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Aloe, Lillipup

Wow 17th talk page. I know speculation is agaist the rules but saying it was never explicitly stater that Lillipup evolved is like saying that it was never stated the Drew's Roserade, Paul's Tortera and May's Venasaur evolved from their respective pre-evloved forms that belonged to the character, just because Aloe is a more miour character dose not mean we should make exceptions, consider how Herdirer knew the same attacks as Lillipup, bar Giga Impact which synbolised its power gain upon evolution, Just somthing for you to ponder. Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 23:56, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

I believe it was mentioned on Aloe's page that Cilan or Iris said something about Haderia being a seperate pokemon used to suprise rematchers--Burgundy 00:22, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
You need to take it up with however said it was a different Pokémon, not me. I thought it was the same. I just wanted the pages to be consistent. Look at Aloe's talk page and discuss there. --ケンジガール 00:28, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Protection request

Falk recently made an edit to Ash's Pikachu after I reset the text back to the neutral context, before he started the debate. It won't affect me if the debate is resolved or not, but could you please put a temporary protection, at least for autoconfirmed, on Ash's Pikachu? Thanks! --rockersk08 00:49, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Collective page for the TRio?

Do you think we need a page for Jessie, James and Meowth separate from the main Team Rocket page? They are pretty disconnected from the main organization and have a lot of history between them. J-J-M 04:25, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

I don't know. A lot of it seems to be covered between Jessie, James, and Meowth's pages. --ケンジガール 04:35, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
Mostly a collective page would help when we're referring to Jessie, James and Meowth. It's a little confusing when you link Team Rocket when it could refer to the TRio or even the organization. Typing "Jessie, James and Meowth" everytime is a little unnecessary tbh. J-J-M 04:45, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
Yeah... I guess it would be okay. --ケンジガール 04:53, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
What should it be called though? Don't know if "TRio" works. J-J-M 04:58, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
Team Rocket trio? --ケンジガール 06:22, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
Team rocket Trio? You mean Carr, Sird, and Orm, right? Or do you mean Ken, Al, and Harry? I personally don't see this plan as feasible. And also, why would you have to type out Jessie, James, and Meowth everytime? Maybe it's time we teach you about word variety. Link them the first time, think of other ways to refer to them when it is unnecessary to link them MaverickNate 06:45, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
Those groups don't go by "Team Rocket trio". The are The Three Beasts and Team Rocket Elite Trio. If it's not needed, I understand. But I don't think it would cause confusion. Especially if we put a soft redirect. --ケンジガール 07:14, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
JJM are so disjointed from the rest of the organization and do their own things most of the time, so they should have a page for themselves. J-J-M 09:36, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Okay, how about this, I make a page about it in my userspace and if it's good enough it can be moved? J-J-M 14:12, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

I don't see why not. Give it a go. --ケンジガール 22:16, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
So here's the page. It needs pictures, and the game and manga info as well but I don't really know much about that. J-J-M 15:19, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
Looking good so far. I would recommend asking Adyniz to put it on the Mainspacable pages template so that more people can see it, if you have not already done so all ready. --ケンジガール 23:01, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Zemalf

He has some magical power allowing him to edit protected pages despite him only joining today, thought I should bring attention to him Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 19:24, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Jello didn't protect the page until after the edit... --ケンジガール 19:25, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

My bad then Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 19:26, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Half-confirmed genders

When an anime Pokémon has gender that is only confirmed in the dub or via a Nintendo event, should all "it"s be changed to "he"s or "she"s? Specifically, I'm referring to this edit. --SnorlaxMonster 06:56, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

If it is only half-confirmed, yes. It should remain "it". Only when fully confirmed by the Japanese dub is it allowed to be converted to gender specific. --ケンジガール 07:37, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
In cases where it is confirmed only by the dub, should the gender in the infobox be listed as "unknown" (with a note on the gender in Trivia) or the half-confirmed gender with an asterisk? --jda95 10:46, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
Yeah. That does sound like a better idea. --ケンジガール 19:24, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
On the same note, if a gender is dub-only, should the gender not be listed on the Trainer's page? There's some inconsistency on Ash's page about his Pokémon. --rockersk08 16:35, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
No, they shouldn't. --ケンジガール 23:32, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Need some help

Since they are protected could you help with updating the name change for Darumaka on the List of Japanese Pokémon names and Chaoboo (Pokémon) which are the only ones left. If you want me to do it I will keep an eye out, though right now given the massive amount of new announcements it is less than likely due to the unconfirmed names on other sites. -Tyler53841 20:44, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

