User talk:Weedle Mchairybug

Psst. Capitalize your sentences. Don't capitalize random words that aren't important. Follow the manual of style and good ol' English grammar. And accent that é in Pokémon! TTEchidna 23:23, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

As TTEchidna said, Capitalize your sentences! And where did you get the idea that Misty was the champion of the Togepi competition? IT WASN'T REAL! It was a trap set by Team Rocket so that they could steal her Togepi for Colonel Hansen. --☆ケンジガール 21:53, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

WOW!!! Though your new, you put up a very good, strong point in arguements! I congratulate you on that! You should start making edits on regular pages, not just talk pages. Good Job!!! --Theryguy512 22:21, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Contents 1 Errors 2 Misty's Togetic 3 Brock: Only character who looks Japanese 4 Movie 11 5 Try not to be so biased... 6 Linking to other wikis 7 Let me explain something to you 8 Arceus/Mew dispute

Errors

I really don't think they are errors, Ash has a long journey that's still going, you can't expect him to remember every moment that happened to him. TheBlazikenMaster 15:00, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, yeah, but May's was just beginning and the Rubello convention was just after the Fallabor contest, so that same logic can't be applied there. And anyways, it's not that they HAVE to remember everything, but that doesn't mean they should act as though they never heard of it. I mean, that's like forgetting the day of your birth. Besides, how can he forget about a pokemon he owned?!Weedle Mchairybug 15:16, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

You do realize its just a tv show. So the writers forgot to have him remember something. Thats an error.Emperor's Cookies 15:20, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Ok, it fit under error, but just memory error. I still think it's not error as in "senseless". Ok, I am keeping those in the articles as it might look interesting. But I still think the word "forget" is a better way to describe it than "acted like he never heard of...", since that's what's happening, if you act like something never happens the best way to describe it is with the word forget. I am not planning on removing from EP233 or AG072, don't worry. But I still think the word forget is a better way to word it than "acts like he's never heard of". Besides, Ash only had the Primeape for a few episodes, I'm not surprised he forgot about it. TheBlazikenMaster 21:14, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Misty's Togetic

Ok, u win, just fix the grammar!--KukiTalk 12:17, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

:Done and done. Also, thanks. Weedle Mchairybug 12:24, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Brock: Only character who looks Japanese

WRONG! It's him, Flint, and the Harrison Kids!--KukiTalk 15:09, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Sigh, let me clarify, Brock is the only one of the MAIN characters who looked Japanese. Flint, his siblings, Harrison Kids, Ninetales owner, Suziko, and that Mime jr/Bonsly show director were either side characters or one-shots. If you edited it, I'll revert the edit and make sure I clarified what I was trying to convey Weedle Mchairybug 15:15, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Movie 11

I am going to overlook the fact that you overrode an editorial member's contribution without even paying attention to whether or not it supported your point (for instance, you deleted the paragraph in which I stated that the movies marks Origine Forme and Sky Forme's debuts; how is that controversial?). It is childish conduct, but I am used to it by now.

You should have realized that the content I deleted was all conjecture; I couldn't have very well stated erroneous or unfounded information when I only removed other members' conjecture, could I? It may be true that when the first movie was revealed we had good reason to believe that Palkia would tag along with Dialga, but even back then that was not clearly implied. Since then, Dialga and Regigigas have been shown to have some role in the movie on numerous occasions, whereas Palkia has all but been forgotten. As for the new Pokémon, early toy advertisements led some to believe that the unrevealed Pokémon would pertain to the next generation. Since then, Sky Forme has been unveiled and confirmed to be that very same unrevealed Pokémon, leaving no viable reason to suspect that that speculation could still have merit.

All of the above warranted the deletion of the conjecture from the page as soon as last month. But I have refrained from doing so because I knew that certain members' obstinacy could prove problematic. However, by now circumstances have changed due to the fact that the movie has premiered in an early showing in a limited number of Japanese theaters. We already have a synopsis that may not be full-fledged, but is good enough to remove doubt on the subject of Palkia and new Pokémon: They are nowhere to be seen. --Unown Lord 09:13, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Try not to be so biased...

