User talk:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions
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Farfetch'd
If anything, a Farfetch'd evo should be a Normal/Dark or Dark/Flying ninja. TTEchidna
GSDS! 05:39, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
- i like the idea, but im not sure where you are comming from...you mean how he is very elusive and attacks with a stick like a sword?
MAGNEDETH
TARIDNEDOPT
05:45, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
- It'd be a leek that looks more like a sword. And that's no more violent than a Pokémon with boxing gloves or one that can pretty much shoot missiles. TTEchidna
GSDS! 06:35, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
- Screw the parents, we have Scyther and is anyone going on about that? No. -Mudkipchan 06:41, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
- Ninjetch'd? It just fits. TTEchidna
GSDS! 06:47, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
ネギニンジ Negininja would be its Japanese name, from カモネギ Kamonegi. TTEchidna
GSDS! 07:46, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Ninjetch'd signature move could be Super Swords Dance, a move that increase its attack by 3 levels!-Billy4b2004 09:18, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
- hmm, idk, thats rather absurd...there arent any moves out there that that increase any stat more than twice except for belly drum i think, and that halvs HP. MAGNEDETH 23:43, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
- It doesn't make sense that it is the only Pokémon to have a sword but its Swords Dance is the same of the normal one.-Billy4b2004 06:03, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
- Or its trigger can be: Level-up while holding a Learner's Sword and having Super Swords Dance!-Billy4b2004 05:36, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
- OK, let's lower its Defense for 1 level!-Billy4b2004 10:33, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
Image:Ninjetchd.JPG I made a sprite if you want to use it but I get credit for making the sprite.It is saved under Ninjetchd.JPG CrystalLucario 14:09, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Babies
There should be a baby Pokémon that can evolve into either Miltank and Tauros. Maybe one for the Volbeat... guys too. -Mudkipchan 05:41, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
- And a baby Kangaskhan would definitely be both genders, and males would become Kangaskirk. TTEchidna
GSDS! 05:42, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
- i like the miltank/tauros idea, im not so sure about the Volbeat one (maybe thats because i dont like them)
MAGNEDETH
TARIDNEDOPT
05:45, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
- Yes to male Kangaskhan and baby, they would both solve the missing link of Kangaskhan. Why Game Freak, why must you torment us! And I don't like Volbeat too. :P -05:48, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
- You do know the reference is to Star Trek, right? Kirk was the one who said KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!. TTEchidna
GSDS! 06:10, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
- Kirk is also a name for a boy, of course. :P Mudkipchan 06:13, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
- Well, doesn't "Kangaskhan" sounds sort of like it is based off Genghis Khan (that Mongolian emipre guy??), so maybe name it after his brother/nephew/however that guy was related to him, Kublai Khan? Just putting out the idea. -Theininen 16:52, 27 March 2008 (UTC) (Couldn't make a sig before big testing thing)
- maybe ill add that to my other page MAGNEDETH 07:04, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
- I object. If Kangaskhan couldn't breed, then it still wouldn't explain where the child came from in fact it would probably raise even more questions. Mudkipchan 07:05, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
- thats an even better point. i think the real prob was that they made it a female only with no male, it makes me wonder how they ever exsisted at all!! MAGNEDETH 07:07, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
- No the real problem is not the gender. When a Kangaskhan is born.. as soon as it comes out of the egg, it is an adult that is already bearing another kid. Mudkipchan 07:14, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
- thats an even better point. i think the real prob was that they made it a female only with no male, it makes me wonder how they ever exsisted at all!! MAGNEDETH 07:07, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
- What I meant was that the players can't breed them. Maybe Kangaskhan could have mated in secrecy. You know, the same as legendary Pokémon. We can't breed them but there's no doubt that they can mate. Just not in front of humans. There is that baby Lugia in the anime. --
ケンジ
ガール
07:18, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
- What I meant was that the players can't breed them. Maybe Kangaskhan could have mated in secrecy. You know, the same as legendary Pokémon. We can't breed them but there's no doubt that they can mate. Just not in front of humans. There is that baby Lugia in the anime. --
- Let the debate begin. :P Joking. Well that is possible... But the Lugias just made me go "Meh." when I first watched the episodes surrounding the two, just being honest here. But I'll give you credit that you do have a point here. But now that Game Freak has made the kanga breedable... that missing link just appeared. And before anyone asks, yes I am too lazy to use my sig. Mudkipchan 07:23, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
New Evolutions
You know, the name of the new doesn't always have to match the old. Examples of Pokémon who's names don't have much in common.
