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Gold Silver Ethan Time Capsule.png This is a talk page archive.

It contains old discussions of topics relating to the user. Please do not add or remove any content from it.

Current talk page is moved to archives whenever I feel like my TP is too big .
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Thank you, and have a good time editing here! Glinn Mgraw 04:20, 16 April 2008 (UTC)


Brock means attacks from the sky, not flying type attacks. MathijsP

Oh yeah he did........ Looked like I wasn't paying attention. Force Fire

Stuff to remember

A few things to remember when making your edits.

  • Use proper spelling and grammar. Even in trivia sections, you should write complete sentences that end in a period.
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You've done a good job contributing so far. Just be sure you pay attention to the Manual of style when you do it in the future. --Martonimos((Talk)) 05:48, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Ok, Thanks for pointing that out, I usually forget to put periods at the end of a sentence.

Just a reminder on this. Also, its and it's are different. Its = belonging to it. It's = it is. Don't confuse them, all right? And remember the periods at the end of sentences. TTEchidna 09:20, 19 April 2008 (UTC)


Make sure that, when making new pages, you categorize them. TTEchidna 05:55, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

"Why should there be a comma"?

It makes it proper. On Dai's page, it said: "Dai, Katsumi, and Maki each own the final form of one Sinnoh starter Pokémon" Dai Katsumi and Maki are 3 different things, which 3 makes a list. For lists to be proper they have to have a [,] comma and an [and]. Like this: Bulbasaur[,] Charmander[,] [and] Squirtle ... But this is not the case when there are 2 (or even 1) Like this: Skitty and Glameow ...

That's why I put the comma there. That was an english lesson from RPP, that'll be $50. (joke)

Shouldn't it be "Dai, Katsumi and Maki each own the final form of one Sinnoh starter Pokémon"? 折り紙ガイ - 離す貢献 10:51, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Yes it should be "Dai, Maki and Katsumi... Blahblahblah". No need for commas there. Force Fire 10:53, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
No, it should not be "Dai, Maki and Katsumi." It's a long running dispute between pretty much everybody, but it simply sounds better if there is a comma after "Maki." Say it to yourself a few times and you'll agree. -ニョロトノ666 23:12, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Speaking of commas

Make sure that you put a space after them. TTEchidna 03:16, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

No, no, no

Please, when you're editing numerous things on a page, do it all at once, so as not to clog up the Recent Changes. If you need to check something, use the preview button. Glinn Mgraw 10:25, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry about that, I do use the preview button. It's just that when I save the page, I always forget one thing. So yeah, sorry for clogging the recent changes. Force Fire

And episode titles...

Make sure to italicize them. Pokémon! I Choose You!, for example, not just plain Pokémon! I Choose You!. TTEchidna 11:44, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Japanese name redirects

just wanted to say, thankyou for helping with the japanese name redirects - i started it earlier and discovered how boring, slow, and tedious it was. oh, and did you spot the mistake in the last sentence. 折り紙ガイ - 離す貢献 10:57, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

No problem, Willing to help anytime. What mistake? If it was the pidgeotto one, I fixed it. Force Fire 10:59, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
.....boring, slow, and tedious it was. the comma error we were talking about a few mins ago lol. 折り紙ガイ - 離す貢献 11:00, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Japanese Name Redirects

Please do not have a Japanese name for a Pokémon with a disambig page redirect to the species page. Those redirects redirect to disambiguation pages for a reason. --Shiningpikablu252 13:55, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

It could've been easier is you just replied to the above section, instead of making a new one. Force Fire 22:53, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
You're creating quite a mess of double redirects. I made the same mistake when I first attempted to make Japanese name redirects, but check to see if typing in "Chansey" takes you to a disambiguation page. If so, redirect the Japanese name to that disambig page. Understand?  :D --ニョロトノ666 23:22, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Oh I see where you're getting to......... Force Fire 23:24, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Great. --ニョロトノ666 23:25, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

When there's no article...