AIM

KG, can you come over for 5 mins? ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 02:44, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Looks like I've to summon you for few mins again.
Boar → Dog → Monkey → Bird → Ram, KUCHIYOSE NO JUTSU!. ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 02:38, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
Ken, please move this back to my userpage. I moved it keeping Arti's VA's blog post but apparently that's not it. It's been confirmed on 2ch that there will be a one hour special on March 17 and it'll feature TR vs TP plot. There will be a break on 24th and Gym Battle will start on March 31. Thanks and sorry for all the mess. ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 11:56, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
If you have some time then come. I'll be waiting for you at our secret spot. ♫♪エイディニズ♪♫ 04:19, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Abilities (and also Celebi)

Hey there KG. :D I was sorta wondering what the verdict is on anime Pokémon that only have one ability in-game. Well more specifically Celebi. It can only have Natural Cure in the games and I was thinking that might be what it used on Zoroark as she "died". What do you think? Or do we need to keep it "until a character flat out says its ability"? Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 02:05, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Policy is we can't do anything until it has been confirmed in some way. Even if it has only one ability. As seen in M04, Celebi has the ability to revive which is what this Celebi could have done. --ケンジガール 02:09, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
Alright then. Thanks for answering. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 02:10, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

DP Specials

Why were they moved to DP192 and DP193? --HoennMaster 04:40, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

  1. Aired in the same timeslot as the regular episodes
  2. Has the same opening, ending as the DP episodes
  3. Uses the same eye catches
  4. Japanese wiki also refers to them as DP192 and DP193
Pretty much it. --ケンジガール 04:44, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
May have been a rash decision on my part. It didn't sit well with the other admins so I moved it back. --ケンジガール 05:15, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Moves

Hey Kenji...I was wondering something. I remember in an earlier edit of Dawn's Togekiss that the Sky Attack Peck combo image was removed due to it taking up too much space. But I was just wondering...why not put it in the move box? Improvised or not, it's still an attack right? And it takes up less space if it's with the other move images Ataro 20:09, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

If it is not a in-game move, even if combined from two in-game moves, it doesn't go in the box. We don't need that "Togekiss being motherly" or "Togekiss much larger in its debut" pictures. You can get rid of one of those to make space, preferably the "large Togekiss" one as it is better suited for DP170. --ケンジガール 20:14, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Scald

Nice work on dealing with Scald even though I would edit those bad edits myself. Anyway I was think about putting an invisible note around the trivia section to help so no one who isn't aware of the consensus and is thinking of the term scalding hot for water would write down that trivia note so quickly. -Tyler53841 02:32, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

I don't think it is necessary right now. RedLuigi was the only user who was adding it so I don't think it will be a problem. If it gets added by another user, we will deal with it accordingly. --ケンジガール 02:38, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Okay, if it gets to be a problem then that measure might be necessary. -Tyler53841 02:40, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Guys, I really didn't mean to do that. And you guys talking behind my back doesn't help. If you saw my talk page, you would see that I took 30 minutes of my time to kindly respond to this issue, and you guys haven't responded back since. That little trivia about it being a Poison-type move or a Water-type move was there for at least 7 hours (I kept track), and then I saw that it was removed. My first instinct was to add it back, but it kept getting deleted over and over. I thought some random troll was doing all this until I noticed I got a message. It said that I shouldn't be adding something again and again and got a warning. So how does that happen if that trivia was there for more than 7 hours? Why wait on me to do that? Its like you guys were luring me to do that. And I only joined this Wiki a month ago to help tribue a little.

I can't tell if you're mad at me or not, but please don't assume I did that on purpose. The way you guys typed those responces to me and deleted one of my posts on Scald's talk page made me feel like you guys want to ban me. After all, the good must die young, right? [/scarcasm]

I'm very sorry for all that I done. I didn't mean to vandalize that page. I feel really, really bad now, and I promise not to do that again. I didn't even know that stuff wasn't allowed for triva on moves, abilities, etc.

Thanks for reading. I hope to hear back soon. :(

RedLuigi 21:44, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Zoroark

Would like to see you intervene before anything to serious happens. Have you watch the 13th movie yet? After watching the scenes twice, it is not confirmed that Zoroark died at all, but people are adding that into the articles. A conversation has already started here. Could you possibly tell them that so they don't re-add it....again. --HoennMaster 20:25, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

It didn't look to me like she died. Not like Latios, Lucario, and Darkrai. She just seemed on the brink of death like Giratina and Arceus. --ケンジガール 00:07, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Semi-Protect

Could you please Semi-Protect the Player character page? This is the second time this month I had to revert the edits for the unconfirmed English names of the Player characters for Black and White. -Tyler53841 04:14, 10 February 2011 (UTC)


Do we really need this?