- Tyrogue = Hitmon...
- Caterpie = Metapod = Butterfree
- Ekans = Arbok
- Oddish = Gloom = Vileplume or Bellosom
- Meowth = Persian
- Geodude = Graveler = Golem
- Ponyta = Rapidash
- Magikarp = Gyrados
- Nuzleaf = Shiftry
- Wingull = Pelipper
- Ralts = Kirlia = Ga...
- Shroomish = Breloom
- Burmy = Wormadam or Mothim
- Skorupi = Drapion
So vary a little okay?
PokeManiac102
07:00, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
- good point, I'm just a stickler for that stuff. it always bothered me when Pokémon evolutions didn't have similar cries in the games MAGNEDETH 07:06, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Clawsir
One more thing i can't stand. Pinsir is a pun on Pincer. There is no such thing as a Clawcer. Only a Claw.
PokeManiac102
07:07, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
- i did make a note "the name needs work" that being said, what do you think? and do you like the idea of a Bug/Dark type? MAGNEDETH 07:10, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
- wow, if it were real, "Clark" would be the best nickname ever. could go the generic route and say "Darklaw" or something MAGNEDETH 07:13, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
- Hey, Crushir might be a good name.--Pokencyclopedia 22:21, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
- wow, if it were real, "Clark" would be the best nickname ever. could go the generic route and say "Darklaw" or something MAGNEDETH 07:13, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
For Gen II, III, IV
I think a Houndoom evo would be cool. Also a baby form of Absol. And of course a Pachirisu evo. Maybe it could be a flying squirrel and become Electric/Flying.
Anyway, great choices so far. Can't wait to see more --
ケンジ
ガール
07:08, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
- Pachirisu flying squirrel, thats a really good one, ill get one that one. as for Houndoom? idk, hes pretty awesome, ill think about it. MAGNEDETH 07:11, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
- Throw it off a cliff LOL!! That's a good one. Have you ever thought of different Eeveelutions? --
ケンジ
ガール
22:23, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
- I'm all for the idea of a Pachirisu evo, but I'd prefer it to be a pure Electric-type with the Levitate ability.--Pokencyclopedia 22:34, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
- Throw it off a cliff LOL!! That's a good one. Have you ever thought of different Eeveelutions? --
Also, I think that Rotom could use an evolved form. It would basically be more like Pulseman.--Pokencyclopedia 22:34, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
- why would there be a reason for Levitating Pachirisu? a flying squirrel is a real thing. as for Rotom, yea, i was thinking about it, give folks a reason to have to wait until after the E4 to get him. also, i probably wont do Eeveelutions, theres no real work involved in them, just copy and paste types and stats, and give it a generic name. Drageon, Steeleon, Toxeon, etc..MAGNEDETH 23:56, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
- I don't know. I just like the idea of a pure-Electric type.--Pokencyclopedia 01:47, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
- I'm for the Flying-type Pachirisu. Why? Cause. No weaknesses are just hax, man. Tina δ♫ 02:54, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
I perfer the pure Electric type with levitate, scince Electric/Flying is basiclly reserved for Zapdos--Quick Man
21:09, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- FLYING squirrel is the way it is. i know everyone wants no weakness, but too bad. MAGNEDETH 21:14, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Separating the charts?