And the link's red, it doesn't mean you remove the link. It just means that no one's gotten around to making it yet. TTEchidna 23:52, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Evolved Anime Pokémon

If an evolved Pokémon belonging to a character is never shown or mentioned as having been in a previous form, never assume that it has been in that previous form. In the case of Paul's Weavile, it was never seen as a Sneasel and Paul never mentioned it ever being a Sneasel. If the possibility of Paul catching it directly as a Weavile exists, it should not be assumed that it was ever a Sneasel under Paul's control, no matter how likely it may be. Another example is Cruise, Ritchie's Pupitar--it was never seen as a Larvitar and never mentioned as ever being a Larvitar under Ritchie's control.

Now, if Ritchie were to return and show off a Leafeon, then we can firmly state that it was once an Eevee since Ritchie mentioned having an Eevee in Oaknapped. Another example is Gary's Blastoise, which was later revealed to be the Squirtle he got from his grandfather on day one, even though it was never seen in motion until it was a Blastoise.

Simply put, if there's doubt, leave it out. --Shiningpikablu252 20:37, 15 May 2008 (UTC)


If you have a problem with the alternative sprites, talk to Shiningpikablu252! He supports me!--Taviource 17:40, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry about the conflict (look above). here:
492.png 157.png This user is a good friend.
--Taviource 01:17, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Aerodactyl Article

You don't need it for anything. The image placed there, with or without the comment, makes the article appear more interesting and certainly more informative. Also that image is not linked to anything else in the Bulbagarden archives, and it adds an interesting aspect to the trivia section which by itself can be rather dull. -Lord Hyren 23:30, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

It would be useless.... Its nothing special... --Force Fire 04:00, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Sig test

Force Fire (Talk)

8 November 2008,

Force Fire

1 December 2008,

Force Fire talk


Goodday Force Fire, thank you for showing me the rules of Bulbapedia, I will follow the rules, but I have a slight problem which I'm quite bothered with. Since I'd like to personalize my Userpage, I would like to edit it. Since I don't got any rights for it, I have no clue what to do. Anyhow I would like to edit it. Is there a way to arrange this? Kind Regards Kilik 10:59, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Well.... I could tell you now, it's gonna be a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong wait.... So my advice is: have a little patience then the userpage edits will be running in no time. --Force Fire 11:46, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Aww... =( blasted.. oh well, nothing more I can do then wait heh? Hopefully it won't be a loooooooooong wait, but that it would running in no time ;) Thanks for your explaination. Kilik 11:55, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Willing to help.. --Force Fire 11:57, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Well, how do I help then.. =) Kilik 12:01, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Also one thing I want to tell you. I notice you created this section by Editing the Sig test section. To make a new section, just click that little Plus at the top in between History and Edit Page. --Force Fire 12:05, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Yes I know what it does, but I'm not used to that section, anyhow I will pay attention to that from now. Kilik 12:08, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Anyhow how can I help =) Kilik 12:29, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
You can do anything you want, From fixing Typos to creating an Article. --Force Fire 12:30, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Ah.. well doing that standard when I see a typo and stuff.. but I can't do anything about the userpages? Kilik 13:41, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Nope... --Force Fire 09:11, 24 June 2008 (UTC)


you got it. if the ban is lifted, and allows tags, i owe ya one. -- MAGNEDETH 01:46, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Anime dex entries

Don't put them on the Pokémon pages yet, put them on Theryguy512/Anime Dex Project until we decide what we want to do with them. MoldyOrange 02:37, 20 July 2008 (UTC)


I'm not sure if you remember me; I'm the guy who you went against about the custom sprites. Let's put all that behind us and start new. But by the way, custom sprites are going great. Look here: [[1]]--Tavisource 03:44, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

LoL yeah I remember you, and I must say your sprites are even awesome than before. --Force Fire 03:46, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
But of course, not all the sprites are created by me. I had it up under my name before..until it got popular, then we moved it to an actual project page. You can see who created what, in the coding. It's hidden. But most of them are mine.--Tavisource 03:47, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Evo Stuff

As I told the other kid, theres a certain way for those evo things. I got it covered. -- MAGNEDETH 03:11, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