Now that the page for her turtwig is gone, this template is pointless, should we delete it? Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 18:42, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Thegreekweegee

A Sawk, perhaps? You know who of. Thanks.--Muk-a-matic-Maketh the Muk go round... 04:19, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Prima

Hi Kenji-Girl. Can you look at the picture of Prima's Dewgong and tell me if it's using Aurora Beam or Ice Beam? A user keeps insisting it's Ice beam. Littlmiget123 20:07, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

That's a definite Aurora Beam. Ice Beam always forms a ball and then shoots out what looks like lightning bolts in the anime. This is just a straight line, and I think I can see colors in it. Maybe it knows Ice Beam as well, but that's not what it is using in that picture. --ケンジガール 21:39, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
That screenshot is the only thing that shows her Dewgong. It's a montage of Prima battling the Trainers. Thanks for the input. ^^ Littlmiget123 22:21, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

VAs

I saw you mention it on a page, but have you been able to see the credits for BW001 and BW002 yet? Everyone is saying Khristine Hvam for Juniper but she sounds like Emily Jenness too me. Sadly I can't check the credits since I don't have CN. --HoennMaster 04:55, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

No, I have not seen the credits. Usually the only way to see the credits is when CN streams the episodes online because they flash them really fast during broadcast and only list the main voice actors. But right now, CN.com is still on The Brockster Is In! so it may be a while before we see these episodes. Truthfully, I don't hear Emily Jenness at all with Professor Juniper. And I don't remember what Khristine Hvam sounds like. --ケンジガール 05:08, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
I hope you don't mind if I cut it, but I happened to record the episodes earlier today, meaning I can pause and rewind them at will. I'll be happy to look at the credits and see if I see anything. I should be able to do this soon. (I don't have access to the television at this moment, but I should within the next few hours.) :) Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 05:14, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
If you could see something, that would be great. But as I said, they usually omit some of the actors during normal broadcast. Maybe you can catch Iris's, but I don't know about Juniper. I would check myself but the quality of my VCR recorded shows is terrible. --ケンジガール 05:19, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Okay so I was finally able to check the credits, and while they are very hard to see, I could tell what they said if I looked hard enough. I've taken a photograph as evidence and provided translations. Look who happens to be second from the top...I'll leave it up to you to decide what to do. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 09:46, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
I see. Thanks for showing me this. I shall use this as proof in edit summaries. --ケンジガール 09:50, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
No problem. I feel I should also mention that those are the credits for Enter Iris and Axew! if it makes much difference in character significance in terms of the credits ordering. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 09:56, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Thanks! Were you able to see guest stars or did they only list main characters? No I wonder why Kayzie Rogers is still doing there. --HoennMaster 17:08, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
She voices Axew. --ケンジガール 21:14, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

My Trivia

"[Your trivia has] been less than satisfactory, I hate to tell you. Much of it is unnotable or incorrect and I had to revert most of your edits."

Would you care to tell me specifically what I've said that's incorrect and an explanation of how it is? And you're violating Bulbapedia's policy by removing what I've written on a page without contacting me first.

"The Pink Butterfree is no way shape or form an error. It existed way before gender differences and shiny Pokémon were created. They animators can't foretell the future."

Yes, the Pink Butterfree is an error. Wild-type Butterfree are not pink--just check out the article on Butterfree here on Bulbapedia. The Pink Butterfree is an aberration from the wild-type; therefore, it is an error. Do you not agree?

What do you mean the Pink Butterfree existed way before gender differences and shiny Pokemon? In Episode 21 (Bye Bye Butterfree), Ash's Butterfree was male, and the Pink Butterfree was female. That's a gender difference, is it not? You're the one who's writing incorrect information.

"They animators?" Put whatever you type into a spellcheck before you post it on the site. Once again, you're violating Bulbapedia's rule about having good spelling and grammar.

"And when you see a piece of trivia or an error that is incorrect and is stated in the article, just remove it. Don't put "Actually the first piece of trivia is incorrect" directly in the article as that is very unprofessional. If you want so say something is incorrect, please go to the talk page of the article."

What's unprofessional is removing something that's incorrect rather than writing a correction for it, especially when you haven't checked to see whether what you're removing is really correct or not. That would be what you're doing. And I never said, "Actually the first piece of trivia is incorrect." Don't quote my saying something I never said.

"If you want so say something is incorrect, please go to the talk page of the article."

You should learn to revise what you write if you make mistakes in English so often. This is another violation of Bulbapedia's "Good English" rule.

"One more thing, please be sure you put trivia in the correct article. Duplica and Lt. Surge's nicknames for Ash belong in their articles, not the episode articles."

Who are you to say where trivia belongs. The nicknames I've mentioned were only brought up in the particular episodes that Lt. Surge and Duplica were in. Therefore, the trivia deserves to stay in the articles pertaining to the episodes. If you want to put it in Lt. Surge and Duplica's articles, then go ahead. Actually, it would be a good idea to put it in both the personal articles and the episode articles.

