like to choose their own bench out. Then, the bill off the mountain.
(Bench players are not subject to this effect can not use.)
Link is [http://www.pokemon-card.com/card/details.php/card/7021]

'''Champions League'''
"Champions League" is the only money they can Champions League.
Champions League at their hand, while opponents see the other players.
Link [http://www.pokemon-card.com/card/details.php/card/7013]

'''Mysterious Pearl'''
Ura has been OMOTE his side at all, based on the throw.
NOZOMU would the Pokemon one of the other players showed, in addition to hand.
Hand made, this card is not trash, OMOTE to keep his side.
Link [http://www.pokemon-card.com/card/details.php/card/7008]

'''Miracle Diamond'''
Ura has been OMOTE his side at all, based on the throw.
NOZOMU, the "trainer card," one of the other players showed, in addition to hand.
Hand made, this card is not trash, OMOTE to keep his side.
Link [http://www.pokemon-card.com/card/details.php/card/7009]

Thanks. '''[[Surf (move)|~~]]''''''[[User:nuva-kal|nuva]]''''''-'''[[User_talk:nuva-kal|'''kal''']] 21:19, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

For some reason, I didn't realize we weren't supposed to do that.

One question, though. Since May's Combusken evolved in the dub as well, is it technically a spoiler? Because there are links to Ash's Sceptile and Swellow before they evolved. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 02:25, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
:I think it would be a spoiler, but the links to the Sceptile and Swellow shouldn't be there until they evolved, they should remain as the pre-evolved forms until the episode they actually evolved. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 02:30, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

== Hey. ==

So, I have a favor to ask. [[Template:TCG Expansions]] contains a link to <code>Vending Machine Cards (TCG)</code>, which redirects to <code>[[Vending Machine cards (TCG)]]</code>, as you pointed out to me some time ago. The thing is, it's protected, so I need an admin to relink it for me. If you're still online, will you take care of it? --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 04:12, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
:No it doesn't. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 04:14, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
::...oh. You're right. That... wow. I feel stupid now. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 04:23, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

== Certain pics ==

Could you put up some pics of Shiftry, Swalot, Blaziken and a few others on. I can't upload them, and I wnat to show my Pokemon Teams. Go to my page and go to my teams to see. {{unsigned|Pokelova}}

== "Hearthrome City" ==

Did we already have a redirect to Hearthome city, because when I tried to redirect it, it said a page already existed...or something that sounded like it existed.--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]'' 18:36, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
:I really don't know, but I do know that we don't need a redirect for a misspelling. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:40, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

== Don't worry ==

It's no biggie. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 04:31, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

== Thank you ==

Thank for the notification regarding personal images on my talk page. So I assume that [[User:Pie|Pie]]'s sprite will soon be removed as well?--Paperfairy [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Paperfairy ☆] [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Special:Contributions/Paperfairy ・] 01:54, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

That is... strange. [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Archives:Policy the archive's policy] says ''nothing'' about photographs. Could you show me some documentation to show me otherwise?Paperfairy [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Paperfairy ☆] [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Special:Contributions/Paperfairy ・] 16:48, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for clearing that up.Paperfairy [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Paperfairy ☆] [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Special:Contributions/Paperfairy ・] 20:06, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

== [[Electabuzz (TCG)]] ==

Hi, what's up? I allowed myself to go out of my turf and create this page. Anyway, I just wanted to make sure with the expert that I did everything right... --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 13:59, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

== Two more ==

pesky japanese translations for you to look over.
'''Victory Ring''' All OMOTE to his side. NOZOMU, OMOTE side of as much as you like to choose their own bills, soaking the mountain. In that case, well-cut bill to the mountain. Then, MODOSHITA the number of cards, notes from the top of the mountain, looking at OMOTE off the left side to keep Ura.
'''Victory Orb''' (without Mew) From the top of my pile of bills of seven cards. Then, I looked like a card in order to reshuffle the bill on the mountain throw.

If you need the pictures, they're on SaturnYoshi's talk page. '''[[Surf (move)|~~]]''''''[[User:nuva-kal|nuva]]''''''-'''[[User_talk:nuva-kal|'''kal''']] 15:27, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

== Ash/Gligar picture ==

I don't think you understood what Tc26 was trying to do. He replaced the episode picture for [[DP085]] with a diffent one. He tried to upload a picture of Ash's hugging Gligar under a different name but you kept deleting it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:32, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
:And now he changed it back.... --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:34, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
::Because you kept changing it and you changed it to one with a lower quality. tc26 01:35, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
:::One, I kept deleting it because, when you upload new versions, it screws up categories. Also, the title is "Wings of Friendship," I think the hug fits ''so'' much better than the new one he insists on. And, images don't always change right away, so from what I was looking at, it was still a duplicate. Furthermore, he has not been categorizing his images, making it more confusing to begin with. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 01:36, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

== help ==

may you tell user: kuki and user: Tc26 to stop changing my images i uploaded {{unsigned|Pikastorm}}

He's harassing us!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 02:07, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
:no i'm not. you started it by changing images of episodes that were the head images for a year and several months (example: the image for episode episode 22).... {{unsigned|Pikastorm}}

But they were better--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 02:14, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
:I'm no expert, but I'm on Kuki's side. But having an edit war over it isn't really helping, so have a FULL and FRANK discussion on the talk page (oh, and that means YOU'RE QUARRELING LIKE BABIES YOU FRICKIN IDIOTS! in basic language.). {{unsigned|Optimatum}}

== [[Metronome (move)]] ==

Why did you revert my edit? [[User:Baby G|Baby G]] 23:11, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
:Because is was extremely filled with fan speculation, which shouldn't ever be on Bulbapedia. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 23:12, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
::Well, don't you agree that the Igglybuff stages '''should''' be able to learn Metronome? [[User:Baby G|Baby G]] 23:13, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
:::They don't have to, they know a variety of moves that the Clefairy line doesn't. It is just fair that each get their own moves. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 23:16, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

== What? ==

It is already prepared on the archives for being the head image
What do you mean by that? tc26 00:15, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
:It has the archive's template for being the head image. That is one of the reasons why they shouldn't be changed. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 00:19, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
::So I can just add it to the other and remove the one from the one in use? tc26 00:25, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
:::No, to quote {{u|Pie}}, "When involved with a dispute with another user, it is '''''never''''' appropriate to participate in a revert war with said user. Revert wars are ugly, pointless, and clutter the database. Either work it out through discussion with the other user, or if that does not resolve anything, contact the sysops. Neither you nor the other user has the final say on which screenshot is best used as the displayed screenshot of an episode - we, the sysops, do."
:::I think that the image currently on that episode is best used. Don't change anymore without contacting one of us or suffer the consequences. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 00:48, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

== Pic Uploads ==

Thank u for all you've done for me & BP, but I'm wondering, where in the Mewtwo Returns table does the logo screenshot go?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 17:12, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

== Blank Userpages ==

Yes.[[User:Tim103093|Tim103093]] 22:00, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

== Hey. ==

You forgot to sign your latest comment on TTE's talk page.

Just returning the [[User talk:Martonimos#Talk page|favor]]. :) --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 04:35, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
:Thanks. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 04:38, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

== [[Celebi (TCG)]] ==

OK, this time I might've jumped too high, LOL. I had no idea what I was getting into... Please check it. Thanks. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 18:40, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
:Thanks :) --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 21:56, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

== [[Template:User Admin Candidate]] ==

Why change the coding from <nowiki>{{BASEPAGENAME}}</nowiki> to User Admin Candidate? --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 00:20, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
:Because I screwed it up, I think I fixed what I wanted to do now. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 01:00, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

== Celebi card ==

Buh...I'm fine if I have actual text I can copy and paste into a dictionary (kana are simple of course, but I know less than 100 kanji so far) so I can't translate the effect...but I can tell you the name of the move is "Reviving Light". I think I can kind of get the gist of the attack's effect, but I'm having some trouble. It seems that each player can take a Basic Pokémon from his discard pile and put it on the bench, but after that I get confused. Is there anyone on the wiki who's better at reading than me?--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 06:21, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
:Yes, sadly, you are the only one. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:36, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

== {{u|Jacksoniy}} ==

Shouldn't u blok him?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 21:22, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
:I'm waiting on what he does next...I'll block him now though, I guess. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 21:31, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

== Electronic Mail - Mail Sent Electronically ==

Check your e-mail. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 15:27, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

== Whitney ==

I'll finda better picture, OK?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 18:02, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
:I already looked, and this is the best possible one. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:05, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

No, there's one where he acts all cute with Pikachu that might be better, still showing her cutesie side--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 18:07, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

How about this?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 18:10, 23 August 2008 (UTC) [[Image:Whitnikachu.jpg|thumb]]
:That looks like she's trying to suffocate Pikachu j/k --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 18:11, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

:I said that I looked for one and decided that this was the best possible picture: It is colored correctly and brightly, it doesn't look blurred; this image is far superior than any other one. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:12, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

But the reason it isn't correct is because the digital animation change for episodes doesn't happen for exactly 101 episodes--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 18:14, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
:So why can't we have the digitally improved image that looks better than any other? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:17, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Here's a compromise: Put them all up!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 18:20, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
:Image flood is always bad and it looks horrible, there is a point when there are too many, and with such a small anime section, only one ''does'' suffice. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:22, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

OK, then one of mine--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 18:23, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
:Why must I repeat myself to you!?!?!? The digitally enhanced image is far superior than any one you could ever possibly upload. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:26, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Fine u win. Oh (this is if u don't decide to unprotect it now), and after tomorrow morning, u can unprotect Whitney, bcuz I'll be on a trip til Friday--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 18:28, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
:Its time will run out in a day and a half, it's not like anyone gets any new thrilling info on Whitney now anyway. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:30, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

[[Morty#In the anime|Look here]]--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 18:33, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

:Based off of Morty, we need a full body image of Whitney to put up two. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:51, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

VOILA! [[a:Image:Fullsizewhitney.png]]--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 19:01, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
:That is not even anime artwork, why have it for the in the anime section if it does not even belong? And, there will only be one image for Whitney, Morty has enough information for two, not every leader has to follow the same guidlines, not having the same makes things more diverse. Whitney gets one image, the image from the opening...end of story! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:13, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
::That is a blinding picture[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Good Day;DCM]]

== Thanks for the welcome ==

... I don't think. Instead of berating, perhaps you could have kindly explained the details I missed as a first time editor. Nevertheless, I will simply overlook your childish attitude as due to the fact that your only 16. It's time to learn some manners. [[User:Stuhacking|Stuhacking]] 22:45, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

And how old are you?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 22:46, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
:Kuki, lets stay out of this. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 22:46, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
:::May I rip him to peices?[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Good Day;DCM]]
::::Who, Me, or Kuki, or Stu??? --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 22:51, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
:Not that I see the relevance, but I'm 23. Old enough to know that everyone is new to something the first time they try it; that the best way to learn something is to jump in and do it, and when new people attempt something that I'm experienced with and they do it with enthusiasm (albeit poorly) it is better to gently point them in the right direction so that they can improve and still maintain the enthusiasm. Tearing someone apart because of a minor error is not productive. [[User:Stuhacking|Stuhacking]] 22:56, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::Actually, back on topic. The welcome should have told you exactly what I fixed and why I fixed it. And I thought yelling at you as a first time user would have been harsh, I just thought you would have paid attention to what I fixed, and learned what to do for next time. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 22:58, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
:No, u may rip him to '''pIEces'''!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 22:50, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

== Legends Awakened scans ==

Yeah, I didn't make it very clear, but judging by the [[a:Category:Legends Awakened|Legends Awakened]] category at the Archives, 81 card articles should now have images. [[User:Cipher|Cipher]] 23:16, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

== Vandalism ==

Please blok {{u|Andrewozio}}--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 13:45, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

:He's not vandalising, he just doesn't know how to do things yet. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 13:47, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

But he was told twice not to put {{an|Lucario}} as Ash's Pokémon--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 13:50, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

::Moldy's right. First revert I did I thought was vandalism, but then I realized he's just making mistakes. Wrote him a message about it. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 13:51, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

== Town and city templates ==

If we already have those, where are they? [[User:Baby G|Baby G]] 17:00, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
:You could have looked at [[Bulbapedia:List of link templates]], but [[Template:To]] and [[Template:Ci]]. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:02, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

== My Talk Page ==

Um... why did you say "too late" on my talk page? --[[User:Merodi|メロディ]][[User:Merodi/teams|'''♫''']][[User talk:Merodi|'''♪''']] 21:29, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

== The episode templates ==

Moldy, they're not more coding then writing them out. Count and check. I really wish you'd have waited for an answer before deleting them. They were more beneficial than many other link templates. They saved 4 characters on each link, which is a lot overall. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 14:01, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
:Not to mention, you forgot to remove the template from the pages linking to it. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 14:02, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
::One vertical pipe, but four "'" for ''italics''. Never mind, it's no big deal. I just think they were beneficial, or at the very least harmless. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 06:29, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
:::I don't think that makes the templates less useful. People can simply ''not'' use them in those cases. But they're still useful in most cases. Look, Moldy, I don't wanna argue with you about it. We'll have to agree to disagree. You're the sysop, so that settles the argument unless we take it to higher ranks - but there's really no point. It's meaningless. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 19:33, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

== [[Ash's Butterfree]] ==

Where does it say to have them in the order that they were used? Alphabetical order looks more organized. [[User:Baby G|Baby G]] 01:51, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

== [[Ash's Pikachu]] ==

Look at [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Ash%27s_Pikachu&diff=459829&oldid=459828 my diff]. At the bottom, I made it better organized by not having parentheses, and I put a period. You should be more careful when reverting whole edits. [[User:Baby G|Baby G]] 01:54, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
:How exactly was that better? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:37, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
::Keep it Moldy Oranges way.[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]]

== Special ==

I'm not trying to single it out in particular, it's just one of the very few translated into English and widely available on the Internet. That's all. It's the only one I can use, since I don't live in Japan or speak it. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 13:06, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

== Australian Flag ==

Can't the bigger one just be deleted, and I'll re-upload the small one? The big one isn't being used anywhere except [[Toasted TV|here]] where it looks way off. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 15:49, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
:Actually, I would prefer if you switched the small ones over to the big ones because all the big ones were already on the archives and are used on Bulbanews, even before you uploaded yours. Is the size that important? I thought that the bigger flag looked so much better and less blurred than the small flags. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 21:25, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

::Additionally, if you really want the flag to be smaller, it can be done without a smaller file. To resize an image without having to upload a new one, you can put down <nowiki>[[Image:<imagename>|<size>px]]</nowiki>, where <imagename> is the name of the image and <size> is the size of the image in pixels. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 02:04, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Yeah, but it gets more distorted then when I resize them before uploading. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 04:29, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

==silvers salamence==
why ''NOT'' [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]

:because of this thread: [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=30596] ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:13, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
::ok i get it[[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
:::could i make one for a movie character??[[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]

== Retired ==

How was it "not needed"? [[User:Baby G|Baby G]] 02:24, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
:Because it's stupid. Plus you have ABSOLUTELY NO RIGHT to touch other peoples userpages. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:28, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
::I was simply being bold, since [[user:Jonah|Jonah]] hadn't edited for 10 months. [[User:Baby G|Baby G]] 02:31, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
:::That's really none of your concern whether a user has edited recently or not. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:32, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

== OK ==

Can I have permission to change them back? Ask what was wrong with them?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 22:38, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
:You do not have permission until you show me that you know exactly what to do when you switch head images. Currently, you only did it half-assed and you haven't changed the necessary categories. To qoute {{u|Pie}} "When involved with a dispute with another user, it is never appropriate to participate in a revert war with said user. Revert wars are ugly, pointless, and clutter the database. Either work it out through discussion with the other user, or if that does not resolve anything, contact the sysops. '''Neither you nor the other user has the final say on which screenshot is best used as the displayed screenshot of an image - ''we, the sysops, do.'''''" So, until you show me that you know what to do ''and'' you actually do it correctly, you are not allowed to change any head images. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 23:14, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

I did it correcly, AND I have 2 sysops on my side--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 23:17, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

:We're not necessarily "on your side." If you do a shoddy job of it, we're most certainly ''not'' on your side. We gave you permission to change the images, but you've got to do it right. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 23:18, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

But did I or did I not do it right? If not, tell me y and I'll fix it!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 23:21, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Hello?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 23:28, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
:I wouldn't have had to yell at you if you would have done it correctly. Now, since you changed so many head images, hundreds of files on the archives either don't have the appropriate category or have the head image category when they are no longer so. Also, you hadn't always changed the full episode list to correspond with your episode changes. Make sure that every episode on the lists and every episode page have the same image. If you do these things, some of the problems you cause will be taken care of. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 00:02, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
::I won't be on for a while, so I won't be able to answer anything else until later. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 00:04, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

== [[Talk:EP006]] ==

I noticed that you deleted this page, and am pretty surprised it doesn't say anywhere on your user page that you're an admin. (I know I couldn't delete pages.) Why is that? [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 15:32, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
:Just because I refrain from editing my userpage doesn't mean I'm not an admin. I just hadn't felt like puting it up yet. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:52, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
::He's an incognito admin[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]]

== Celebi/Latios and Latias ==

Celebi: "Reviving Light" Each player may take one Basic Pokémon from his discard pile (unable to read)...(If a player's bench is full, he does nothing.) 
Latios & Latias: "Light's Guidance" ...I pretty much can't read any of it. 
Celebi's image quality is ''almost'' to the point where I can read the whole thing, but Latios & Latias's black background makes it just plain impossible.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 19:58, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

:On the Latios & Latias, try putting the image into Paint, going into "Image", and selecting "Invert Colors". It's much more readable once that's done.

:If your operating system isn't Windows, odds are your operating system's default image editor has a similar option. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 20:06, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
::Well, good news, I found the cards' pages on the Japanese branch. and they have the text right there.
::Celebi: "Both players may take one Basic Pokémon from their respective discard piles and place it on their Benches. (If a player's Bench is full, he/she does nothing.)
::Lati@s: "Choose one of the Pokémon in your '''deck''' that appears inside the circles in the above illustration and place it on the Bench. (If your Bench is full, do nothing.)"
::The "deck" in Lati@s's attack is actually "collection". I'm not sure what to make of it; I assume they were referring to the deck. Although the attack's effect as a whole is weird; I wouldn't be so surprised if the card allowed you to pull a card from outside of your deck...(as in, your "collection" in its entirety).--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 20:22, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
:::[[:ja:時を超えたセレビィ (J)]] and [[:ja:ラティアスとラティオス (J)]].--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 16:12, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

== Watermarked images ==

Would you mind restoring the watermarked image on the archive for a minute, just so I can see the problem with it and make sure not to do it again? It was a long time ago, so I don't remember... In any case, sorry about all those fiascos I've caused with my uploads. I'm not an archive guy. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 20:32, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
:No, but I can send you to an image on ebay: [http://cgi.ebay.com/Camerupt-pokemon-card-80-HP-HOLO-MINT-2-free-cards_W0QQitemZ180283036975QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item180283036975&_trkparms=72%3A1071%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A4%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14], see the suitcase in the bottom right of the image? That is the watermark. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 23:08, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

== Bad name ==

Can you temporarily restore it so I can copy its code to a document on my computer? [[User:Baby G|Baby G]] 00:27, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
:Also, just a note: Before deleting my templates, you should ask what other admins (such as TTEchidna, Politoed666, ShiningPikablu252, etc.) think about them so you will know whether or not it's a good idea to delete them. [[User:Baby G|Baby G]] 00:35, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
::MO here is an admin, im pretty sure he knows what hes doing. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:44, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
:::But he keeps deleting every template I create without giving me a warning first. I'm starting to think something's going on but I don't wanna say it 'cause it could get me blocked. [[User:Baby G|Baby G]] 02:02, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
::::What's going on is, you keep making un-needed templates. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 02:04, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

:::::The templates you're creating have little use. We do NOT need a million variations on the deletion template, we only need [[Template:Delete|the one we've got]]. How would a user who's no longer active in editing put up tags saying so, especially if that inactivity begins abruptly? Notice templates are only good if they're useful, which the ones you made were not. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 02:09, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::if someone wants to give a reason why a page should be deleted, other than it being obvious, usually, said user adds a comment below the delete template. so if i wanted one of my pages deleted, id stick the tag on it with the comment "unneeded page" and an admin would do the rest. likewise, if a page has a bad, or incorrect name, stick the template on it with a comment noting the page is spelled incorrectly. however, some spelling errors pages can get turned into redirects, so, that a possibility too. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:29, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

== Apologies ==

Sorry I haven't been much help to you in the past few weeks. My house computer became infected with a virus and Windows crashed completely. Upon re-installation I lost everything on my hard drive including the ability to see Japanese text. Now all I see are those little boxes... Hopefully I can restore it before too long. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:23, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

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Thank you, and have a good time editing here! --[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 01:23, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

:Thanks! ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:31, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
::No problemo and ok.'''[[User:CoolPikachu!|♫Cool]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|Pikachu]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|!♫]]'''
== Neat ==
Your sig is cool. Where'd you learn wiki coding? --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 01:36, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah your fast '''[[User:CoolPikachu!|♫Cool]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|Pikachu]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|!♫]]'''

::I used to edit frequently on Wikipedia, until the users became too elitist. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:42, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

:::Ohh I also came from there but was on it seldomly '''[[User:CoolPikachu!|♫Cool]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|Pikachu]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|!♫]]'''

== Newcomer? ==
You're new here, too? (Oh, and I got Darkrai at Toys 'R' Us. He disliked me when I first got him! Thanks for responding back.) {{ani|385}}[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 17:29, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Apparently, it looks as though you leave something whenever I leave something on the Talk pages... A stalker Darkrai hiding in the shadows, following me? Just kidding, I actually appreciate it since I just started out today. ^.^ [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 19:44, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

== Question ==

Are you willing to do more? I can't do them myself because my computer can't read Japanese, so I can't be sure with any characters I use. I want to know how you are doing it, are you just searching attacks that the Pokémon might have? because if you are, that won't work for very long. Many of the cards have weird attacks that aren't present in the games and I was just wondering if that was how you were doing it. If you don't want to do more...I understand. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:12, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:Well then, I have a long list so we might as well get started now. {{TCG ID|5th Movie Half Deck|Oakley's Ariados|1}}. I think it would be better if I just link you the picture instead of posting the picture on your talk page: [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Oakleyariados.jpg] ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:34, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

::I won't be able to do too much right now, but I will get cracking on this as soon as I have more time. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:37, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:::That is perfectly fine. Just post the attacks on my page when you finish them! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:45, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:Okay, the following might be tough with the Poké-Body in it but: [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Samiyachatot1.jpg] I do not expect you to translate it for me right now, I am dealing with the mess known as {{TCG|"PCG-P" Promotional cards}} (which this card is actually in). ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:24, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
::A new Samiya's Chatot!! [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Samiyachatot2.jpg] ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 15:53, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
::I'm not sure about the Continuous Scratch because the damage is only 20, Continuous Scratch is an attack that would have 20× instead of just 20. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:04, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Okay. I'll give it another go. It's amazing that you can get completely different results by being just one character off. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:31, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
:If you can't get it, we can move on because I put the translation notice on the page. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:40, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Can I ask you to do something different for me? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 15:29, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah, go ahead. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:54, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::I need the kanji from the name in the top left corner for each of the following:
<gallery>
Image:Normalmovie.jpg
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Could you do that for me please? If you click on the image, it should be bigger on the Archives. (Sorry if it seems like a lot...) ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:21, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:Well I was kinda right, something with translation~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 16:22, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::YES!!! That is exactly what I need (as far as I can tell, remember, I can't read Japanese on my computer) If you can get them all, you just pulled me out the hole I was in!! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:36, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Yay! Knocked out three. Only seven left. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:40, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::Aaron and Tory have their Jap. names already, but they have additions (like last names) added onto them. They are up there because I don't know what belongs and what doesn't. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:10, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Seven down. Three more to do! ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 00:11, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

== Diamond and Pearl Poketch ==

Actually, check the game, it says that Poketch is short for Pokemon Tech. Of this I am certain as I have had this argument with a number of people and they all agree with me now. {{Unsigned|Admiralaew}}
:Quote from the father of the President on the second floor of the Pokétch Company: "Pokémon Watch! That's Pokétch for short." ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 22:56, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

::Actually, I did check the game. It says Pokémon Watch. Those that believe you when you tell them "Pokémon Tech" are {{p2|Mareep|sheep}}. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 23:17, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

:::I'm sorry, I concede. I realized what happened, basically I wasn't paying attention, stupid me, very very sorry. On a side note, I am curious as to how you create your signature. {{Unsigned|Admiralaew}}
::::For starters, sign your comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. For info on creating a custom sig, see the new {{bp|signature policy}}. It also contains rules on what you can and can't do with your sig, so read it carefully. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 23:44, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::That's basically the gist of it. Thank you, Martonimos. If you have a good grasp on wiki coding, you can create a sig that you like. It took a while for me to come up with this one, it's a altered version of my old Wikipedia signature. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:59, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

== Adminship ==

To be honest, I don't really feel like I deserve it. I'm kind of an ass on wikis. (And wasn't TTE kind of throwing power around to clean up the Capulet disaster quicker...?) Not to sound ungrateful. ;[--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 00:32, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

:I wasn't on during that fiasco, but out of all the people that were on you were one of the few that were selected. In my eyes, that counts for something. I don't think of you as being ungrateful, you're just unsure is all. Don't worry, everything will slip into place. Of this I am confident. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 03:15, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

== Cards ==

Finally, you are done, I can put you to work on something else{{tt|*|Don't worry, this next thing will be the last thing I need you to do for me for a while, I have a lot to do right now}}! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:33, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

:Okay. :D ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 03:34, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
::I need to know what the attacks off of the following are. And once again, Thank you so much!! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:39, 18 July 2008 (UTC) 
<Gallery>
Image:Ash'sTreeckocard.jpg
Image:May'sTorchiccard.jpg
Image:Brock'sMudkipcard.jpg
</gallery>
:Thank you...the attack Treecko has is most likely Tail Slap: a move that other Treecko have in the TCG. And there actually is a Water Arrow attack; so, you are correct for those. Thank you. I won't ask you to do anything for me for a while; I have about 6 sets to finish with the information that you've given me already. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:47, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

::You are welcome. Glad I could be of service. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 22:49, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

== ok? ==
ok bro i dun care if im off 1 day or 1 week i dont go on this website everyday... dont take it too hard im not cussing at u or anything im just saying that i have a life [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]

:I'm just saying that I don't care. Not to sound rude or anything. (Okay, maybe a little rude...) ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:56, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
::i ll show you rude if u want[[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]

:::Yeah, okay. I really have a lot better things to do than deal with children on the internet. Good day. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 22:56, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

== Congrats ==

Nice Job on getting ur missions accomplished, but u missed the Trozei! page itself--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 00:55, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:THUN THUN THUN!!!! ~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 00:57, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

::Got 'em. It's because I was looking for links. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 00:59, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:::hmm...~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 01:00, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

== Welcoming ==

Most of those were vandals and we don't welcome vandals. No biggie though, just remember for next time.''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:48, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

:Sorry, sometimes I get a little too carried away with my copy-and-pasting. Like I stated before, I wasn't on when that whole vandal war went down. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:12, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

== A favour to ask of you ==

Still in awe at the amount of work that has gone into the Japanese cards, I now have a bit of time to start mucking in again. You seem to be Orange's choice for help with these, and I'm in the same situation as him computer-wise, so could you help me with a card too?
This is the only one I can't find a source for, I was wondering if you could get the translation for the name and text of the second attack. I know the first attack is "Peck" and the second is "Metal"-something. I can't quite make out some characters in the text. Thanks! [[User:Nuva-kal|Nuva-kal]] 20:30, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Can you also do this as well as the kirlia...I need the kanji and translation off of this and the attack if possible. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:17, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
:Thank you! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 01:53, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
::Glad I could help. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:58, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Actually, I think the attack is "Light of Revival". Since it is an irregular attack, could you possibly translate the text? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:55, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Just trying to organize thing a bit. I need the title Kanji and the translations for the following three cards, and if you could do the effect for Celebi's Light of Revival attack, it would be appreciated but it is not necessary. Thank you. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:27, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
<gallery>
Image:Celebi J promo.jpg
Image:SoulDew.jpg
Image:AltoMareTM.jpg
</gallery>

== Golden Oldies ==

Sorry to bother you again, but these card articles I want to create are so old and rare, they don't have entries in the card database, and I don't have the kanji for them to translate. So I was wondering if you could get the kanji for the title and body text for the cards listed?