Why not do that, for evos and prevos? Prevos get one section, evos get another. TTEchidna
GSDS! 07:19, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
- the idea had come to me, i suppose ill do it tomorrow, its almost 3:00AM MAGNEDETH 07:25, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Drillix
How about this. Speedix could be Steel and Dark type, with Dark being the secondary type. I mean think about it, a giant metal drill that moves around on its own seems more like a dual Dark type to me. And it must learn Horn Drill of course. :P Mudkipchan 17:56, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
- i like the idea, but, if hes digging around underground, i think itd make more sence to be ground-type. btw, please tell me you have an idea for a better name, this one is killing me. MAGNEDETH 17:59, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
- True that. But Pokemon can't have three typing anyhow.... and battle-wise, he would probably get a 4x weakness to Fighting if he were Steel and Dark type. :P Mudkipchan 18:04, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
- I dunno. I always thought that Onix needed a pre-evolution. Onix is WAY to big to be an unevolved Pokémon. Satoshi Tajiri managed to avoid making a pre-evolution for Rhyhorn by giving Rhydon an evolution, and I'd hate for that to happen with Onix.Pokencyclopedia 21:21, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
- True that. But Pokemon can't have three typing anyhow.... and battle-wise, he would probably get a 4x weakness to Fighting if he were Steel and Dark type. :P Mudkipchan 18:04, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
i changed the name, thoughts? MAGNEDETH 19:25, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Mawile
Evolve The Kucheat! And don't name it Bawile. DO NOT. Or else I will harm you. REALLY. REALLY. BADLY. TTEchidna
GSDS! 07:38, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
- that would be terrible, and it does need an evolution MAGNEDETH 18:02, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
- toss me some ideas here MAGNEDETH 20:38, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
- Japanese name could be Krakcheat. English, Jaworn. TTEchidna
GSDS! 07:52, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, and don't forget: Steel/Dark plz. TTEchidna
GSDS! 07:53, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
- Japanese name could be Krakcheat. English, Jaworn. TTEchidna
- toss me some ideas here MAGNEDETH 20:38, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Why did you name the Mawile evo "Kucheat"? That's Mawile's Japanese name. You can't use that. --
ケンジ
ガール
07:19, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
TTE suggested it. However, I believe it will now be changed to Jawile. Glinn
07:41, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- I suggested merely to evolve The Kucheat.
Maw!
Hitmon-chaaaaan! TTEchidna
GSDS! 07:48, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Yes, you did indeed say evolve The Kucheat. My mistake. Glinn
07:51, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- other than the hardcore fans, no one knows Mawiles name is Kucheat. i like the name, so i figured swap the american and jap names around, though, Jawile has come up as well. MAGNEDETH 17:17, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- Same with Sonans/Wobbuffet and Sohnano/Wynaut. "That's how it is!" and "Really?" in Japan, a wobbly thing you hit and why shouldn't you in English. Doesn't prevent me from thinking they dropped the ball. Besides, Krakcheat would come from Kraken and cheat, not kuchi and cheat. If anything, Mawile would've been better having its name the same in the US. TTEchidna
GSDS! 00:17, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- So, are you suggesting that Krakcheat would be part-squid?--Pokencyclopedia 00:41, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- Same with Sonans/Wobbuffet and Sohnano/Wynaut. "That's how it is!" and "Really?" in Japan, a wobbly thing you hit and why shouldn't you in English. Doesn't prevent me from thinking they dropped the ball. Besides, Krakcheat would come from Kraken and cheat, not kuchi and cheat. If anything, Mawile would've been better having its name the same in the US. TTEchidna
- So do I, but it's better than Bawile. TTEchidna
GSDS! 02:25, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Sableye
There should be an evolution of Sableye if there's an evolution of Mawile! And it should have Wonder Guard.
