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User talk:Golbat

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Please know and use the Manual of style. Also, be sure to always categorize new pages. --PAK Man Talk 00:31, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

When linking to Pokémon articles, please use the {{P}} link template. For example, use {{p|Venusaur}} instead of [[Venusaur]]. Otherwise, you might accidentally link to a disambiguation page. Thank you. --PAK Man Talk 19:29, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Just like Pokémon, moves have their own link template: {{M}}. Use it the same way as you would use the {{P}} template. --PAK Man Talk 17:27, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Hey, remember earlier when I asked you to categorize new pages? You should really do that. Also, try not to add articles that are just a sentence long. And for reference, the interwiki link for Wikipedia is [[wp:ARTICLE_NAME|ARTICLE NAME]] --PAK Man Talk 05:59, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

The lyrics are taken from a booklet which came with the CD, I believe. Please don't change them by ear or whatever you're doing. --Pie ~ 04:37, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Slowpoke article

Ummm, dude, what are you trying to do? You keep editing back and forth, adding and deleting the same sentence... --ElectAbuzzzz 15:31, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Response: Well I keep adding that sentence in the wrong place.--Golbat 15:36, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Your edits seem to sometimes change foreign characters into question marks. Do you know why this is happening? If so, is there any way you can prevent it from happening...? --Pie ~?? 03:59, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Response: Uhhh... What?

Do you see here, how you changed the Japanese characters of Nurse Joy's voice actors into question marks? That's not the only time you've done that. --Pie ~?? 17:35, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Response: Well I don't mean to do it.

It's probably because you don't have data for Japanese characters installed on your computer, hmm. -Happy Mask Man 20:19, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

The problem is that it happens only in certain instances, and not to all the characters in an article, it seems. Plus, even if his system didn't display the characters, it shouldn't replace them, I think... not unless he's copying and pasting text into another program which doesn't support the characters. That's how we get a lot of those damn "smart" quotes into our articles: people editing in Word, which automatically changes them... but that's why I asked if he knew why it was happening. --Pie ~?? 21:13, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Response: ??????

And that would be why my question went unanswered. Okay, let me put this in simpler terms. When you're editing in this editor, there's no reason why characters would be replaced with question marks even if your computer doesn't support the characters, because you're not editing the data. Note that the music notes in my signature aren't turning into question marks; those are special characters too, though not foreign characters.
I want to know if, when doing edits like for the Nurse Joy article, you did something that would edit the data even though you weren't editing that part. That seems the most likely to me. Did you copy the text into a program like Microsoft Word, and edit it there? --Pie ~?? 21:25, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Response: no. I have no idea what Microsoft world is.

Microsoft Word. The text editing program.
Look, you just did SOMETHING differently this time, because like I said would happen, all the music notes were replaced with question marks. What did you do differently? --Pie ~?? 21:35, 29 July

2007 (UTC)

Response: The only thing I did differnt is type { { p | like PAK Man told me too. *these were thogether _________________^*

Yeah, right. No, really, what did you do differently between this edit and this edit? --Pie ~?? 03:24, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Response: I did nothing different other than {p|} from []

Look at the links I posted, now. You did not use the {{p}} template in the second one and yet all the music notes converted. I want a more detailed description of what you are specifically doing to edit these pages, and I want it now. --Pie ~ 18:15, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Response: Well I click edit, type Response, and then answer to you or Happy Mask Man.

First off, by the way? There's no need to type "Response". And second, something is still not adding up, because it's still only at isolated points, and there is no connection between those points and usage of the template. Is there any way you do it differently, sometimes? --Pie ~ 19:30, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Response: Well I know there's no need for 'Response' but I like doing it. And to the second. Response is: No. I like to edit but leave the Japanese stuff alone.

I'm aware. But something's changing; this issue really does smack of what happens when a user copies and pastes the text somewhere else to edit it, and then copies and pastes it back into the text editor, particularly since it only happens on occasion here in your talk page with the music notes in my signature. There's nothing that {{p}} could do to cause that, unless you have to do something special to get the "{" character. --Pie ~ 19:45, 31

July 2007 (UTC)

Response: Yeah I got a response, uhhhhh, what?♪ <__k i just put a music note in here watch it Pie see what it does and if it changes

No, it's unchanged. Look, forget it. Just use the "Show changes" button to check ahead of time and see if you're replacing special characters, and if you are, try and copy and paste them back in so I don't have to. --Pie ~ 20:00, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Response: Ok. But the only good thing about all of this long detecive work and pasting is that you're closer to bulbabot right?

Actually, no. No, I'm not. Only edits in the main namespace are counted, not user talk pages. Don't give more of a headache than I already have. --Pie ~ 17:39, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Response: What do you mean?

Response: How do you type those letters like pie did?

If you mean the Japanese characters, your computer has to have support for them. What operating system is your computer running? -Happy Mask Man 20:28, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Response: Yeah I got a response, uh, what???

You know, like Windows XP and Mac OS... -Happy Mask Man 20:36, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Response: OHHHH that jazz well I run on windows ME.

Crappiest OS ever, by my experience. TTEchidna 06:26, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Pokémon colors

Yes, I know, they might appear to be different than what it says, but in the games, they're considered to be one color by the Pokédex, and usually that has nothing to do with their real color. TTEchidna 18:52, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

A word of advice: when an administrator reverts one of your edits, it's probably a good idea to keep it like that.
And about the colors: read what TTE said above me. --PAK Man Talk 15:59, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Response: Listen admin or not I wont let ANYONE replace my CORRECT edits with false ones. even if I have to type it 5000 times, I won't back down on the truth.

Then you will be blocked from editing. We will not let ANYONE replace the CORRECT game data with their opinion. --Pie ~ 16:12, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Then I guess you will try scare me into submission.

Scare you into submission? It's in the game data, go on and search Pokémon by their color in RSE. Golbat's purple according to the Pokédex, despite how it appears to actually be. TTEchidna 17:17, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Can I comment on this issue? It's highly possible that in Japan, saying that Golbat is purple is seen as correct. Studies show that cultures can have remarkably different perceptions of color -- in fact, the Japanese really had to invent new words to describe colors like 'green' and 'pink', which had previously been clumped with blues and reds, respectively. Golbat could be interpreted as "Indigo" rather than a straight out purple or blue. Plus, we are going on the game data here. If we start allowing people to just put fanon opinions into articles it'd just be a random mess. Manga-in-a-bottle

Yeah, I've heard of that, that green lights over there are actually a lot more blue than they are here. Heck, even our own, English-speaking culture didn't have a name for orange until the fruit was found; we just called it yellored. And I'm not kidding around here. Heck, indigo's only mentioned in ROYGBIV because Newton wanted everything to be perfect 7's. TTEchidna 04:20, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

If I may comment on this issue, if you go to link title and search for golbat in their PicDex (that's what they call it), the first Golbat were purple. They were changed later, but the Pokédex never was.--Machamp ion 15:02, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Just a friendly message from Mod

While you are stuck in your little cool-down period, I'd like you to think about why I blocked you. It was not because we are trying to beat all potential editors into submission. However, given your attitude, refusal to discuss the issue with other editors, and general obstruction of work, I saw it necessary to flex my powers and show you that no, we aren't going to put up with you if you're only here to give us headaches. --Pie ~ 06:46, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Mad

I'm still mad at you. MissingNo Master 21:23, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Why are you mad at him?--Machamp ion 22:26, 31 August 2007 (UTC)