IMO I think it doesn't matter, unless it's given the right evolution description. --Force Fire 03:13, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
Well, that's what we're trying to fix. Some pages just sort of have random stuff. As a wiki, we aim for maximum facts with the most efficiency. So, I've got a uniform for every page for evolutions. Don't worry about. It'll get done. -- MAGNEDETH 03:17, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
So you're saying my description is wrong? And Okay, I'll leave it to you. --Force Fire 03:24, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
Not so much "wrong" as it wasn't "right". If you follow me. You had the facts, but, they weren't arranged properly. I havnt gotten that bit of detail nailed down yet, so, you're better off doing something else. No offense. -- MAGNEDETH 03:26, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
Alright, Alright I get you. --Force Fire 03:33, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
This is a great example if you'd like to see. -- MAGNEDETH 03:37, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. But I'll just leave it to you. --Force Fire 03:41, 1 November 2008 (UTC)


Slow down on editing the User: namespace. There are only three userspace edits allowed per day, and you have gone over the limit. Editing your userpage too much will lead to it being locked again. Instead of making multiple small edits, why not instead use the preview button (Alt + Shift + P) to check your edits before saving the page? Thank you. ----PAK Man Talk 06:20, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Templates, To whom it may concern

I made those templates just incase someone creates an article on the gym leaders Pokémon, I haven't added their Pokémon Because I'm not sure what will they have on their party. --Force Fire 11:59, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Yeah well I deleted them. There is no need for them right now. Wait until they debut in the anime before you make them again. Byron should debut in several more weeks. --ケンジガール 12:23, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
Right ;) --Force Fire 12:24, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing my screw-up with the trivia on The Princess and the Togepi and A Togepi Mirage

I didn't realize I put that trivia without changing the number of episodes. Thanks for helping. I went and fixed the trivia so it included the actual episode numbers. Thanks again Monkeyjb1988 02:47, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

It's my pleasure, Also Never copy a certain trivia to another (unless you can't remember the whole thing, then you can C+P. Make sure you edit your trivia to make it related to the article.--Force Fire 02:53, 9 November 2008 (UTC)


Slow down on editing the User: namespace. There are only three userspace edits allowed per day, and you have gone over the limit. Editing your userpage too much will lead to it being locked again. Instead of making multiple small edits, why not instead use the preview button (Alt + Shift + P) to check your edits before saving the page? Thank you. --- Kogoro | Talk to me | 05:57, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Missing Sprites

yes, i know, the sprites arent there. its in the process. when we upload them, they will fill in. the new party tables use the extended file format. - Spr_gg_###.png - so, yea.. -- MAGNEDETH 03:50, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

And my relpy to you is

The manga are the stinkin Pokémon Adventures/Special books there is a page on the round #s LOOK IT UP. (This was a message from your friendly --Coolピカチュウ! 10:52, 27 November 2008 (UTC))

So who's Talk Page are we Spamming up Replying to now? Mine? Ok, I know what they are, I don't know any Specials. --Force Fire 10:55, 27 November 2008 (UTC)


Maybe you should stop making those number redirects. Now that there are only three variables, you might want to consult an admin beofre continuing.--RexRacer -talk 06:31, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Laoris and CoolPikachu! were able to do them, So why Can't I? --Force Fire 06:33, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Look above. There are only three variables now. There are no more berries, DP numbers, AG numbers, Johto Pokedex, Hoenn Pokedex, Sinnoh Pokedex, Fiore Browser, TMs, HMs, I could go on and on...--RexRacer -talk 06:36, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Wait I just remember, Theres Manga!, But still, I reckon wait until 267, Thats about... Oh I don't know.... about 16 Numbers left, That's not much is it, (The Almia Browser end in 267), But yet again the Anime ends at 274 which makes it 2 Variables left after 267, which means 7 more, So lets just say 274 is the Finish line. Then I'll end this Number redirects.Happy or Sad? --Force Fire 06:43, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
Yes there's stillmanga lefttttttttttttttttttt...........--Coolピカチュウ! 10:31, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
Check after 010ish-before 110 night it's 2:35 AM--Coolピカチュウ! 10:35, 30 November 2008 (UTC)


hey yer sorry but my MysteryHeff was on. - unsigned comment from Jebus4eva (talkcontribs)