Shiny Noctowl 21:30, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Didn't I already explain to you why NO Wonder Guard? Because a Dark/Ghost type Pokemon has no weakness, and one having Wonder Guard would be entirely unfair and IILEGAL in the metagame. Goodness. Mudkipchan 22:28, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Well, it wouldn't be invincible. All you would need is a pokemon with Foresight and a Fighting type move. Still, it would be hard. Random279
- i dont want to sound like a jerk, but no, its not going to happen, if it did, i would stop playing Pokemon MAGNEDETH 23:20, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
I think Foresight is completely useless in the long run, mostly because I prefer an all-out attack moveset, and why would any competetive player waste a move slot on something that's only useful against ONE type? Diachronos 16:48, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
Breloom
I think there should be an evolution of breloom, with less weaknesses. Just spitballing. --
Darth
Cookie
Monster
01:11, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
- idk, theres not much that can be done there. Breloom is a Grass/Fighting type. theres been no pokemon that gains a type, then gets rid of it. if anything, i was considering a middle evolution because Shroomish is some tiny blob with no limbs and suddenly its a full size FIGHTING type! it didnt even have arms before!! MAGNEDETH 06:17, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
How?
Thr... Thr... Throw it off a cliff!? Are you just being funny are have you gone mad?
PokeManiac102
23:30, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Plusle/Minum
Why don't they have a baby form of Plusle/Minum. It could evolve like Tyrogue. And also, they should have an evolved form, and you have to level up Plusle with a MinusCharge, and Minum with a Plus Charge Random279
- Maybe they could both evolve into the same thing? That would be a first. (like the idea of charges, they could neutralize them, further this idea of dual prevos for one evo) -Theininen 17:08, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Kecleon
I think Kecleon might get an evolved form sooner or later. Aside from the fact that it's a mere novelty Pokémon, it lacks Hyper Beam and Giga Impact. The majority of Pokémon that can use those moves are fully evolved.--Pokencyclopedia 20:56, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
- He can't learn those? Certainly something I'll look into. I was also looking into a Ditto or Smeargle evo. MAGNEDETH 23:24, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, I never realized that until I was fixing up Kecleon's article yesterday.--Pokencyclopedia 13:09, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Lunatone and Solrock
What about a pre-evolveded forms of Lunatone and Solrock, kind of like Tyrouge, who evolves into at night or day. --
Darth
Cookie
Monster
23:33, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Arcanine and Ninetails
How about Fire/Ghost type evo for Ninetales and a Fire/Dragon type evo for Arcanine? Since the two are based on the wp:Kitsune and wp:Imperial guardian lion respectivly Manga-in-a-bottle 06:47, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Skarmory
I really think Skarmory needs an evolution. It has good typing, fairly good moves, but it stats just aren't good enough. It's defense stat is high, but low compared to pokemon such as Aggron, Regirock, and Cloyster. Also, it says on it's Pokedex entrythat it can go over 180mph, but it is slower than pokemon like Magikarp and Rattatta. So, it really needs a faster evolution. Random279
I've also been thinking that Skarmory should have a prevolution.--Pokencyclopedia 21:34, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Then give it an evelution with more BA stats!--Quick Man
21:00, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- idk, it wouldnt really qualify because you can catch Skarmory in the wild MAGNEDETH 22:17, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
Dunsparce
You haven't thought of a name yet? I don't know if it is good or not but how bout Matrare?
PokeManiac102
19:00, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- whats that? mattress and rare? MAGNEDETH 19:01, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- Matte and rare.
PokeManiac102
19:02, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- Hello? Are you there? Are you dead?
PokeManiac102
19:12, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- yea, i was rearging and modding the page. as for the name, hows about "Mattare"? i think it flows better. MAGNEDETH 19:24, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- Sure. It took only an hour for me to decide between one or two "t"s anyway. It looks better without the "r" too.
PokeManiac102
19:25, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- I'd suggest the name "Mialoof", but a guy name lydario from Deviantart already made up a Dunsparce evo with that name.--Pokencyclopedia 21:31, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- Can you cite a reference? MAGNEDETH 08:23, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- I'd suggest the name "Mialoof", but a guy name lydario from Deviantart already made up a Dunsparce evo with that name.--Pokencyclopedia 21:31, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- Sure. It took only an hour for me to decide between one or two "t"s anyway. It looks better without the "r" too.
