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User talk:SnorlaxMonster/Sandbox/Clarified Evobox

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This template is nowhere near done, but here are some things it can do. Special cases are things it probably won't do and will need their own templates.

General cases

Note that colors will default to unknown as the template automatically colors itself depending on if the page title matches one of the Pokémon's names.

Level

Specific level

Rattata
Unevolved
Rattata
 Normal 
Rare Candy
Level up
to level 20 or higher


Raticate
First evolution
Raticate
 Normal 


Specific level (gender)
Combee
Unevolved
Combee
 Bug  Flying 
Rare Candy
Level up
to level 21 or higher
(female)


Vespiquen
First evolution
Vespiquen
 Bug  Flying 


Specific level (stat)
Tyrogue
Baby form
Tyrogue
 Fighting 
Rare Candy
Level up
to level 20 or higher
(Attack > Defense)


Egg
Breed

Hitmonlee
First evolution
Hitmonlee
 Fighting 


Friendship

Buneary
Unevolved
Buneary
 Normal 
Soothe Bell
Level up
with friendship of 220 or higher


Lopunny
First evolution
Lopunny
 Normal 


With move

Aipom
Unevolved
Aipom
 Normal 
TM Normal
Level up
knowing Double Hit


Ambipom
First evolution
Ambipom
 Normal 


Held item

This is an example solely to test level-held item evolution; for the real Sneasel example, see below.

Sneasel
Unevolved
Sneasel
 Dark  Ice 
Razor Claw
Level up
holding Razor Claw


Weavile
First evolution
Weavile
 Dark  Ice 


Held item (time)
Sneasel
Unevolved
Sneasel
 Dark  Ice 
Razor Claw
Level up
holding Razor Claw
(night)


Weavile
First evolution
Weavile
 Dark  Ice 


Bag item

This is an example solely to test level-Bag item evolution; for the real Espeon example, see below.

Eevee
Unevolved
Eevee
 Normal 
Moon Stone
Level up
with Moon Stone in Bag


Espeon
First evolution
Espeon
 Psychic 


Location

Moss Rock
Eevee
Unevolved
Eevee
 Normal 
Moss Rock
Level up
at a Moss Rock


Leafeon
First evolution
Leafeon
 Grass 


Ice Rock
Eevee
Unevolved
Eevee
 Normal 
Ice Rock
Level up
at a Ice Rock


Glaceon
First evolution
Glaceon
 Ice 


Magnetic location
Nosepass
Unevolved
Nosepass
 Rock 
Town Map
Level up
in a special magnetic field


Probopass
First evolution
Probopass
 Rock  Steel 


Party Pokémon

Mantyke
Baby form
Mantyke
 Water  Flying 
Remoraid
Level up
with Remoraid in party


Wave Incense
Breed
holding Wave Incense

Mantine
First evolution
Mantine
 Water  Flying 


Contest stat

This is an example solely to test level-Contest stat evolution; for the real Feebas example, see below.

Feebas
Unevolved
Feebas
 Water 
Blue Scarf
Level up
with Beauty of 170


Milotic
First evolution
Milotic
 Water 


Trade

This is an example solely to test trade evolution; I have only set up the first evolution so I can't test a real example as they are all as the second evolution.

Graveler
Unevolved
Graveler
 Rock  Ground 
Pal Pad
Trade
 


Golem
First evolution
Golem
 Rock  Ground 


Held item

Onix
Unevolved
Onix
 Rock  Ground 
Metal Coat
Trade
holding Metal Coat


Steelix
First evolution
Steelix
 Steel  Ground 


Trade for specific Pokémon

Shelmet
Unevolved
Shelmet
 Bug 
Karrablast
Trade
for Karrablast


Accelgor
First evolution
Accelgor
 Bug 


Stone

Growlithe
Unevolved
Growlithe
 Fire 
Fire Stone
Fire Stone
 


Arcanine
First evolution
Arcanine
 Fire 


Unknown

Eevee
Unevolved
Eevee
 Normal 
Unknown
Unknown
 


Sylveon
First evolution
Sylveon
 Fairy 


Special cases

Not sure if I'm going to actually code these in, but here they are as how I want them to look (whether I use a custom template or implement it). Nincada and Tyrogue are virtually fine the way they are now (they would just need some parameter name updates).

Eevee

Horizontal

I prefer this one, but I'm offering the old style as well if people like that.