Even if Hidaka's statement did sound kinda sexist, well, shit, it's true. Have you seen the amount of 34 there is of Pokémon, and not just of the human characters? I'm sure you have. Face it, older fans are complete pervs, and it's not like giving Misty short shorts, May a huge rack, and Dawn a short skirt isn't just as sexist. Heck, you couldn't even PLAY as a girl until Crystal! It's not that they're being sexist; it's that they have the internet and know of all the stuff out there... and so therefore, like in Steamboat Willies, fanservice, fanservice, fanservice.

Anyway, I reworded the statement, hoping to be more NPOV. Now I'm gonna go wash my keyboard off, because I don't wanna start becoming one of those acronym-throwing Wikipedos. TTEchidna 23:22, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Actually, if I was being biased, I would have only inserted it into Misty's article, and not even have bothered to insert it in May and Dawns articles. Besides, technically, you can play as a girl before Kris, since Misty was playable in Pokemon Puzzle League. And since Love hina comes to mind, in my mindset, Fanservice = sexist. And anyways, May and Dawn were even MORE Fanservicey than Misty (I go by the definition that it's only fanservicey if the person clearly enjoys doing the scandalous thing, or at least implies the enjoyment [Like the majority of the characters in LH, for example.].). Weedle Mchairybug 23:53, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

I've said this already, but you do not control the definitions of words. Society does. Especially on a wiki, it's important to rely on objective definitions rather than subjective opinions. And even if we go by your definition, Misty clearly enjoyed showing off her body in the Porta Vista Beauty Contest, dressing in that Goldeen swimsuit, and in that mermaid costume, and I don't recall Dawn doing anything "scandalous" on purpose. --PsychoRobo 17:09, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

No, Misty DIDN'T enjoy the Porta Vista Beauty Contest. She said "It's so degrading, but I need the money" when having to do it, which meant that she didn't like showing off like a playboy model. Also, in regards to the Goldeen outfit, Misty ALSO didn't enjoy it either. She said something like "at least they aren't taking notice of me", which implied she didn't really like the situation she was in (much less having to wear that outfit.). The Mermaid Outfit, she didn't really like having to wear it (ESP. in "The Misty Mermaid"), especially considering that the only reason she did the part was because her sisters set her up (BTW, she refused several times, but eventually relented when she realized her sisters needed help in regards to it). Also, the only reason she agreed to wear the outfit in "Cerulean Blues" was to try and calm down Gyarados. that's FAR Different compared to something like... Oh, I don't know, May's clear enjoyment of stripping on the beach, or Kanako Urashima's complete gladness of stripping (and even doing it in front of her brother at one point.

As for what Dawn did that was scandalous, she dressed up as a French Maid (which was a common Japanese Fetish), among other things.Weedle Mchairybug 18:46, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Main series games only--KukiTalk 23:53, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Dude, who doesn't enjoy going to the beach? Besides, is May supposed to wear her regular clothes and GO SWIMMING? And don't forget, Ash wore those clothes too. TTEchidna 00:56, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

I was referring to the swimsuit contest, since THAT was what you referenced. Also, yes, it's a bit impractical for her to wear her regular clothes and go swimming at the same time, but that doesn't mean she should have stripped in a strip-tease fashion, with her brother practically begging for her to stop doing it, and both he and ash being embarrassed. It's not the question of whether they enjoy going to the beach or not, it's whether they enjoying causing a scandal or not. If you try to disrupt this one more time, I WILL end up being forced to post Love Hina Pics to try and prove what exactly I meant by Fanserviced girls enjoying doing scandalous things. Weedle Mchairybug 01:18, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

I've come to realize that that's what anime does. They're basically all the same. They make the girls into fanservice. Look at YuGiOh GX. The guys wear respectable uniforms while the girls trot around in mini skirts with huge breasts. Come to think of it, Pokémon is being pretty lenient when it comes to fanservice compared to other animes. Not all of the girls have huge breasts unless they are older women (Lorelei and Prof. Ivy). --☆ケンジガール 01:23, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