Secret Super Battle No. 1 [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:SecretSuperBattleNo1.jpg]

Tropical Mega Battle No. 1 [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:TropicalMegaBattleNo1.jpg]

No. 1 Trainer (2000/2001) [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:No1Trainer00.jpg]

Victory Ring [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:VictoryRingTrainer.jpg]

Victory Orb [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:VictoryOrbTrainer.jpg]

Victory Orb (Mew) [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:VictoryMewTrainer.jpg]

I know this is a rather large request, but finding out what these cards do will be a real treat for some collectors out there (me included!) Thanks. '''[[Surf (move)|~~]]''''''[[User:nuva-kal|nuva]]''''''-'''[[User_talk:nuva-kal|'''kal''']] 20:24, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

== Can you ==

translate Romanji into English? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 04:31, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:What do you have? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:08, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::Madowazu ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:32, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::Where was that taken from? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:34, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::::A game-exclusive Dark Ninetales card from the Japanese only sequal to Pokémon GB for the Gameboy Color. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:36, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::::It appears to mean "puzzlement", according to Babel Fish. I had to convert the word into Hiragana to see. I guess because it's from a game they opted not to use Kanji because it would be hard to read. Especially on a hand-held screen. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:53, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::Thank you, this means that the oldest card we don't have a page for will now get a page. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:55, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::::::I'll go get the fireworks. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:56, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::::We don't get the fireworks until every card has a page, hopefully before September 15th, with the release of POP Series 8. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:58, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::::::::I'll just hold on to them. And wait. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:02, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

===HELP===

[[Kimono Girl|Go here for an article desperately needing fixing]]--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 22:55, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

:Is it the picture alignment? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 23:12, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Talk:First partner Pokémon/Archive 1

2008-08-26T17:53:23Z

$aturn¥oshi: /* Obediance */

==Normal Starters==
Should Pikachu be considered a 'normal' starter? I mean, it isn't part of the Fire/Water/Grass triangle, and it can also be captured in the wild in many of the other games, something that no other starters have right now. It's also the starter only in one game (although, so have Colosseum Starters, XD Starter, and Ranger Starter). --[[User:PikamasterADV|PikamasterADV]] 12:01, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
:Well, why not? The fact it is not part of the triangle does not disqualify him as a starter Pokémon. If we had a Dark/Fighting/Psych triangle, wouldn't still they be starters? Also, the Fire/Grass/Water triangle is already broken is some cases, like the 4th generation starters having second types after they evolve. In any case, he is undoubtedly a starter in the ranks of Squirtle and Charmander. He is given out by a professor (and our very original professor Oak in his case), is given in one of the "main" games of the series, and is a basic Pokémon. --[[User:Andrelvis|Andrelvis]] 15:53, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
::Well, don't forget that also, pretty much every starter gets a second type through evolution. Only ones who don't are Squirtle, Chikorita, Cyndaquil, Totodile, and Treecko. Hell, Bulbasaur has two types in its basic form.
::And I think the division's more on the games that are defined as the main RPG series vs the side games. After all, Pichu makes Pikachu a stage 1 now, in all technicalities. But, of course, Yellow is just as much a main game as Red, Blue, and Green are, unlike Colosseum and XD compared to Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald, even though all of them are RPGs. [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 01:02, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
:::Exactly. And that's why we have the "special starters" section. They are starters, but not as much so as the "main game" ones. --[[User:Andrelvis|Andrelvis]] 17:37, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
::::But they're not special per se. They're just... not mainstream. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 17:56, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

== Shiny Starters ==

Is it possible to get a shiny starter? - [[User:Theryguy512|Ryguy]] 4:07, 02 August 2007 (GMT)
:Yes, but it's just as rare as seeing one in the wild. --[[User:Fragment|Fragment]] 15:16, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

== To add to Trivia ==

I noticed this. Of the Grass starters up to and including Generation IV, all of the final forms have eight-letter English names. Venusaur, Meganium, Sceptile, and Torterra.
:Hmmm. Well, it's interesting, but the trivia section's already huge! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 09:22, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

== To Remove from Trivia ==
"Usually upon evolution, the starter Pokémon gain another type. However, Blastoise, the three Johto starters' final forms (Meganium, Typhlosion, and Feraligatr), and Sceptile do not have a second type." This quote is not very accurate. The trivia itself lists 5 out of the 12 final evolutions of the main series' starters that don't gain a new type (technically it should be 6 of 13 because of [[Pikachu]]; which while it can't evolve in Yellow still does in every other version). 5 out of 12 is about 42%; which means that "usually" is used to define an occurance rate barely over 50% and is like saying Pokemon split equally into both [[gender|genders]] are "usually" one over the other. Additionally, only 6 of the 13 (about 46%) main series staters actually gain a new type out of evolution, as [[Bulbasaur]] starts with the {{type2|Poison}}. I'm not sure if complete removal of this trivia is called for, but it definitely needs to be reworded. --[[User:ZellMurasame|ZellMurasame]] 05:15, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
:That's an overinspective technicality... but sure, it should be reworded if that's statistically the case. Just make sure not to link species with square brackets, man. The {{template|p}} template is there for use, especially with the starters and their families... all of which have appeared owned by a main anime character... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 08:57, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

==Pikachu==

Just saying buy uh.. You guys but every Pokemon's evolutions in the normal games. But not Pikachu's in Pokemon Yellow?
:Pikachu can't evolve in Yellow. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 04:16, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

== Colosseum elemental starters ==

Even though you can get the remaining two at the end of the game, let's not forget that Bayleef, Quilava, and Croconaw are somewhat "starter" Pokémon in Pokémon Colosseum, since you need to snag one of them at the beginning of the adventure. Maybe they're like Eevee's evolutionary stones or shards in that their availability isn't immediate... However, one of the things that make them non-traditional starters is that the game doesn't explicitly ask you "you want this Pokémon, or this one, or this one?". --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 03:07, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

== Obediance ==

I seem to recall that in the main series, a Starter Pokémon will always obey even if its level surpasses the mark of a required Gym Badge. Has anyone else experienced this? If so, should it be added to the article somewhere? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:37, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

All Pokémon caught by the trainer will, they wont obey if they have been received in a trade.[[User:David aipom|Davidaipom]] 19:39, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

:The page on [[Badge]]s does not make that distinction. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:48, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
::well that's how it works --lord mada 19:50, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

:::So what you're saying is that if a player was able to start a new game and somehow "catch" a Level 70 Pokémon right off the bat, it will obey? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:54, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
::::yeah I'm pretty sure --lord mada 19:55, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

:::::Interesting... Well then, disregard. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:57, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::Yes but dont forget that's very unlikely in the main series. [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]

:::::::Unlikely, but possible. Especially with an Action Replay. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:53, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

== Trivia overload? ==

Don't get me wrong, I always love a lot of additions to the trivia section, but even now it seems like it's way too much. We might want to cut back on some more esoteric things, and group the move pattern observations together. [[User:Toastypk|'''''~Toastypk''''']] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|'''Loom.''']] 17:41, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
:Maybe it would be possible to encorporate some of the more anime-exclusive trivia into the anime section and likewise for game-exclusive, and only put overall trivia at the bottom. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:45, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Arceus (Pokémon)/Archive 1

2008-08-26T17:49:22Z

$aturn¥oshi: /* Moves */

Um, {{u|TTEchidna}}, you put down that Arseus can become an ???-type Pokémon by holding a ??? Plate. Where'd you get that from?--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 21:35, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Man u have got to be kidding me Arceus catch rate should not be 3. I used my Action replay to get the item 4 arceus then i went and caought it on my 5th dusk ball. My friend caought it on him 1st ultra ball. Another friend i gave the item 2 caught it on his 2nd qiuck ball.
:Man, you have to be kidding me, you can't even spell the word "you" right. Arceus's catch rate is 3. If you'll notice, those balls multiply the catch rate formula by quite a bit, which greatly increases the chance to be caught. Plus, it's all on luck, I've had Magikarp break out of balls before. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 22:36, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

I added an alternative origin to Arceus's name that I found on: http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=286767.[[User:Draconium|Draconium]] 23:42, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

==Is there a point...==
Is there a point of having a table for each of the plates when it is attached to Arceus?
We could just have Arceus without a plate, and then have each title with an image and a sentence saying what type Arceus changes to.
For Example:

==Type effectiveness==
[[Image:493Arseus.png|thumb|right|Sprite for {{type2|Normal}} Arceus]]
===No plate equipped===
{{DP type effectiveness|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=200 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 0 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}
[[Image:Spr 4d 493-Fire.png|thumb|right|Sprite for {{type2|Fire}} Arceus]]
===With Flame Plate===
When the Flame Plate is attached to Arceus, it becomes a Fire type.

etc... [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 23:06, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

==Picture==
I have this picture:

[[Image:Arceus.PNG]]

I did not draw it. I want to use it on the page. It is much better than trying to stare at a tiny sprite. --[[User:Stinkoman|Stinkoman]] 15:08, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

:Better than a sprite for sure, but it'd be nice if we could find one without such bad compression artifacts. [[User:Invisible Shiny Bulbasaur|Invisible Shiny Bulbasaur]] 22:30, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
::I don't think we should really be using an unofficial image for the page. What would be nice is if somebody could get a nice, high-quality (as in NOT a photo of the monitor) screenshot of ARceus from PBR.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 01:22, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
:::You mean hack an Arceus and copy it into PBR?
[[Image:Psychic-attack.png|Psychic]][[Image:Ani475MS.gif]] '''[[User:Optimus35|Agent]] [[Gallade (Pokémon)|448]][[User talk:Optimus35|Talk]] | [[User:Optimus35/Diamond&Pearl|DP]]''' [[Image:Fighting-attack.png|Fighting]] 11:46, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

== Sprites? ==

Should we include separate sprite templates for all of the forms, or just do it for one? I know that Unown and Castform, among others, would serve the same problem. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 22:10, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

== Art?! ==

I'd like to know the source of Arceus' picture. Mainly because it hasn't been revealed yet. TinaTheKirlia 02:44, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
:It's a piece of fanart. --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 02:47, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
::That's what I thought, although there was an edit that said "Official Art" or something and it was rather confusing. TinaTheKirlia 16:29, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
I think we should replace that art with a sprite. It seems inaccurate... Mariocaper 19:19, 20 September 2007

Yeah, and we could enlarge the size of the sprite so it won't be that tiny anymore, right? [[Image:Psychic-attack.png|Psychic]]http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani475.gif '''[[User:Optimus35|Optimus35]][[User talk:Optimus35|Talk]] | [[User:Optimus35/Diamond&Pearl|DP]]''' [[Image:Fighting-attack.png|Fighting]] 06:45, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
:Enlarged sprites look terrible. --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 06:49, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
::Couldn't we get a PBR screenshot? And I mean a screenshot, not someone pointing their camera at a television? (We need that for Rosy and Sashay, too...)--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 07:13, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
::I can't, my FRAPS only works on full screen games like Maple Story...I think we could take the Arceus photo, enlarge it and sharpen it a little, then put it back on bulba. The only problem with this is that the sprite would be oversize...
:::I hope that you have permission to use that piece of fan art. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]][[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]] 21:27, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
::::I've got five PBR shots. They're all in my [[User:Optimus35/Sandbox|sandbox]]. Click on the links under 'Arceus'. Tell me which one looks best on my talk page and I'll upload it onto Bulbagarden Archives...[[Image:Ani475MS.gif]] '''[[User:Optimus35|Agent]] [[User:Optimus35/Mission|4]][[User:Optimus35/Emerald|4]][[Gallade (Pokémon)|8]][[User talk:Optimus35|δ]] | [[User:Optimus35/Diamond&Pearl|DP]]''' | [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?limit=50&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Optimus35&namespace=0&year=&month=-1 ☆][[Image:Ani282MS.gif]] 09:01, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Change the pic!
[[User:Crystallucario|Crystallucario]] 14:54, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
:The reason why we're not changing it is because it's nicely done fanart, and it's more easier to look at this instead of a sprite.
:Otherwise it'd be absolute hell for me to draw Arceus. Still is, but certainly more easier than looking at a sprite. :p [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 16:40, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
hmmm maybe ok whatever...
[[User:Crystallucario|CrystalLucario 12:23, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
::...except, do we have permission to use the image? The image page doesn't seem to claim it at all, so I'm going to go ahead and guess that we're doing something illegal or at least unethical here. Seriously, why can't we just use a PBR shot?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 00:58, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Since when was pokemon ever ethical? Think about it, the aim of the game is to run away from home at 10 years old (good parenting skills mom) and after having abuse a poor little starly to the brink of death by slashing it over and over again with false swipe you throw something at it, only adding to the poor creature's pain and torture only to trap it inside a small, cramped chamber for the rest of its unnatural life whilst using it to abuse other pokemon. But anyways I digress, the point is the piece of fanart looks nice, is accurate and fits in perfectly with all the official pokemon artwork. Hell when I first visited the page I thought it WAS a piece of official artwork. A PBR snapshot would not be at all as effective as the fanart. So no, we ain't havin a PBR shot. [[User:Wikid|Wikid]] 16:20, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

::::No one is questioning the ethics of the series, just in using someone else's work without their consent. Besides, the face is drawn wrong. There should be more lines running across it. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:28, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

== Metronome ==

My Mew used Judgement through Metronome. Should I include something like this under "Trivia":

Although Nintendo is attempting to keep Arceus secret, it is possible for Arceus's signature move, {{m|Judgment}}, to be used through {{m|Metronome}}, thus potentially revealing the existence of Arceus to otherwise unaware fans.

--[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]][[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Shiny Noctowl|Contribs]][[Image:Ani480MS.gif]] 20:33, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

i could draw arceus if that would help. i like drawing pokémon. [[talonclawz]] new comer!!!!!!!!!! [[Image:Ani444MS.gif‎]]

== Shishigami? ==

Should any mention of the Forest Spirit Shishigami from Miyazaki Hayao's Mononoke-Hime be mentioned in the article? Arceus seems to have a resemblance to Shishigami. In addition, on the illegal hacked Pokémon Diamond (Telefang Power), Shishigami appears on the front, despite not having anything to do with the game (that's the way those criminals work), and then in the real Pokémon Diamond, Arceus was added. Does anyone else think that some trivia should be added about this? ~Kumori Satosuke
:Outside of the whole quadrupedal thing, I don't think there's anything else that's official to suggest a connection. For example, Arceus seems to be nothing outside of a creator, while shishigami is given dominion over life and death.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 03:27, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, I agree. There really isn't anything linking the two other than a vague (And I do mean VAGUE.) resemblance. --[[User:Dual|Dual]] 14:15, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

== ??? type sprite may prevent crash ==
Just a theory, but the programmers at Game Freak may have drawn and programmmed a ??? type Arceus to prevent game crashes. Anyone with a code patcher can figure out how to change a Pokémon's type. They might have figured that someone would tamper with Arceus's type, and if they changed it to a ??? type, and there was no sprite for it, the game would crash because it would try loading data that does not exist. That's my theory anyway. [[User:Fsilone|Fsilone]] 02:10, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:That's really logical. figure that by yourself? But I still don't know if we should put that in the article.[[Image:Ani471MS.gif]][[User:Pokemaniac102|'''Poke''''''maniac''''''102''']][[Image:AniEggMS.gif]] 02:17, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

::im a little iffy on the grammer, but other than that i think its a fantastic theory and should be in the trivia section. excellent. now all i need to do is figure out how to do it myself in my game with the Action Replay... [[Image:Ani081MS.gif|35px]][[User:MAGNEDETH|MAGNEDETH]][[Image:Ani082MS.gif|35px]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|TALK]][[Image:Ani462MS.gif|35px]] 02:30, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

:::You can't - you need to edit the rom data - action replay only edits temporary and save data. Think so anyway. '''[[:User:Origamiguy|折り紙ガイ]] - [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|離す]][[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|貢献]]''' 15:37, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

I think I don't see anything grammatically wrong. I copied the words above and reworded it into sentences.[[Image:Ani471MS.gif]][[User:Pokemaniac102|'''Poke''''''maniac''''''102''']][[Image:AniEggMS.gif]] 02:34, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

:yea, im probibly wrong, im not joking when i say i failed english class......twice...with a 54..... [[Image:Ani081MS.gif|35px]][[User:MAGNEDETH|MAGNEDETH]][[Image:Ani082MS.gif|35px]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|TALK]][[Image:Ani462MS.gif|35px]] 03:42, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

what the heck is shishigami? is it a pokémon?(someone out there?) [[-talonclawz]] new comer!!!!! [[Image:212MS.gif]] 1:06, 5 April 2008

No. Wait a minute if you don't know that Errr...how new are you to Pokémon?[[User:Crystallucario|'''''Crystal''''']] [[User talk:Crystallucario|'''''Lucario''''']] 17:43, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

A shishigami is a Japanese god of death. [[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 14:51, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

== {{type2|???}} Sprite ==

[[Image:Question-Type Arceus Before.jpg|thumb|left|Before]][[Image:Question-Type Arceus After.jpg|thumb|right|After]]How long has the sprite of ???-type Arceus been pulling that vanishing act? Basically, the only time you can see the sprite is when the white background on PNG-format images is still visible, as seen in the Before shot. Once the white backgrounds vanish, the rest of the sprite should still be there. However, on ???-type Arceus, the sprite vanishes along with the background, as seen in the After shot. Is there a way to fix this?

(The shots in question come from an area of my own user page, specifically a [[Template:User Favorite Move|favorite move tag]] programmed for a ???-type move and {{m|Curse}} with the Arceus sprite in question for a laugh. The [[Template:User 2000|2000-edits in a month tag]] above it is also shown for comparison.) --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 05:41, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

:Wow. That's weird that it just disappears! --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Sandbox|2]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 11:59, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
I think I figured out the vanishing act. It's due to the filename. Many operating systems don't allow question marks in filenames, and it's probably due to those that caused the image to vanish. I went and uploaded an image to [[a:Image:Spr 4d 493-Unknown.png|Image:Spr 4d 493-Unknown.png]] on the archives, and that image works as it should! Every instance of the vanishing image has been changed to the one that doesn't vanish, so you won't be seeing vanishing ???-type Arceus again anytime soon. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:37, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

== Pic ==

Okay, I remember {{u|Urutapu}} saying something about a screenshot of Arceus from PBR. Well, I got a Wii ''and'' PBR for Christmas. And I have *cough*cheated*cough* four Arceuses. All I need now is a good-quality emulator that can screenshot my Wii with. Any suggestions?
--{{u|Stinkoman}}

Somehow theres a way of putting a SCART socket into your PC and running it through that. My mate's computer can do that but i think it had the socket when he bought it. [[Image:Ani258MS.gif]][[User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]] Lieks [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Mudkipz]][[Image:Ani258MS.gif]]

== Officially been revealed ==
Until this Pokemon has been officially revealed (by Nintendo or Coro Coro magazine) this page should be removed, because the only reason why there is proof of its existence is through a hacking or cheating device.
:WHAT! This page should be included on here. If it is in the Game, weather or not if it has been reaveled, it IS STILL IN THE GAME WITHOUT HAVING TO BE MADE{{Ani|493}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']]{{Ani|491}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|''' Is''']]{{Ani|426}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]{{Ani|473}}
::Yea, this page is about a Pokémon. In case you don't know (hopefully you do), this is a Pokémon encyclopedia. This page is like mandatory. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 02:12, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Exactly. We have pages for all Pokémon ''officially programmed into the games''. Would you come here before Deoxys was revealed and say "NUH UH THERE'S ONLY 201 IN HOENN DEOXYS IS A HAKKER ONLY POKEMAN." Arceus is official, they're just holding off on the official revelation. Besides... plenty of Pokémon from each generation were never revealed through CoroCoro or by Nintendo individually. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 07:07, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

I may only be 10, but take it from me. Arceus is real. It is on pokemon.com's pokedex.[[User:DaPikanator56|DaPikanator56]] 18:47, 22 March 2008 (UTC){{u|DaPikanator56}}
:Well, actually, it's not on the PokéDex on [[Pokemon.com]], but yes, it is real. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 13:17, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
::An example of what TTE said would be the Porygons. '''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]02:32 30 Mar 2008'''

Oh yeah! It and ummm... {{p|Shaymin}} I think aren't Theryguy.[[User:DaPikanator56|DaPikanator56]] 18:52, 30 March 2008 (UTC){{u|DaPikanator56}}
:Shaymin has been acknowledged by official Japanese sources. And to address the original point, we are not Wikipedia. Everyone knows that Arceus is real, so this page is a necessity. Hell, we have articles for a lot of glitch Pokémon so a real one definately passes. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 23:52, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

True...Oh, and by the way, in the summer I will shorten my visits here, but this place rules! It ain't demented like Chuckie Cheese's.
:) ^-^[[User:DaPikanator56|DaPikanator56]] 22:31, 3 April 2008 (UTC)DaPikanator56

==Picture==

I found this picture interesting, but low quality. [http://www.pokebeach.com/news/0507/arceus.jpg its on www.pokebeach.com] --[[User:Britannia's Blade|Britannia's Blade]] 21:25, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:Good find, but it's already linked from the article [[Arceus (Pokémon)#External links|right here]]. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 23:38, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

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I also just found this one [http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/arceus.png ****] Fan art of course but very serious looking, Lots more like it [http://www.arkeis.com/legendaries.htm here] what do you think? --[[User:Britannia's Blade|Britannia's Blade]] 18:47, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
:I don't see how fanart is very notable to put up here.. >_> [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 19:06, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
::The one we have right now will do us until Arcy is revealed next year. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:37, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
:::What about this one? - [http://www.pokebeach.com/news/0507/arceus2.jpg (1)] '''[[:User:Origamiguy|折り紙ガイ]] - [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|離す]][[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|貢献]]''' 15:45, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
::::-Gasp- Why not that one! Ooo, take it! TAKE IT!!! '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Optimatum</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''13:53 2 May 2008'''''
TTE, Arceus isn't going 2 be revealed 4 two years yet. [[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 14:53, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

==Arceus and Giratina==
Aren't Arceus and Giratina sort of opposites of each other because Arceus is God and Giratina is the devil sort of, I mean Arceus didn't create Giratina so that means they were the two entities before time started. [[User:Big Johnno|Pokémon Master]] 17:46 15 May 2008
:Maybe you're right, but i think that Giratina is part of the Dragon Trio. [[User:Arceausams|Arceausams]] 23:37, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
::Giratina is the BOSS! It saved the two other Pokamon! Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''01:04 17 May 2008'''''
:Hold on, there's no reason to get angry. Why can't we just WAIT until Arceus is officially revealed? Isn't that BETTER than argueing? [[User:Arceausams|Arceausams]] 23:37, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

In my eyes it would be

Dialga + Palkia = Rivals (Time VS Space)

Giratina + Arceus = Rivals (God VS Darkness?)

So yeah, regardless of the fact Giratina is part of the Dragon Trio.
(''Thinking about it, those four are exactly the same as my characters |: Lily = Controls Time. Darkness = Controls Space. Akito = Controls Death. Rose = Controls Life/Is a sort-of God. But anyway, my characters are irrelevant too this xD'') [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 14:37, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
:So, Arceus is God/JesusHoly Spirit, and Giratina is Satan? O.O It's Da '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''06:03 26 May 2008'''''
::Arceus is Arceus. Giratina is Giratina. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:02, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Meh, that's the Atheist way of seeing it. Hey, wait, am I about to be stone for being anti-atheist? Damn. It's Da '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''07:13 26 May 2008'''''
::::I didn't say Giratina was Satan, i simply said he was...darkness. [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 02:05, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
My question is, how do you KNOW Giratina is bad, or if Arceus is even good? How do you KNOW Giratina wasn't created by Arceus? You don't. Besides, Neither ot them are from Christianity, and U know what? I'm a devout Christian and I don't care if Arceus wasn't based off of my God. [[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 14:56, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
:Does anybody want to see it this way, "WE SHOULD ALL JUST WAIT"? [[User:Arceausams|Arceausams]] 22:06, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
::I don't think Giratina is evil. You don't have too be evil/whatever to control darkness/whatever Giratina controls. I do not think Giratina is evil! [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 22:22, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
:Is this text INVISIBLE? WE SHOULD ALL JUST WAIT! [[User:Arceausams|Arceausams]] 00:28, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

== More sprites ==

Ok, so we have all the type sprites for Arceus and it's shiny sprite, but we don't have shiny forms for Arceus' other types. Could someone please tell me if it's possible to get those sprites and if so get them for us? [[User:Arceausams|Arceausams]] 12:08, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
:If i could, i would, but i can't, so i can't help you. I'm not even 100% sure Arceus's other-type sprites HAVE shiny versions of them :| [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 14:27, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
::They do. And a simple method is to color the sprites the right color. The white portion of the body is the only part which remains constant throughout the non-shiny forms. and when it becomes shiny, the rings are the same color as those of the non-shiny ones. The only thing that differs between non-shiny and shiny is the white portion, which turns yellow. It's Da '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''06:01 26 May 2008'''''
:So... could you do that for us as a favor? [[User:Arceausams|Arceausams]] 22:02, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
::I might have those sprites on my computer somewhere. Want me to upload them? [[User:Yinyang1195|Yin]][[User talk:Yinyang1195|Yang]] 20:05, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
:::I don't see why not other than you apperently not knowing where they are. And someone PLEASE get rid of that fan artwork, it's unofficial up here! [[User:Arceausams|Arceausams]] 22:58, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
::::Helloooooooooooooooo, its been 2 weeks. Are you going to respond? [[User:Arceausams|Arceausams]] 19:00, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
::::HURRY UP ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [[User:Arceausams|Arceausams]] 15:49, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

== Metronome and Judgement ==

If a player knows nothing about Arceus, how would they know that Judgement is its signature attack? Even if it is used by a Pokémon using Metronome. So could Metronome really spoil the surprise? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 02:50, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:Not really. ^^; Metronome can do ANYTHING. Even Explosion so...'''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''02:54 4 Jun 2008'''''
::Well, if they were like "Ooh, what learns that?!" and can't find anyone, they'll suspect it to be some crazy legendary not yet shown. And have lived under a rock since EVERYONE KNOWS OF ARCEUS. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:03, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Hmm, then Singapore must be under a rock. Only two people I know know what's Arceus, that includes me. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''03:12 4 Jun 2008'''''
::::Or this is nintendo's way of teasing us. kinda like,
Player:"What pokémon learns this?"
Nintendo:"Wait and see"
Player:"You suck."[[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 12:39, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I only ask because of this quote in the trivia:

"''Although Nintendo is attempting to keep Arceus secret, it is possible for Arceus's signature move, Judgment, to be used through Metronome, thus potentially revealing the existence of Arceus to otherwise unaware fans.''"

Plus, Nintendo ''has'' to know that the majority of their fanbase uses the internet. Every Pokémon website except the "official" ones have info on Arceus. A lot of them even before the games were released globally. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:57, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:The majority of the fanbase are kids who don't necessarily visit fansites. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 16:02, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
::No ([[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 16:03, 4 June 2008 (UTC))
:::Yes. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 16:04, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
::::No ([[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 16:05, 4 June 2008 (UTC))

:::::I would have to disagree with that statement. I believe that most fans may have been kids at the beginning when Pokémon first came out, but now have grown as the series has. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:18, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

A similar thing happened to me when I was playing PBR. I ordered my Togepi to use Metronome and out came Judgment. I wondered what Pokémon used this move until I checked this site and I found Arceus. I didn't even know about its existence AT ALL when Metronome was used that one year ago... {{ani|385}}[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 18:01, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

== Arceus's pattern in the anime? ==

I didn't get a second look (mainly because I deleted the episode from my DVR), but I heard in the episode "Journey to the Unknown!" that Saturn was holding a cube with Arceus's pattern on it... [[User:ShinyRayquaza|ShinyRayquaza]] 19:35, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

== Arceus + Sky Plate? ==

If you attach a Sky Plate to Arceus, wouldn't that make it become the first pure Flying-type Pokémon? [[User:Wynautluvr|Wynautluvr]] 16:53, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

:It is the first "permanent" pure Flying-type. The Porygon line can become Flying-types with their Conversion moves, and Kecleon can with its Color Change Ability. These Pokémon, however, revert back to Normal when the battle is over. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:56, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

::It's not permanent, in that you can change the plate and it loses the pure-flying status... '''[[:User:Origamiguy|Lord]] of [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Ori]][[Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|gami]]''' 15:16, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
:::It's permanent in that it doesn't go away just because the battle ends. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:46, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
::::No its not. Its only a permanent flying type if its natural type (i.e. no plate) is flying. You might as well say its also the first permamnent ??? type since it can become that (potentially) too.[[User:Wikid|Wikid]] 16:43, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::If you never remove the plate, then it's permanent. Plus, you can't obtain a ???-type Arceus in-game in any normal fashion. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:45, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::: Says you. firstly, the word permanent implies that the typing can never be changed. If you unequip the plate Arceus goes back to normal therefore it's not permanent. At best I would say its semi-permament. Secondly, there might a ??? plate given out at an event or found somewhere in platinum like Glacidia's flower. ??? forme arceus might be the result when you enter the torn world with arceus. It might even be what Arceus looks like when it is a shadow pokemon as there might be a new game coming out to do with shadow pokemon and DPP might be the first generation where you can trade shadow pokemon over. Therefore if you can trade it as shadow poke between DP and platinum then there is a way to get an ??? forme Arceus in a normal fashion.[[User:Wikid|Wikid]] 17:21, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Fine. "Semi-permanent". ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:24, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

== The ??? Plate ==

The ??? Plate exists, It is named mysterious plate by CodeJunkies, It may also be encountered in the underground as a Malfunction, people got this (like my brother) and attached it to ARCEUS, making the ??? type, no weaknesses are found on this type--[[User:M.vit|M.vit]] 00:10, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
:Believe me, people code-spelunk like there's no tomorrow...there isn't such thing.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 00:10, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

can M.vit at least tell how did his brother encounter such a plate, and how does it function with other Pokémon?and what happens to a Pokémon who knows the move [[curse]]

can somebody edit this article . It says that Arceus creted the Pokémon Universe,''Dragon trio'' and lake trio. Till now the dragon trio isn't officially confirmed. so whether I or somebody else should change the Dragon trio to the time-space duo: Dialga and Palkia.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:56, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

well, seems that nobody is out of topic, BTW, i have seem to find this code in Code Junkies here it is
Mysterious Plate x999
94000130 fcff0000
b21c4d28 00000000
b0000004 00000000
00000890 03e70133
d2000000 00000000--[[User:M.vit|M.vit]] 16:55, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

:The plates all have different names on CodeJunkies which are the translated Japenese names. I believe the Mysterious Plate is actually the Mind Plate. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:13, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
::Your right, it is the mind plate. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 16:45, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

==type change==

Keckleons ability color change changes its type according to the move done by the opponent so if ???-type arceus used judjement, will it change its type? can anyone experiment?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:21, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

:The fact that you can't get a ??? plate makes it difficult to say. I have no idea what would happen...♪♪[[User:ShinyPachirisu|Shiny]] [[User Talk:ShinyPachirisu|Pachirisu]] :) ♪♪ 13:23, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

::???-type moves have been hacked and have no effect. So Kecleon would probably be unaffected. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 13:39, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Actually, they do have an effect... they just deal minimal damage. Lemme see what it does in Gen III later on... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:41, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

== [[Pal Park]] ==

Will it really freeze the game when you put Arceus infront of the party and bla bla bla to the Pal Park?
[[User:Palkia38|Palkia38]] 03:48, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

== Now... ==

Isn't what I did so freaking cool? I mean, look at it. And the best thing is that it is totally dependent on the ''exact second'' that you save/access the page. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:32, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
:A fine template, indeed. Would it be useful to use something like this to generate random examples in paragraphs?
:P.S.: What you did (a calculation based on a clock) is even a good idea for a new ability or move in the game that picks a random type. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 07:53, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
::Now if we only had the backsprites for the various forms...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 22:49, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Two clock-based calculations would make it even more random. Watch this. {{#expr: ({{#time: U}} div {{#time: s}}) mod 9002}} {{#ifexpr: (({{#time: U}} div {{#time: s}}) mod 9002) > 9000|<big>'''← IT'S OVER 9000!!!'''</big>}}
:::As for random examples... hmm... Well, what are you thinking?
:::And I wish for the backsprites, too... And the minisprite, does it change with Arceus? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:58, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

==Arceus in My Pokémon Ranch==
For a fact,someone in the German forum BisaBoard got Arceus as one of the daily Pokémon!This person was -like me- totally dumbfounded and opened that thread to know more about this phenomena.
I've asked some expert in the same message board if this would be really possible.To my surprise,he said that he checked the programme code and Arceus is really included!I think this MUST be put into the Trivia section.[[User:Uxie legend|Uxie legend]]

:How does one check the program code of a Wii Ware title? And of course Arceus would be there, it can be deposited just like any other Pokémon. Plus, I ''doubt'' that Hayley will trade you an Arceus... ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:02, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

::Might be wrong, but I believe there is a set list of Pokémon Hayley will only trade off, which was found and released in dr_nza's FAQ found [http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/wii/file/943658/53074 here]. The Pokémon Hayley brings are random, so I guess Arceus is a possibility, but Hayley won't be able to trade it off. - [[User:Legotim|█╬▓◘ ’M █╚▓█ (ţś_łєğǿŧΐм)]] [[User talk:Legotim|spreche]] 05:06, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

==Hmmm....==
Should we add that Arceus is the most hacked Pokemon? Every hacker I know owns a Arceus ''and'' all its plates. [[User:Strong Intelligent|Strong Intelligent]]
:No. tc26 14:03, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
::I own all the plates too. I got them underground. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:46, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

:::I spent so much time underground that I have more than one of each plate. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 03:22, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

== Church? ==

{{u|Sui}} keeps adding an external link to "The Church of Arceus." I'm wondering whether or not this is notable enough, or if it's just an advertisement for an obscure fansite. I don't know anything, so you guys be the judges. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 21:59, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

== Ūber? ==

If [[Arceus]] isn't offically reveiled, how can it be called Ūber? Can't spell.