You should really treat your new members better. - unsigned comment from ShalashaskaADV (talkcontribs)

And you're violating Bulbapedia's policy by removing what I've written on a page without contacting me first.
See, when you edit, there's this notice near the "Save page" button that says "Please note that all contributions to Bulbapedia may be edited, altered, or removed by other contributors." So no, I do not have to "get your permission" to remove it first. And just so you know, I am the head of Project Anime and it is my duty to have quality control over all articles that are covered by it. That includes episode articles.
Yes, the Pink Butterfree is an error. Wild-type Butterfree are not pink--just check out the article on Butterfree here on Bulbapedia. The Pink Butterfree is an aberration from the wild-type; therefore, it is an error. Do you not agree?
What do you mean the Pink Butterfree existed way before gender differences and shiny Pokemon? In Episode 21 (Bye Bye Butterfree), Ash's Butterfree was male, and the Pink Butterfree was female. That's a gender difference, is it not? You're the one who's writing incorrect information.
Games =/= Anime. I'm really not sure what you mean by "Wild-type" but I know that normal Butterfree are white. But everyone in the episode specifically noted that this Butterfree was different. An error is when they color Ash's hat wrong or something. When it is being used as a plot device, it is far from being an error.
When I said "gender differences", I meant this. I am fully aware that genders existed in the anime since the beginning. But genders in games did not exist until Generation II and differences did not exist until Generation IV.
"They animators?" Put whatever you type into a spellcheck before you post it on the site. Once again, you're violating Bulbapedia's rule about having good spelling and grammar.
That really applies only to the articles. Not talk pages. I try to watch what I say but I do have learning disabilities and can sometimes miss minor errors like those. I apologize. But hey, thanks for reminding me.
What's unprofessional is removing something that's incorrect rather than writing a correction for it, especially when you haven't checked to see whether what you're removing is really correct or not. That would be what you're doing. And I never said, "Actually the first piece of trivia is incorrect." Don't quote my saying something I never said.
I think you really misunderstood me. I was only giving an example, not quoting you. Please look here. You wrote that the first error is not really an error. It would have been better if you just (A. Removed it or (B. Consulted the talk page.
You should learn to revise what you write if you make mistakes in English so often. This is another violation of Bulbapedia's "Good English" rule.
lol Okay, cheap shot there. Especially since I was just trying to help you become a better user. No need to point out my grammar mistakes twice.
Who are you to say where trivia belongs. The nicknames I've mentioned were only brought up in the particular episodes that Lt. Surge and Duplica were in. Therefore, the trivia deserves to stay in the articles pertaining to the episodes. If you want to put it in Lt. Surge and Duplica's articles, then go ahead. Actually, it would be a good idea to put it in both the personal articles and the episode articles
Ahem, Project Anime leader again. That's who I am. Those would look much better on Lt. Surge's and Duplica's pages. It's more about their character than about the episode. It doesn't need to be on both.
You should really treat your new members better.
Ditto to you too, pal ;) Except with out the "new" part. It works both ways, ya know. You are reacting way too defensively towards someone trying to help you understand how Bulbapedia works. Please don't take it so personally. I use to submit not so great trivia too when I first started. Without the admins correcting me, I might still be doing it. It's called constructive criticism. Please learn from it, not bash the one that gave it to you. --ケンジガール 02:22, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry if I did take it too personally, but how do you expect me to react when someone out of the blue tells me that what I've said is not true and calls me unprofessional and deletes what I've written without giving an explanation? Perhaps both of us are at fault here. So, you're the Project Anime leader? It would have been nice if you introduced yourself first before saying all that. Now, as for what you've written, here's my reply:

"So no, I do not have to 'get your permission' to remove it first. And just so you know, I am the head of Project Anime and it is my duty to have quality control over all articles that are covered by it. That includes episode articles."

I never said you needed to get my permission. One of the rules that Carmen posted on my page (a "ground rule") says that instead of having an edit-war, we should talk about what's wrong first before you make any changes. Now, you said most of the trivia facts I wrote were wrong, but you weren't specific on which ones. I'm still awaiting your reply on this. One more thing, if you quote someone inside a quote, you use ' instead of ". I'm not taking cheap shots here; I'm just trying to help you be better at writing.

"But genders in games did not exist until Generation II and differences did not exist until Generation IV."

This is most certainly not true. Nidoran existed in Generation I, and it had different evolution paths, depending whether it was male or female.

"I'm really not sure what you mean by 'Wild-type' but I know that normal Butterfree are white. But everyone in the episode specifically noted that this Butterfree was different. An error is when they color Ash's hat wrong or something. When it is being used as a plot device, it is far from being an error."

Sorry about the jargon. "Wild-type" is what biologists call a specimen that's natural (i.e. what you find in the wild) as opposed to one that's mutated into something else (one that's unnatural). Anyway, I understand now what you mean by error. I'll keep it in mind the next time I make an edit. That being said, I stand by what I said that the Pink Butterfree being pink is an error because it was irrelevant to the plot. What was relevant was that the Pink Butterfree was a female that Ash's Butterfree was interested in. Consequently, it became a reason for Ash to let his Butterfree go. The fact that the Pink Butterfree was pink had nothing to do with the plot--it was just a tool the storywriters used to help the viewers (us) distinguish the Butterfrees of interest between all the others that were in the episode. I've explained my reasoning, so feel free to delete my edit now if you'd like.