May also has the racks as well, which, along with the other things, makes me want to stop it. Weedle Mchairybug 01:29, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Pffsst. You call that a rack? I don't get why people think May's boobs are big. That's just my opinion. --☆ケンジガール 01:32, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Maybe they aren't as big as Prima's, but they are definitely far too large for her age. I mean, ask her side profile pictures if you don't believe me. Weedle Mchairybug 01:33, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Love Hina pics? If I was more of the male Internet user stereotype, I'd jump for joy at the prospect, but at least someone else might garner "enjoyment" out of them. In the meantime, I'll prepare for the event by giving you a picture of Slave Leia (from Star Wars Episode VI) as soon as I'm back on Bulbagarden forums, because obviously it is not fanservice because she obviously did not enjoy it and it did serve a more meaningful purpose than showing off Carrie Fisher's sweet bod.

Crikey, you make such a big deal out of the "stripping" scene. If anything, it was Max's fault for suggesting that it was striptease in the first place, because, oh, maybe changing into swimsuits on the beach is normal? Besides, American cartoons are arguably worse with these kind of jokes, because several episodes have little boys running around naked (Dexter's Laboratory and The Fairly OddParents, as examples). And yes, controversy over children's TV shows have been done to death already in North America, so I guess you're out of a job when it comes to American cartoons. And I suspect (directed at Kenji-girl) that people think May's boobs are big because this is the Internet, where everything is blown out of proportion.

I laughed at your claim that Dawn dressing up as a French maid was scandalous. Okay, so Ash also dressing up as a maid is not scandalous? What about Ash's recent Tarzan outfit (check Bulbagarden's Ash Club for details)? Or are you being sexist against males by suggesting they can't be hot too? --PsychoRobo 15:31, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Look, I don't enjoy those things anymore than you do. I used that as a way to try and stop you from doing that (mocking me).

Also, everyone else made a big deal out of the striptease as well! And anyways, blame the writers as well, since they set it up as a striptease as well. And also blame Ash for looking embarrased about what he just saw. and anyways, MOST people wear an undershirt when they go to the beach. They DON'T, however, go to the beach in their regular clothes and take them off in front of everyone. also, I barely even WATCH Fairly OddParents (as a matter of fact, my parents, as well as I, avoided that show like the plague for the same reasons they mostly avoid the Simpsons.), and while I used to watch Dexters Laboratory, I started to hate it when they did that musical episode.

and another thing, an entire THREAD was made in regards to how Pokemon was becoming more fetishish and used Dawn's Cheerleader and Maid costumes as an example. I'll eliminate every single sexist action on this planet, male and female alike. Besides, how can I be sexist with my own gender? By being sexist towards males, I'm being sexist towards myself. And anyways, Ash didn't even WANT to wear the Maids outfit, as you can tell by his blushing out of humiliation.

I have warned you that if you don't stop mocking me, I WILL be forced to post those pics if it stops you. And I will act on it, even though I feel as though this is a mistake. I have hated these pics, but they prove my point as to how degrading fanservice is, and most importantly, how the characters in question actually DO enjoy causing this scandal. You have brought this upon yourself...

However, I'll be a bit merciful and delay it until I successfully upload the first part of my video, which, as soon as I download Version 12 of Pinnacle, shouldn't take too long, since the Images in question are ON this video. HOWEVER, that doesn't mean you are allowed to mock me. I mean, think of it this way, if your parents, or your friends (real life friends, I mean), mentioned their dislike of May OR Dawn, would you act the very same way towards them that you act towards me? If the answer is no, take that into account before you try to mock me again.

Weedle Mchairybug 16:17, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

And that entire sexism thread lost all credibility after its first response, when Blackjack Palazzo claimed she wished to see more male fanservice. And there was another girl that said it was mostly males that argue over this kind of thing, and the girls don't see much of a problem. So much for feminism, eh? Plus, I don't know many males who would willingly cross-dress, besides characters like Harley, James, and Bugs Bunny. Ash's unwillingness to wear it is thus irrelevant. I also don't know what a musical episode of Dexter's Laboratory has to do with the discussion. Please stop throwing non sequiturs around if you wish to be taken seriously.

Oh, you're being merciful? Well, that's just a bit more time to postpone posting Slave Leia pics on your account, then. Anyways, who said I didn't enjoy fanservice? It's so fun to mock.