☆ShinyPiKa 19:17, 8 August 2008 (UTC)☆
:Well, some people hack into their games and can get Arceus that way. So they know that way. ...I really dunno [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 19:22, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

::His stats put him in the league of the strongest Pokemon of all, so he's safe to call that. [[User:Toastypk|'''''~Toastypk''''']] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|'''Loom.''']] 19:28, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

::: Although that is true, it isn't revealed yet so it can't be under that catagory '''yet'''. It's been annoying me, please remove it. ShinyPiKa 19:58, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

:::It's being used, and people are able to--gasp, shocker--read its stats! And, since its stats (and movepool, for that matter) are pretty decent, it can be classified as "uber," despite it being revealed or not. --'''[[User:Gabbie|gabbie]]''' | '''[[User_talk:Gabbie|talk]]''' 21:07, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

:::: But people still use Arceus on Wi-Fi. Darkrai and Shaymin were in and are still in the UBER tier so why should Arceus be any different?--[[User:Blazevoir|Blaz]][[User talk:Blazevoir|evoir]] 20:59, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

::::: Because it hasn't been revealed yet !!! :D ShinyPiKa 22:23, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::You cant use Arceyus in the battle tower. [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 09:30, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::: Please remove [[Arceus]] from the Ūber secion 4 now, when its reveaaled u can add it back.ShinyPiKa 15:00, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::::: Why? Every other website considers it ÜBER. Why should Bulba be any different?--[[User:Blazevoir|Blaz]][[User talk:Blazevoir|evoir]] 15:08, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Because people think Nintendo will kill us for actually taking note of their stuff before they officially reveal them. Unlike Platinum's existence before May 15, though, it can be proven that Arceus exists. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:21, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

== Arceus vs. Mew ==

This is all that Mew's Pokédex entries say:

*Because it can use all kinds of moves, many scientists believe Mew to be the ancestor of Pokémon.
*Mew is said to possess the genetic composition of all Pokémon.
*Because it can learn any move, some people began research to see if it is the ancestor of all Pokémon.

First off, this kind of stuff didn't appear until Silver. Second off, it is ''very'' couched in uncertainty, and it is ''never'' said that its actually been shown to possess every type of DNA - ''only that its ability to perform any move has generated that rumor''.

Second off, several Pokémon are completely artificial, such as {{p|Grimer}}/{{p/Muk}}, {{p|Castform}}, or {{p|Porygon}}/{{p|Porygon2}}/{{p|Porygon-Z}}. So, how could Mew be considered their "ancestor", or have their DNA, if its supposed to be the "first Pokemon"? Wouldn't having the DNA of Pokemon who appeared completely separate from any genetic lineage instead imply Mew was their descendant?

Porygon is even said to be "A Pokémon that consists entirely of programming code." So, no DNA at all, and its upgrades are said to simply have had AI installed.

Even allowing for the monstrously egregious interpretations of genetics in the series, the idea that having all the DNA of a group makes you its ancestor is hogwash - its entirely the other way around.

Now, lets look at Arceus, and its info.
*It is told in mythology that this Pokémon was born before the universe even existed.
*It is described in mythology as the Pokémon that shaped the universe with its 1,000 arms.
* "Two beings of time and space set free from the Original One."
* "Three beings were born to bind time and space."
* "Two make matter and three make spirit, shaping the world."
* "The Original One breathed alone before the universe came."

Now, this is ''much'' more explicit than the Mew bit '''ever''' was. It makes it absolutely clear that Arceus came ''before even the universe itself, much less other Pokémon'', and that it in fact created the world and life itself. Once could claim that this is uncertain do to its status as "mythology", but that would be hilariously in denial of how the series has used mythology so far - as an origin story, not as something by definition uncertain or false.

How is there even a dispute about this? If it's a retcon at all, it's a fairly small one - it was clear from the beginning that the bit about Mew being the origin had a contradictory explanation.

Now, what could work is that Mew is supposed to be god-like like Arceus and other Legendaries - in this case, it would logically be some scion of life, which would in fact explain its design. If the bit about Mew containing all other DNA turned out to be "true", in the context of the franchise, then this would also make much more sense than the pseudo-scientific jargon used in Silver - Mew contains the DNA because it is the ultimate personification of life/birth, and the scientists are trying to force a contradictory explanation for the oddity in order to deny its true, supernatural origin.

So can we please stop claiming things like the D/P Pokedex "still stating that it's the ancestor of all pokémon", or that "it's no different than people believing Arceus is the creator"? [[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 06:14, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
:Creationism vs science? In my Pokémon? It's more likely than you think! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:30, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

::ummm... "Uncertain", If I recall correctly, it can learn "Transform", which, unless I'm mistaken, involves the recombination of it's own DNA to match said pokemon that transforms. And, since Ditto's Pokédex entry hints that how it transforms involves it recombining it's DNA to match the pokémon it's trying to match, the same can easily be said for Mew. So, really, considering how it knows transform, and it can transform into a lot of pokémon, even legendaries that were supposedly created before it, it still has merit in regards to having the DNA of all pokémon, and thus being the ancestor of all pokémon.

::As for the Porygon/2/z example, considering the mere fact that Mew can transform into these three pokémon DESPITE apparantly not having their DNA, I think that those Pokémon have a miniscule amount of Mew's DNA (otherwise, how can Ditto [Or mew, for that matter] transform into them?].). Besides, just because they are composed entirely of AI (whether it's the free will kind or not doesn't matter) doesn't mean it can't have DNA. Take the Mega Man series (specifically, the Mega Man X subseries through the Mega Man ZX series.), the Reploids were mentioned to be complete Machines (all derived from X's design), and yet the games also mentions that they have DNA (Reploid "DNA" was used to form the Nightmare Virus, and also revive Necromances III, Harumachine, Blizzard Staggoff, and Copy X. Plus, Axl's ability involves him mimicking his enemies (and in the case of Command Mission and [Technically] ZX advent, even bosses.).

::And anyways, Mew can also transform into Grimer, Muk, and Castform, which, if Mew didn't have their DNA, then how can Mew OR Ditto even transform into them?

::Also, about it's pokedex entries, both of them contradict themselves. I mean, one says that it was born before the universe existed, and yet, the other hints that it was born a little while AFTER the Universe was created, and that all IT did was merely "shape" the universe. Plus, it doesn't even HAVE 1,000 arms in its sprite, and not only that, but It also apparantly can't even learn any attacks involving arms, such as all of the punch variants.

::as for the origin book, that ALSO doesn't mention Giratina (yet, anyways, for all we know, Platinum could add it in.), and plus, that same thing hinted that Dialga and Palkia are two halves of Arceus, but then, why cant they merge together (I mean, Dragon Quest, and Mephiles the Dark could do it without much trouble from programming data, so why cant D/P)?

::and anyways, the legends also hinted that Legendaries can't be captured by mere mortals, yet most of the crime syndicates, the Pyramid King and even the protagonist has been wielding these pokemon as if they were nothing.

::That's my ruling as to how the thing isn't retconned (well, that, as well as the fact that, if it was, then wouldn't they have removed the entry from the Pokédex?) [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 10:49, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

lets remember that game physics are different from animé physics. Dialga, Palkia and giratina symbolise physics of the Pokémon world: time, space and dimensions,so if Arceus is the master of them that wouldn't make sense:creationism and science don't go together. Mew can transform its appearance, but not the nature or unique functions of a Pokémon, and if we follow good sense we can also say that it can't copy Pokémon which evolved in a special way because their not ''original'' like trading its bioligical fusion of item and Pokémon DNA.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 12:40, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

:I'm pretty sure that it can copy even those that evolved in a "special" way in even the Anime. Remember, Weavile evolves from Sneasel via the Sharp Claw item, which also fits under the special way, and despite that, Mew STILL transformed into that pokemon in the Lucario Movie. If it can evolve through something like that, I'm pretty certain that it is even ancestral to those pokemon who evolve via special means. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 13:50, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Wait, '''''what?''''' You're saying that ''because it can do something that '''Ditto''' can do'', it must be the ancestor of all Pokemon? Wouldn't this also require Ditto to be the ancestor of all Pokemon?
:::'''Porygon''': Then you are making up things contradictory to the established in-game facts in order to force in your own fan-theory. Almost every Pokedex entry for the Porygon line reiterates that they have NOTHING but programming code.
:::'''MegaMan X''': It is never, ''ever'' stated that the robots are "completely mechanical" - that they have souls, DNA, and can merge with living things pretty much makes that theory impossible. DNA is a very specific thing - it's ''not'' a general concept about information derivation, it's a ''specific organic acid''.
:::'''Axl''': His ability has NOTHING to do with DNA, and is never claimed to. It's essentially analogous to what Transformers do.
:::'''Muk''': I didn't say that Mew didn't necessarily possess the DNA of all creatures, though that's not the only way to copy them. I said that claiming this meant it was the ancestor was so completely ignorant of evolution and genetics that it deserves ridicule.
:::However, Ditto is able to copy them because it is an amoeba, and can change the shape of its body at will. To be fair, it is ''once'' said to be able to copy the opponent's genetic code - which would only work AFTER seeing the opponent. As that is EXACTLY how Transform is described anyway, that theory is blown out of the water.
:::'''Arceus' Pokedex''': This is a bald-faced lie. The pokedex entries in no way claim that Arceus came to be after the Universe existed - at best, they claim he came before it, created it, and shaped it.
:::'''Arms''': Have you considered the fact that it could have lost them, or given them up? It is the only Arceus in existence, by the very necessity of its being, so its not going to be something like "They're all born without the arms". It "set free" all those legendaries from itself - maybe it made them from its arms, like so '''very''' many Creation Myths, ''especially the linked Pangu one''.
:::You could also consider that "1000" is often used in Japanese writing to mean "many", instead of a specific number, and as the trios of matter and spirit are considered extensions of Arceus, they could be its "appendages" in a spiritual sense. Seriously, that part of its Pokedex isn't contradictory ''at all''.
:::'''Merge''': What does this have to do with ''anything''? Why would Dragon Quest have any bearing on this?
:::'''Legends''': In the games? No, the legends don't claim that, so the fact that certain legendaries fight with trainers is not contradictory, regardless of your false assertion that it's "like nothing". In the anime, where the legends imply that messing with them is incredibly dangerous to the natural order...well, I'll just let you watch the movies, or something, and try to claim that it's "like nothing".
:::'''Remove''': Why would it be removed? It never claimed anything that was '''false''' - again, '''''it only claims that fictional scientists have a tenuous, uncertain belief based on one of its abilities'''''. The deliberate uncertainty of the Pokedex entries, in contrast to nearly every other Pokedex entry, even for Legendaries, has to be considered. If it's not simply a monstrous misunderstanding of genetics on the game designer's part, then it's almost certainly meant to be a reference to "Supernatural vs. Naturalist science".
::::''"If it can evolve through something like that, I'm pretty certain that it is even ancestral to those pokemon who evolve via special means."''
:::Again, this is inherently contradictory. If these are supposed to be new Pokemon, who only came into existence through a modern item, how could Mew possibly be said to already contain their DNA just because it can ''copy their form''? Remember, Porygon is said to be completely artificial, not an accident like Muk or Grimer.
::::''"lets remember that game physics are different from animé physics. Dialga, Palkia and giratina symbolise physics of the Pokémon world: time, space and dimensions,so if Arceus is the master of them that wouldn't make sense:creationism and science don't go together."'''
:::If Arceus is their master, then that would be in-game science. Science is the pursuit of ''truth'', not the pursuit of purely-materialistic explanations whether it's the truth or not.
:::Also, Giratina would symbolize the afterlife, or some other term for "The Other", not dimensions - "space", in the concept referred to by the triad, would necessarily contain dimensions already, parallel or measurable.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 05:46, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
::::I'm not SAYING that Ditto necessarily IS the ancestor, I only brought it into the picture since it's the only OTHER pokemon to know Transform. And besides which, the Pokédex entry for Ditto explicitly stated that it can transform by rearranging it's Genetic Structure (in other words, it's DNA) to that of it's target. It ALSO replicates their move set and, unless I'm mistaken, even their stats and natures.
::::actually, the Pokedex contradicted ITSELF in that case. I mean, if it doesn't have ANY DNA, then Ditto (not to mention Mew) couldn't transform into it OR it's family, and we all know that it can. Try and get a ditto, and try to face off against Porygon or it's family members in your games, and use transform against it if you don't believe me.
::::Ahem... when I said "Mega Man X" I mean from the Mega Man X saga ALL THE WAY to Mega Man ZX saga. In Mega Man Zero 4: ''Intro: The Reploids... They were robots designed to look like humans... these '''technical marvels''' were given unique personalities and were intended to be the perfect workers and the perfect partners of mankind...'' Later, Dr. Weil says something that would hint at Reploid being COMPLETELY mechanical. This is when Zero encounters him at the Ragnarōk core: Dr. Weil: ''Justice!? Freedom!? Worthless ideals! '''You Reploids are Just Machines, but you started a war a long time ago in the name of freedom!''' And Humans! Look what they did to me! Driving Me away while spurting the word "Justice!"'' And don't assume that he knows nothing about Reploid Physiology since he worked on reviving Reploids prior to his banishment from Neo Arcadia, and besides which, the reason why he was banished was because he created Dark Elf and augmented Zero's original body to become the horrific Omega, as well as instigated the Elf Wars. That shows that he knows quite a LOT about Reploids.
::::as for Axl, it was indeed DNA. in fact, Model A, whose personality (as well as his abilities and the form that Grey/Ashe take on when Megamerging with Model A) is clearly Based off of Axl, and would have easily been labeled as a reincarnation of Axl if Master Albert didn't say that it was actually "Model Albert". Heck, after beating Buckfire in the game, he explicitly mentions that he absorbed Buckfire's DNA, which would allow Grey/ashe to transform and utilize his abilities at will.
::::It also mentioned that Mew possessed the DNA of all Pokémon, though (and anyways, just saying that it "possesses the Genetic code for "pokémon" pretty much implies ALL Pokemon.). And that's what I was saying about Transform the whole time. I mean, Ancestors have to have the DNA of ALL Pokémon to actually be labeled as an Ancestor of all pokémon.
::::As for the Arceus entry, the way Pearl's Pokedex entry was worded made it seem as though it Shaped the universe as soon as it was born. And anyways, the Origin Myth implied that Arceus was the creator of the universe, whileas Pearl's Dex entry stated that it merely shaped it.
::::How can a god lose arms? I mean, Did Ares become one-armed? No, he didn't, and he has fought several wars where something like Decapitation or losing some part of limbs can be considered inevitable, esp. during his time.
::::Lets see, because the Origin thing mentioned that Dialga and Palkia are two halves of Arceus, and, if they were truly two halves of the same being, then having them both in your party would gain you a new arceus. but it doesn't.
::::Let's see, because only the Crime syndicates, the Hero/ine, and in one case, a BF leader, was able to capture legendaries. Also, in the Anime, the only time that the legendaries actually CAUSED a natural imbalance was in "Pokemon 2000", which even THEN, it was hinted that it was actually caused by territorial disputes rather than because it was captured in and of itself. most of the other movies and anime related things that featured legendaries didn't have the legendaries causing all Hades to break loose right when they were captured. Besides, as common in many mythos, A god simply cannot be captured by Mortals.
::::Because, if they didn't HAVE DNA, then Mew and Ditto CAN'T transform, since the move Transform requires the Genetic Code of a pokémon. Besides, that was directed at the guy who said that those who evolve via trades and items can't be related to Mew.
::::No, it's in game Mythology. The Origin story is nothing more than one big myth.
::::And yet it's constantly implied that Giratina is listed among Dialga and Palkia.
::::Anyways, that's all for now. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 11:25, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
::'''Ditto''': Your logic was that, because it can use Transform, it must be the ancestor. Either this implies that Ditto is also the ancestor (a contradiction), or you need to not make such claims. Its inherently self-contradictory.
::While Ditto's profile ''does'' sometimes say that it '''copies''' (not already possesses) the opponent's genetic code, it also says that it is "Capable of reorganizing its cells to transform into an exact duplicate of its enemy. It is usually a shapeless blob.", and that it can transform to resemble a rock. It is explicitly clear from the Pokedex entries, the description of Transform, and how Ditto is presented in the series, that it is merely ''reshaping it's '''own''' genetic code to '''resemble''' something else''. Because, as we all know, ROCK's DON'T HAVE DNA.
::The description of Transform, and how Ditto uses it, does ''not'' require that the opponent has DNA, only that Ditto does. ''Please keep this in mind''.
::The definition of "machine" does not require that something be purely inorganic in nature, and neither of the quotes you provided really even claims anything near that. Weil's quote, in that case, is emotional, and almost certainly pointing out his view that Reploid's are inferior and by nature servants of humans. This is the view used by ''all'' the villains in the Zero series, and is actually a ''huge'' part of the conflict. Play the games again.
::'''Axl''': No, it's not DNA. It's never said to be DNA. It's said to be a special ability of his, to transform his body. Model A, while designed to be a callback to Axl, is NOT Axl. However, I grant you that the Shittenou are said to have been derived from X's DNA. As Reploids are ''never'' said to be completely mechanical, and DNA is only mentioned as belonging to X and the Shittenou (notice that in ZX, Reploids and organics ''have been combined anyway'' - play the game again), it doesn't support your claim that something purely mechanical or programmed can still have DNA.
::'''Ancestor'': No, it says that some scientists ''claim'' that based on its abilities. '''You need to get that through your head''', and stop claiming that the Pokedex outright claims these things. You should also learn that your concept of "ancestry" is completely, utterly flawed, with no basis in any kind of genetics, and absolutely ridiculous. I'm sorry to be so harsh, but it's outright folly. That's NOT how an ancestor would be determined.
::'''Pearl''': You are again twisting or inserting things into the Pokedex that are not there in order to fit your views.
::'''Arms''': Hephaestus. Hercules. Pangu. Ymir. Odin. Please, think before spouting - gods are ''very'' prone to lose parts of their bodies.
::'''Halves''': First off, it doesn't. It claims they are two parts of Arceus. There is ''no basis'' in science ''or'' mythology for what you claim - Pangu and Ymir don't suddenly come back just because all the pieces are there. Two halves of an apple don't rejoin to a full apple just because they are there.
::'''Capture''': Pokemon 2000, in which the sea itself sprung forth, Pokemon the Movie, in which the world almost drowned, Pokemon 3, in which UNOWN nearly crystallized the earth, Pokemon 4Ever, in which messing with Celebi caused the forest to become a rampaging monster, Jirachi Wishmaker, in which messing with Jirachi caused the earth to come alive as a rampaging monster, Rise of Darkrai, in which Dialga and Palkia being disturbed nearly rent apart time and space...nearly every movie follows this format. Don't be so dense. Why would the world ''immediately'' come apart, anyway? If you removed the moon, it would still take some time for the seas to destabilize. As for your assertion that gods cannot be captured - you clearly have no knowledge of mythology. Such a thing is rife throughout Norse, Greek, Roman, Chinese, Japanese, Native American, African....nearly every mythology has such a thing happen. Only Abrahamic religions, where the ''sole'' God has absolute power and absolute perfection, has a deity invulnerable to human effort.
::'''New Pokemon''': First off, I didn't say all new Pokemon didn't have DNA, only that some of these included Pokemon who are explicitly said to be purely artificial. Second off, ''you really need to actually look stuff up before claiming things'' - your claims about, well, damn near everything in this discussion have almost no basis in what the game's have actually said. Transform requires the USER's DNA to be changed to cause the USER to resemble the opponent. There is no intake of DNA, and it would be ridiculous to claim that Ditto already has a databank of all DNA (remember, it can turn into Ash - is Ditto Ash's ancestor?)
::...it would be mythology (a story which explains the origin of the world) AND science (an experimentally fact-checked story which explains an empirical truth). Mythology is ''not'' equivalent to "lies and untruths".
::'''Giratina''': ...um, yeah. Which is why I explained that it can't represent something ruled by one of the others.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 22:37, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
:::As I said in my previous post, I wasn't implying that Ditto is the ANCESTOR (I only brought it into the picture because it's the only pokémon aside from Mew to learn Transform. Did I SAY that Ditto was the ancestor of all pokemon? no, I didn't.).
:::And that's why I differentiated between Mew and Ditto, see, Ditto needed to copy the DNA, yet it is hinted repeatedly even in DP that Mew's DNA contains all of Pokemon (more than just moves, also stats and typings to a certain extent [I.E. Transform]. Heck, it can even utilize Judgement if it wanted to (Not by move tutor's of course, but definitely via Metronome.). That's what makes Mew the ancestor. Besides, there's more to being an ancestor than just being there first. You must ALSO be genetically related. I'm not going into the DP thing since you're obviously missing the idea.
:::Ok, I'l agree with the Norse gods (though to be fair, it wasn't caused by Mortals), but Hercules was a half god, meaning, he can still be mutilated significantly by mortals with visible scarring.
:::Ok, I already covered Pokemon 2000, and the Unown weren't TRUE Legendary Pokemon. Also, The only thing caused by the capture of Celebi was the forest pokemon being POed, that Mecha didn't count since Iron Masked marauder made that mech. All Celebi did was just act as the core. Heck, Ask Blackjack Palazzo if you don't believe me, since she also mentioned that as well. I'll acknowledge Jirachi, though. As for the Rise of Darkrai, Humans weren't even responsible for Dialga and Palkia fighting, they just met when they ended up in a bad mood. Also, Mewtwo tried to do those actions to try and earn the right to exist (though most of that was eliminated from the Dub, sadly.). As for what you stated, if gods CAN be captured by mere mortals, EXPLAIN why Pirithous couldn't even capture Persephone without having his own butt stuck on a bench for all of eternity?! Heck, name one story where Zeus or any of the PURE gods were captured by mere mortals and forced to do their bidding by the Mortals command. Also, just FYI, I just mastered AP Latin, so DON'T say I'm not knowledgeable in Mythology in the Graeco-roman kind at least.
:::And for the last time, I didn't IMPLY nor state that Ditto even HAD a databank of DNA, that attribute belongs to Mew, and Mew alone.
:::Sheesh, sometimes you guys are impossible.[[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 23:00, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
::::It doesn't matter whether you explicitly say that Ditto is the ancestor - you're reasoning relies on claiming that the ability to use Transform is an indicator of having the DNA, and being the ancestor. Just by looking at Ditto, that's false. Being snarky about it doesn't change the fact that you're wrong.
::::Clefairy also has metronome, so Metronome cannot be an indicator of being the ancestor. To be the ancestor of all Pokemon, all Pokemon must be your descendants. Dialga and Palkia are clearly and explicitly descendants of Arceus only, unless Mew is Arceus' ancestor, which would be contradictory to what we are told. Again, you are confusing something the game frequently reiterates is a rumor, with what the game puts forth as exposition.
::::...what the hell do you mean "to be fair"? I never claimed that mortals caused the gods to lose body parts, and its completely irrelevant to discussion. As for Hercules, he became a full god after his original death.
::::....okay, I'm just going to post back your original post on this sub-topic, because you seem to have a bad memory:
:::''"and anyways, the legends also hinted that Legendaries can't be captured by mere mortals, yet most of the crime syndicates, the Pyramid King and even the protagonist has been wielding these pokemon '''as if they were nothing.'''"''
::::Mewtwo, the only Pokemon I can think of that was actually wielded by a "crime syndicate", caused those actions because it was PO'd about ''being used by humans''.
::::As far as I can tell, your implication with that passage was that Legendaries weren't the god-like beings that the legends indicated - ''yet their actions, even in The Rise of Darkrai, explicitly demonstrates that they are''. Whether a human actively screws with them or not, they ''can and will'' rip the world apart if they're in a bad mood. I'm also unaware of the legends implying that it's impossible to capture them - only that it's impossible to safely enslave them.
::::Wow...you pass high school latin, and you deem it logical to choose ''one'' example from ''one'' mythology to claim that ''all'' mortals in ''all'' mythology will never have the upper hand against ''any'' god? I'm definitely out of my league here!
::::Some other examples:
:::::''...Zeus then ordered Hades to chain Sisyphus in Tartarus. Sisyphus slyly asked Thanatos to try the chains to show how they worked. When Thanatos did so, Sisyphus secured them and threatened Hades. This caused an uproar, and no human could die until Ares (who was annoyed that his battles had lost their fun because his opponents would not die) intervened, freeing Thanatos and sending Sisyphus to Tartarus.''
:::::''Tantalus offered up his son, Pelops, as a sacrifice to the gods. He cut Pelops up, boiled him, and served him up as food for the gods. The gods were said to be aware of his plan for their feast, so they didn't touch the offering; only Demeter, distraught by the loss of her daughter, Persephone, "did not realize what it was" and ate part of the boy's shoulder.''
::::Yes, those who mess with the gods get it in the end - but isn't this ''exactly'' what happens to those who mess with the Legendary Pokemon? Even innocent play with pseudo-legendaries like Unown can endanger the world.
::::...I don't know how I can make this more plain:
:::::'''''You claimed that Mew's ability to use Transform meant it had to be the ancestor, and brought up Ditto as a "evidence" for your interpretation of how Transform worked.''''' Now, when confronted with this, you claim that the ability to use Transform does not imply something is the ancestor. '''''Make up your mind'''''.
:::::Actually, to be fair, you don't actually bring up this glaring inconsistency. You just try to avoid the contradiction, and try to "eat your cake and have it too."

To summarize:
#Mythology, as portrayed in the series, is quite reliable.
#Arceus' mythology is neither self-contradictory, nor unique among real-world mythology.
#The claim about Mew having the DNA of all Pokemon is not only contradictory to the explicit facts about artificial Pokemon such as Porygon, but never even claimed as fact, only as a rumor.
#Transform, as described in-game and as demonstrated by Ditto, does ''not'' require a databank of all DNA. It merely requires the ability to change shape, or to replicate another's DNA.
#Metronome, as described in-game and as demonstrated by Clefairy, also does not require a databank of all DNA.
#Claiming that Mew is the ancestor of all Pokemon is inherently contradictory to the stated claims about Arceus, Dialga, Palkia, Mesprit, Axelf, Uxie, and Heatran.
#Even before considering the contradictions in the total mythology, '''''The idea that having a copy of all of a group's DNA implies you are their ancestor is inherently ridiculous and contradictory. It is the opposite of how genetics and inheritance actually works, even on the most basic level. It can be immediately refuted by a thought-examination of a child and his two, un-related parents.'''''