"See, when you edit, there's this notice near the 'Save page' button that says 'Please note that all contributions to Bulbapedia may be edited, altered, or removed by other contributors.' So no, I do not have to 'get your permission' to remove it first. And just so you know, I am the head of Project Anime and it is my duty to have quality control over all articles that are covered by it. That includes episode articles."

Just because you are someone of high status here on Bulbapedia doesn't give you the right to act like a jerk and be discourteous to people who are trying to add more information to the site. Like I said before, you should've messaged me before you made revisions to what I wrote. I didn't say you had to, but the ground rules did (see the top of my discussion page). It's in this way you have acted unprofessionally.

"I use to submit not so great trivia too when I first started. Without the admins correcting me, I might still be doing it. It's called constructive criticism"

Again I'm coming back to this: What trivia have I written that isn't correct? Constructive critism is not what you gave; you made revisions/deletions to my posts without saying what was wrong. So far, you've only brought up the Pink Butterfree, which is one edit I've made. It's not "most" of what I've written.

"You wrote that the first error is not really an error. It would have been better if you just (A. Removed it or (B. Consulted the talk page"

I'll leave it to you to make the revisions. If what you said was true, and I'm wrong about almost everything I've said, it would be a bad thing if I deleted something that was possibly correct, right?

"Those would look much better on Lt. Surge's and Duplica's pages. It's more about their character than about the episode. It doesn't need to be on both."

I think the nicknames impact the episodes a great deal because they help define the relationship Ash has with the character calling him that. Seeing as how Duplica and Lt. Surge don't appear in any other episodes (as far as I know), then the nicknames are unique to the episodes as well as the characters using them. Thus, it should be on both the personal articles and the episode articles.

To wrap it up, I'd just like to ask that anyone who isn't on the administration or involved with this conversation not get involved? I would appreciate it. --ShalashaskaADV 03:52, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry if I did take it too personally, but how do you expect me to react when someone out of the blue tells me that what I've said is not true and calls me unprofessional and deletes what I've written without giving an explanation? Perhaps both of us are at fault here. So, you're the Project Anime leader? It would have been nice if you introduced yourself first before saying all that.
I really don't have the time to explain everything. But I'll try to do it in the future. But you really flipped about a simple word of advice. What you could have done was ask me politely what you did wrong and what my status is instead of saying how wrong I am for not using proper grammar.
I never said you needed to get my permission.
This is what you said in your first comment: "And you're violating Bulbapedia's policy by removing what I've written on a page without contacting me first." So... you never said that, huh?
"One of the rules that Carmen posted on my page (a "ground rule") says that instead of having an edit-war, we should talk about what's wrong first before you make any changes.
One revert is far from being an edit war. Some of them I explained why I reverted in the edit summary.
Now, you said most of the trivia facts I wrote were wrong, but you weren't specific on which ones. I'm still awaiting your reply on this.
See your talk page about this.
One more thing, if you quote someone inside a quote, you use ' instead of ". I'm not taking cheap shots here; I'm just trying to help you be better at writing.
'' is not the same as ". I was using '' to italicize your comment so that it is easier to see. And yeah, you kind a were when you said "You should learn to revise what you write if you make mistakes in English so often. This is another violation of Bulbapedia's "Good English" rule." when you were responding to a comment that had nothing to do with grammar.
This is most certainly not true. Nidoran existed in Generation I, and it had different evolution paths, depending whether it was male or female.
That is pretty much the only excpetion. I was going to mention that but forgot to. Gender difference did not exist for Butterfree at the time and it also didn't have a gender in Gen I games.
That being said, I stand by what I said that the Pink Butterfree being pink is an error because it was irrelevant to the plot.
It cannot be an error if it was made purposely by the editors and noted by the characters. And it was part of the plot as that's how they were able to pick it out of the swarm. Otherwise they would have been looking aimlessly for it.
Just because you are someone of high status here on Bulbapedia doesn't give you the right to act like a jerk and be discourteous to people who are trying to add more information to the site.
Now I am finding it hard to believe that you are sincere about your apology. My personal belief, I was never being discourteous to you. All I did was tell you I removed your trivia and to try and improve it. If anything, you were the one that was discourteous to me.
Like I said before, you should've messaged me before you made revisions to what I wrote. I didn't say you had to, but the ground rules did (see the top of my discussion page). It's in this way you have acted unprofessionally.
I don't have to message you about anything. Read what is stated near the "Save page" button again. And again, you are contradicting yourself. "Oh you don't have to but it's the rules" What? Either I have to or I don't.
Again I'm coming back to this: What trivia have I written that isn't correct? Constructive critism is not what you gave; you made revisions/deletions to my posts without saying what was wrong. So far, you've only brought up the Pink Butterfree, which is one edit I've made. It's not "most" of what I've written.
I explained in some of my edit summaries. What I gave you on your page was constructive critism. It just wasn't that detailed. If you wanted more detail, you should have simply asked me.
I'll leave it to you to make the revisions. If what you said was true, and I'm wrong about almost everything I've said, it would be a bad thing if I deleted something that was possibly correct, right?
But you don't make a note of it on the page itself. I explained that to you already. You go to the talk page. Every page has a talk page. Mentioning on the page itself is just unappealing to look at.
I think the nicknames impact the episodes a great deal because they help define the relationship Ash has with the character calling him that. Seeing as how Duplica and Lt. Surge don't appear in any other episodes (as far as I know), then the nicknames are unique to the episodes as well as the characters using them. Thus, it should be on both the personal articles and the episode articles.
Well I don't think it impacts it in the least. And FYI, Duplica does appear in another episode. Duplica isn't the only character who calls Ash "Ashy-boy" anyway. Gary calls him that too.
So yeah, I don't believe you are truly sorry. You are still under the impression that this is mostly my fault for not explaining every little thing you did wrong when you clearly overreacted. And it isn't just me who is saying it. CoolPikachu! and Carmenstar97 also agree. But I will say that I am sorry for not giving you all the details on what was wrong. At the time, I was busy performing multiple tasks both online and off. I'm going to leave a message on your talk about what was wrong as I don't want to clog up my talk anymore. --ケンジガール 05:20, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