As for your last question, of course I would still act the same way towards you. Why should I let other people control the way I think? A lot of people don't like Pokemon in my school, so your "peer pressure" argument barely fazes me. Oh, wait, you're jealous, aren't you? You're jealous because I scored with the same Serebii mod that banned you. You can't believe that I could get on her good side while you ended up becoming the laughingstock of Serebii's idiot hunters, and that's why you put the "real life friends" part. Well, maybe if you weren't trying to usurp her position by judging everyone on the forum with your "holier-than-thou" attitude (kind of like Lisa Simpson), then maybe you wouldn't be in the position you are now! P.S. This is becoming increasingly irrelevant to Bulbapedia editing. If you wish to continue, put this on my Bulbagarden or Pokecommunity account (MetaRobo/PorygonSquared, respectively). PsychoRobo 16:48, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Linking to other wikis

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Thanks. ♪♪Shiny Pachirisu :) ♪♪ 00:38, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Let me explain something to you

Just because I said that it doesn't only apply to Misty doesn't mean you can go and put it on May and Dawn's pages.

The reason we have a page on SOVA, despite being a fan thing, is because it was a big deal. This isn't so much a big deal that caused fans to write hundreds of letters. Infact I doubt that many people even know about it.

We already mention what he said on his page and how some fans find it offensive. We don't need to affiliate the character with it as well. Yes it was a shitty thing to say but we don't need to be reminded of it everytime we visit Misty, May, or Dawn's pages. --☆ケンジガール 11:35, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Fine, I won't edit the pages, and I'm also sorry for my response on your talk page, while I'm at it. However, I'm only stopping because Hidaka's page already mentioned it. and anyways, as far as I'm concerned, if it doesn't apply to just one person involved, it applies to ALL people involved. So, next time you say something like that, try it in a way that I can understand. Weedle Mchairybug 11:40, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Arceus/Mew dispute

I've put up a full explanation at Talk:Arceus (Pokémon)#Arceus vs. Mew. I don't mean to sound so aggressive, but there truly is no real basis for considering Mew the first. At best, it should be mentioned that the fan community considered it the first, but that was always fanon and never what the games actually claimed.

Again, sorry if I've offended you.KrytenKoro 06:32, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

I also posted my response on that discussion. And also, Porygon MAY have been made later, but then, if it can't be a descendant of Mew, then HOW can Mew be able to transform into it? I mean, they HAD to have used some form of Mew's DNA in order for it to be able to transform into it and it's family (Besides, they used Mew's DNA to create Mewtwo, who's to say they used ALL of the Mew DNA to transform into it? Besides, the pokedex entries hint that the reason why Mewtwo is savage and aggressive is because they repeatedly spliced Mewtwo's DNA, so I'm guessing they may have used his DNA in Grimer/Muk, Castform, and, yes, even the Porygon Family, so in a sense, they are Mewtwo's Children, and thus, in a sense, Mew's Grandchildren. Weedle Mchairybug 11:00, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Replied on the talk page. As for your comment here, I'm sorry, but it is completely ignorant of any concept of genetics, especially the actual concept of genetic splicing and what DNA does, as well as the actual text of Porygon's Pokedex entries, and the in-game description of how Transform works.

Let me illustrate your basic misunderstanding - a child typically has distinct DNA from two sources ( a mother and a father). You may not know this, but the mother and father generally have completely distinct lineages, and share almost no DNA that all humans don't share - to put it simply, the mother and father are generally not brother and sister, or anything close.

Now, because of this, the child will have DNA from the mother and father. What you are claiming is analogous to saying that the child's father should be able to turn into the child's mother, because the child, his descendant, has DNA from his mother. But this is utter hogwash, and immediately recognizable as lunatic raving. The very use of sexual reproduction in macro-evolution is that it introduces NEW genes into the gene pool.

If transformation were inherent in the species at all, it would be obvious to even the casual observer that it would be the child who could be expected to be able to transform into both the father or mother, as his very nature is to be a collection of both of their DNA.KrytenKoro 05:57, 11 August 2008 (UTC)