[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 08:08, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Umm... Hello. May I be permitted to submit my own wild abstractions?(*looks around*) Thank you. Well, what if Arceus began by creating the Universe and then created Mew as a template for all Pokémon who then flew off and was disregarded whilst Arceus was busy creating the 'gods' of Time and Space... Or something...[[User:Monblazon|Monblazon]] 21:15, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

== STAB ==

The movesets seem to automatically assume Arceus is of the Fighting Type. I am unfamiliar with how this is coded, and so don't know how to fix it - is there anyone who can fix it?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 06:00, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
:Don't you mean Dragon-type? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:03, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
::Everything on the page assumes that Arceus is a randomly-generated type. It's a bit of code TTE added.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 06:42, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Arceus is a {{type2|{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|0=???|1=Normal|2=Fighting|3=Flying|4=Poison|5=Ground|6=Rock|7=Bug|8=Ghost|9=Steel|10=Fire|11=Water|12=Grass|13=Electric|14=Psychic|15=Ice|16=Dragon|17=Dark}}}}... everyone knows that.
:::Yeah. My random code that changes depending on the time that the page is last loaded to cache. Takes the Unix time (seconds since 1/1/1970) and then does a modulo division by 18, assigning one of the eighteen forms of Arceus to each remainder. Unown does a similar thing, but you only notice it in the evoboxes. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:04, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

== Empty ==

There is no content in the "In the anime", "In the manga" and "In the TCG". So why not somebody delete it?
[[User:FireHazard|FireHazard]] 03:07, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
:So when it comes out we can put it there.All pages fit a designated template[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]]

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why is the movelist not where its supposed to be????
or is it just my computer????[[User:Dion24|Dion24]] 11:03, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

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Thank you, and have a good time editing here! --[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 01:23, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

:Thanks! ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:31, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
::No problemo and ok.'''[[User:CoolPikachu!|♫Cool]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|Pikachu]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|!♫]]'''
== Neat ==
Your sig is cool. Where'd you learn wiki coding? --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 01:36, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah your fast '''[[User:CoolPikachu!|♫Cool]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|Pikachu]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|!♫]]'''

::I used to edit frequently on Wikipedia, until the users became too elitist. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:42, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

:::Ohh I also came from there but was on it seldomly '''[[User:CoolPikachu!|♫Cool]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|Pikachu]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|!♫]]'''

== Newcomer? ==
You're new here, too? (Oh, and I got Darkrai at Toys 'R' Us. He disliked me when I first got him! Thanks for responding back.) {{ani|385}}[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 17:29, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Apparently, it looks as though you leave something whenever I leave something on the Talk pages... A stalker Darkrai hiding in the shadows, following me? Just kidding, I actually appreciate it since I just started out today. ^.^ [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 19:44, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

== Question ==

Are you willing to do more? I can't do them myself because my computer can't read Japanese, so I can't be sure with any characters I use. I want to know how you are doing it, are you just searching attacks that the Pokémon might have? because if you are, that won't work for very long. Many of the cards have weird attacks that aren't present in the games and I was just wondering if that was how you were doing it. If you don't want to do more...I understand. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:12, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:Well then, I have a long list so we might as well get started now. {{TCG ID|5th Movie Half Deck|Oakley's Ariados|1}}. I think it would be better if I just link you the picture instead of posting the picture on your talk page: [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Oakleyariados.jpg] ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:34, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

::I won't be able to do too much right now, but I will get cracking on this as soon as I have more time. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:37, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:::That is perfectly fine. Just post the attacks on my page when you finish them! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:45, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:Okay, the following might be tough with the Poké-Body in it but: [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Samiyachatot1.jpg] I do not expect you to translate it for me right now, I am dealing with the mess known as {{TCG|"PCG-P" Promotional cards}} (which this card is actually in). ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:24, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
::A new Samiya's Chatot!! [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Samiyachatot2.jpg] ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 15:53, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
::I'm not sure about the Continuous Scratch because the damage is only 20, Continuous Scratch is an attack that would have 20× instead of just 20. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:04, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Okay. I'll give it another go. It's amazing that you can get completely different results by being just one character off. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:31, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
:If you can't get it, we can move on because I put the translation notice on the page. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:40, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Can I ask you to do something different for me? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 15:29, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah, go ahead. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:54, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::I need the kanji from the name in the top left corner for each of the following:
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Could you do that for me please? If you click on the image, it should be bigger on the Archives. (Sorry if it seems like a lot...) ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:21, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:Well I was kinda right, something with translation~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 16:22, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::YES!!! That is exactly what I need (as far as I can tell, remember, I can't read Japanese on my computer) If you can get them all, you just pulled me out the hole I was in!! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:36, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Yay! Knocked out three. Only seven left. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:40, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::Aaron and Tory have their Jap. names already, but they have additions (like last names) added onto them. They are up there because I don't know what belongs and what doesn't. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:10, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Seven down. Three more to do! ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 00:11, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

== Diamond and Pearl Poketch ==

Actually, check the game, it says that Poketch is short for Pokemon Tech. Of this I am certain as I have had this argument with a number of people and they all agree with me now. {{Unsigned|Admiralaew}}
:Quote from the father of the President on the second floor of the Pokétch Company: "Pokémon Watch! That's Pokétch for short." ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 22:56, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

::Actually, I did check the game. It says Pokémon Watch. Those that believe you when you tell them "Pokémon Tech" are {{p2|Mareep|sheep}}. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 23:17, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

:::I'm sorry, I concede. I realized what happened, basically I wasn't paying attention, stupid me, very very sorry. On a side note, I am curious as to how you create your signature. {{Unsigned|Admiralaew}}
::::For starters, sign your comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. For info on creating a custom sig, see the new {{bp|signature policy}}. It also contains rules on what you can and can't do with your sig, so read it carefully. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 23:44, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::That's basically the gist of it. Thank you, Martonimos. If you have a good grasp on wiki coding, you can create a sig that you like. It took a while for me to come up with this one, it's a altered version of my old Wikipedia signature. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:59, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

== Adminship ==

To be honest, I don't really feel like I deserve it. I'm kind of an ass on wikis. (And wasn't TTE kind of throwing power around to clean up the Capulet disaster quicker...?) Not to sound ungrateful. ;[--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 00:32, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

:I wasn't on during that fiasco, but out of all the people that were on you were one of the few that were selected. In my eyes, that counts for something. I don't think of you as being ungrateful, you're just unsure is all. Don't worry, everything will slip into place. Of this I am confident. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 03:15, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

== Cards ==

Finally, you are done, I can put you to work on something else{{tt|*|Don't worry, this next thing will be the last thing I need you to do for me for a while, I have a lot to do right now}}! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:33, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

:Okay. :D ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 03:34, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
::I need to know what the attacks off of the following are. And once again, Thank you so much!! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:39, 18 July 2008 (UTC) 
<Gallery>
Image:Ash'sTreeckocard.jpg
Image:May'sTorchiccard.jpg
Image:Brock'sMudkipcard.jpg
</gallery>
:Thank you...the attack Treecko has is most likely Tail Slap: a move that other Treecko have in the TCG. And there actually is a Water Arrow attack; so, you are correct for those. Thank you. I won't ask you to do anything for me for a while; I have about 6 sets to finish with the information that you've given me already. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:47, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

::You are welcome. Glad I could be of service. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 22:49, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

== ok? ==
ok bro i dun care if im off 1 day or 1 week i dont go on this website everyday... dont take it too hard im not cussing at u or anything im just saying that i have a life ~~Ritchie~~

:I'm just saying that I don't care. Not to sound rude or anything. (Okay, maybe a little rude...) ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:56, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

== Congrats ==

Nice Job on getting ur missions accomplished, but u missed the Trozei! page itself--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 00:55, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:THUN THUN THUN!!!! ~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 00:57, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

::Got 'em. It's because I was looking for links. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 00:59, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:::hmm...~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 01:00, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

== Welcoming ==

Most of those were vandals and we don't welcome vandals. No biggie though, just remember for next time.''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:48, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

:Sorry, sometimes I get a little too carried away with my copy-and-pasting. Like I stated before, I wasn't on when that whole vandal war went down. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:12, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

== A favour to ask of you ==

Still in awe at the amount of work that has gone into the Japanese cards, I now have a bit of time to start mucking in again. You seem to be Orange's choice for help with these, and I'm in the same situation as him computer-wise, so could you help me with a card too?
This is the only one I can't find a source for, I was wondering if you could get the translation for the name and text of the second attack. I know the first attack is "Peck" and the second is "Metal"-something. I can't quite make out some characters in the text. Thanks! [[User:Nuva-kal|Nuva-kal]] 20:30, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Can you also do this as well as the kirlia...I need the kanji and translation off of this and the attack if possible. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:17, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
:Thank you! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 01:53, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
::Glad I could help. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:58, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Actually, I think the attack is "Light of Revival". Since it is an irregular attack, could you possibly translate the text? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:55, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Just trying to organize thing a bit. I need the title Kanji and the translations for the following three cards, and if you could do the effect for Celebi's Light of Revival attack, it would be appreciated but it is not necessary. Thank you. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:27, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
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Image:Celebi J promo.jpg
Image:SoulDew.jpg
Image:AltoMareTM.jpg
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== Golden Oldies ==

Sorry to bother you again, but these card articles I want to create are so old and rare, they don't have entries in the card database, and I don't have the kanji for them to translate. So I was wondering if you could get the kanji for the title and body text for the cards listed?

Secret Super Battle No. 1 [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:SecretSuperBattleNo1.jpg]

Tropical Mega Battle No. 1 [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:TropicalMegaBattleNo1.jpg]

No. 1 Trainer (2000/2001) [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:No1Trainer00.jpg]

Victory Ring [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:VictoryRingTrainer.jpg]

Victory Orb [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:VictoryOrbTrainer.jpg]

Victory Orb (Mew) [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:VictoryMewTrainer.jpg]

I know this is a rather large request, but finding out what these cards do will be a real treat for some collectors out there (me included!) Thanks. '''[[Surf (move)|~~]]''''''[[User:nuva-kal|nuva]]''''''-'''[[User_talk:nuva-kal|'''kal''']] 20:24, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

== Can you ==

translate Romanji into English? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 04:31, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:What do you have? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:08, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::Madowazu ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:32, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::Where was that taken from? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:34, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::::A game-exclusive Dark Ninetales card from the Japanese only sequal to Pokémon GB for the Gameboy Color. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:36, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::::It appears to mean "puzzlement", according to Babel Fish. I had to convert the word into Hiragana to see. I guess because it's from a game they opted not to use Kanji because it would be hard to read. Especially on a hand-held screen. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:53, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::Thank you, this means that the oldest card we don't have a page for will now get a page. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:55, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::::::I'll go get the fireworks. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:56, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::::We don't get the fireworks until every card has a page, hopefully before September 15th, with the release of POP Series 8. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:58, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::::::::I'll just hold on to them. And wait. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:02, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

===HELP===

[[Kimono Girl|Go here for an article desperately needing fixing]]--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 22:55, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

:Is it the picture alignment? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 23:12, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Talk:List of Pokémon by name

2008-08-22T23:04:34Z

$aturn¥oshi: /* Ho-Oh and Honchkrow */

I noticed that this list is up-to-date as of Gen III, and very few of the Gen IV Pokémon have English names yet, so what do we do? Should we fill them in gradually as they get them, or wait for them all at once? Not including the Japanese romanji in there is a definite good idea, though, no matter what future generation we're dealing with. [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 04:21, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
:Vote for waiting the full list to avoid multiple edits and avoid rumors, besides there is always the chance of a last minute change like some G I PKMN had. [[User:Gambler|Gambler]] 04:32, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah, true. Ah well, now to have pages based on Pokémon by height and weight... Won't that be fun? [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 09:07, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Working on that right now. How about one by species? Or by Gender ratio? Or by Breeding Group? Or by EV given? Or am I going too far? [[User:Gambler|Gambler]] 09:29, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
::::None of those is really too far, at least as much as I see. Species maybe, since those are maybe 3-4 Pokémon apiece... And we have the listed Egg groups (just not updated fully to Gen IV, I think)... EVs would be a good one, though... And maybe a gender page would be a good idea. Heck, it'd be a great one. I'll add those two to the template. [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 07:12, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::Could someone have the regional numbers and browser numbers added to the table? i'd do it myself but its too tedious. '''[[:User:Origamiguy|折り紙ガイ]] - [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|離す]] [[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|貢献]]''' 16:07, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
== Little icons ==

I think this page would look better if it had the little icons before the Pokémon's name. I tried to add them myself, but it was too tedious. Especially since some of the pictures are .gif and some others are .png for no reason. -[[User:Someone Else|Someone Else]]
:Those that are beyond 400 are all png. Up to that point, they're all gif. And yes, it ''is'' tedious. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 01:21, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
::Okay, I did A and B, by copy and pasting other tabled lists, but changing the data. And it is very tedious. Anyone can join in and help if they want. --[[User:Someone Else|Someone Else]]
:::Okay! I have done the entirety of the page. It took a couple of days, but it's done. --[[User:Someone Else|Someone Else]] 08:41, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

== Ho-Oh and Honchkrow ==

In this article, Honchkrow precedes Ho-Oh. But the database's categories list Ho-Oh before Honchkrow. Personally, I'd change it to the way the categories do it. But I'm afraid I might mess up something. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] 17:47, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

:I thought special characters are supposed to come before the letters. Which would make sense to have Ho-Oh first. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 23:04, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

User talk:$aturn¥oshi

2008-08-22T22:56:34Z

$aturn¥oshi: Finally it changed...

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For anyone interested, non-Pokémon info on me can be found {{wp|User:SaturnYoshi|here}}. (May not be completely updated.) 

And... No, my name does ''not'' come from a [[Saturn|member]] of [[Team Galactic]].
 
'''This week's #1 article:'''
*{{p|Muk}}
 
'''My thoughts:'''
*[[Glitch|Glitches]] are not real [[MissingNo.|Pokémon]], however, glitches can be real {{wp|Donkey|users}}...
*{{p|Magnemite}}, when stripped of all its stupid accessories, make handy {{wp|doorstop}}s.
 
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*Card translations for {{p|Celebi}} (pictured below).
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Thank you, and have a good time editing here! --[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 01:23, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

:Thanks! ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:31, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
::No problemo and ok.'''[[User:CoolPikachu!|♫Cool]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|Pikachu]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|!♫]]'''
== Neat ==
Your sig is cool. Where'd you learn wiki coding? --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 01:36, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah your fast '''[[User:CoolPikachu!|♫Cool]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|Pikachu]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|!♫]]'''

::I used to edit frequently on Wikipedia, until the users became too elitist. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:42, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

:::Ohh I also came from there but was on it seldomly '''[[User:CoolPikachu!|♫Cool]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|Pikachu]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|!♫]]'''

== Newcomer? ==
You're new here, too? (Oh, and I got Darkrai at Toys 'R' Us. He disliked me when I first got him! Thanks for responding back.) {{ani|385}}[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 17:29, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Apparently, it looks as though you leave something whenever I leave something on the Talk pages... A stalker Darkrai hiding in the shadows, following me? Just kidding, I actually appreciate it since I just started out today. ^.^ [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 19:44, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

== Question ==

Are you willing to do more? I can't do them myself because my computer can't read Japanese, so I can't be sure with any characters I use. I want to know how you are doing it, are you just searching attacks that the Pokémon might have? because if you are, that won't work for very long. Many of the cards have weird attacks that aren't present in the games and I was just wondering if that was how you were doing it. If you don't want to do more...I understand. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:12, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:Well then, I have a long list so we might as well get started now. {{TCG ID|5th Movie Half Deck|Oakley's Ariados|1}}. I think it would be better if I just link you the picture instead of posting the picture on your talk page: [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Oakleyariados.jpg] ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:34, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

::I won't be able to do too much right now, but I will get cracking on this as soon as I have more time. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:37, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:::That is perfectly fine. Just post the attacks on my page when you finish them! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:45, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:Okay, the following might be tough with the Poké-Body in it but: [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Samiyachatot1.jpg] I do not expect you to translate it for me right now, I am dealing with the mess known as {{TCG|"PCG-P" Promotional cards}} (which this card is actually in). ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:24, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
::A new Samiya's Chatot!! [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Samiyachatot2.jpg] ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 15:53, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
::I'm not sure about the Continuous Scratch because the damage is only 20, Continuous Scratch is an attack that would have 20× instead of just 20. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:04, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Okay. I'll give it another go. It's amazing that you can get completely different results by being just one character off. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:31, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
:If you can't get it, we can move on because I put the translation notice on the page. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:40, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Can I ask you to do something different for me? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 15:29, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah, go ahead. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:54, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::I need the kanji from the name in the top left corner for each of the following:
<gallery>
Image:Normalmovie.jpg
</gallery>
Could you do that for me please? If you click on the image, it should be bigger on the Archives. (Sorry if it seems like a lot...) ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:21, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:Well I was kinda right, something with translation~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 16:22, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::YES!!! That is exactly what I need (as far as I can tell, remember, I can't read Japanese on my computer) If you can get them all, you just pulled me out the hole I was in!! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:36, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Yay! Knocked out three. Only seven left. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:40, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::Aaron and Tory have their Jap. names already, but they have additions (like last names) added onto them. They are up there because I don't know what belongs and what doesn't. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:10, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Seven down. Three more to do! ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 00:11, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

== Diamond and Pearl Poketch ==

Actually, check the game, it says that Poketch is short for Pokemon Tech. Of this I am certain as I have had this argument with a number of people and they all agree with me now. {{Unsigned|Admiralaew}}
:Quote from the father of the President on the second floor of the Pokétch Company: "Pokémon Watch! That's Pokétch for short." ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 22:56, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

::Actually, I did check the game. It says Pokémon Watch. Those that believe you when you tell them "Pokémon Tech" are {{p2|Mareep|sheep}}. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 23:17, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

:::I'm sorry, I concede. I realized what happened, basically I wasn't paying attention, stupid me, very very sorry. On a side note, I am curious as to how you create your signature. {{Unsigned|Admiralaew}}
::::For starters, sign your comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. For info on creating a custom sig, see the new {{bp|signature policy}}. It also contains rules on what you can and can't do with your sig, so read it carefully. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 23:44, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::That's basically the gist of it. Thank you, Martonimos. If you have a good grasp on wiki coding, you can create a sig that you like. It took a while for me to come up with this one, it's a altered version of my old Wikipedia signature. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:59, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

== Adminship ==

To be honest, I don't really feel like I deserve it. I'm kind of an ass on wikis. (And wasn't TTE kind of throwing power around to clean up the Capulet disaster quicker...?) Not to sound ungrateful. ;[--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 00:32, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

:I wasn't on during that fiasco, but out of all the people that were on you were one of the few that were selected. In my eyes, that counts for something. I don't think of you as being ungrateful, you're just unsure is all. Don't worry, everything will slip into place. Of this I am confident. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 03:15, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

== Cards ==

Finally, you are done, I can put you to work on something else{{tt|*|Don't worry, this next thing will be the last thing I need you to do for me for a while, I have a lot to do right now}}! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:33, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

:Okay. :D ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 03:34, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
::I need to know what the attacks off of the following are. And once again, Thank you so much!! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:39, 18 July 2008 (UTC) 
<Gallery>
Image:Ash'sTreeckocard.jpg
Image:May'sTorchiccard.jpg
Image:Brock'sMudkipcard.jpg
</gallery>
:Thank you...the attack Treecko has is most likely Tail Slap: a move that other Treecko have in the TCG. And there actually is a Water Arrow attack; so, you are correct for those. Thank you. I won't ask you to do anything for me for a while; I have about 6 sets to finish with the information that you've given me already. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:47, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

::You are welcome. Glad I could be of service. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 22:49, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

== ok? ==
ok bro i dun care if im off 1 day or 1 week i dont go on this website everyday... dont take it too hard im not cussing at u or anything im just saying that i have a life ~~Ritchie~~

:I'm just saying that I don't care. Not to sound rude or anything. (Okay, maybe a little rude...) ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:56, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

== Congrats ==

Nice Job on getting ur missions accomplished, but u missed the Trozei! page itself--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 00:55, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:THUN THUN THUN!!!! ~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 00:57, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

::Got 'em. It's because I was looking for links. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 00:59, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:::hmm...~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 01:00, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

== Welcoming ==

Most of those were vandals and we don't welcome vandals. No biggie though, just remember for next time.''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:48, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

:Sorry, sometimes I get a little too carried away with my copy-and-pasting. Like I stated before, I wasn't on when that whole vandal war went down. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:12, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

== A favour to ask of you ==

Still in awe at the amount of work that has gone into the Japanese cards, I now have a bit of time to start mucking in again. You seem to be Orange's choice for help with these, and I'm in the same situation as him computer-wise, so could you help me with a card too?
This is the only one I can't find a source for, I was wondering if you could get the translation for the name and text of the second attack. I know the first attack is "Peck" and the second is "Metal"-something. I can't quite make out some characters in the text. Thanks! [[User:Nuva-kal|Nuva-kal]] 20:30, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Can you also do this as well as the kirlia...I need the kanji and translation off of this and the attack if possible. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:17, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
:Thank you! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 01:53, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
::Glad I could help. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:58, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Actually, I think the attack is "Light of Revival". Since it is an irregular attack, could you possibly translate the text? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:55, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Just trying to organize thing a bit. I need the title Kanji and the translations for the following three cards, and if you could do the effect for Celebi's Light of Revival attack, it would be appreciated but it is not necessary. Thank you. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:27, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
<gallery>
Image:Celebi J promo.jpg
Image:SoulDew.jpg
Image:AltoMareTM.jpg
</gallery>

== Golden Oldies ==

Sorry to bother you again, but these card articles I want to create are so old and rare, they don't have entries in the card database, and I don't have the kanji for them to translate. So I was wondering if you could get the kanji for the title and body text for the cards listed?

Secret Super Battle No. 1 [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:SecretSuperBattleNo1.jpg]

Tropical Mega Battle No. 1 [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:TropicalMegaBattleNo1.jpg]

No. 1 Trainer (2000/2001) [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:No1Trainer00.jpg]

Victory Ring [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:VictoryRingTrainer.jpg]

Victory Orb [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:VictoryOrbTrainer.jpg]

Victory Orb (Mew) [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:VictoryMewTrainer.jpg]

I know this is a rather large request, but finding out what these cards do will be a real treat for some collectors out there (me included!) Thanks. '''[[Surf (move)|~~]]''''''[[User:nuva-kal|nuva]]''''''-'''[[User_talk:nuva-kal|'''kal''']] 20:24, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

== Can you ==

translate Romanji into English? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 04:31, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:What do you have? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:08, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::Madowazu ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:32, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::Where was that taken from? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:34, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::::A game-exclusive Dark Ninetales card from the Japanese only sequal to Pokémon GB for the Gameboy Color. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:36, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::::It appears to mean "puzzlement", according to Babel Fish. I had to convert the word into Hiragana to see. I guess because it's from a game they opted not to use Kanji because it would be hard to read. Especially on a hand-held screen. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:53, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::Thank you, this means that the oldest card we don't have a page for will now get a page. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:55, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::::::I'll go get the fireworks. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:56, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::::We don't get the fireworks until every card has a page, hopefully before September 15th, with the release of POP Series 8. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:58, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::::::::I'll just hold on to them. And wait. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:02, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Staryu (Pokémon)

2008-08-20T14:53:17Z

$aturn¥oshi: /* Gem */

==???==
Is it just me, or does the Red/Blue sprite look like the Gold sprite, except flipped and less color? '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 01:16, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
: I do not see it[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 01:18, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
::[[Image:Spr 1b 120.png]][[Image:Spr 2g 120.png]] I think they look similar. '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 01:20, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
::: I still do not see it, but whatever floats your boat[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 01:21, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
::::Guess it's just me. '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 01:22, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::I am also slightly colorblind, so yeah[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 01:23, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::I see it!! but I don't think it is flipped...just turned. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 01:23, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::Yay! I'm not crazy! '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 01:24, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::YAY! COLORBLIND EYES[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 01:25, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::::They look similar because it's the same Pokémon and Staryu isn't very expressive. The Gold sprite has different shading. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 07:07, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

== Gem ==

The gem in the center of Staryu looks like a PokéBall. Could someone add this to the trivia secion? [[User:ShinyPikachu|ryan]] 17:56, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
: I;m sorry, I don't see it. Even if it does, I doubt it would be note worth. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] 18:01, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
:Not so much...color-wise, yeah, but that's like saying Wurmple looks like a PokéBall since it's red and white. --'''[[User:Gabbie|gabbie]]''' | '''[[User_talk:Gabbie|talk]]''' 18:04, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
::How about shaped like a PokéBall? ShinyPiKa 20:49, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

It's simply just a round gemstone. Besides, we don't even know if it's completely spherical or flat on the back. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:53, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Latios (Pokémon)

2008-08-18T14:40:14Z

$aturn¥oshi: /* Appear possibility? */

why the heck is the mystery dungeon recruit rate listed as 0.1% ??? it joins your party automatically in the storyline, so surely thats 100%? '''[[:User:Origamiguy|折り紙ガイ]] - [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|離す]] [[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|貢献]]''' 15:28, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:That's what's in the game data. I think you can refuse to recruit it at that time and get it later. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 12:08, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

== Appear possibility? ==

What is the possibility of catching a Latios without going to that special island (eg: 3000 to 1)? I caught mine in Verdanturf. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:BlueGasMask|BlueGasMask]] ([[User talk:BlueGasMask|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/BlueGasMask|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:The possibility is A million to 0. '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''11:46 16 Aug 2008'''''
::In Sapphire (and Emerald if you select red at the TV) it can only be obtained by going to the island or trading. You should even be able to catch Latias in Verdanturf - there's no grass there. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 12:08, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
:::There is no Latias or Latios in Verdanturf in any game. They appear around the grass of Hoenn, you could maybe hack the game and make a grass there. But that's the only way to get a Latios there, I won't give you tips on hacking, not here, maybe on YouTube, but not here. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 14:13, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

They also appear on the water routes. But yeah, there's no tall grass or water in Verdanturf. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:40, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Unown Mode

2008-08-15T16:34:35Z

$aturn¥oshi: /* Trivia */ Singular-plural

[[Image:UnownDex.png|thumb|right|Unown Dex with '''F''', '''K''', and '''I''' captured]]
The '''Unown Dex''' is a Pokédex upgrade in [[Generation II]] that is designed to display all of the different {{p|Unown}} and the word associated with each of them.

Below the Unown's [[form differences|different forms]] are listed alphabetically, along with the word that they represent, as well as the [[Pokémon Power]] and Poké-Power that they have in the TCG.

{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Sprite
! Letter
! Word
! [[Pokémon Power]]
! Poké-Power
|- align="center"
|[[Image:201A.png]]
|A
|Anger
|Anger
|Analyze
|- align="center"
|[[Image:201B.png]]
|B
|Bear
|Bear
|Bounce
|- align="center"
|[[Image:201C.png]]
|C
|Chase
|Chase
|Call
|- align="center"
|[[Image:201D.png]]
|D
|Direct
|{{TCG|Darkness|Dark}}
|Draw
|- align="center"
|[[Image:201E.png]]
|E
|Engage
|Engage
|Equip
|- align="center"
|[[Image:201F.png]]
|F
|Find
|Find
|Fake
|- align="center"
|[[Image:201G.png]]
|G
|Give
|Give
|Guard
|- align="center"
|[[Image:201H.png]]
|H
|Help
|Help
|Heal
|- align="center"
|[[Image:201I.png]]
|I
|Increase
|Increase
|Item
|- align="center"
|[[Image:201J.png]]
|J
|Join
|Join
|Junk
|- align="center"
|[[Image:201K.png]]
|K
|Keep
|Keep
|Kind
|- align="center"
|[[Image:201L.png]]
|L
|Laugh
|Laugh
|Link
|- align="center"
|[[Image:201M.png]]
|M
|Make
|{{TCG|Metal}}
|Magnet
|- align="center"
|[[Image:201N.png]]
|N
|Nuzzle
|{{TCG|Colorless|Normal}}
|Nod
|- align="center"
|[[Image:201O.png]]
|O
|Observe
|Observe
|One
|- align="center"
|[[Image:201P.png]]
|P
|Perform
|Perform
|Put
|- align="center"
|[[Image:201Q.png]]
|Q
|Quicken
|Quicken
|Quick
|- align="center"
|[[Image:201R.png]]
|R
|Reassure
|Reassure
|Retire
|- align="center"
|[[Image:201S.png]]
|S
|Search
|Search
|Set
|- align="center"
|[[Image:201T.png]]
|T
|Tell
|Tell
|Throw
|- align="center"
|[[Image:201U.png]]
|U
|Undo
|Undo
|{{tt|Unseen|Poké-Body}}
|- align="center"
|[[Image:201V.png]]
|V
|Vanish
|Vanish
|Vacation
|- align="center"
|[[Image:201W.png]]
|W
|Want
|Want
|{{tt|Wall|Poké-Body}}
|- align="center"
|[[Image:201X.png]]
|X
|XXXXX
|XXXXX
|X-ray
|- align="center"
|[[Image:201Y.png]]
|Y
|Yield
|Yield
|Yawn
|- align="center"
|[[Image:201Z.png]]
|Z
|Zoom
|Zoom
|Zero
|- align="center"
|[[Image:201Question.png]]
|?
|  
|  
|?
|- align="center"
|[[Image:201Exclamation.png]]
|!
|  
|  
|!
|}

==Trivia==
*Unown D, M, and N are the only Unown that have a different word from their Pokémon Power.
*Unown U and W are the only Unown to have a Poké-Body instead of a Poké-Power.

==See also==
{{Pokelist}}

Talk:Electrode (Pokémon)

2008-08-13T13:37:52Z

$aturn¥oshi: /* Sprite */

My edit simply takes information from the Team Rocket TCG expansion, in case you were wondering.--[[User:ANinyMouse|ANinyMouse]] 00:09, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

==Sprite==
Doesn't the back and front sprite of Electrode look a lot bigger than it used to?--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 07:26, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

:All Generation IV sprites are bigger. That's nothing new. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 13:37, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

User talk:$aturn¥oshi

2008-08-12T18:02:59Z

$aturn¥oshi: /* Can you */

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:Thanks! ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:31, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
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== Neat ==
Your sig is cool. Where'd you learn wiki coding? --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 01:36, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah your fast '''[[User:CoolPikachu!|♫Cool]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|Pikachu]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|!♫]]'''

::I used to edit frequently on Wikipedia, until the users became too elitist. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:42, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

:::Ohh I also came from there but was on it seldomly '''[[User:CoolPikachu!|♫Cool]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|Pikachu]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|!♫]]'''

== Newcomer? ==
You're new here, too? (Oh, and I got Darkrai at Toys 'R' Us. He disliked me when I first got him! Thanks for responding back.) {{ani|385}}[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 17:29, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Apparently, it looks as though you leave something whenever I leave something on the Talk pages... A stalker Darkrai hiding in the shadows, following me? Just kidding, I actually appreciate it since I just started out today. ^.^ [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 19:44, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

== Question ==

Are you willing to do more? I can't do them myself because my computer can't read Japanese, so I can't be sure with any characters I use. I want to know how you are doing it, are you just searching attacks that the Pokémon might have? because if you are, that won't work for very long. Many of the cards have weird attacks that aren't present in the games and I was just wondering if that was how you were doing it. If you don't want to do more...I understand. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:12, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:Well then, I have a long list so we might as well get started now. {{TCG ID|5th Movie Half Deck|Oakley's Ariados|1}}. I think it would be better if I just link you the picture instead of posting the picture on your talk page: [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Oakleyariados.jpg] ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:34, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

::I won't be able to do too much right now, but I will get cracking on this as soon as I have more time. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:37, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:::That is perfectly fine. Just post the attacks on my page when you finish them! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:45, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:Okay, the following might be tough with the Poké-Body in it but: [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Samiyachatot1.jpg] I do not expect you to translate it for me right now, I am dealing with the mess known as {{TCG|"PCG-P" Promotional cards}} (which this card is actually in). ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:24, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
::A new Samiya's Chatot!! [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Samiyachatot2.jpg] ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 15:53, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
::I'm not sure about the Continuous Scratch because the damage is only 20, Continuous Scratch is an attack that would have 20× instead of just 20. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:04, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Okay. I'll give it another go. It's amazing that you can get completely different results by being just one character off. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:31, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
:If you can't get it, we can move on because I put the translation notice on the page. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:40, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Can I ask you to do something different for me? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 15:29, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah, go ahead. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:54, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::I need the kanji from the name in the top left corner for each of the following:
<gallery>
Image:Normalmovie.jpg
</gallery>
Could you do that for me please? If you click on the image, it should be bigger on the Archives. (Sorry if it seems like a lot...) ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:21, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:Well I was kinda right, something with translation~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 16:22, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::YES!!! That is exactly what I need (as far as I can tell, remember, I can't read Japanese on my computer) If you can get them all, you just pulled me out the hole I was in!! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:36, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Yay! Knocked out three. Only seven left. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:40, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::Aaron and Tory have their Jap. names already, but they have additions (like last names) added onto them. They are up there because I don't know what belongs and what doesn't. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:10, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Seven down. Three more to do! ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 00:11, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

== Diamond and Pearl Poketch ==

Actually, check the game, it says that Poketch is short for Pokemon Tech. Of this I am certain as I have had this argument with a number of people and they all agree with me now. {{Unsigned|Admiralaew}}
:Quote from the father of the President on the second floor of the Pokétch Company: "Pokémon Watch! That's Pokétch for short." ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 22:56, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

::Actually, I did check the game. It says Pokémon Watch. Those that believe you when you tell them "Pokémon Tech" are {{p2|Mareep|sheep}}. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 23:17, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

:::I'm sorry, I concede. I realized what happened, basically I wasn't paying attention, stupid me, very very sorry. On a side note, I am curious as to how you create your signature. {{Unsigned|Admiralaew}}
::::For starters, sign your comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. For info on creating a custom sig, see the new {{bp|signature policy}}. It also contains rules on what you can and can't do with your sig, so read it carefully. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 23:44, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::That's basically the gist of it. Thank you, Martonimos. If you have a good grasp on wiki coding, you can create a sig that you like. It took a while for me to come up with this one, it's a altered version of my old Wikipedia signature. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:59, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

== Adminship ==

To be honest, I don't really feel like I deserve it. I'm kind of an ass on wikis. (And wasn't TTE kind of throwing power around to clean up the Capulet disaster quicker...?) Not to sound ungrateful. ;[--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 00:32, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

:I wasn't on during that fiasco, but out of all the people that were on you were one of the few that were selected. In my eyes, that counts for something. I don't think of you as being ungrateful, you're just unsure is all. Don't worry, everything will slip into place. Of this I am confident. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 03:15, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

== Cards ==

Finally, you are done, I can put you to work on something else{{tt|*|Don't worry, this next thing will be the last thing I need you to do for me for a while, I have a lot to do right now}}! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:33, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

:Okay. :D ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 03:34, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
::I need to know what the attacks off of the following are. And once again, Thank you so much!! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:39, 18 July 2008 (UTC) 
<Gallery>
Image:Ash'sTreeckocard.jpg
Image:May'sTorchiccard.jpg
Image:Brock'sMudkipcard.jpg
</gallery>
:Thank you...the attack Treecko has is most likely Tail Slap: a move that other Treecko have in the TCG. And there actually is a Water Arrow attack; so, you are correct for those. Thank you. I won't ask you to do anything for me for a while; I have about 6 sets to finish with the information that you've given me already. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:47, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

::You are welcome. Glad I could be of service. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 22:49, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

== ok? ==
ok bro i dun care if im off 1 day or 1 week i dont go on this website everyday... dont take it too hard im not cussing at u or anything im just saying that i have a life ~~Ritchie~~

:I'm just saying that I don't care. Not to sound rude or anything. (Okay, maybe a little rude...) ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:56, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

== Congrats ==

Nice Job on getting ur missions accomplished, but u missed the Trozei! page itself--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 00:55, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:THUN THUN THUN!!!! ~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 00:57, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

::Got 'em. It's because I was looking for links. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 00:59, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:::hmm...~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 01:00, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

== Welcoming ==

Most of those were vandals and we don't welcome vandals. No biggie though, just remember for next time.''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:48, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

:Sorry, sometimes I get a little too carried away with my copy-and-pasting. Like I stated before, I wasn't on when that whole vandal war went down. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:12, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

== A favour to ask of you ==

Still in awe at the amount of work that has gone into the Japanese cards, I now have a bit of time to start mucking in again. You seem to be Orange's choice for help with these, and I'm in the same situation as him computer-wise, so could you help me with a card too?
<gallery>
Image:SkarmoryIntro.jpg
</gallery>
This is the only one I can't find a source for, I was wondering if you could get the translation for the name and text of the second attack. I know the first attack is "Peck" and the second is "Metal"-something. I can't quite make out some characters in the text. Thanks! [[User:Nuva-kal|Nuva-kal]] 20:30, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Can you also do this as well as the kirlia...I need the kanji and translation off of this and the attack if possible. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:17, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
<gallery>
Image:Celebi J promo.jpg
</gallery>
:Thank you! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 01:53, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

::Glad I could help. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:58, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Actually, I think the attack is "Light of Revival". Since it is an irregular attack, could you possibly translate the text? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:55, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

== Golden Oldies ==

Sorry to bother you again, but these card articles I want to create are so old and rare, they don't have entries in the card database, and I don't have the kanji for them to translate. So I was wondering if you could get the kanji for the title and body text for the cards listed?