Eevee
Unevolved
Eevee
 Normal 
Water Stone
Water Stone
Vaporeon
First evolution
Vaporeon
 Water 

Thunder Stone
Thunderstone
Jolteon
First evolution
Jolteon
 Electric 

Fire Stone
Fire Stone
Flareon
First evolution
Flareon
 Fire 

Soothe Bell
Level up
with friendship of 220 or higher
(day)
(unless near Moss or Ice Rock)


Rare Candy
Level up
with Sun Shard in Bag
Espeon
First evolution
Espeon
 Psychic 

Soothe Bell
Level up
with friendship of 220 or higher
(night)
(unless near Moss or Ice Rock)


Rare Candy
Level up
with Moon Shard in Bag
Umbreon
First evolution
Umbreon
 Dark 

Moss Rock
Level up
near Moss Rock
Leafeon
First evolution
Leafeon
 Grass 

Ice Rock
Level up
near Ice Rock
Glaceon
First evolution
Glaceon
 Ice 

Unknown
Unknown
Sylveon
First evolution
Sylveon
 Fairy 

Vertical

Eevee
Unevolved
Eevee
 Normal 
Water Stone
Water Stone
Thunder Stone
Thunderstone
Fire Stone
Fire Stone
Soothe Bell
Level up
with friendship
of 220 or higher
(day)
Rare Candy
Level up
with Sun Shard
in Bag
Soothe Bell
Level up
with friendship
of 220 or higher
(night)
Rare Candy
Level up
with Moon Shard
in Bag
Moss Rock
Level up
near Moss Rock
Ice Rock
Level up
near Ice Rock
Unknown
Unknown
Vaporeon
First evolution
Vaporeon
 Water 
Jolteon
First evolution
Jolteon
 Electric 
Flareon
First evolution
Flareon
 Fire 
Espeon
First evolution
Espeon
 Psychic 
Umbreon
First evolution
Umbreon
 Dark 
Leafeon
First evolution
Leafeon
 Grass 
Glaceon
First evolution
Glaceon
 Ice 
Sylveon
First evolution
Sylveon
 Fairy 

Espeon

Eevee
Unevolved
Eevee
 Normal 
Soothe Bell
Level up
with friendship of 220 or higher
(day)
(unless near Moss or Ice Rock)


Rare Candy
Level up
with Sun Shard in Bag
Espeon
First evolution
Espeon
 Psychic 

Umbreon

Eevee
Unevolved
Eevee
 Normal 
Soothe Bell
Level up
with friendship of 220 or higher
(night)
(unless near Moss or Ice Rock)


Rare Candy
Level up
with Moon Shard in Bag
Umbreon
First evolution
Umbreon
 Dark 

Feebas

Feebas
Unevolved
Feebas
 Water 
Blue Scarf
Level up
with Beauty of 170 or higher

Prism Scale
Trade
holding Prism Scale
Milotic
First evolution
Milotic
 Water 

Comments

I like this template more than the old one

  • I like it because we should be more specific about evolution methods. --Example 16:48, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

I prefer the old one

  • I hate it because it is too confusing. --Example 16:48, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

I have a suggestion

  • Are you covering all the different evolution aspects here? If so you missed a couple, Nincada comes to mind for one. Also I'm guessing that you are excluding side/spinoff games (such as the Mystery Dungeon and Conquest games (and as per twitter)? --Spriteit (talk) 02:44, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
    • My intention is to make a separate template for PMD (I haven't played Conquest so I have no idea how evolution works there). For Nincada, see the note at the top of "Special cases". --SnorlaxMonster 05:39, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Eevee: tall or wide

  • I personally think that the vertical one looks a bit neater because of the separation lines, however, I think it's more convenient to have the horizontal one because readers can see all of the information at the same time rather than having to scroll. It would also save condense the length of the article, which would make it less of a task to scroll through. --Pokemaster97 18:09, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
    • I could try and include divisions on the tall template, but I'm not entirely sure how to put them in. There's a MediaWiki function for horizontal lines, but not one for vertical lines. --SnorlaxMonster 05:39, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
  • As above, I prefer the left to right one. It's more practical. Marked +-+-+ (talk) 09:53, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
  • I prefer the wide one because it covers less area. I think being able to see it all at once is a plus. MaverickNate 23:19, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Okay, looks like the tall one is just impracticable due to not being visible at once. I'll either use wide or an alternate design (see Nate's comment below). --SnorlaxMonster 15:45, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

My comment refuses to fit into your narrow categories

  • What if Eevee's was separate and made with the circular looking design seen here. I think it would be the most appropriate (as eight branches is easiest with a circle) and it would get rid of the nasty unused space present in both the vertical and horizontal options. I don't know how feasible or easy it would be to code that mess, but I think the output would be leagues beyond the two options above. MaverickNate 23:19, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
    • It's probably possible, but it's going to be really hard to do. It will be a potential task to try after I finish everything else with this template. --SnorlaxMonster 15:45, 13 September 2013 (UTC)