"What you could have done was ask me politely what you did wrong and what my status is instead of saying how wrong I am for not using proper grammar."

What you could have done was to tell me politely that the edits I wrote were incorrect and explained to me in what way they were. The reason I pointed out your bad grammar was to emphasize that you were not following your own guidelines. As a leader in administration, this is something you should do to set a good example for the other users here on Bulbapedia.

"'I never said you needed to get my permission.' This is what you said in your first comment: "And you're violating Bulbapedia's policy by removing what I've written on a page without contacting me first." So... you never said that, huh?"

That's right, I never said you needed my permission. When I said, "... without contacting me first," I was referring to the ground rule that you should message me instead of deleting what I've written without doing so. Again, you should follow the guidelines you set for the rest of the community to set a good example.

"One revert is far from being an edit war. Some of them I explained why I reverted in the edit summary."

You're right, one revert is far from being an edit war. However, it wasn't just one revert; you made revisions on most of the edits I posted, as you've said. In addition, it would've become an edit war had I not known someone was deleting or revising my edits. I looked at some of your other discussion topics, and I saw a similar situation happened with RedLuigi. To prevent pointless edit wars like this in the future, I believe you should take the necessary precautions; that is, politely say who you are and what's wrong with the posts, and let the user take the incorrect posts down himself or herself.

"It cannot be an error if it was made purposely by the editors and noted by the characters. And it was part of the plot as that's how they were able to pick it out of the swarm. Otherwise they would have been looking aimlessly for it."

I see your reasoning, and I agree with you now. It's just a problem with semantics that this little debate with Pink Butterfree happened: I noted the Pink Butterfree as an error because it's inconsistent with what we know what color Butterfree should be. I'm glad we cleared this up.

"Now I am finding it hard to believe that you are sincere about your apology. My personal belief, I was never being discourteous to you. All I did was tell you I removed your trivia and to try and improve it. If anything, you were the one that was discourteous to me."

I really am sorry I overreacted and was discourteous. On the Internet it's very difficult to convey emotions, since we only have text. You'll just have to take my word for it. But you were discourteous, as I said before, since you took action without telling me who you were and why you made the changes you made. If you weren't being discourteous, I wouldn't be making a big deal about it now.

"'One more thing, if you quote someone inside a quote, you use ' instead of ". I'm not taking cheap shots here; I'm just trying to help you be better at writing.' is not the same as ". I was using to italicize your comment so that it is easier to see. And yeah, you kind a were when you said "You should learn to revise what you write if you make mistakes in English so often. This is another violation of Bulbapedia's "Good English" rule." when you were responding to a comment that had nothing to do with grammar."

Fine, I was taking a cheap shot when I was noting your bad grammar in my first post because I was upset, but I wasn't the second time. The fact that I'm not pointing out mistakes in your grammar anymore should prove I'm not upset anymore.

"That is pretty much the only excpetion. I was going to mention that but forgot to. Gender difference did not exist for Butterfree at the time and it also didn't have a gender in Gen I games."

Yes, Nidoran is an exception, but it's obviously irrelevant to what we're talking about now. No worries. But the article I edited was on the episode which did feature Butterfree with different genders. The whole plot was building up to the point where Butterfree left Ash in order to mate with the Pink Butterfree. It wouldn't make any sense to think they had the same gender. If this were an article on the game, then yes, I agree you would be absolutely right in saying there's no sexual difference between Butterfree in Generation I.