Secret Super Battle No. 1 [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:SecretSuperBattleNo1.jpg]

Tropical Mega Battle No. 1 [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:TropicalMegaBattleNo1.jpg]

No. 1 Trainer (2000/2001) [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:No1Trainer00.jpg]

Victory Ring [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:VictoryRingTrainer.jpg]

Victory Orb [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:VictoryOrbTrainer.jpg]

Victory Orb (Mew) [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:VictoryMewTrainer.jpg]

I know this is a rather large request, but finding out what these cards do will be a real treat for some collectors out there (me included!) Thanks. '''[[Surf (move)|~~]]''''''[[User:nuva-kal|nuva]]''''''-'''[[User_talk:nuva-kal|'''kal''']] 20:24, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

== Can you ==

translate Romanji into English? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 04:31, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:What do you have? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:08, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::Madowazu ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:32, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::Where was that taken from? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:34, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::::A game-exclusive Dark Ninetales card from the Japanese only sequal to Pokémon GB for the Gameboy Color. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:36, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::::It appears to mean "puzzlement", according to Babel Fish. I had to convert the word into Hiragana to see. I guess because it's from a game they opted not to use Kanji because it would be hard to read. Especially on a hand-held screen. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:53, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::Thank you, this means that the oldest card we don't have a page for will now get a page. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:55, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::::::I'll go get the fireworks. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:56, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::::We don't get the fireworks until every card has a page, hopefully before September 15th, with the release of POP Series 8. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:58, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::::::::I'll just hold on to them. And wait. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:02, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

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2008-08-12T17:56:30Z

$aturn¥oshi: /* Can you */

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*Card translations for {{p|Celebi}} (pictured below).
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:Thanks! ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:31, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
::No problemo and ok.'''[[User:CoolPikachu!|♫Cool]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|Pikachu]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|!♫]]'''
== Neat ==
Your sig is cool. Where'd you learn wiki coding? --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 01:36, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah your fast '''[[User:CoolPikachu!|♫Cool]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|Pikachu]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|!♫]]'''

::I used to edit frequently on Wikipedia, until the users became too elitist. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:42, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

:::Ohh I also came from there but was on it seldomly '''[[User:CoolPikachu!|♫Cool]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|Pikachu]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|!♫]]'''

== Newcomer? ==
You're new here, too? (Oh, and I got Darkrai at Toys 'R' Us. He disliked me when I first got him! Thanks for responding back.) {{ani|385}}[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 17:29, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Apparently, it looks as though you leave something whenever I leave something on the Talk pages... A stalker Darkrai hiding in the shadows, following me? Just kidding, I actually appreciate it since I just started out today. ^.^ [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 19:44, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

== Question ==

Are you willing to do more? I can't do them myself because my computer can't read Japanese, so I can't be sure with any characters I use. I want to know how you are doing it, are you just searching attacks that the Pokémon might have? because if you are, that won't work for very long. Many of the cards have weird attacks that aren't present in the games and I was just wondering if that was how you were doing it. If you don't want to do more...I understand. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:12, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:Well then, I have a long list so we might as well get started now. {{TCG ID|5th Movie Half Deck|Oakley's Ariados|1}}. I think it would be better if I just link you the picture instead of posting the picture on your talk page: [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Oakleyariados.jpg] ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:34, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

::I won't be able to do too much right now, but I will get cracking on this as soon as I have more time. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:37, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:::That is perfectly fine. Just post the attacks on my page when you finish them! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:45, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:Okay, the following might be tough with the Poké-Body in it but: [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Samiyachatot1.jpg] I do not expect you to translate it for me right now, I am dealing with the mess known as {{TCG|"PCG-P" Promotional cards}} (which this card is actually in). ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:24, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
::A new Samiya's Chatot!! [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Samiyachatot2.jpg] ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 15:53, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
::I'm not sure about the Continuous Scratch because the damage is only 20, Continuous Scratch is an attack that would have 20× instead of just 20. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:04, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Okay. I'll give it another go. It's amazing that you can get completely different results by being just one character off. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:31, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
:If you can't get it, we can move on because I put the translation notice on the page. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:40, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Can I ask you to do something different for me? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 15:29, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah, go ahead. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:54, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::I need the kanji from the name in the top left corner for each of the following:
<gallery>
Image:Normalmovie.jpg
</gallery>
Could you do that for me please? If you click on the image, it should be bigger on the Archives. (Sorry if it seems like a lot...) ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:21, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:Well I was kinda right, something with translation~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 16:22, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::YES!!! That is exactly what I need (as far as I can tell, remember, I can't read Japanese on my computer) If you can get them all, you just pulled me out the hole I was in!! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:36, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Yay! Knocked out three. Only seven left. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:40, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::Aaron and Tory have their Jap. names already, but they have additions (like last names) added onto them. They are up there because I don't know what belongs and what doesn't. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:10, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Seven down. Three more to do! ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 00:11, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

== Diamond and Pearl Poketch ==

Actually, check the game, it says that Poketch is short for Pokemon Tech. Of this I am certain as I have had this argument with a number of people and they all agree with me now. {{Unsigned|Admiralaew}}
:Quote from the father of the President on the second floor of the Pokétch Company: "Pokémon Watch! That's Pokétch for short." ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 22:56, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

::Actually, I did check the game. It says Pokémon Watch. Those that believe you when you tell them "Pokémon Tech" are {{p2|Mareep|sheep}}. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 23:17, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

:::I'm sorry, I concede. I realized what happened, basically I wasn't paying attention, stupid me, very very sorry. On a side note, I am curious as to how you create your signature. {{Unsigned|Admiralaew}}
::::For starters, sign your comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. For info on creating a custom sig, see the new {{bp|signature policy}}. It also contains rules on what you can and can't do with your sig, so read it carefully. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 23:44, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::That's basically the gist of it. Thank you, Martonimos. If you have a good grasp on wiki coding, you can create a sig that you like. It took a while for me to come up with this one, it's a altered version of my old Wikipedia signature. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:59, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

== Adminship ==

To be honest, I don't really feel like I deserve it. I'm kind of an ass on wikis. (And wasn't TTE kind of throwing power around to clean up the Capulet disaster quicker...?) Not to sound ungrateful. ;[--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 00:32, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

:I wasn't on during that fiasco, but out of all the people that were on you were one of the few that were selected. In my eyes, that counts for something. I don't think of you as being ungrateful, you're just unsure is all. Don't worry, everything will slip into place. Of this I am confident. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 03:15, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

== Cards ==

Finally, you are done, I can put you to work on something else{{tt|*|Don't worry, this next thing will be the last thing I need you to do for me for a while, I have a lot to do right now}}! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:33, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

:Okay. :D ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 03:34, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
::I need to know what the attacks off of the following are. And once again, Thank you so much!! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:39, 18 July 2008 (UTC) 
<Gallery>
Image:Ash'sTreeckocard.jpg
Image:May'sTorchiccard.jpg
Image:Brock'sMudkipcard.jpg
</gallery>
:Thank you...the attack Treecko has is most likely Tail Slap: a move that other Treecko have in the TCG. And there actually is a Water Arrow attack; so, you are correct for those. Thank you. I won't ask you to do anything for me for a while; I have about 6 sets to finish with the information that you've given me already. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:47, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

::You are welcome. Glad I could be of service. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 22:49, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

== ok? ==
ok bro i dun care if im off 1 day or 1 week i dont go on this website everyday... dont take it too hard im not cussing at u or anything im just saying that i have a life ~~Ritchie~~

:I'm just saying that I don't care. Not to sound rude or anything. (Okay, maybe a little rude...) ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:56, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

== Congrats ==

Nice Job on getting ur missions accomplished, but u missed the Trozei! page itself--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 00:55, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:THUN THUN THUN!!!! ~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 00:57, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

::Got 'em. It's because I was looking for links. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 00:59, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:::hmm...~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 01:00, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

== Welcoming ==

Most of those were vandals and we don't welcome vandals. No biggie though, just remember for next time.''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:48, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

:Sorry, sometimes I get a little too carried away with my copy-and-pasting. Like I stated before, I wasn't on when that whole vandal war went down. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:12, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

== A favour to ask of you ==

Still in awe at the amount of work that has gone into the Japanese cards, I now have a bit of time to start mucking in again. You seem to be Orange's choice for help with these, and I'm in the same situation as him computer-wise, so could you help me with a card too?
<gallery>
Image:SkarmoryIntro.jpg
</gallery>
This is the only one I can't find a source for, I was wondering if you could get the translation for the name and text of the second attack. I know the first attack is "Peck" and the second is "Metal"-something. I can't quite make out some characters in the text. Thanks! [[User:Nuva-kal|Nuva-kal]] 20:30, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Can you also do this as well as the kirlia...I need the kanji and translation off of this and the attack if possible. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:17, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
<gallery>
Image:Celebi J promo.jpg
</gallery>
:Thank you! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 01:53, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

::Glad I could help. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:58, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Actually, I think the attack is "Light of Revival". Since it is an irregular attack, could you possibly translate the text? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:55, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

== Golden Oldies ==

Sorry to bother you again, but these card articles I want to create are so old and rare, they don't have entries in the card database, and I don't have the kanji for them to translate. So I was wondering if you could get the kanji for the title and body text for the cards listed?

Secret Super Battle No. 1 [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:SecretSuperBattleNo1.jpg]

Tropical Mega Battle No. 1 [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:TropicalMegaBattleNo1.jpg]

No. 1 Trainer (2000/2001) [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:No1Trainer00.jpg]

Victory Ring [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:VictoryRingTrainer.jpg]

Victory Orb [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:VictoryOrbTrainer.jpg]

Victory Orb (Mew) [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:VictoryMewTrainer.jpg]

I know this is a rather large request, but finding out what these cards do will be a real treat for some collectors out there (me included!) Thanks. '''[[Surf (move)|~~]]''''''[[User:nuva-kal|nuva]]''''''-'''[[User_talk:nuva-kal|'''kal''']] 20:24, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

== Can you ==

translate Romanji into English? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 04:31, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:What do you have? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:08, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::Madowazu ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:32, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::Where was that taken from? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:34, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::::A game-exclusive Dark Ninetales card from the Japanese only sequal to Pokémon GB for the Gameboy Color. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:36, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::::It appears to mean "puzzlement", according to Babel Fish. I had to convert the word into Hiragana to see. I guess because it's from a game they opted not to use Kanji because it would be hard to read. Especially on a hand-held screen. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:53, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::Thank you, this means that the oldest card we don't have a page for will now get a page. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:55, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::::::I'll go get the fireworks. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:56, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

User talk:$aturn¥oshi

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$aturn¥oshi: /* Can you */

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And... No, my name does ''not'' come from a [[Saturn|member]] of [[Team Galactic]].
 
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*[[Glitch|Glitches]] are not real [[MissingNo.|Pokémon]], however, glitches can be real {{wp|Donkey|users}}...
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==Welcome==
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*Keep an eye on the {{bp|Messages from the Editor}} on the main page, to stay informed on current events on Bulbapedia.
*The word [[Pokémon]] is spelled with a capital '''P''' and an accented '''é'''. The é can be accessed by holding Alt and typing either '''130''' or '''0233''' on a Windows computer, and by using Option + e, then e again on a Mac. Otherwise, you can easily click it in the character palette below the editbox.
*The word [[Poké Ball]] is spelled as two words. The "Poké" part is identical to the four beginning letters in "Pokémon"; "Ball" is spelled with a capital '''B'''. The spelling "Pokéball" arises frequently, but is incorrect.
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*For a future capture, release, trade, or evolution of a Pokémon belonging to a main character of the {{pkmn|anime}}, please do not create or move the page to reflect your suspicions, even if they are shared by many others. Policy here is to wait until the episode in which the event happens takes place is aired, unless there is substantial evidence for the suspicion (such as [[Brock's Happiny]] being held in his arms).
*Image uploading is done on [[Bulbagarden Archives]], a separate wiki accessible through the toolbox in the sidebar. You will have to register separately for it, as well. This is done so that both Bulbapedia and [[Bulbanews]] have access to the images uploaded.
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Thank you, and have a good time editing here! --[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 01:23, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

:Thanks! ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:31, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
::No problemo and ok.'''[[User:CoolPikachu!|♫Cool]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|Pikachu]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|!♫]]'''
== Neat ==
Your sig is cool. Where'd you learn wiki coding? --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 01:36, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah your fast '''[[User:CoolPikachu!|♫Cool]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|Pikachu]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|!♫]]'''

::I used to edit frequently on Wikipedia, until the users became too elitist. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:42, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

:::Ohh I also came from there but was on it seldomly '''[[User:CoolPikachu!|♫Cool]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|Pikachu]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|!♫]]'''

== Newcomer? ==
You're new here, too? (Oh, and I got Darkrai at Toys 'R' Us. He disliked me when I first got him! Thanks for responding back.) {{ani|385}}[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 17:29, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Apparently, it looks as though you leave something whenever I leave something on the Talk pages... A stalker Darkrai hiding in the shadows, following me? Just kidding, I actually appreciate it since I just started out today. ^.^ [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 19:44, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

== Question ==

Are you willing to do more? I can't do them myself because my computer can't read Japanese, so I can't be sure with any characters I use. I want to know how you are doing it, are you just searching attacks that the Pokémon might have? because if you are, that won't work for very long. Many of the cards have weird attacks that aren't present in the games and I was just wondering if that was how you were doing it. If you don't want to do more...I understand. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:12, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:Well then, I have a long list so we might as well get started now. {{TCG ID|5th Movie Half Deck|Oakley's Ariados|1}}. I think it would be better if I just link you the picture instead of posting the picture on your talk page: [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Oakleyariados.jpg] ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:34, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

::I won't be able to do too much right now, but I will get cracking on this as soon as I have more time. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:37, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:::That is perfectly fine. Just post the attacks on my page when you finish them! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:45, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:Okay, the following might be tough with the Poké-Body in it but: [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Samiyachatot1.jpg] I do not expect you to translate it for me right now, I am dealing with the mess known as {{TCG|"PCG-P" Promotional cards}} (which this card is actually in). ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:24, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
::A new Samiya's Chatot!! [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Samiyachatot2.jpg] ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 15:53, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
::I'm not sure about the Continuous Scratch because the damage is only 20, Continuous Scratch is an attack that would have 20× instead of just 20. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:04, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Okay. I'll give it another go. It's amazing that you can get completely different results by being just one character off. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:31, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
:If you can't get it, we can move on because I put the translation notice on the page. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:40, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Can I ask you to do something different for me? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 15:29, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah, go ahead. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:54, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::I need the kanji from the name in the top left corner for each of the following:
<gallery>
Image:Normalmovie.jpg
</gallery>
Could you do that for me please? If you click on the image, it should be bigger on the Archives. (Sorry if it seems like a lot...) ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:21, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:Well I was kinda right, something with translation~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 16:22, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::YES!!! That is exactly what I need (as far as I can tell, remember, I can't read Japanese on my computer) If you can get them all, you just pulled me out the hole I was in!! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:36, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Yay! Knocked out three. Only seven left. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:40, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::Aaron and Tory have their Jap. names already, but they have additions (like last names) added onto them. They are up there because I don't know what belongs and what doesn't. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:10, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Seven down. Three more to do! ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 00:11, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

== Diamond and Pearl Poketch ==

Actually, check the game, it says that Poketch is short for Pokemon Tech. Of this I am certain as I have had this argument with a number of people and they all agree with me now. {{Unsigned|Admiralaew}}
:Quote from the father of the President on the second floor of the Pokétch Company: "Pokémon Watch! That's Pokétch for short." ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 22:56, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

::Actually, I did check the game. It says Pokémon Watch. Those that believe you when you tell them "Pokémon Tech" are {{p2|Mareep|sheep}}. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 23:17, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

:::I'm sorry, I concede. I realized what happened, basically I wasn't paying attention, stupid me, very very sorry. On a side note, I am curious as to how you create your signature. {{Unsigned|Admiralaew}}
::::For starters, sign your comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. For info on creating a custom sig, see the new {{bp|signature policy}}. It also contains rules on what you can and can't do with your sig, so read it carefully. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 23:44, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::That's basically the gist of it. Thank you, Martonimos. If you have a good grasp on wiki coding, you can create a sig that you like. It took a while for me to come up with this one, it's a altered version of my old Wikipedia signature. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:59, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

== Adminship ==

To be honest, I don't really feel like I deserve it. I'm kind of an ass on wikis. (And wasn't TTE kind of throwing power around to clean up the Capulet disaster quicker...?) Not to sound ungrateful. ;[--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 00:32, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

:I wasn't on during that fiasco, but out of all the people that were on you were one of the few that were selected. In my eyes, that counts for something. I don't think of you as being ungrateful, you're just unsure is all. Don't worry, everything will slip into place. Of this I am confident. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 03:15, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

== Cards ==

Finally, you are done, I can put you to work on something else{{tt|*|Don't worry, this next thing will be the last thing I need you to do for me for a while, I have a lot to do right now}}! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:33, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

:Okay. :D ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 03:34, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
::I need to know what the attacks off of the following are. And once again, Thank you so much!! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:39, 18 July 2008 (UTC) 
<Gallery>
Image:Ash'sTreeckocard.jpg
Image:May'sTorchiccard.jpg
Image:Brock'sMudkipcard.jpg
</gallery>
:Thank you...the attack Treecko has is most likely Tail Slap: a move that other Treecko have in the TCG. And there actually is a Water Arrow attack; so, you are correct for those. Thank you. I won't ask you to do anything for me for a while; I have about 6 sets to finish with the information that you've given me already. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:47, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

::You are welcome. Glad I could be of service. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 22:49, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

== ok? ==
ok bro i dun care if im off 1 day or 1 week i dont go on this website everyday... dont take it too hard im not cussing at u or anything im just saying that i have a life ~~Ritchie~~

:I'm just saying that I don't care. Not to sound rude or anything. (Okay, maybe a little rude...) ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:56, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

== Congrats ==

Nice Job on getting ur missions accomplished, but u missed the Trozei! page itself--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 00:55, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:THUN THUN THUN!!!! ~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 00:57, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

::Got 'em. It's because I was looking for links. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 00:59, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:::hmm...~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 01:00, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

== Welcoming ==

Most of those were vandals and we don't welcome vandals. No biggie though, just remember for next time.''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:48, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

:Sorry, sometimes I get a little too carried away with my copy-and-pasting. Like I stated before, I wasn't on when that whole vandal war went down. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:12, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

== A favour to ask of you ==

Still in awe at the amount of work that has gone into the Japanese cards, I now have a bit of time to start mucking in again. You seem to be Orange's choice for help with these, and I'm in the same situation as him computer-wise, so could you help me with a card too?
<gallery>
Image:SkarmoryIntro.jpg
</gallery>
This is the only one I can't find a source for, I was wondering if you could get the translation for the name and text of the second attack. I know the first attack is "Peck" and the second is "Metal"-something. I can't quite make out some characters in the text. Thanks! [[User:Nuva-kal|Nuva-kal]] 20:30, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Can you also do this as well as the kirlia...I need the kanji and translation off of this and the attack if possible. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:17, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
<gallery>
Image:Celebi J promo.jpg
</gallery>
:Thank you! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 01:53, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

::Glad I could help. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:58, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Actually, I think the attack is "Light of Revival". Since it is an irregular attack, could you possibly translate the text? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:55, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

== Golden Oldies ==

Sorry to bother you again, but these card articles I want to create are so old and rare, they don't have entries in the card database, and I don't have the kanji for them to translate. So I was wondering if you could get the kanji for the title and body text for the cards listed?

Secret Super Battle No. 1 [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:SecretSuperBattleNo1.jpg]

Tropical Mega Battle No. 1 [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:TropicalMegaBattleNo1.jpg]

No. 1 Trainer (2000/2001) [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:No1Trainer00.jpg]

Victory Ring [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:VictoryRingTrainer.jpg]

Victory Orb [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:VictoryOrbTrainer.jpg]

Victory Orb (Mew) [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:VictoryMewTrainer.jpg]

I know this is a rather large request, but finding out what these cards do will be a real treat for some collectors out there (me included!) Thanks. '''[[Surf (move)|~~]]''''''[[User:nuva-kal|nuva]]''''''-'''[[User_talk:nuva-kal|'''kal''']] 20:24, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

== Can you ==

translate Romanji into English? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 04:31, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:What do you have? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:08, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::Madowazu ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:32, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::Where was that taken from? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:34, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::::A game-exclusive Dark Ninetales card from the Japanese only sequal to Pokémon GB for the Gameboy Color. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:36, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::::It appears to mean "puzzlement", according to Babel Fish. I had to convert the word into Hiragana to see. I guess because it's from a game they opted not to use Kanji because it would be hard to read. Especially on a hand-held screen. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:53, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

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:Thanks! ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:31, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
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== Neat ==
Your sig is cool. Where'd you learn wiki coding? --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 01:36, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah your fast '''[[User:CoolPikachu!|♫Cool]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|Pikachu]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|!♫]]'''

::I used to edit frequently on Wikipedia, until the users became too elitist. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:42, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

:::Ohh I also came from there but was on it seldomly '''[[User:CoolPikachu!|♫Cool]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|Pikachu]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|!♫]]'''

== Newcomer? ==
You're new here, too? (Oh, and I got Darkrai at Toys 'R' Us. He disliked me when I first got him! Thanks for responding back.) {{ani|385}}[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 17:29, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Apparently, it looks as though you leave something whenever I leave something on the Talk pages... A stalker Darkrai hiding in the shadows, following me? Just kidding, I actually appreciate it since I just started out today. ^.^ [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 19:44, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

== Question ==

Are you willing to do more? I can't do them myself because my computer can't read Japanese, so I can't be sure with any characters I use. I want to know how you are doing it, are you just searching attacks that the Pokémon might have? because if you are, that won't work for very long. Many of the cards have weird attacks that aren't present in the games and I was just wondering if that was how you were doing it. If you don't want to do more...I understand. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:12, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:Well then, I have a long list so we might as well get started now. {{TCG ID|5th Movie Half Deck|Oakley's Ariados|1}}. I think it would be better if I just link you the picture instead of posting the picture on your talk page: [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Oakleyariados.jpg] ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:34, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

::I won't be able to do too much right now, but I will get cracking on this as soon as I have more time. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:37, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:::That is perfectly fine. Just post the attacks on my page when you finish them! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:45, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:Okay, the following might be tough with the Poké-Body in it but: [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Samiyachatot1.jpg] I do not expect you to translate it for me right now, I am dealing with the mess known as {{TCG|"PCG-P" Promotional cards}} (which this card is actually in). ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:24, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
::A new Samiya's Chatot!! [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Samiyachatot2.jpg] ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 15:53, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
::I'm not sure about the Continuous Scratch because the damage is only 20, Continuous Scratch is an attack that would have 20× instead of just 20. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:04, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Okay. I'll give it another go. It's amazing that you can get completely different results by being just one character off. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:31, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
:If you can't get it, we can move on because I put the translation notice on the page. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:40, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Can I ask you to do something different for me? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 15:29, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah, go ahead. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:54, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::I need the kanji from the name in the top left corner for each of the following:
<gallery>
Image:Normalmovie.jpg
</gallery>
Could you do that for me please? If you click on the image, it should be bigger on the Archives. (Sorry if it seems like a lot...) ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:21, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:Well I was kinda right, something with translation~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 16:22, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::YES!!! That is exactly what I need (as far as I can tell, remember, I can't read Japanese on my computer) If you can get them all, you just pulled me out the hole I was in!! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:36, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Yay! Knocked out three. Only seven left. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:40, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::Aaron and Tory have their Jap. names already, but they have additions (like last names) added onto them. They are up there because I don't know what belongs and what doesn't. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:10, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Seven down. Three more to do! ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 00:11, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

== Diamond and Pearl Poketch ==

Actually, check the game, it says that Poketch is short for Pokemon Tech. Of this I am certain as I have had this argument with a number of people and they all agree with me now. {{Unsigned|Admiralaew}}
:Quote from the father of the President on the second floor of the Pokétch Company: "Pokémon Watch! That's Pokétch for short." ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 22:56, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

::Actually, I did check the game. It says Pokémon Watch. Those that believe you when you tell them "Pokémon Tech" are {{p2|Mareep|sheep}}. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 23:17, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

:::I'm sorry, I concede. I realized what happened, basically I wasn't paying attention, stupid me, very very sorry. On a side note, I am curious as to how you create your signature. {{Unsigned|Admiralaew}}
::::For starters, sign your comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. For info on creating a custom sig, see the new {{bp|signature policy}}. It also contains rules on what you can and can't do with your sig, so read it carefully. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 23:44, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::That's basically the gist of it. Thank you, Martonimos. If you have a good grasp on wiki coding, you can create a sig that you like. It took a while for me to come up with this one, it's a altered version of my old Wikipedia signature. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:59, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

== Adminship ==

To be honest, I don't really feel like I deserve it. I'm kind of an ass on wikis. (And wasn't TTE kind of throwing power around to clean up the Capulet disaster quicker...?) Not to sound ungrateful. ;[--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 00:32, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

:I wasn't on during that fiasco, but out of all the people that were on you were one of the few that were selected. In my eyes, that counts for something. I don't think of you as being ungrateful, you're just unsure is all. Don't worry, everything will slip into place. Of this I am confident. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 03:15, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

== Cards ==

Finally, you are done, I can put you to work on something else{{tt|*|Don't worry, this next thing will be the last thing I need you to do for me for a while, I have a lot to do right now}}! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:33, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

:Okay. :D ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 03:34, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
::I need to know what the attacks off of the following are. And once again, Thank you so much!! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:39, 18 July 2008 (UTC) 
<Gallery>
Image:Ash'sTreeckocard.jpg
Image:May'sTorchiccard.jpg
Image:Brock'sMudkipcard.jpg
</gallery>
:Thank you...the attack Treecko has is most likely Tail Slap: a move that other Treecko have in the TCG. And there actually is a Water Arrow attack; so, you are correct for those. Thank you. I won't ask you to do anything for me for a while; I have about 6 sets to finish with the information that you've given me already. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:47, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

::You are welcome. Glad I could be of service. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 22:49, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

== ok? ==
ok bro i dun care if im off 1 day or 1 week i dont go on this website everyday... dont take it too hard im not cussing at u or anything im just saying that i have a life ~~Ritchie~~

:I'm just saying that I don't care. Not to sound rude or anything. (Okay, maybe a little rude...) ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:56, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

== Congrats ==

Nice Job on getting ur missions accomplished, but u missed the Trozei! page itself--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 00:55, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:THUN THUN THUN!!!! ~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 00:57, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

::Got 'em. It's because I was looking for links. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 00:59, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:::hmm...~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 01:00, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

== Welcoming ==

Most of those were vandals and we don't welcome vandals. No biggie though, just remember for next time.''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:48, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

:Sorry, sometimes I get a little too carried away with my copy-and-pasting. Like I stated before, I wasn't on when that whole vandal war went down. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:12, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

== A favour to ask of you ==

Still in awe at the amount of work that has gone into the Japanese cards, I now have a bit of time to start mucking in again. You seem to be Orange's choice for help with these, and I'm in the same situation as him computer-wise, so could you help me with a card too?
<gallery>
Image:SkarmoryIntro.jpg
</gallery>
This is the only one I can't find a source for, I was wondering if you could get the translation for the name and text of the second attack. I know the first attack is "Peck" and the second is "Metal"-something. I can't quite make out some characters in the text. Thanks! [[User:Nuva-kal|Nuva-kal]] 20:30, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Can you also do this as well as the kirlia...I need the kanji and translation off of this and the attack if possible. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:17, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
<gallery>
Image:Celebi J promo.jpg
</gallery>
:Thank you! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 01:53, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

::Glad I could help. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:58, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Actually, I think the attack is "Light of Revival". Since it is an irregular attack, could you possibly translate the text? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:55, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

== Golden Oldies ==

Sorry to bother you again, but these card articles I want to create are so old and rare, they don't have entries in the card database, and I don't have the kanji for them to translate. So I was wondering if you could get the kanji for the title and body text for the cards listed?