- yea, i was rearging and modding the page. as for the name, hows about "Mattare"? i think it flows better. MAGNEDETH 19:24, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- Matte and rare.
My Ideas
Lapras, Ditto, Xatu, Quilfish, Heracross, Shuckle, Corsola
Do you think Lapras should have an evolution or a prevolution?
PokeManiac102
19:37, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- Lapras'd be good for a prevo. Not evolution, as it's great as it is. Tina δ♫ 19:42, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
How bout Luvdisc or Chatot?
PokeManiac102
19:53, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- Ditto doesn't need anything, imo.
- Qwilfish is pretty weak, so I'd think that it'd get an evo.
- Everyone in competitive battling loves Heracross. I think a prevo'd be good.
- Shuckle and prevo'd be nice. GUYS WE DON'T NEED AN EVO FOR THIS THING AND GIVE IT HAX STATS END OF STORY.
- Corsola should get both. :p
- Sableye should get an evo. Something that'd look at Spiritomb and say 'Hey, he's equal to me.' instead of 'Man I wish I was that strong.'
- Zangoose and prevo, yes, Seviper and evo, yes.
- Luvdisc and Chatot should get an evo. Luvdisc does like.. nothing good, seriously. At least I could kick ass with my Chatot.
- Just my little 2 cents. Tina δ♫ 19:53, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
I was thinking either evos for Zangoose and Sevi, or Prevos for Zangoose and Viper.
PokeManiac102
19:55, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- Dammit I had like, 5 edit conflicts on this thing. e_e Tina δ♫ 19:55, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- before i go any further, id like to tell Pokemaniac102 to STOP POSTING ONE THING AT A TIME! i cant reply if i keep getting edit conflicts. MAGNEDETH 19:56, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- Oh I finished.
PokeManiac102
19:57, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- ok, i think Luvdisc shouldnt exsist in the first place MAGNEDETH 20:00, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- Are you that heartless?
PokeManiac102
20:02, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- Luvdisc is a good idea, but Chatot isn't yet. A Shedinja prevo would be good as well. Random279 20:02 , 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- Shedninja already has one.
PokeManiac102
20:05, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- Chatot could probibly use an evo, as for Shedinja, it already has one, its called Nincada MAGNEDETH 20:07, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- Shedninja already has one.
- Luvdisc is a good idea, but Chatot isn't yet. A Shedinja prevo would be good as well. Random279 20:02 , 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- Are you that heartless?
- Oh I finished.
Random
There should be a Bug/Ice type evo, or maybe a Bug/Electric. Random279 20:31, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- well, i was thinking Voltbeat and Illunice, or something to that effect. MAGNEDETH 20:35, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- I would've thought that Volbeat and Illumise would have evos that were Bug/Electric and Bug/Fire respectively.--Pokencyclopedia 21:34, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Misdreavus/Murkrow
Misdreavus and Murkrow need a pre evelution, They got weaker with their new evelutions Mismagius and Honchkrow, Repectfully. Murkow aire my favorite Flying type Pokémon and I just didn't like the fact they got weaker. Misdreavus has the best attack in Pokémon (Pain split) and is exclusive to that family without sketch/Breeding and Mismagius is just creepy, so I think that is why Misdreavus needs a pre Evelution, so it isn't as weak to that creepy excuse for a pokémon!--Quick Man
21:39, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
NO They both are already too weak.
PokeManiac102
21:41, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Mismagius makes Misdreavus usable, and Honchkrow is incredibly powerful. yea, his defence sucks, but his attack is 125!! MAGNEDETH 22:21, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
Luvdisc
Why shouldn't Luvdisc get an evo. It is nearly as pathetic as it gets.![]()