"I don't have to message you about anything. Read what is stated near the "Save page" button again. And again, you are contradicting yourself. "Oh you don't have to but it's the rules" What? Either I have to or I don't."

No, I'm not contradicting myself. I said you should follow the rules because you're a leader, and you should set a good example for the rest of the community to follow. There are things you have to do, don't have to do, should do, and shouldn't do. What you should or shouldn't do falls under a category called "ethics," and as a leader, I expect you to act according to the guidelines you set for everyone else (I'm referring to the ground rules) and not be "above the law." Erasing things without acting properly will just lead to edit wars as it did with RedLuigi and as it could have with me. You should take precautions in handling these situations as I explained before.

"But you don't make a note of it on the page itself. I explained that to you already. You go to the talk page. Every page has a talk page. Mentioning on the page itself is just unappealing to look at."

I didn't know every page had a talk page. So, when should I make a correction on the main page?

"So yeah, I don't believe you are truly sorry. You are still under the impression that this is mostly my fault for not explaining every little thing you did wrong when you clearly overreacted."

I'm not under the impression that this is mostly your fault. I said at the beginning of my last post on your discussion that I believe we're both at fault, and I wanted to imply by saying that that we both have something to learn from this on how we should act on Bulbapedia. Not to be rude, but I don't care who other people believe to be wrong or right in a situation that concerns only you and me. For all I know, they're siding with you because you're the senior administrator and I'm just a random user, and they're not considering my point of view as well as yours in making their choice.

I understand this is clogging up your discussion page, but please leave it up until we're done talking so we can refer back to what we've said. I'll go look at your comments on my page and reply now on my page. I'm pretty busy during the week with college work, so I won't be able to write so much during that time. I will on weekends, though. --ShalashaskaADV 08:22, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Request

Sorry to bother you again. I know I promised whenever I will leave for good but I can not help myself and I see an error. But this time, I assure you that this is the last because I made the turn. Could you please replace in the article of Ash’s Pikachu ‘was permanent’ by ‘is permanent’. This time I'm sure I could keep my promise. Thank you and goodbye to all of users. Doaud 12:37, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Story Question

I didn't know if this was notable or not so I decided to ask you before I jump the gun but, is an article about the Lost Silver story notable enough to make an article about? Pokedex493 22:04, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Article Talk Page Archive

Are only mods allowed to archive talk pages for articles? Because with all the pictures and templates I think Ash's talk page should be archived following this week's episode when this "confusion" finally ends. --HoennMaster 00:23, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

A Spambot

You gave a spambot a non-infi-block. Could you fix this?--Muk-a-matic-Maketh the Muk go round... 04:17, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Elmdei.--Muk-a-matic-Maketh the Muk go round... 04:20, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Now that I think about I do recall that during the deletion of the spam users and pages which I helped post delete tags with. That User was given a 1 year suspension.-Tyler53841 04:22, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
The one he is talking about is a spambot that I accidentally gave 1 year to instead of infinite. Thanks for telling me. --ケンジガール 04:24, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

PerryRadica's edits

You might want to consider hiding that former users edits on the Lance page since they were no good. -Tyler53841 05:15, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Discussion

Uh, if it wouldn't be a bother to you, next time you're online could I have a chat with you about a CharacterDex/Anime related thingy/issue please. It would be much obliged. Thank you --P S Yライダー 22:10, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Reshiram anime debute

At the beggining of BW001, Reshiram appears along side Zekrom but unlike Zekrom, it dose not actualy feature in the episode. Dose that qualify it to be on the List of Pokémon by anime debut page? Also their are some disscusions going on, on this pages talk page which will be swayed by your Echonic word as project leader, Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 23:14, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

It counts. It's just a cameo. --ケンジガール 01:54, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Trouble

That user ShalashaskaADV is at it again with contributing only to his talk page. I don't want to send another message since considering that this user isn't learning and still posting messages to his talk page. I leave it to you or another administrator to take the appropriate action. -Tyler53841 07:27, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Tyler, the conversation's over, so I won't be replying to any of the administrators' messages on my discussion page anymore. You make me feel like a delinquent by saying "that user," "is at it again," and "isn't learning." Remember the code of conduct and be nice. Later. --ShalashaskaADV 07:55, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Peace

Hi there, Kenji-Girl. I hope in spite of everything that's happened, we can move past it and be friends instead of keeping any hard feelings. Even though I was disappointed that some of my trivia was wrong, I was impressed that you pointed out to me what was wrong and why. I relearned some things about Pokémon that I'd forgotten since it's been ages since I last watched all of season 1. Would it be all right if I asked you some questions about it if I think of any?