Secret Super Battle No. 1 [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:SecretSuperBattleNo1.jpg]

Tropical Mega Battle No. 1 [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:TropicalMegaBattleNo1.jpg]

No. 1 Trainer (2000/2001) [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:No1Trainer00.jpg]

Victory Ring [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:VictoryRingTrainer.jpg]

Victory Orb [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:VictoryOrbTrainer.jpg]

Victory Orb (Mew) [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:VictoryMewTrainer.jpg]

I know this is a rather large request, but finding out what these cards do will be a real treat for some collectors out there (me included!) Thanks. '''[[Surf (move)|~~]]''''''[[User:nuva-kal|nuva]]''''''-'''[[User_talk:nuva-kal|'''kal''']] 20:24, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

== Can you ==

translate Romanji into English? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 04:31, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:What do you have? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:08, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::Madowazu ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:32, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::Where was that taken from? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:34, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

User:$aturn¥oshi

2008-08-12T17:28:12Z

$aturn¥oshi:

'''Under construction.'''
<div class="userbox">
{{User_talk:Origamiguy/Prizes/User Donated Mudkip}}
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User talk:Martonimos/Archive 1

2008-08-12T17:06:28Z

$aturn¥oshi: /* a couple of things */

==Welcome==
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Thank you, and have a good time editing here! [[Image:491.png|45px 45px]][[User:Kpokefan|'''K''']][[User talk:Kpokefan|'''P''']][[User:Kpokefan/Missions|'''F''']][[Image:Cal.png|30px 30px]] 16:10, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

== Link templates ==

They're pretty much ''required'' when you link a Pokémon's species. Remember, there are like, seven bajillion [[Pikachu]]. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 14:08, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
:I don't remember linking to Pikachu recently... which page did I do this on? --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]] 23:30, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
::Never mind, I see what you mean. In my defense, I'm not the one who made those links, but you're right that I should have repaired them before you did. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]] 23:36, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

== About my talk page ==

Did you see that I signed my name [[User talk:Kuki]] above it?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]] 22:44, 3 April 2008 (UTC)Kuki
:I'm not sure what you mean... everyone's user talk page has their name at the top of it. I mean, scroll up, and you'll see '''User talk:Martonimos''' above all this. I was talking about other pages, though. Most recently, for example, you left a comment on [[Talk:Wallace]] about Milotic, and didn't sign it. That said, you did sign this comment on my page, so I'm glad to see that you're taking care of it. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]] 22:51, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

As long as you saw it, would you like to read my story?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]] 22:54, 3 April 2008 (UTC)Kuki

:Maybe. I'm a little backlogged on the fics I have to read, though, and I haven't written anything in months... but I'll check it out if I have time. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]] 23:05, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Do u promise 2 read '''''and''''' review?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]] 23:17, 3 April 2008 (UTC)Kuki

:If I read it, I'll review it. I always do. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]] 23:35, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

==Raichu==
Why did you put this on the Raichu page?:

=Biology=
- Raichu is similar to a Pickachu, only more gay. How is this possible? Raichu has more colors and more flamboyant features such as curly ears and a long, phallic tail with a fabulous lightning bolt. Only people named Dan like this particular pokemon, which is apparent by the tribal Hot Topic earring Dans wear that resemble the gay curls of Raichu's ears.
- If you like Raichu, you must be a real man. And by man, I mean transvestite.
==Physiology==
- Raichu is a rather small bipedal rodent. It's able to run faster on all fours. Like Pikachu, from which it evolves, Raichu has long ears and feet, and stubby arms. Also like Pikachu, Raichu has two horizontal brown stripes on its back. Its long, thin tail has a broad, lightning bolt-shaped end. Raichu is a rather small bipedal rodent. It's able to run faster on all fours. Like Pikachu, from which it evolves, Raichu has long ears and feet, and stubby arms. Also like Pikachu, Raichu has two horizontal brown stripes on its back. Its long, thin tail has a broad, lightning bolt-shaped end.
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==Diet==
- Semen. Anyone who edits this fact that Raichu enjoys semen will die from the ghost of a pokemon crazed girl who died when her classmates pushed her down a well. Repost her story in five minutes on another pokemon page or she will haunt you and steal all of your pokemon cards.

{{u|MathijsP}}

:I ''didn't'' put those things on Raichu's page, I took them off. [[User:Forthelulz]] is the one who put them on. I've reverted all five of his edits so far, and I was hoping TTEchidna would block him before he could make any more. Luckily, he's been inactive for some time now, so I guess he's done for the night.
:That said, this is the second time I've gotten in trouble for someone else's edits. Are you having trouble viewing the recent changes? Because I'm growing tired of it. If you'd like to help me stop this vandal, then please, go ahead, but please do your homework before pinning the blame on me.
:I don't mean to sound offensive, but as I've said, I'm getting tired. Thank you for your time. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]] 07:16, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

== Anti-Combo Breaker ==

edit conflicts have nothing to do with the server. in fact, somtimes, when the server is fast, it happens more often. basically when two people post at the same time. or one person posts and the other is editing, then posts. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:00, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
:I know. I was trying to express annoyance that you and TTE got to post five or six times because I had to edit my post each time to fit the conversation. I wasn't sure of what to say, so I just put a "YOU RUDDY SERVER!" at the end. Besides, if the server were faster, maybe I could have had the second post in that conversation, rather than the last. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 04:02, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
::ive been there, one time, i was on a page and about 4-5 people were posting at the same time... -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:03, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
:::So... sorry about the outburst. This is actually the second time today this has happened; two users started picking on each other on [[Talk:May (anime)|May's talk page]] while I was trying to ask a question, so I wound up trying to mediate between them, only to find that the conflict had escalated while I was typing. Still, it was pretty dumb to write that edit summary. It seemed like a good idea at the time. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 04:26, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
::::no need to aplogize. i can see where you were comming from. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:32, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

== Gen ==

your userpage states you only being a player of Silver. do you not have any other game, or do you just not have tags for them? btw, the first rule of Fight Club is - you do not talk about Fight Club. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:32, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
:I do have some others. Silver's the only one I play currently (and I haven't even touched that in weeks), but I also own Blue and Yellow, and I have a Sapphire somewhere, though I can't find it anywhere. I also have Ranger, which is currently in my brother's posession. I guess I should at least mention them... I do have an updated version of this page saved on my hard drive. I'll upload it, along with my GSDS page, when the edit ban gets lifted. And you're here because someone broke the rules. Somebody told you about Fight Club. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 01:47, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
::the ol "edit the page somwhere else" strategy. got it. i did that back during the server lock down, and back when the server was junk. just dont expect much in the way of user space when the ban is lifted (as in, talks of 5 edits a day sort of thing). and, just as long as i dont have to mention Rule #2..  -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:45, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
:::Well, thanks to having everything done already (and a little button titled "preview") it should take me two edits at most to get everything up. I'm probably going to wait a few days after the ban is lifted to make them anyway, just because there'll be a huge flood of edits shortly afterwards (even if it's only five a day, five edits per user times several hundred users equals a lot of edits, and a lot of strain on the server). So like I said, it shouldn't matter. I just figured I'd write up some predictions on GSDS and edit the Fight Club and Dune tags so they have more than one color. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 03:12, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
::::ah, i see. all i need to do is remove the "notice" on my page (as im done with SSBB single player), maybe move the 2nd notice (as its not really important and i only wanted it there as maybe a one week joke), maybe add something alluding to my birthday (as i remain anonymous right now), and lastly, update my Teams page. maybe even condense the whole page and then delete it. and, if i have an edit left, i can do a sprite page update in one edit easy (as people seem to actually like that page). ive got it planned out as well. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:00, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

== thankyou ==

Thanks by the way for the help on link templates.

p.s reading your other talk bit, When is the user space going to get unlocked, I have never been able to do it because I joined in the ban.
[[User:Sailor Earth|Sailor Earth]] 20:58, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

In fact you could go 1 step further and teach me how to do Tables and changing your signature. <nowiki>:)</nowiki>
{sorry just learnt how to add no wiki so tried it}
:Hmm... let's see. The User Space was locked back in March, and though TTEchidna kept promising it would be "just another week" before they got everything figured out, it's been several months by now. I think most of us just aren't getting our hopes up. You're familiar with the problem, right? People were editing their userpages so much that 1) The server was bogged down with their edits, and 2) They were ignoring the main space. They locked down the userspace to stop this, and it's worked pretty well so far. The admins aren't cruel, though (certain April Fool's jokes aside), and they're trying to get them back by limiting the number of times we could edit them per day. The problem is, there's no way to prevent users from editing their userspaces too much short of manually policing their edits and stopping them when they go too far. So it'll probably be a while yet before they can figure something out. <strike>In the meantime, some people are putting content they would put on their user page on their user talk page to be moved later. While this seems OK to me, don't do it too much.</strike> If people start editing their talk pages as much as they used to edit their user pages, those'll get blocked as well, and that'd ''really'' cause trouble for us. '''EDIT:''' Ignore the struck-through parts. Nobody should be using their user talk pages for userpages, as that circumvents the purpose of the ban and bogs down the server just as badly.
:Doing your signature is easy. Click on "preferences" in the row of links at the top of any page when you're logged in. Scroll down to where it says "nickname," check the box that says "raw signatures," and enter your signature code into the "nickname" field. It'll handle both wikicode and html, so you can do cool stuff like [[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]]. BUT! Before making a signature, be sure you look at the new {{bp|signature policy}} to make sure your sig complies with the rules.
:Tables are pretty hard, at least for me. Whenever I see a table that needs fixing, I run screaming and wait for someone who knows what they're doing to take care of it. The {{bp|manual of style}} has a crash course in them, so I'll summarize that here. Basically, the code
<nowiki>{|
! Top cell 1
! Top cell 2
|-
| Thingy
| Other thingy
|-
| Another thingy
| More thingies
|-
| Doohicky
| Yet another thingy
|-
| Second-to-last thingy
| Last thingy
|}</nowiki>
:will get you
{|
! Top cell 1
! Top cell 2
|-
| Thingy
| Other thingy
|-
| Another thingy
| More thingies
|-
| Doohicky
| Yet another thingy
|-
| Second-to-last thingy
| Last thingy
|}
:As you can see, you separate cells with a <code>|</code> and rows with a <code>|-</code>. For fanciness, add borders by using something like <code><nowiki>{| style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse;"</nowiki></code> in place of just <code><nowiki>{|</nowiki></code> in the top line.
:If, on the other hand, you were asking about tables like the ones on top of [[User talk:Tina|these]] [[User talk:Jioruji Derako|guys']] [[User talk:Porygon-Z|talk]] [[User talk:Patriotfan09|pages]], I can't really help you. You're better off asking one of them (probably {{u|Jioruji Derako}}, since he's apparently the one who came up with it).
:If there's anything else you need, just let me know. I can't do everything (yet), but I can try. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 21:38, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Thankyou so much <nowiki>:)</nowiki> [[User:Sailor Earth|Sailor Earth]] 21:47, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

I tried making a template for those box things (just to add something to the community)[[Template:Good Friend]] and I tried adding a picture of Pikachu and Pachirisu on the template but it put one underneath the other, is there anyway to make them next to eachother so they go

pic 1 → pic 2 then carries on with the writing
[[User:Sailor Earth|セーラー地球]] 15:44, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

== help ==

I tried making a template for those box things (just to add something to the community)[[Template:Good Friend]] and I tried adding a picture of Pikachu and Pachirisu on the template but it put one underneath the other, is there anyway to make them next to eachother so they go

pic 1 → pic 2 then carries on with the writing
[[User:Sailor Earth|セーラー地球]] 15:44, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
:First of all, try to avoid making a comment twice. Second of all, it looks like you've got it figured out, so good work. That said, the image part of the box you created is twice as long as most others as a result of having two images, so maybe you should reduce their size so they mesh better with the other boxes. [[Template:User Jewish]], for example, has three images, but they all fit in the space of one. It's just a suggestion, but you may want to try it. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 20:46, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

== um ==

it's not thatI make mistakes and have to change it, it's that I have to save then find more templates to add.

Thanks for all the advice and for looking at that userbox for me. ShiningPikablu fixed it in the end but thanks for going to do it anyway. Like I said to Kenji-Girl I'm limiting my edits to 5 a day. [[User:Sailor Earth|セーラー地球]] 21:25, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
:Just open a new window or tab. You can find the userboxes with one, and edit them into your page with the other. Both [[wp:Safari (web browser)|Safari]] and {{wp|Mozilla Firefox}}, as well as countless other browsers, support multiple tabs, so if you don't have one of those, get whichever is more appropriate for your OS.
:Now. I 'm glad you're limiting yourself to five edits a day. If everyone had done that three months ago, we wouldn't have a userspace edit ban at all. BUT. Even that is going to get you in trouble, so here's what I suggest. You don't have to put anything on a page ''at all''. You can put the wikicode into a '''text file''' and save that to your computer. Then you can edit the text file all you want, without causing any trouble for the server. When you need to preview it, go to the {{bp|sandbox}}, copy the code from the text file into the sandbox, and just hit "show preview." If something needs changing, change it and preview it again until it's fixed. In the end, you don't even have to save the changes in the sandbox; just save everything in the text document once you're done. The server doesn't have to deal with the changes, and you won't have anyone yelling at you for making them. I've done this with my own user page, as well as a page full of [[Pokémon Gold and Silver remakes|GSDS]] predictions, so I can make a total of two edits after the ban is lifted and I'll be done for a long time.
:Try it. If you need any help, contact me or one of the other friends you've made here. We may act like dicks sometimes, but we're largely willing to help. Just don't clog up the recent changes with user talk page edits; you're giving other users ideas, and if this spreads too far, we'll never be able to clean it up. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 21:43, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

== Take this ==

This is the Template {{user Good Friend}} and you deserve it as a Thankyou.
[[User:Sailor Earth|セーラー地球]] 21:27, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

== Thanks! ==

Thanks for the help. Can I delete all the stuff on my talk page and start fresh? {{unsigned|Purpleknowitall}}
:Not ''all'' of it, no. Keeping comments and the welcome message on your page are official policy, and you'll get in trouble if you try to erase any of those. I don't know that it'd make a difference to remove the tags you have now, although you probably should remove them once we get the userspace back. But don't add any more. Like I said, write them down or copy the code into a text file. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 01:54, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

== "Deoxys's Four Forms Retconned" ==

I thought that's what you meant. The thing is, though, Deoxys's forms have always used the French "Forme" rather than "Form". At least, in things directly from Nintendo. Just wanted to let you know. [[User:Deoxys911|Deoxys911]] 22:54, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
:Wait, what? What "things" are you talking about, exactly? As far as I know (and everyone else here also, apparently), the whole Forme mess only started when Giratina's Formes were unveiled to the Japanese. If what you're saying is right... well, I don't know quite what it would mean, but it'd definitely be important. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 23:33, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
::I can't actually remember, but I know for a fact that Nintendo has been using "forme" for Deoxys the whole time. Prima Games as well. EDIT: OK, [http://pokemon.com/#news_/XML/news_3.xml here] is an example. [[User:Deoxys911|Deoxys911]] 03:18, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Hmm. Interesting, but it doesn't actually prove it. The people at Pokémon.com could change that page just as easily as the Pokédex itself. If you could provide a scan of something in print that was published back then, like a page from a Prima guide that uses the word "Forme," that'd be perfect. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 04:21, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
::::I have a Prima guide from 2006 that uses "Forme." I don't have a scanner, but I'll take a picture of the page. If it's clear enough, I'll provide a link. EDIT: OK, my camera can't get a picture with clear text. But look in any Pokémon guide book that has Deoxys's four formes, and look at how they spell "form." It's with an "e" at the end. [[User:Deoxys911|Deoxys911]] 20:42, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::As of 10:11 on 21 May 2008, {{u|Optimus35}} confirmed your claim over [[Talk:Form differences#Deoxys.|here]]. I owe you an apology for having doubted you. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 19:42, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

== ok ==

thankyou for welcoming me back and by the way, when I was banned I read on a talk page that I never responded to your idea about my good friend template, so sorry for that and thankyou for your support and good idea, I wasn't being rude and ignoring you, I just must have forgot. But thankyou anyway.
[[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 18:24, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:Don't listen to him!! He is a stupid little theif that I hate!! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:27, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Who's a thief???[[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 18:24, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:Don't worry about it, Guardian. Moldy, who's a thief and what did he steal? --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 18:39, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
::Look, I don't mind that you want to be called Guardian instead of Sailor, but you shouldn't do that again. Editing other people's comments is against Bulbapedia policy. You don't exactly have a great track record with Sp252, so watch your step. If you can avoid breaking any rules (take another look at both the [[Template:welcome|welcome message]] and{{bp|manual of style}}; anything not listed in those is pretty much common sense), anyone whose trust you've lost will grow to like you again over time. Just be careful in the meantime.
::Oh, and while we're at it, don't forget the "preview" button. Making multiple edits to your talk page just to test your sig is completely unecessary. Just hit "save changes" in the Preferences tab after you've done editing your sig, go to any talk page, type <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>, and hit "Show Preview." It'll show your updated sig. If you have another window or tab open, you can go to Preferences and edit the sig in one while you keep hitting the "preview" button in the other. That's how I got my sig to look like [[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 19:13, 2 June 2008 (UTC).
:::Where to start...well, this kid completely stole the table from my talk page. I wouldn't be as mad about it if he would have changed the colors of it like everyone else, but no! He Completely took the entire thing, the exact colors, and he didn't even changed what I had written there. It was exactly what I spent three days perfecting (except for about three words) and now mine looks like crap!! I usually don't get this angry, but I can't stand being taken advantage of by this [[twerp]]! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:40, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
::::Ah yes. I recall you mentioning that... in an edit summary. This is really something you should have taken up with Guardian himself right away; there's no real reason to bring me into it, or to sit on it for this long. But I'll do my best to settle this peacefully.
::::Guardian, I get the feeling that you lifted the code from Moldy's page, pasted it directly on yours, and saved it without a second thought. Only later did you edit the text to be slightly different, and you still left the colors alone. This applies to the same things {{u|Kenji-girl}} and I have been telling you all along; use the preview button. There's no reason to slap the table on there, save it, and ''then'' edit it to match your preferences. It's easier on the server and makes you look more professional when you can do all your editing in one fell swoop. And like Moldy said, it'd be nice if you could come up with your own color scheme and text to put there, because ripping him off like that is pretty dumb. Look, in a few minutes, I'll put one of those tables on top of my page to try and demonstrate what I mean. For now, though, you should change your color scheme so Moldy can have his back.
::::Moldy, like I said, this is really something you should bring up with Guardian himself. I agree with you that he shouldn't have ripped you off so blatantly, but there was no real reason for you to wait until he posted here to actually approach him about it. Mostly, I'm just wondering why you didn't keep your color scheme and ask him to change his. Anyway, it doesn't matter now; just keep it in mind for future conflicts.
::::That's all I have to say for now. Let's take care of this quickly. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 20:02, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::OK, I've posted it. I lifted most of the code from {{u|Porygon-Z}} and a little from {{u|Tina}}, but as you can see, it's not quite the same as either of theirs. What's more, if you'll look at the history, you can see that I only took one edit to add it. What you can't see is the five hundred times I previewed that damned thing to get it looking just right (and the links still look ugly against that background... I don't feel like fixing it now, though). I know I sound like a broken record, but the preview button and multiple tabs are your friends. Use them as best you can, and it'll keep you out of a lot of trouble. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 21:39, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

== Alright then. ==

I'm changing the the Table as I don't want to be seen as being mean to Moldy Orange and I am sorry if he doesn't want anyone else using his colours so I want to change the colours.

That's when we hit a problem, I just made about 30 previews and I couldn't work it out. The code is in a strange order and once you change it and preview it there is no way of going back without having to completely restart it.

So could you please help. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 11:48, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

*I want the top bit about messages background in Green and the top text Gold.

*The notices background to be blue with red writing.

*The archives background yellow, with one of those white boxes like in Table of Contents with black writing.

*Table of Contents background, red with the white box in the middle with blue writing.

*The sludge coloured border between everything to be white.

I am going to use a sandbox, to experiment first then put it on my page. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 11:51, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Okay I have changed the backgrounds and it looks really good. Can you please help by,

*telling me how to change the top box's font to silver,
*Archive numbers to silver and
*Notices text to red FF0000
[[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 12:46, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:You've got options here. You can either use <nowiki><font="#HEXCOD">, , or {{color|HEXCOD}}</nowiki> (where HEXCOD, obviously, stands for the hexadecimal code of the color you want). Using these are fairly simple; just put tags at either end of the text you want to change, or else type it in the third field of the template. When you do this in a link, though, be sure you include it within the code of the link itself, not outside it; otherwise, the link will remain blue. So, for example, the text in your top box should probably go either
:<code><nowiki>[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sailor_Earth&action=edit&section=new '''{{color|C0C0C0|Please leave new messages at the bottom of this page.}}''']</nowiki></code>
:or else
:<code><nowiki>[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sailor_Earth&action=edit&section=new '''Please leave new messages at the bottom of this page.''']</nowiki></code>
:For your notices, just include the entire list in the template or tags (and use FF0000 for the hex code). The archive numbers already have a color template on each of them, so simply replace the 000 in those with C0C0C0 (which is what Wikipedia gave for Silver; if you don't like it, find a different color and use its hex code instead). --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 20:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

== Talk page ==

No biggie... I saved everything. I'll just {{m|Bide}} my time. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 02:38, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:Thanks for being so understanding. Saving the code to wordpad or something really is useful, and you can always copy it into the {{bp|sandbox}} to see how it looks without saving it. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 02:41, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
::You forgot to sign that last talk page comment about the signature... you might want to do that. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 02:20, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

== Beauty ==

[[User_talk:Politoed666#Beauty]]. --[[User:Valepert|Valepert]] 13:48, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

== Aaaaah ==

You didn't categorize a new category! Don't forget to do so! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:09, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
:Oh teh noes! I'm sorry, I'll try to remember next time. I'm going to try to make categories for several move variations, so I'll be sure to include them all in {{cat|moves}}. Man, I'm usually good about categorizing new pages... --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 07:18, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
::Damnit, this is the second time I did that. {{cat|Third versions}} wasn't categorized, either. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 07:19, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

== help ==
i'm not allowed to edit my own page [[User:Hemu|Hemu]]
:Neither is anyone. Check [[Bulbapedia:Messages from the Editor#March 24|this message]] for more info. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 01:17, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

== CONGLATURATIONS!! ==

you got it. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 00:48, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

== Thank you! ==

That sure was a task... ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 00:14, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:Thank ''you''. And {{u|SpontaneousCombusken}}. I'm used to doing these things on my own, but you two completely eclipsed my contributions this time.
:I hope I can help with Trozei!, too. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 00:31, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

== Re: Galleries ==
Yeah, maybe you're right. So, I starting now, I'll change just the articles that have too much images, or even more pics than text, you know. Anyway, thanks for giving me your opinion. '''[[User:Haruka uzumaki|うずまき]][[User talk:Haruka uzumaki|ハルカ]]''' 01:10, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

==Thanks...?0_0==
Ermm... I hope you're okay with this... But I copied some usertags off your page...0_0; [[User:Palkiajosh|Palkiajosh]] 15:19, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
:Dude, that's fine. I got most of mine by copying them off of other people's pages, too. The only ones I would have a problem with are my custom ones, which I think are the Fight Club and Dune ones, as well as "This user rocks," "This user is a dick," and "Mew-who?" And I wouldn't have a problem with anyone stealing those as long as they let me know. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 20:56, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

== Languages ==

Virtually every language shows up in the "Add..." dialog ''except'' Chinese, Japanese, and Korean (the three languages I want to enable). How do I fix this? --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 00:25, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
:...are you clicking on the "East Asian Languages" checkbox? That's the one with Japanese, Chinese, and Korean. The other one has a bunch of languages, but not the ones you need, assuming you're using Windows XP. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 00:28, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
::I found the checkbox, but it's in the faded-out mode where I can't click on it. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 00:39, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

== Kabuto ==

Absorb, Mega Drain, Giga Drain. Also, the angle it's seen most of the time makes it look extremelly similar to a Metroid. And, last time I checked, being yellow, rabbit sized, and with electric-generating abilities, did not stop Pikachu being based on a mouse. Why would Kabuto have to be exactly a Metroid in a Pokemon game to be considered as based on, but not other species? The influence is clear. [[User:Eriorguez|Eriorguez]] 15:46, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
:Like I said, as awesome as it would be, I doubt it's true. Pikachu is pretty clearly a mouse because its [[species]] is Mouse Pokémon; aside from that, it doesn't remind me of a mouse at all. Unfortunately, unless you can see into the <s>insane machinations</s> minds of the creators of Pokémon, there's no way to know for sure what "origins" are true and which ones are just ideas the fans had. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 21:48, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

== a couple of things ==

I don't know why you asked TTE about the Toomanypersonal template, it was my idea and I'm the only one who uses it... and, I have a job that I think you would be good at and I want to know if you would like to do it. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 22:46, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
:I'm really sorry. I thought for a while about which admin would be best for that question, and I eventually settled on him.
:To be honest, though, I wasn't asking about the Toomanypersonal so much as the {{template|Ficwarning}} template I had just made. If someone, by some stroke of extreme idiocy, only had their fic on the site, then if I posted a "delete" tag on it and one of the admins did away with it, it would be gone forever. I was wondering how much time I should give them to save it and repost it on FF.net or the Library before having it deleted. I do quite a bit of writing myself, so I care about these things more than I should.
:As for the job, well, I can try. As you can tell, I don't have nearly the dedication of some contributors here, but if you think that I might be good at it... --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 08:41, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::Well, he created the template for me I guess, so you had it right there. I would say five days is enough for fanfics. If they weren't smart enough to save it somewhere else, they don't really need it on here. Also, admins can restore deleted pages, so even if it is deleted in the first place...the information is still retrievable. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 12:48, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Please dont delete fan fics, I only have 2 subpages, and i rarely edit them. Please take some consideration, everyone is allowed tons and tons of subpages, I have 2, 1 a fanfic, and i swear TTE said they were alright as long as they werent edited too much. PLEASE. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 13:35, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::::May I ask you what you think the forum's sitting there for? Looking pretty? There's even a section for people to post their fanfics! [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 14:20, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::On a forum??? Also Glinn people have pointed this out to you before. Sucking up to the admins wont make them respect you, itll just make others view your opinion as an extension of the admins. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 14:32, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Its just a small fanfic, i hardly edit it, as im writing at the moment. Please just let me have 2 subpages. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 14:32, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:Just because someone is against ''you'' doesn't mean that they suck up to the admins. If the general consensus is "no fanfics" then everyone has to abide. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:39, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::Have they really pointed this out to me before?
::Despite the fact I've never written a fanfic?
::News to me. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 14:57, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:::No people have pointed out that you always side with the admins no matter what its about. I dunno, maybe your genuine and its coincidence that you just agree with them a lot. I really dont know. It does look a bit odd though. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 15:05, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::::...They have? I haven't seen it, so...
::::Who would want to suck up on the internet, anyway? [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 15:09, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::Trolls.Not you[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]]

So if a non-admin wants to uphold the same rules that the admins enforce it's considered sucking up? Right... ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:06, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Cacturne (Pokémon)

2008-08-12T14:42:32Z

$aturn¥oshi:

Though they are referred to as rhombi here, I would opine that Cacturne's shape pattern consists of squares. Also, its name is surely based on 'nocturne' rather than 'nocturnal'? [[User:Punkrockrevel|Punkrockrevel]] 05:46, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:Wouldn't be easier just to say "diamond-pattern"? How many general readers even know what a rhombus is? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:42, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Martonimos/Archive 1

2008-08-12T14:39:15Z

$aturn¥oshi: /* a couple of things */

User talk:$aturn¥oshi

2008-08-12T14:08:01Z

$aturn¥oshi: /* Can you */ Possibly.

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:Thanks! ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:31, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
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== Neat ==
Your sig is cool. Where'd you learn wiki coding? --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 01:36, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah your fast '''[[User:CoolPikachu!|♫Cool]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|Pikachu]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|!♫]]'''

::I used to edit frequently on Wikipedia, until the users became too elitist. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:42, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

:::Ohh I also came from there but was on it seldomly '''[[User:CoolPikachu!|♫Cool]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|Pikachu]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|!♫]]'''

== Newcomer? ==
You're new here, too? (Oh, and I got Darkrai at Toys 'R' Us. He disliked me when I first got him! Thanks for responding back.) {{ani|385}}[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 17:29, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Apparently, it looks as though you leave something whenever I leave something on the Talk pages... A stalker Darkrai hiding in the shadows, following me? Just kidding, I actually appreciate it since I just started out today. ^.^ [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 19:44, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

== Question ==

Are you willing to do more? I can't do them myself because my computer can't read Japanese, so I can't be sure with any characters I use. I want to know how you are doing it, are you just searching attacks that the Pokémon might have? because if you are, that won't work for very long. Many of the cards have weird attacks that aren't present in the games and I was just wondering if that was how you were doing it. If you don't want to do more...I understand. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:12, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:Well then, I have a long list so we might as well get started now. {{TCG ID|5th Movie Half Deck|Oakley's Ariados|1}}. I think it would be better if I just link you the picture instead of posting the picture on your talk page: [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Oakleyariados.jpg] ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:34, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

::I won't be able to do too much right now, but I will get cracking on this as soon as I have more time. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:37, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:::That is perfectly fine. Just post the attacks on my page when you finish them! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:45, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:Okay, the following might be tough with the Poké-Body in it but: [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Samiyachatot1.jpg] I do not expect you to translate it for me right now, I am dealing with the mess known as {{TCG|"PCG-P" Promotional cards}} (which this card is actually in). ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:24, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
::A new Samiya's Chatot!! [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Samiyachatot2.jpg] ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 15:53, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
::I'm not sure about the Continuous Scratch because the damage is only 20, Continuous Scratch is an attack that would have 20× instead of just 20. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:04, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Okay. I'll give it another go. It's amazing that you can get completely different results by being just one character off. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:31, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
:If you can't get it, we can move on because I put the translation notice on the page. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:40, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Can I ask you to do something different for me? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 15:29, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah, go ahead. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:54, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::I need the kanji from the name in the top left corner for each of the following:
<gallery>
Image:Normalmovie.jpg
</gallery>
Could you do that for me please? If you click on the image, it should be bigger on the Archives. (Sorry if it seems like a lot...) ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:21, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:Well I was kinda right, something with translation~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 16:22, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::YES!!! That is exactly what I need (as far as I can tell, remember, I can't read Japanese on my computer) If you can get them all, you just pulled me out the hole I was in!! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:36, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Yay! Knocked out three. Only seven left. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:40, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::Aaron and Tory have their Jap. names already, but they have additions (like last names) added onto them. They are up there because I don't know what belongs and what doesn't. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:10, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Seven down. Three more to do! ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 00:11, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

== Diamond and Pearl Poketch ==

Actually, check the game, it says that Poketch is short for Pokemon Tech. Of this I am certain as I have had this argument with a number of people and they all agree with me now. {{Unsigned|Admiralaew}}
:Quote from the father of the President on the second floor of the Pokétch Company: "Pokémon Watch! That's Pokétch for short." ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 22:56, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

::Actually, I did check the game. It says Pokémon Watch. Those that believe you when you tell them "Pokémon Tech" are {{p2|Mareep|sheep}}. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 23:17, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

:::I'm sorry, I concede. I realized what happened, basically I wasn't paying attention, stupid me, very very sorry. On a side note, I am curious as to how you create your signature. {{Unsigned|Admiralaew}}
::::For starters, sign your comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. For info on creating a custom sig, see the new {{bp|signature policy}}. It also contains rules on what you can and can't do with your sig, so read it carefully. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 23:44, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::That's basically the gist of it. Thank you, Martonimos. If you have a good grasp on wiki coding, you can create a sig that you like. It took a while for me to come up with this one, it's a altered version of my old Wikipedia signature. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:59, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

== Adminship ==

To be honest, I don't really feel like I deserve it. I'm kind of an ass on wikis. (And wasn't TTE kind of throwing power around to clean up the Capulet disaster quicker...?) Not to sound ungrateful. ;[--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 00:32, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

:I wasn't on during that fiasco, but out of all the people that were on you were one of the few that were selected. In my eyes, that counts for something. I don't think of you as being ungrateful, you're just unsure is all. Don't worry, everything will slip into place. Of this I am confident. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 03:15, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

== Cards ==

Finally, you are done, I can put you to work on something else{{tt|*|Don't worry, this next thing will be the last thing I need you to do for me for a while, I have a lot to do right now}}! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:33, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

:Okay. :D ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 03:34, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
::I need to know what the attacks off of the following are. And once again, Thank you so much!! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:39, 18 July 2008 (UTC) 
<Gallery>
Image:Ash'sTreeckocard.jpg
Image:May'sTorchiccard.jpg
Image:Brock'sMudkipcard.jpg
</gallery>
:Thank you...the attack Treecko has is most likely Tail Slap: a move that other Treecko have in the TCG. And there actually is a Water Arrow attack; so, you are correct for those. Thank you. I won't ask you to do anything for me for a while; I have about 6 sets to finish with the information that you've given me already. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:47, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

::You are welcome. Glad I could be of service. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 22:49, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

== ok? ==
ok bro i dun care if im off 1 day or 1 week i dont go on this website everyday... dont take it too hard im not cussing at u or anything im just saying that i have a life ~~Ritchie~~

:I'm just saying that I don't care. Not to sound rude or anything. (Okay, maybe a little rude...) ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:56, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

== Congrats ==

Nice Job on getting ur missions accomplished, but u missed the Trozei! page itself--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 00:55, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:THUN THUN THUN!!!! ~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 00:57, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

::Got 'em. It's because I was looking for links. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 00:59, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:::hmm...~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 01:00, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

== Welcoming ==

Most of those were vandals and we don't welcome vandals. No biggie though, just remember for next time.''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:48, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

:Sorry, sometimes I get a little too carried away with my copy-and-pasting. Like I stated before, I wasn't on when that whole vandal war went down. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:12, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

== A favour to ask of you ==

Still in awe at the amount of work that has gone into the Japanese cards, I now have a bit of time to start mucking in again. You seem to be Orange's choice for help with these, and I'm in the same situation as him computer-wise, so could you help me with a card too?
<gallery>
Image:SkarmoryIntro.jpg
</gallery>
This is the only one I can't find a source for, I was wondering if you could get the translation for the name and text of the second attack. I know the first attack is "Peck" and the second is "Metal"-something. I can't quite make out some characters in the text. Thanks! [[User:Nuva-kal|Nuva-kal]] 20:30, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Can you also do this as well as the kirlia...I need the kanji and translation off of this and the attack if possible. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:17, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
<gallery>
Image:Celebi J promo.jpg
</gallery>
:Thank you! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 01:53, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

::Glad I could help. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:58, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Actually, I think the attack is "Light of Revival". Since it is an irregular attack, could you possibly translate the text? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:55, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

== Golden Oldies ==

Sorry to bother you again, but these card articles I want to create are so old and rare, they don't have entries in the card database, and I don't have the kanji for them to translate. So I was wondering if you could get the kanji for the title and body text for the cards listed?

Secret Super Battle No. 1 [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:SecretSuperBattleNo1.jpg]

Tropical Mega Battle No. 1 [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:TropicalMegaBattleNo1.jpg]

No. 1 Trainer (2000/2001) [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:No1Trainer00.jpg]

Victory Ring [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:VictoryRingTrainer.jpg]

Victory Orb [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:VictoryOrbTrainer.jpg]

Victory Orb (Mew) [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:VictoryMewTrainer.jpg]

I know this is a rather large request, but finding out what these cards do will be a real treat for some collectors out there (me included!) Thanks. '''[[Surf (move)|~~]]''''''[[User:nuva-kal|nuva]]''''''-'''[[User_talk:nuva-kal|'''kal''']] 20:24, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

== Can you ==

translate Romanji into English? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 04:31, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:What do you have? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:08, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Evolution

2008-08-11T15:41:12Z

$aturn¥oshi: /* Phione */

Ummmm.... The bit about Eevees at the end is plain wrong. Things don't evolve due to their environment. It is merely that the creatures that have a favourable variation survive to produce offspring and pass on their genes, and so more things have the variation than don't. This is like junior high-level knowledge. [[User:DanJimi|DanJimi]] 10:25, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

at the list of non-evolving pokemon, you see the last pkmn is aerodactyl but next to it is a picture of an kabutops

== Phione ==

I put Phione on the list of non evolving non legendaries, and it keeps getting removed. WHY???? It's not as though Phione is legendary. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] 02:09, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

:Because in some people's minds, it is legendary. :/ [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 02:16, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

But it's not confirmed to be legendary. And IMO, the fact that one can recruit multiple Phione in MD2 PROVES conclusively that Phione is not a legendary (In the MD games, legendaries are strictly limited to one per game). --
''[[Glitch Pokémon|Glitch]] and [[Pokémon|Official]] Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|should be considered equal]]!-- quoted by {{u|Missingno. Master}}
 15:20, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
:Please see your talk page, Missigno.Master. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 15:37, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

If it isn't a legendary, why is it banned from the battle tower? It's definitely not because of it's battle prowess. No. It's because it's normally unavailable in normal play. You still need access to Manaphy to get them.

It's no legendary, but it's still an event Pokémon in a sense. - PDL
:The only Pokémon banned from the Battle Tower are legendary. Phione is legendary, albeit the crappiest of them. Plus, Missingno Master, you might wanna do something OTHER than just adding Phione in there, such as, oh, changing the count to 43 and making it so the table isn't f'd up.
:Plus, here's the thing: how much of a chance does Phione have of getting evolutionary relatives? ZERO! It has Manaphy. The other 42 have at least a chance of that.
:Jeez, I understand being the devil's advocate, but Phione just isn't worth it. It sucks in battle, sure, but so do many other legendaries. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 08:11, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
::Devil's advocate? I wasn't suggesting that Phione should be listed >_>. However, I suppose I wasn't making myself clear enough. - PDL
:::No, the Pokémon banned from the Battle Tower are in the Uber tier. Note that Cresselia isn't banned, it's in the OU tier as well. Is it legendary? Hell yeah. (Yet it can compete in Uber if it really wants to..) [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 23:06, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
::::See, that's where fan definitions suck. Everything banned from the BT is legendary, the only exceptions to this are the normal legendary trios of each region (meaning, of course, that GKR and DPG aren't ''normal'' trios. They're mascot trios, though Giratina's not a mascot... but hey, it's a better name than other stuff), the Lati duo, Cressy, and Heatran. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 23:12, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Ahem. Phione is now officially not a legendary. [http://www.pokemon.com/#mailbag_02042008 1] I take it this means I was justified in putting it back in the non-evolving non-legendary box thingy? --
''[[Glitch Pokémon]]. [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno]][[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|.]] [[User:Missingno. Master|Master]]
 11:45, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:Even if we assume that Phione is not legendary, which is unsubtantiated unless claimed or alluded to by the designers (that is, not any low-rank employee of an ''affiliated'' company), it still has no place on the list. The reason for this is that the list shows all Pokémon with ''some'' chance to evolve in later installments of the game. It has been observed, and in fact referenced in the Diamond and Pearl games, that legendaries need not evolve because they have reached their maximum potential as-is; therefore, there is no chance for any of the legendaries to evolve.

:It so happens that regardless of whether Phione is classified as legendary or not, there is no reason to believe that it will ever evolve. If it were to evolve, it would evolve into Manaphy, as any other scenario would be cumbersome (a legendary spawning a species not from its own family). However, the reason behind the fact that Phione does not evolve into Manaphy, which is that Manaphy is unique, will continue to hold beyond the current generation. -[[User:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 14:07, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

:Missingno. Master, you do realize that link confirms that Phione ''is'' a Legendary, right? [[User:Gligar|Gligar]] 15:27, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

::This conversation is from six months ago. Pokémon.com did list Phione as a non-legendary for a time, then changed it to a legendary status. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:41, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

==Anime Evolution==
In regards to the relation between the evolution in the anime than in the games. Wouldn't The anime be more reasonably sound than the games. Because I doubt that if Pokemon were real that most of these evolutions would occur exactly as in the games. The way I see it, the only reason why a certain Pokemon evolves the way it does in the game (with the exception of evolutionary stones and such) is to make it difficult for the player and it would be easier for a Pokemon Game developer if they limited it to one specific set of circumstances.

Granted there are a few exceptions: Such as evolutionary stones, and specific locations for a Pokemon to evolve, and perhaps it knowing a certain move. Though with Evolutionary stones, in an episode it said that the wind was able to carry evolutionary stones, so couldn't certain Pokemon evolve that way when it appears it just evolves naturally or mysteriously?

As for leveling up and trading, those just seem to make it more difficult for a trainer of the games to obtain Pokemon, that could easily be gotten by easier methods. --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 13:51, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Meowth (Pokémon)

2008-08-11T15:13:48Z

$aturn¥oshi: /* Nyrth */

{{User:Shiningpikablu252/PA}}
Marking {{M|Bite}} as a STAB move in the RBY column and not in the others isn't a mistake. In RBY, Bite is a {{T|Normal}}-type move, while in the later versions it is a {{T|Dark}}-type move. [[User:User142|User142]] | [[User talk:User142|Talk]] 07:03, 12 January 2006 (CST)

== Melee ==

Can somebody tell me why Meowth is included in the Pokeball Pokemon bit? [[User:Pluvia|Pluvia]] 23:23, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
:The Poké Ball section is only two lines. Meowth is in the trophy section. I agree that the boundry isn't clear. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 11:59, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

== Tyson's Meowth ==

Could anyone get a sprite for Tyson's Meowth in the boots to add to Tyson's profile? [[Image:Ani448MS.gif]][[User:Jmath|'''Jmath''']][[Image:Ani447MS.gif]][[User talk:Jmath|'''Talk''']][[Image:Ani448MS.gif]]14:00, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
:I found it on this link here.[http://www.pokesho.com/anime_dot.html]--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 15:22, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks a lot!!! [[Image:Ani448MS.gif]][[User:Jmath|'''Jmath''']][[Image:Ani447MS.gif]][[User talk:Jmath|'''Talk''']][[Image:Ani448MS.gif]] 15:26, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::You're welcome. I'm glad to be of {{m|assist}}ance!--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 15:30, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Would you like me to upload it? Or can you? --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 15:46, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::::Thanks, I appreciate it if you could do that. But could you enlarge it a bit? [[Image:Ani448MS.gif]][[User:Jmath|'''Jmath''']][[Image:Ani447MS.gif]][[User talk:Jmath|'''Talk''']][[Image:Ani448MS.gif]] 15:52, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:Well, I got to leave for like 2 hours. But when I get back, I promise I'll do it first thing! --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 16:05, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I'm back now. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 20:11, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

:Finished: [[Image:MeowthInBoots1.JPG]] --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 20:16, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::Uh.. lemme whip up a sprite of Meowth in Boots. JPGs as sprites are a huge no-no. Hell, any JPG in Paint sucks. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 20:25, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::Done and done. Kinda crappy-ish, but it'll do. Has transparency too. [[Image:Meowth in bootssprite.png]] [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:08, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:WTF! All you did was paint a hat onto a picture of Meowth!!!!!! Mine is a real sprite! --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 21:16, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::What? No. I put the scarf on, I sprited the hat on.. and stfu, I know I forgot the boots. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:19, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Yea seriously! I doesn't even have boots! I think we should use the real one that I uploaded.....--'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 21:23, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:SO BESIDES THE FSKING BOOTS WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH IT. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:24, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::Well I'm just saying that a fan-made sprite isn't that good......Well I asked Pie what she thinks.....--'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 21:29, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Wait, but-- then how did you get that?! o____O [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:30, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::::From [http://www.pokesho.com/anime_dot.html] --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 21:32, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::Pokésho isn't official. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:35, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:Well it looks good......at least it has boots.....no offense, though.....but it is called ''[[Tyson's Mewoth|Meowth in Boots]]''.....--'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 21:37, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::Fine, fine. I'll edit on the boots. (It's just that sprites saved as JPGs are like, an absolute no-no.) [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:39, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::No, seriously. Can we just use my pic? --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 21:40, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::::JPGs from Paint = the devil. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:46, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::::Besides, I wanna practice my fsking spriting skills. I fail at spriting. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:46, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:Okay, this is my last post of this conversation. Your pic is a fake, fan-made pic. The one I got is from a website. Let's let Jmath decide. After all, he was the one who started this. ;-) --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 21:54, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::FOR THE LAST F*CKING TIME POKÉSHO IS NOT OFFICIAL. >:C IT'S FANMADE. IT'S NOT OFFICIAL. ON THE FRONT PAGE IT SAYS -- This page is a fanpage of Poke'mon. ARRGHHHHHH. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:57, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Calm is key.......the website's looks a lot better......I'm not argueing anymore. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 21:59, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::::Here's my input on the issue: Both are fan made and if we are going to use one then TinaTheKirlia's sprite edit fits the look of the other sprites on Tyson's page much better. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 22:02, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::I know I shouldn't be argueing with an admin and you have authority to ban me (Please DON'T), but you can totally tell that Tina's is painted, unlike the one I found. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 22:05, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::I'm not going to ban you just for disagreeing with me. I know Tina's is a sprite edit but that's why I said it fits in better. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 22:52, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:...*headdesk* agh. you seriously got me boiled over there. my pot top blew off and shattered. (in other words, you got me damn pissed. e_e) [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 22:07, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::No, I'm not saying your's is bad. I'm just saying that it looks like it was painted. I never said that it wasn't awesome. It's awesome for a painted pic. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 22:12, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Damn me and my celshading. >____< [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 22:13, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
My decision is to not use either. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 22:40, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:I don't see the reason why we're even arguing this point. Are we screaming that we need to give Ashachu a Gen IV sprite and plop the doofus's {{AP|hat}} on it? Charla a bow? If anything it'd be the minisprites to have for the infoboxes. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 23:52, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

If the sprite that Theryguy uploaded could be enlarged, I think we could use it in the page. I just feel we need to add the sprite because Tyson's Meowth is different from the rest. The boots are like its trademark. [[Image:Ani448MS.gif]][[User:Jmath|'''Jmath''']][[Image:Ani447MS.gif]][[User talk:Jmath|'''Talk''']][[Image:Ani448MS.gif]] 19:06, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
:How's this pic? [[Image:Tyson's Meowth.png]] [[Image:Ani448MS.gif]][[User:Jmath|'''Jmath''']][[Image:Ani447MS.gif]][[User talk:Jmath|'''Talk''']][[Image:Ani448MS.gif]] 18:42, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
::Obviously, you've haven't been here. We decided against having it. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 22:17, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Having what? [[Image:Ani448MS.gif]][[User:Jmath|'''Jmath''']][[Image:Ani447MS.gif]][[User talk:Jmath|'''Talk''']][[Image:Ani448MS.gif]] 18:46, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
::::Against having a sprite of Meowth in Boots. WE're just using a regular meowth sprite. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 20:46, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

== Trivia is a bit tenuous ==

The trivia item about the reversed numbers is a tad tenuous, and after much study I believe its a coincidence.
:Trivia is just funny facts. It's nothing that important to worry over. So what if it's a coincidence. It's a fact that Meowth and Pikachu's numbers are reversed. --[[Image:Ani048MS.gif]]'''[[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]]'''[[Image:Ani183MS.gif]]'''[[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]]'''[[Image:Ani123MS.gif]] 19:11, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

On a somewhat related topic. None of Meowth's sprites really show it as standing on all fours (like the trivia suggests). In fact, it could just be sitting down in the Red/Blue sprites. All other sprites, including the Japanese Red/Green show it on its hind legs. Perhaps this trivia bit should be removed... ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:52, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

== Nyarth vs Nyasuu ==

ok, I might be stupid somehow, but why is Meowth said to be called "Nyarth"? to me, clearly it's name is Nyasuu, that's the name we "grew up with", that's what romaji fying ニャース gets you, and heck, that's also what the bulbapedia says the katakana is too, so what gives?
{{SUBST::User:ZaphodBeeblebrox/sig}} 21:02, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
:All the Japanese Pokémon names have official Romanizations. Sometimes it's exactly the same as the katakana, sometimes not. Nyāsu=Nyarth and Naetoru=Naetle, but Fushigidane=Fushigidane and Hitokage=Hitokage...et cetera.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 22:17, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

== Nyrth ==

Isn't there a character on Thundercats called Nyrth? (I don't watch that show) [[User:ShinyPikachu]]

:That would be {{wp|ThunderCats#The Snarfs|Snarf}}. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:11, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Meowth (Pokémon)

2008-08-11T15:11:55Z

$aturn¥oshi: /* Nyrth */

{{User:Shiningpikablu252/PA}}
Marking {{M|Bite}} as a STAB move in the RBY column and not in the others isn't a mistake. In RBY, Bite is a {{T|Normal}}-type move, while in the later versions it is a {{T|Dark}}-type move. [[User:User142|User142]] | [[User talk:User142|Talk]] 07:03, 12 January 2006 (CST)

== Melee ==

Can somebody tell me why Meowth is included in the Pokeball Pokemon bit? [[User:Pluvia|Pluvia]] 23:23, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
:The Poké Ball section is only two lines. Meowth is in the trophy section. I agree that the boundry isn't clear. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 11:59, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

== Tyson's Meowth ==

Could anyone get a sprite for Tyson's Meowth in the boots to add to Tyson's profile? [[Image:Ani448MS.gif]][[User:Jmath|'''Jmath''']][[Image:Ani447MS.gif]][[User talk:Jmath|'''Talk''']][[Image:Ani448MS.gif]]14:00, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
:I found it on this link here.[http://www.pokesho.com/anime_dot.html]--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 15:22, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks a lot!!! [[Image:Ani448MS.gif]][[User:Jmath|'''Jmath''']][[Image:Ani447MS.gif]][[User talk:Jmath|'''Talk''']][[Image:Ani448MS.gif]] 15:26, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::You're welcome. I'm glad to be of {{m|assist}}ance!--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 15:30, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Would you like me to upload it? Or can you? --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 15:46, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::::Thanks, I appreciate it if you could do that. But could you enlarge it a bit? [[Image:Ani448MS.gif]][[User:Jmath|'''Jmath''']][[Image:Ani447MS.gif]][[User talk:Jmath|'''Talk''']][[Image:Ani448MS.gif]] 15:52, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:Well, I got to leave for like 2 hours. But when I get back, I promise I'll do it first thing! --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 16:05, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I'm back now. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 20:11, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

:Finished: [[Image:MeowthInBoots1.JPG]] --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 20:16, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::Uh.. lemme whip up a sprite of Meowth in Boots. JPGs as sprites are a huge no-no. Hell, any JPG in Paint sucks. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 20:25, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::Done and done. Kinda crappy-ish, but it'll do. Has transparency too. [[Image:Meowth in bootssprite.png]] [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:08, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:WTF! All you did was paint a hat onto a picture of Meowth!!!!!! Mine is a real sprite! --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 21:16, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::What? No. I put the scarf on, I sprited the hat on.. and stfu, I know I forgot the boots. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:19, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Yea seriously! I doesn't even have boots! I think we should use the real one that I uploaded.....--'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 21:23, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:SO BESIDES THE FSKING BOOTS WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH IT. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:24, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::Well I'm just saying that a fan-made sprite isn't that good......Well I asked Pie what she thinks.....--'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 21:29, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Wait, but-- then how did you get that?! o____O [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:30, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::::From [http://www.pokesho.com/anime_dot.html] --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 21:32, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::Pokésho isn't official. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:35, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:Well it looks good......at least it has boots.....no offense, though.....but it is called ''[[Tyson's Mewoth|Meowth in Boots]]''.....--'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 21:37, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::Fine, fine. I'll edit on the boots. (It's just that sprites saved as JPGs are like, an absolute no-no.) [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:39, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::No, seriously. Can we just use my pic? --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 21:40, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::::JPGs from Paint = the devil. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:46, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::::Besides, I wanna practice my fsking spriting skills. I fail at spriting. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:46, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:Okay, this is my last post of this conversation. Your pic is a fake, fan-made pic. The one I got is from a website. Let's let Jmath decide. After all, he was the one who started this. ;-) --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 21:54, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::FOR THE LAST F*CKING TIME POKÉSHO IS NOT OFFICIAL. >:C IT'S FANMADE. IT'S NOT OFFICIAL. ON THE FRONT PAGE IT SAYS -- This page is a fanpage of Poke'mon. ARRGHHHHHH. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:57, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Calm is key.......the website's looks a lot better......I'm not argueing anymore. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 21:59, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::::Here's my input on the issue: Both are fan made and if we are going to use one then TinaTheKirlia's sprite edit fits the look of the other sprites on Tyson's page much better. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 22:02, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::I know I shouldn't be argueing with an admin and you have authority to ban me (Please DON'T), but you can totally tell that Tina's is painted, unlike the one I found. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 22:05, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::I'm not going to ban you just for disagreeing with me. I know Tina's is a sprite edit but that's why I said it fits in better. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 22:52, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:...*headdesk* agh. you seriously got me boiled over there. my pot top blew off and shattered. (in other words, you got me damn pissed. e_e) [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 22:07, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::No, I'm not saying your's is bad. I'm just saying that it looks like it was painted. I never said that it wasn't awesome. It's awesome for a painted pic. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 22:12, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Damn me and my celshading. >____< [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 22:13, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
My decision is to not use either. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 22:40, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:I don't see the reason why we're even arguing this point. Are we screaming that we need to give Ashachu a Gen IV sprite and plop the doofus's {{AP|hat}} on it? Charla a bow? If anything it'd be the minisprites to have for the infoboxes. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 23:52, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

If the sprite that Theryguy uploaded could be enlarged, I think we could use it in the page. I just feel we need to add the sprite because Tyson's Meowth is different from the rest. The boots are like its trademark. [[Image:Ani448MS.gif]][[User:Jmath|'''Jmath''']][[Image:Ani447MS.gif]][[User talk:Jmath|'''Talk''']][[Image:Ani448MS.gif]] 19:06, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
:How's this pic? [[Image:Tyson's Meowth.png]] [[Image:Ani448MS.gif]][[User:Jmath|'''Jmath''']][[Image:Ani447MS.gif]][[User talk:Jmath|'''Talk''']][[Image:Ani448MS.gif]] 18:42, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
::Obviously, you've haven't been here. We decided against having it. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 22:17, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Having what? [[Image:Ani448MS.gif]][[User:Jmath|'''Jmath''']][[Image:Ani447MS.gif]][[User talk:Jmath|'''Talk''']][[Image:Ani448MS.gif]] 18:46, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
::::Against having a sprite of Meowth in Boots. WE're just using a regular meowth sprite. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 20:46, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

== Trivia is a bit tenuous ==

The trivia item about the reversed numbers is a tad tenuous, and after much study I believe its a coincidence.
:Trivia is just funny facts. It's nothing that important to worry over. So what if it's a coincidence. It's a fact that Meowth and Pikachu's numbers are reversed. --[[Image:Ani048MS.gif]]'''[[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]]'''[[Image:Ani183MS.gif]]'''[[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]]'''[[Image:Ani123MS.gif]] 19:11, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

On a somewhat related topic. None of Meowth's sprites really show it as standing on all fours (like the trivia suggests). In fact, it could just be sitting down in the Red/Blue sprites. All other sprites, including the Japanese Red/Green show it on its hind legs. Perhaps this trivia bit should be removed... ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:52, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

== Nyarth vs Nyasuu ==

ok, I might be stupid somehow, but why is Meowth said to be called "Nyarth"? to me, clearly it's name is Nyasuu, that's the name we "grew up with", that's what romaji fying ニャース gets you, and heck, that's also what the bulbapedia says the katakana is too, so what gives?
{{SUBST::User:ZaphodBeeblebrox/sig}} 21:02, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
:All the Japanese Pokémon names have official Romanizations. Sometimes it's exactly the same as the katakana, sometimes not. Nyāsu=Nyarth and Naetoru=Naetle, but Fushigidane=Fushigidane and Hitokage=Hitokage...et cetera.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 22:17, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

== Nyrth ==

Isn't there a character on Thundercats called Nyrth? (I don't watch that show) [[User:ShinyPikachu]]

:That would be {{wp|Snarf}}. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:11, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Nuva-kal

2008-08-11T14:20:44Z

$aturn¥oshi: /* Re: Golden Oldies */ new section

== Pokémon TCG Images ==

Hi, I noticed you've done a lot of work on the TCG pages. I don't know how much they'd help, but I've got a lot of TCG images on my system (just over 40). I don't know if they'll help you, but I can send them to you if you want. If you want to know what they are, I can either send a screenshot of them to you or just list them. I can send the images either via email, or Windows Live Messenger (MSN). Anyway, let me know if your interested. Regards, [[User:Double Dash|Double Dash]] 15:34, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

''Edit:'' Just a quick list: 8 images (one Japanese) from Diamond & Pearl; 11 images (Japanese) from Mysterious Treasures; 8 images (Japanese) from Shining Darkness; 8 images from EX sets; 2 display box images; the Worlds 2006 card back; 4 Worlds 2005 deck box images and the Worlds 2005 logo; 4 Worlds 2006 deck box images; 4 Worlds 2006 card images, one to go with each deck. That's actually 50 altogether, not just over 40, and I've probably got some more elsewhere. They're from various places, and all have been released by press releases either by Pokémon USA or Pokémon-Card.com in Japan. ''Edit at 16:02, 18 June 2007 (UTC)''

:Concerning images for the cards themselves, its [[User:Happy Mask Man|Happy Mask Man]] you need to talk to - I tend to handle TCG lists and related topics (some of which need some attention), after several card articles I did myself have been edited in favour of his system. I would do articles for the later sets, such as Diamond & Pearl to ease his workload, but he'd need a lot of work to add to it anyway, what with the Japanese translations and the GameBoy version of the TCG, etc. - I can't do any of that. I'd prefer not to tread on his feet. Although we will need images eventually of the English cards, its not my place to determine when. Cheers for the heads-up though. nuva-kal, 18 June 2007 21:15 (BST)

:''Edit:'' Come to think of it - there are a couple of things that could make the lists better. The first is the set logo on the cards, I'm having difficulty finding high resolution images of the ones that we don't have yet. The second would be booster designs, which could be displayed alongside the card lists (language specific) and take up some of that white space. Although more recent booster images are easy to find, older ones with a decent enough resolution are difficult to track.

::So set symbols and set logos for as many sets as possible, plus as many booster pack designs as possible? Do you want any theme deck boxes if I can find those as well? [[User:Double Dash|Double Dash]] 20:50, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

:::That would be a bonus! nuva-kal, 18 June 2007 22:04 (BST)

::::Is there any way to send you what I have? Got plenty of stuff for you. [[User:Double Dash|Double Dash]] 15:04, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

:::::My Hotmail account is acting up, so you can send the stuff to my alternate address - aggkbrown@talktalk.net nuva-kal, 26 June 2007 16:33 (BST)

== Re: Credit ==

No, it's fine, thanks. :-) [[User:Double Dash|Double Dash]] 19:26, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Poké Ball is spelt as two words with both words capitalised. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 01:44, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

You should not move content from a article to a category description. Instead, link to the category from the article. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 15:03, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

:I only moved the Nintendo Promo cards to separarte articles in their own category because one single article is too large. Upon editing the single article, there was a notice saying it may be too large for other users to view. Besides, there are more miscellaneous promos coming out later this year, and there is a new promo set (DP##), so I thought separating them would give less hassle in the long term. That's what I did with the Japanese Promo cards too. nuva-kal, 1 July 2007 21:02 (BST)

::Not view, ''edit''. The point is, with categories you don't have to maintain the list in the article, just link to the category. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 07:00, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

== {{TCG|Shining Darkness}} ==

There was no reason to blank that page. Yes, it's considered a Japan-only expansion, but so is {{TCG|VS}}, {{TCG|Web}}, {{TCG|Moon Hunting}}, {{TCG|Night Dashing}}, and several Japan-only promo card categories. It would be inappropriate to blank any of those, why would it be appropriate to blank Shining Darkness?