You can call me Edward, by the way. Peace ^^\/ --ShalashaskaADV 07:50, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

It's fine. Ask if you ever need anything. --ケンジガール 07:59, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
Well, there's one thing that's been bothering me since I first noticed it. Who's that girl with reddish hair in the season 1 intro--I mean the one who Pikachu runs past right before jumping up? - unsigned comment from ShalashaskaADV (talkcontribs)
She isn't a character. Just some person who appears in the opening Ataro 08:23, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
Oh, okay. I kinda figured that since she didn't look familiar. Thank you for replying, Ataro. --ShalashaskaADV 08:29, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
Kenji-Girl, do you know if there's an article on the site that tells how to raise a Pokémon so it has the highest stats? --ShalashaskaADV 18:42, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Gian9456

Is still changing the genders, even after the final warning. Pikiwyn talk 19:06, 20 February 2011 (UTC)


Galvantula

What would you call this move, it is not listed on any page now, Pin Missile or Poison Sting? Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 01:12, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

It's not using any move. It's firing its "stingy hairs", according to the dex. --ケンジガール 01:54, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
OK?, haha, cool thanks Kenji Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 23:03, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Tobias and Karen

Thought I should ask first. While he was still being shadowed in the early Sinnoh League episodes a good portion of the fandom (English at least) assumed that Takuto was Karen. Is this noteworthy for his article? --HoennMaster 06:10, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Well I never once expected that nor heard of it... I think that's stretching it a bit. --ケンジガール 11:18, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Nimbasa City

Okay, I acknowledge you like things original and pretty much 'your' way but I have recently edited the Nimbasa City acticle which you keep undoing, I said It is argued Castelia is larger due to the constant respawnage, but you contintously change, wikis motto is "anyone can edit" but it seems "anyone can edit as long as Kenji-girl has her own way" is rather more suited in this matter! Please allow me to write this information, as it is important people grasp the knowledge and understanding of the matter --Italay90 15:38, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Look dude, I was only following what everyone agreed on. I really don't care about anything else really. So no, it is not "Kenji-girl's way". If anything, you're making it into "Italy90's way".
Nimbasa has more people but Castelia is larger in size. You can't count the walking people as they come and go as they please. No need to blow a gasket over it... Oh, BTW, new discussions always go on the bottom. --ケンジガール 16:21, 22 February 2011 (UTC)


Personal image

Are there any rules about uploading them to the archives, (All it is some dream world art put together that I want on my userpage) I ask you because you have that awsome sonic heros picture Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 20:59, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

You are allowed to have 3 personal images in the archives. --ケンジガール 22:31, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Tthank you Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 23:03, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Uhhh...

You didn't reply to my last question. Is the story called Lost Silver notable? Pokedex493 01:55, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

I have no idea what that is... --ケンジガール 02:06, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
Really? It was a story about Pokémon Silver, and these weird things happen. Here's the URL. [1] - unsigned comment from Pokedex493 (talkcontribs)
Stories told by fans? No, I don't think so. --ケンジガール 02:15, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
Okay. Pokedex493 02:17, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Trom

Hey Kenji-Girl! Has anyone heard from Trom the past few days? I've been waiting for a PM back from him on the forums, but I have yet to hear back. I just connected the two things, but there was a MAJOR quake there the other day... Thanks. –MasterKenobi 02:48, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

I don't know. I haven't talked to anyone about it. --ケンジガール 03:11, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
He's not dead or hurt or anything, just so you know. He was on a few days ago, but he said he was postponing internet activity for a while cause of the quake. D: --P S Yライダー 03:16, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
Alright, thanks you two. As long as I have reassurance he's alive. It's getting /pretty/ bad over there. —MasterKenobi 03:19, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
I'm okay. The earthquake was about 300km (190 miles) north of where I am, and it was 5km below the largest city in NZ's South Island. Unfortunately, the nature of a small country is everyone knows someone who knows someone who is no longer with us. I'm just on reduced activity at the moment. I didn't expect my absence to go noticed like this; thanks for your concern. —darklordtrom 05:48, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Two questions for my lovely progect leader

1) Could you take a look at the anime picture I uploaded for Scald, I converted it to png but it still dose not feel right, 2) Should it be noted anywhere that wile TR don't blast of anymore, Pokémon now do, Sandile, Pendra, Wariviale? Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 00:08, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

The image is kind of low quality. We usually don't take screenshots from viral videos. But it is okay for now. And Pokémon have blasted off in the past, even before Team Rocket stopped doing it. --ケンジガール 00:13, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
OKy doke Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 00:15, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
I saw there was no pic for Scald, so I thought I'd find out how to make png and upload them, I got it from youtube originally, where are we sopposed to get them from? Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 00:22, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Hey KG, do you have a minute?

Can you check out this discussion here? Your input would be appreciated. Please and thank you. --ジェダイの騎士デジタルテレビ 01:01, 25 February 2011 (UTC)