Don't pull a stunt like that again, or there will be consequences. Bulbapedia does not take kindly to people who blank notable pages for no reason. ****, Bulbapedia frowns on blanking pages period! --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 18:06, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

:Shining Darkness is ''not'' Japanese-exclusive, I don't know why people can't get their heads round this - Secret Wonders is the English version of it, simply with Dialga, Palkia and Darkrai omitted and with a few cards from MH/ND added. Can the removal of six cards and an addition of 10 really class Shining Darkness a stand-alone set?
:Were the Japanese and English versions of {{TCG|Team Rocket}} classed as two sets because the English version had Dark Raichu - no; were Japanese and English versions of {{TCG|EX Sandstorm}} considered separate because the English version had (at the time) exclusive cards in it - no.
:I have not completely omitted the content of Shining Darkness, if you will take note, I have simply moved its content to Secret Wonders, as 95% of the card list is exactly the same as its Japanese counterpart. With all of the relevant information included in Secret Wonders, I saw no need to keep the Shining Darkness article, and therefore removed the information - not being a moderator, I can't actually delete the page.
:I have done this in the past with the e-card sets, and more recently {{TCG|EX Power Keepers}}, so why I have attracted such a negative response for a perfectly reasonable action is beyond me. If you would prefer me to alert you or a moderator when I am about to do something of this nature, I will do so. I do not go and delete pages off the lam - I take my position as a member of the Pokémon and Bulbapedia community seriously and whenever I do edit material, it is done with consideration for others and always with a just explanation. [[User:nuva-kal|nuva-kal]] 09:11, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

::Yeah, uh, I'd actually back that up. (Sorry for butting in, but I agree here.) Bar, what, ten cards, Shining Darkness ''is'' Secret Wonders. Similarly, DP4 in America ''will be'' Moon Hunting/Night Dashing. There's going to be very little point in having four pages for two sets, surely. Now, I could understand if both DP3 and DP4 in America were 50/50 of Shining Darkness and MH/ND, but they're not. You can't use VS and Web to back up your argument, either, because their cards have never been released in English-language sets. [[User:Double Dash|Double Dash]] 15:07, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

== Re: Shining Darkness ==

No probs, happy to be able to help out. I'm gonna redirect the Shining Darkness page to Secret Wonders, so there are no more arguments. [[User:Double Dash|Double Dash]] 21:01, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

== Card Article Image Field ==

<nowiki>"image= |"</nowiki> displays the image "Please upload an image of this card" when the field in question is blank. There is no need to replace the field with the text when it's easier to have the blank field. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:36, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
:Thanks. [[User:nuva-kal|nuva-kal]] 16:39, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

== TCG ID ==

PLEASE USE THE <nowiki>{{TCG ID|SET NAME|CARD NAME|CARD NUMBER}}</nowiki> ON ANY CARD LISTS. [[User:Jason|
'''Jason''']] [[User_talk:Jason|'''::''']][[Image:Ani151MS.gif]]
:I know, I'm just not that familiar with using these new templates. I'll learn(!) BTW, you say you have stuff for the GB cards? If you could add images and Japanese characters/translations to complete them that would be great. [[User:nuva-kal|nuva-kal]] 13:21, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
yes i do. it is on my pc... along with alot of stuff....however, would it be possible to manage gb1 and gb2 card images near their card number ? :) [[User:Jason|
'''Jason''']] [[User_talk:Jason|'''::''']][[Image:Ani151MS.gif]]
:I don't know what you mean, which number are you talking about - the ones in the checklist? [[User:nuva-kal|nuva-kal]] 13:34, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

== Double Redirects ==

When moving a page, make sure you fix any double redirects you create. When you moved [[Moon Hunting/Night Dashing (TCG)]] to [[Great Encounters (TCG)]], you left behind two double redirects in [[Moon Hunting (TCG)]] and [[Night Dashing (TCG)]] and did not bother to fix them. I've gone ahead and fixed them for you, but make sure you fix any double redirects you create when moving pages in the future. You can check for double redirects by looking under "What Links Here" on a page. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 22:19, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

== Flaaffy ==

You sure? The Secret Wonders Blister Pack with the Flaaffy doesn't get released till December...[[User:Arri|Arri]] 17:56, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
:You're right, its just that my local Forbidden Planet has the Secret Wonders blister pack with the alt. holos, and when I saw the bit about the Flaaffy, I automatically assumed that was the one you were on about - I completely forgot about the Japanese promo! [[User:nuva-kal|nuva-kal]] 18:14, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

== {{TCG ID|Wizards Promo|Suicune|53}} ==

For the record, this Wizards promo Suicune and its Nintendo promo reprint are itself reprints of an Aquapolis card, {{TCG ID|Aquapolis|Suicune|H25}} H25. You might want to create the article at the Aquapolis location and create the necessary redirects. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 17:37, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
:No problem :) [[User:nuva-kal|nuva-kal]] 17:40, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

== Bionicle ==

Bionicle RULZ!!!!!!!!! Have you ever been to the [http://biosector01.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page BSO1 Wiki]?[[Image:Ani260MS.gif]][[User:Ace|Ace]][[Image:Ani384MS.gif]] 19:25, 2 February 2008 (UTC) P.S. My username there is the same as it is here.
:Yes, I've been to the Wiki, although I never really edit there, since a lot more members are actively updating minor things that they've got from Greg or adding things from the books, which I don't get until at least 2-3 months after the Americans do. I never really get the chance to add anything new to the BS01 Wiki, unlike here where there is still a lot to do, especially regarding the TCG, which is what I'm primarily involved in.
:The Wiki may prove useful for minor titbits when I get around starting my flash Bionicle website for my final university project. Nice to hear from a fellow Bionicle fan! [[User:nuva-kal|nuva-kal]] 13:59, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

== Re: DP4 ==

Hit the nail on the head. :-) I've almost finished the Moonlit Pursuit/Dawn Dash page, then I'll take all necessary information outta the Great Encounters page. After than, the next three pages can just be created as per. [[User:Double Dash|Double Dash]] 21:22, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

== Ralts Half Deck ==

You will find nothing while searching for Japanese Nintendo websites, due this seems to be an exclusive Spanish release. I can't assure whatever it is a promotional release or a Spanish exclusive. You can find more about it on the [http://www.devir.es/producto/pokemon/ruby_sapphire/index.htm Oficial Ex Ruby and Sapphire Spanish distributor website].

:Hmmm. Do you know if the other Spanish Half Decks have the same content as the Japanese ones? If so, then its just a case of indicating that the Ralts one is Spanish exclusive, if the others are different, it might be better to make a separate article, or put another list on the same page. All English content is derived from stuff from Japan, with slight modifications (or major with the new sets). Then other European countries usually uniformally just get the English content and translate it without changes (albeit it takes a long time and several sets don't get released - French and German for example). This is the first time I've seen this done, which is why I was sceptical about it. You might want to talk to some other TCG project members to see what they think. [[User:nuva-kal|nuva-kal]] 22:46, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

::On the [[Treecko Half Deck (TCG)|Treecko]], [[Mudkip Half Deck (TCG)|Mudkip]] and [[Torchic Half Deck (TCG)|Torchic]] half decks you will find the Spanish content of them.
::I really do have some time ago a long discussion with some members of the TCG project, because they were as sceptic as you, but what they did was to undo my contributions just because they don't belive it wasn't a fake. Until I contact a TCG project administrador. --[[User:Profesor Bain|Profesor Bain]] 21:24, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

:::Well, I'm always willing to give people benefit of the doubt. I wish I looked at those articles earlier, then we probably wouldn't be having this discussion! I've just added a little notification on the [[Template:Japanese Half Decks|Half Deck]] template for the Ralts one just to ease up confusion with those who are not familiar with it (like me) and saving people from contacting you about it (again, like me!). [[User:nuva-kal|nuva-kal]] 11:20, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

:::: Don't worry. That's what makes Bulbapedia a great encyclopedia. I will continue investigating about this Ralts Half Deck in order to clarify all this topic.--[[User:Profesor Bain|Profesor Bain]] 12:35, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

== [[Template:TCG Expansions]] ==

Hi there, would you happen to know who I need to talk to about changing this template to include Moonlit Pursuit/Dawn Dash, and also other changes? [[User:Double Dash|Double Dash]] 15:31, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
:[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]] maybe, or [[User:Zhen Lin|Zhen Lin]]. Is this just for running the idea past them, or how to actually do it? [[User:nuva-kal|nuva-kal]] 19:28, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
::Well, I wanna discuss the issues caused by both Japanese and English DP4, how to rectify them, and also submit changes for them to check and either accept or deny. [[User:Double Dash|Double Dash]] 21:49, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
:::OK. Other members involved with the TCG might want their input too, but TTE and Zhen are probably the ones to run it by first. [[User:nuva-kal|nuva-kal]] 22:06, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

== TCG Promo ==

hello there. i am Magnedeth. after reading your userpage, it seems we have a bit in common (like Bionicle), but i digress to the real reason of this post. you seem to be engrossed in the TCG. now, i was a huge collector back in the day, but less so these days. however, through it all, i have always been collecting one thing. Magnemite. yes, im on a mission to collect every single Magnemite card in exsistence, both reg and reverse holo. that being said, i didnt come here to ask if you have a card or anything, but i would like to know if you know if/when the [[Magnezone (TCG)|Magnezone promo]] will make it stateside? the obvious thing would be the american release of the movie, but, the american release will almost cirtainly not be in theatres. i have the D/P Magnezone card (still looking for reverse holo, but ill find it) and im itching for another one. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 00:27, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
:This is the problem with Japanese promo cards - there are so many of them and Nintendo do not have the resources to translate every single card (there are some they don't translate for obvious reasons, like the [[Imakuni?]] cards, etc.). Considering the cards that Nintendo put into POP sets and the rate at which they release new promo cards (how long its taken to get certain Lv. X Pokémon is a good example), it looks unlikely that we will see an English version any time soon. There are a few Battle Road promos that have made their way into the Western market, but they only tend to be decent cards playwise. Looking at Magnezone, it does look good, so there may be a chance that it may work its way into a POP set, or part of a value pack - but not for a while. Never say never! [[User:Nuva-kal|Nuva-kal]] 12:28, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
::arg! ill find a way, i always find a way...i have the vending Magnemite and Magneton which were not released stateside, and i also have an Imakuni? pass card and trainer card, and i used to have Imakuni?'s Doduo, but somone stole it. (can you beleive that?!?) oh well. it looks like a Magnezone Lv. X is comming down the pipeline soon, guess ill have to wait untill it's released in america. thats rather expected though, its just another set. you dont happen to know when its getting released, do you? '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:07, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Well, Magnezone Lv. X is in {{TCG|Temple of Anger/Cry from the Mysterious}}, the majority of which will likely be pushed back to our DP6 set, released around August (the third set of the year normally clashes with Worlds). Majestic Dawn has Garchomp Lv. X and Porygon-Z Lv. X confirmed, but will have to include Leafeon Lv. X and Glaceon Lv. X too, so I don't think Nintnedo will push the boat out to put another Lv. X in there, meaning its unfortunately another long wait. Good luck with your collection! [[User:Nuva-kal|Nuva-kal]] 19:18, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
::::NOOOOOO!!!!! my deck needs another Magnezone!!! damn......well, thanks for all the info anyway.. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:21, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

did you do all (most) of the vending machine cards? i have more than just the Mags. im still not sure how i got them...must have gotten a couple of packs from somone/somwhere...in anycase, thanks to you, i know what they say now! -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 00:03, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
:Yes, I've got an old UK edition of Pojo's Pokémon from August 2000 that's got scans and translations of most of the cards (though some are a little off). I'll try and get Series 3 done sometime soon. [[User:Nuva-kal|Nuva-kal]] 08:55, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
::awesome. ill have to go and find out which ones i got so i can translate them. i have a Pass Card too, though, thats completely obsolete, isnt it.. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:16, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
:::The Pass Card was one of the "bonus" cards with Series 3. In Japan when Series 3 was released, there was a campaign where you sent in either Haunter, Kadabra, Omanyte, Graveler or Machoke with the Pass Card to the card company and they would send you the evolved version back. A nice little thing, a shame it didn't make it across the pond.
:::A lot of the bonus cards tend to be spoof ones or ones that allow you to bend the rules of the game. Because of this, I don't think that people took them seriously at first and they were ignored, but there is a growing collectors market for them - especially now since Wizards didn't translate the majority of them, so it is a card worth holding onto. [[User:Nuva-kal|Nuva-kal]] 17:42, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
::::absolutly. i take pride in my rare useless cards. i also have the Imakuni "trainer card". is there a translation for that somwhere? (and while were at it, Imakuni's Doduo too. i will get it back someday...) -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 00:55, 10 April 2008
:::::I've gone ahead and done some of the bonus cards from {{TCG|Vending Machine Cards|vending}} (some of them are really wierd and difficult to read) and {{TCG ID|Gym|Imakuni?'s Doduo|2}}. Enjoy! [[User:Nuva-kal|Nuva-kal]] 11:00, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::hell yes. thank you. now, to begin the tedious and expensive task of collecting them all! ok, maybe not. but, i still like them. do you have any Imakuni? or vending cards? -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:26, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I don't have any Imakuni? cards, no. I did have a Vending Ponyta waaaay back, but I must have traded it for something. This was back when everyone in school had Pokémon cards, and this girl had a Ponyta who didn't know what set it was from. Nobody knew, so she just gave it to me because I was the only one who recognised it was in Japanese. Then, I must have traded it for something soon after 'cause I don't have it anymore. I didn't have as much respect for the Japanese cards as I do now, so in hindsight I should have held onto it, but it doesn't really bother me that much. Technically with the Wizards promos, I do have some Vending cards, so I guess that will do for now! [[User:Nuva-kal|Nuva-kal]] 09:22, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::::on a Ponyta related note, i had 26 Ponyta's. about 21 or so from the base set. once i realised this, i started giving them away! im just wondering though, why do you have so much repect for the Jap cards? back when the cards were big, i didnt care if they were english of jap, i wanted them, but then i stopped collecting. only very recently did i actually go out and get a pack (for old time sake) and now i really dont care for the Jap cards. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:05, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::I guess I've come to respect them because of the sheer volume of them. Because I've done the promo lists and started the translations for some the early ones, you realise how much Wizards missed out to begin with. It's happening all over again with the new promos, and there are some fantastic cards out there that we will never see the light of day of in the West. Plus, these guys make the game, so without them we wouldn't even have the TCG. Without the collaboration of PCL, PUSA and other gaming bodies, the TCG would never have stayed as popular as it has been over recent years. Sure, it doesn't enjoy the dizzying heights it had back in the late 90's, but there is still a strong fan base behind all aspects of Pokémon, and Bulbapedia is proof of that. [[User:Nuva-kal|Nuva-kal]] 14:30, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::well, i respect that. that makes a lot of sence. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:37, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Speaking of some of the Vending cards, what of the checklists from series 3? Due to the number sign, it's impossible to have the article exactly named "Checklist #1 (Vending S3)" and the like. Personally, I'd take the same approach used for the Blaine's Quizzes. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 23:51, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
:The checklist names are placeholders for now, because the title of the card is the name of the deck those cards in the checklist are for. As soon as I dig up the names of the decks, I'll change the links. [[User:Nuva-kal|Nuva-kal]] 09:22, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Do you know the last 6 illustrators for the {{TCG|"P" Promotional cards}}? That's the only thing holding back those cards' creations. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 14:58, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure it's [[Midori Harada]] - I don't have a crystal clear image of the cards, but the illustrations (particularly the Mewtwo) are similar to her art style. The illus. for each of the cards are taken from one large piece that features the six Pokémon, so she is credited for all six. [[User:Nuva-kal|Nuva-kal]] 15:35, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

== Some card name translations ==

Hiya, I'm about to make a page for the 11th movie commemoration set from Japan, but there are two cards whose names I'm unsure of. This one, "氷空のシェイミ", I think is Icy Sky Shaymin, and this one, "反転世界のギラティナ", I think is Reverse World Giratina, but I'm not sure. If you could help, I'd much appreciate it. If you want the pages there are on, I'll link. [[User:Double Dash|Cipher]] 11:04, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
:It is Reverse World Giratina, but only the one that is the Origin Forme. I am unsure what the Shaymin is. The information I got for it is here: [http://light.cvgrenier.com/tcg/japanese/VS/11movie.htm] so if you would like to check that out... ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 12:53, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
::I think Icy Sky is pretty accurate, though the last two characters before Shaymin literally translate as 'air travel' in some things I put it through! Your assumptions are better English name-wise than some of the translations I have seen for them, so I would go with those.[[User:Nuva-kal|Nuva-kal]] 13:13, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Sadly, I cannot translate Kanji. I always just compare the attack with the same attack on other cards. Most of the time, they are the same. But sadly, Heart Swap has not appeared on an English card yet, but I will still try to find what it says. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:29, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
::::And actually, If you can give me me the indecent English, I can probably convert it into TCG Language. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:31, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::I may be wrong, but it should be something to the effect of switching abilities and damage counters with another Pokémon. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:23, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::I think it is something along the lines of that, yes. I've got the template for the card all done but it's on another computer, so I the earliest I can upload it is tomorrow. I am planning to tackle the PLAY promos next. Some I know are already in English, but it's the "owners" ones I want to try and do, as I expect a few people might want to know what they do. Thanks for taking a look at it. '''[[Surf (move)|~~]]''''''[[User:nuva-kal|nuva]]''''''-'''[[User_talk:nuva-kal|'''kal''']] 16:50, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

== Skarmory card ==

The second attack on the Skarmory card, (メタルスラッシュ) translates as "Metal Slash". ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 23:22, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
:And the text should say: {{tt|Skarmory|this Pokémon}} can't attack during your opponent's next turn. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 01:39, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks guys! '''[[Surf (move)|~~]]''''''[[User:nuva-kal|nuva]]''''''-'''[[User_talk:nuva-kal|'''kal''']] 10:47, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

== {{TCG ID|5th Movie Half Deck|Alto Mare's Latias|11}} and {{TCG ID|5th Movie Half Deck|Alto Mare's Latios|12}} ==

I found these two pages created by an amateur created rather messily and had hotlinked images inserted. I've done some cleanup on them, but I'm going to need someone who can decipher the images for full cleanup. Can you help me on this? Thanks.

For the record, the hotlinked images can still be found within the edit histories, so you don't have to go searching around on outside sites for them. Not that the images would have been [[serebii.net|that hard to find]] anyway...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 19:46, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
:I've gone over them the best I can - there wasn't that much more to do with them, you did a fine job yourself! '''[[Surf (move)|~~]]''''''[[User:nuva-kal|nuva]]''''''-'''[[User_talk:nuva-kal|'''kal''']] 10:52, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

== Question ==
Hey, Nuva-kal... Your username interests me, as it is reminiscent of LEGO's BIONICLE series (mainly I'm talking about the Toa Nuva and Bohrok Kal). Are (or were) you into it? Please reply on [[User Talk:Palkiajosh|My Talk Page]]. And while you're at it, could please maybe see [[User:Palkiajosh|my userpage]]? [[User:Palkiajosh|Palkiajosh]] 00:42, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

== Card translation ==

Hi there, I'm having a little trouble translating something...my Japanese is pretty poor in the first place, but I'm not sure what the attack names on [http://www.pokemon-card.com/card/details.php/card/18003 this card] are. As far as the first attack goes, I think the text is "Flip a coin. If heads, the Defending Pokémon is now Paralyzed." I think, but I'm uncertain, the second attack is "Discard 2 basic Energy cards from Heatran. (If you can't discard 2 basic Energy cards from Heatran, this attack does nothing.)"

Please can you help clear this up for me? Thanks, [[User:Double Dash|Double Dash]] 10:19, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
:Ahhh, its sooo much easier to put it through translation sites when you have the japanese text! The first attack is Body Slam and reads "Flip a coin. If heads, the Defending Pokémon is now Paralyzed". The second is Fire Spin and reads "Discard 2 Energy cards attached to Heatran in order to use this attack." Since these attacks already exist in English, its easy to make correlations and translate them to how they would actually appear on an English TCG card an use English TCG terminology. Its older cards that are a pain because I have to hunt down the kanji I need (my computer can't read Japanese and no matter how many times I try, won't install the East Asia language pack), then translate them. '''[[Surf (move)|~~]]''''''[[User:nuva-kal|nuva]]''''''-'''[[User_talk:nuva-kal|'''kal''']] 10:52, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

::Thanks very much! I've been able to [[Heatran ("DP-P" Promo 83)|make the article]] now, so thanks again. =) [[User:Double Dash|Double Dash]] 11:15, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
:::No problem. As long as there is a full spoiler version of the card on the website, just run the URL through Google and hit the "translate" link to the right of the page link. From the (sometimes very rough) translations, it should be relatively easy to make a gist of what the attack is. I would hold off doing the more recent promos, just incase PUSA decide to do POP 8 with a few of these (fingers crossed) instead of purely artwork variations. '''[[Surf (move)|~~]]''''''[[User:nuva-kal|nuva]]''''''-'''[[User_talk:nuva-kal|'''kal''']] 11:40, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

::::That's the hope, there are becoming too many random promos to fit into sets. I actually hope we don't get any Pokémon LV.X in POP Series sets - a non-holo LV.X wouldn't be pretty. But yeah, I'm gonna hold off the rest of the DP-P cards until we hear about POP8. [[User:Double Dash|Double Dash]] 11:52, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::We do have the ability to move pages, I'd rather have the page and then move it instead of waiting for the card to maybe be released... ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 01:40, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Can you link the page you found that Mew information on? I have a hunch on what it says, but I need to be sure. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 22:19, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
:Its the from the official card site, I just ran it through Google translator. The original page is here: -[http://www.pokemon-card.com/carddb/detail.php?no=465]. '''[[Surf (move)|~~]]''''''[[User:nuva-kal|nuva]]''''''-'''[[User_talk:nuva-kal|'''kal''']] 08:16, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
I think that the card attacks say:
*If the Defending Pokémon is a Basic Pokémon, your opponent can't evolve that Pokémon during his or her next turn. If the Defending Pokémon is an Evolved Pokémon, discard 1 card attached to that Pokémon and return it to your opponent's hand.
*Each player may choose 1 Pokemon card in his or her discard pile, show it to his or her opponent, then shuffle it into his or her deck.
And, I would like to thank you for doing the Promotional cards with me, I was stuck on what to do with the rest of the cards and I am glad that you are doing them as well. Thanks! Also, do you know what attack this is: あくむのまい? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:10, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
:Thanks for the attacks. It's great doing these cards with another person who knows what they're doing - it was such a daunting task when I began doing them earlier in the year, so a huge thanks to you for doing so many of them recently. The last two characters are throwing up a lot of options for the attack name, but the most plausible name for the attack is "Nightmare Dance". '''[[Surf (move)|~~]]''''''[[User:nuva-kal|nuva]]''''''-'''[[User_talk:nuva-kal|'''kal''']] 18:28, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
::Well, that makes sense because it is for Butler's Kirlia. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:31, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
:::That wasn't bad for a guess! '''[[Surf (move)|~~]]''''''[[User:nuva-kal|nuva]]''''''-'''[[User_talk:nuva-kal|'''kal''']] 18:34, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Could you tell me what the first attack on this card is [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:RebeccaMetagross.jpg]? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:25, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
:Literal translation is "Psycho Boom", but most cards in English that have a Japanese translation of Psycho tendo to change it to Psy, so English equivalent would be "Psy-Boom". '''[[Surf (move)|~~]]''''''[[User:nuva-kal|nuva]]''''''-'''[[User_talk:nuva-kal|'''kal''']] 12:38, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

== Trainer cards ==

Trainer cards are tough, so these mght not be exact, I only have two as of right now. If these are incorrect, I am sorry, but this is the best I can do for now.
*Mysterious Pearl: Search your discard pile for a Pokémon card, show it to your opponent, and put it in your hand.
*Miracle Diamond: Search your discard pile for a Trainer card, show it to your opponent, and put it in your hand.
I also have translations fot the Lucky Stadium cards, Pichu and Pikachu, and the Hoppip card from {{TCG|Unnumbered Promotional cards}}. I will try to work on those later...And I say you do this earlier: link templates won't work by themselves when creating Redirects, you either have to link the exact title of the page or substitute the link template you need. I will try to get the other two translations later. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 01:43, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
:Thanks. With that redirect, I accidentally pressed save instead of preview, then before I could alter it, the bot jumped in. Then while doing it again, you must have. My computer was acting slowly then, or maybe it was the fact that there were four or five edits in the same timespace! '''[[Surf (move)|~~]]''''''[[User:nuva-kal|nuva]]''''''-'''[[User_talk:nuva-kal|'''kal''']] 11:08, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

== Re: Golden Oldies ==

Titles and names I can do with limited problems. Unfortunately, the body text of the cards is just a little outside my realm of expertise. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:20, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

User talk:$aturn¥oshi

2008-08-11T14:17:04Z

$aturn¥oshi: When I search the wiki on Yahoo, one article seems to stand out.

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And... No, my name does ''not'' come from a [[Saturn|member]] of [[Team Galactic]].
 
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Thank you, and have a good time editing here! --[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 01:23, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

:Thanks! ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:31, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
::No problemo and ok.'''[[User:CoolPikachu!|♫Cool]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|Pikachu]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|!♫]]'''
== Neat ==
Your sig is cool. Where'd you learn wiki coding? --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 01:36, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah your fast '''[[User:CoolPikachu!|♫Cool]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|Pikachu]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|!♫]]'''

::I used to edit frequently on Wikipedia, until the users became too elitist. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:42, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

:::Ohh I also came from there but was on it seldomly '''[[User:CoolPikachu!|♫Cool]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|Pikachu]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|!♫]]'''

== Newcomer? ==
You're new here, too? (Oh, and I got Darkrai at Toys 'R' Us. He disliked me when I first got him! Thanks for responding back.) {{ani|385}}[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 17:29, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Apparently, it looks as though you leave something whenever I leave something on the Talk pages... A stalker Darkrai hiding in the shadows, following me? Just kidding, I actually appreciate it since I just started out today. ^.^ [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 19:44, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

== Question ==

Are you willing to do more? I can't do them myself because my computer can't read Japanese, so I can't be sure with any characters I use. I want to know how you are doing it, are you just searching attacks that the Pokémon might have? because if you are, that won't work for very long. Many of the cards have weird attacks that aren't present in the games and I was just wondering if that was how you were doing it. If you don't want to do more...I understand. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:12, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:Well then, I have a long list so we might as well get started now. {{TCG ID|5th Movie Half Deck|Oakley's Ariados|1}}. I think it would be better if I just link you the picture instead of posting the picture on your talk page: [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Oakleyariados.jpg] ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:34, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

::I won't be able to do too much right now, but I will get cracking on this as soon as I have more time. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:37, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:::That is perfectly fine. Just post the attacks on my page when you finish them! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:45, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:Okay, the following might be tough with the Poké-Body in it but: [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Samiyachatot1.jpg] I do not expect you to translate it for me right now, I am dealing with the mess known as {{TCG|"PCG-P" Promotional cards}} (which this card is actually in). ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:24, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
::A new Samiya's Chatot!! [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Samiyachatot2.jpg] ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 15:53, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
::I'm not sure about the Continuous Scratch because the damage is only 20, Continuous Scratch is an attack that would have 20× instead of just 20. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:04, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Okay. I'll give it another go. It's amazing that you can get completely different results by being just one character off. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:31, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
:If you can't get it, we can move on because I put the translation notice on the page. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:40, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Can I ask you to do something different for me? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 15:29, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah, go ahead. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:54, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::I need the kanji from the name in the top left corner for each of the following:
<gallery>
Image:Normalmovie.jpg
</gallery>
Could you do that for me please? If you click on the image, it should be bigger on the Archives. (Sorry if it seems like a lot...) ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:21, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:Well I was kinda right, something with translation~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 16:22, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::YES!!! That is exactly what I need (as far as I can tell, remember, I can't read Japanese on my computer) If you can get them all, you just pulled me out the hole I was in!! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:36, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Yay! Knocked out three. Only seven left. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:40, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::Aaron and Tory have their Jap. names already, but they have additions (like last names) added onto them. They are up there because I don't know what belongs and what doesn't. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:10, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Seven down. Three more to do! ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 00:11, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

== Diamond and Pearl Poketch ==

Actually, check the game, it says that Poketch is short for Pokemon Tech. Of this I am certain as I have had this argument with a number of people and they all agree with me now. {{Unsigned|Admiralaew}}
:Quote from the father of the President on the second floor of the Pokétch Company: "Pokémon Watch! That's Pokétch for short." ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 22:56, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

::Actually, I did check the game. It says Pokémon Watch. Those that believe you when you tell them "Pokémon Tech" are {{p2|Mareep|sheep}}. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 23:17, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

:::I'm sorry, I concede. I realized what happened, basically I wasn't paying attention, stupid me, very very sorry. On a side note, I am curious as to how you create your signature. {{Unsigned|Admiralaew}}
::::For starters, sign your comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. For info on creating a custom sig, see the new {{bp|signature policy}}. It also contains rules on what you can and can't do with your sig, so read it carefully. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 23:44, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::That's basically the gist of it. Thank you, Martonimos. If you have a good grasp on wiki coding, you can create a sig that you like. It took a while for me to come up with this one, it's a altered version of my old Wikipedia signature. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:59, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

== Adminship ==

To be honest, I don't really feel like I deserve it. I'm kind of an ass on wikis. (And wasn't TTE kind of throwing power around to clean up the Capulet disaster quicker...?) Not to sound ungrateful. ;[--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 00:32, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

:I wasn't on during that fiasco, but out of all the people that were on you were one of the few that were selected. In my eyes, that counts for something. I don't think of you as being ungrateful, you're just unsure is all. Don't worry, everything will slip into place. Of this I am confident. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 03:15, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

== Cards ==

Finally, you are done, I can put you to work on something else{{tt|*|Don't worry, this next thing will be the last thing I need you to do for me for a while, I have a lot to do right now}}! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:33, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

:Okay. :D ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 03:34, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
::I need to know what the attacks off of the following are. And once again, Thank you so much!! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:39, 18 July 2008 (UTC) 
<Gallery>
Image:Ash'sTreeckocard.jpg
Image:May'sTorchiccard.jpg
Image:Brock'sMudkipcard.jpg
</gallery>
:Thank you...the attack Treecko has is most likely Tail Slap: a move that other Treecko have in the TCG. And there actually is a Water Arrow attack; so, you are correct for those. Thank you. I won't ask you to do anything for me for a while; I have about 6 sets to finish with the information that you've given me already. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:47, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

::You are welcome. Glad I could be of service. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 22:49, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

== ok? ==
ok bro i dun care if im off 1 day or 1 week i dont go on this website everyday... dont take it too hard im not cussing at u or anything im just saying that i have a life ~~Ritchie~~

:I'm just saying that I don't care. Not to sound rude or anything. (Okay, maybe a little rude...) ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:56, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

== Congrats ==

Nice Job on getting ur missions accomplished, but u missed the Trozei! page itself--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 00:55, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:THUN THUN THUN!!!! ~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 00:57, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

::Got 'em. It's because I was looking for links. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 00:59, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:::hmm...~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 01:00, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

== Welcoming ==

Most of those were vandals and we don't welcome vandals. No biggie though, just remember for next time.''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:48, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

:Sorry, sometimes I get a little too carried away with my copy-and-pasting. Like I stated before, I wasn't on when that whole vandal war went down. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:12, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

== A favour to ask of you ==

Still in awe at the amount of work that has gone into the Japanese cards, I now have a bit of time to start mucking in again. You seem to be Orange's choice for help with these, and I'm in the same situation as him computer-wise, so could you help me with a card too?
<gallery>
Image:SkarmoryIntro.jpg
</gallery>
This is the only one I can't find a source for, I was wondering if you could get the translation for the name and text of the second attack. I know the first attack is "Peck" and the second is "Metal"-something. I can't quite make out some characters in the text. Thanks! [[User:Nuva-kal|Nuva-kal]] 20:30, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Can you also do this as well as the kirlia...I need the kanji and translation off of this and the attack if possible. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:17, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
<gallery>
Image:Celebi J promo.jpg
</gallery>
:Thank you! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 01:53, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

::Glad I could help. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:58, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Can you get me the attacks off the following? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:10, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
<gallery>
Image:ButlerKirlia1.jpg
</gallery>

== Golden Oldies ==

Sorry to bother you again, but these card articles I want to create are so old and rare, they don't have entries in the card database, and I don't have the kanji for them to translate. So I was wondering if you could get the kanji for the title and body text for the cards listed?

Secret Super Battle No. 1 [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:SecretSuperBattleNo1.jpg]

Tropical Mega Battle No. 1 [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:TropicalMegaBattleNo1.jpg]

No. 1 Trainer (2000/2001) [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:No1Trainer00.jpg]

Victory Ring [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:VictoryRingTrainer.jpg]

Victory Orb [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:VictoryOrbTrainer.jpg]

Victory Orb (Mew) [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:VictoryMewTrainer.jpg]

I know this is a rather large request, but finding out what these cards do will be a real treat for some collectors out there (me included!) Thanks. '''[[Surf (move)|~~]]''''''[[User:nuva-kal|nuva]]''''''-'''[[User_talk:nuva-kal|'''kal''']] 20:24, 10 August 2008 (UTC)