Yeah....--Force Fire talk 10:41, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Hey yer sorry forgot abit of a rush lol --Jebus4eva 10:44, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

If you couldn't guess

I copied the base of the template from here. Oops. — THE TROM — 07:30, 16 December 2008 (UTC)


Slow down on editing the User: namespace. There are only three userspace edits allowed per day, and you have gone over the limit. Editing your userpage too much will lead to it being locked again. Instead of making multiple small edits, why not instead use the preview button (Alt + Shift + P) to check your edits before saving the page? Thank you. --Force Fire talk 11:17, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Number redirects

Mind if I start helping you with making those?--Diby 12:27, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Sure, Would love some help, Just stop at 328 though.--Force Fire talk 12:29, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Fine. Let's start then.--Diby 12:31, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Why don't you start at 328, and work your way backwords.. if you can though.--Force Fire talk 12:36, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
I'll do that. You are too fast for me.--Diby 12:39, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
It's over. Why not 329 and on?--Diby 13:14, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Language Translation

could I translate all of there to tagalog plz --Bakunawa 07:19, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Sorry? Translate what? --Force Fire talk 07:41, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

To make understand among us filipino fan because some of us are illiterate --Bakunawa 11:33, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

*sigh* seriously kids these days are having trouble doing things theirselves..... anyway! That might cause a huge problem as you have to translate all of the articles just to put one translation. So I'd say don't do it....--Force Fire talk 11:41, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
ok force fire Bakunawa 10:18, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Aussie Rules Footy

Hey I didn't know you were from Australia, and play aussie rules, I'm from Australia aswell and I play aussie rules footy, and I'm the same age as you. BTW you got any tips on what a Pokémon game fanatic can edit?--MysteryHeff? TALK 08:15, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Howdy doo I congratulate you. Hey that rhymed!......... Anyway, If you want to make good edits, stay cool, sit in the sidelines, check every edit someone makes... That's what I do...--Force Fire talk 09:24, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

OK thanks for the ideas. Oh and BTW nice rhyming you should write a book on rhymes, lol.--MysteryHeff? TALK 04:58, 24 December 2008 (UTC)


Why exactly do you "pity" me? Chocolate (Merry Christmas!) 03:18 12/23/2008

I pity the fool, who questions me.....Because I do, end of conversation...--Force Fire talk 03:21, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
Why? Seriously, don't hate me for nothing... Chocolate (Merry Christmas!) 03:21 12/23/2008
I have nothing against you, It was sarcasm --Force Fire talk 03:22, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
Plus, pity does not equal hate. MaverickNate 03:23, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
That may be so, but it still doesn't exactly make me that happy... Chocolate (Merry Christmas!) 03:24 12/23/2008

Tell me

Who mixes Japanese & English names like that? --Maxim 08:26, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Who knows, A Japanese kid, Only know the english name of Satoshi, but not english name for a Pokémon species.... Trust me, We already had Ash's Mukubird and Ash's Mukkuru...--Force Fire talk 08:28, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
I agree, its pointless to make redirects like that. I understand Satoshi's Lizardon not Ash's Lizardon.

And a Japanese kid would definitely know Ash's Japanese name. Jmath 08:31, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Well looks like that japanese kid also understands english and knows Satoshi's english names.... BTW I've stopped doing that...--Force Fire talk 08:32, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
uhmm, didn't you say you stopped doing it? Nah, doesn't matter. Jmath 08:49, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
I did, The english-Japanese...--Force Fire talk 08:50, 23 December 2008 (UTC)


This is your second warning. Please refrain from editing the User: namespace too rapidly, or you will lose privileges. --Force Fire talk 09:24, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Alright stop right now, You have until tommorrow to edit again.--Force Fire talk 13:33, 24 December 2008 (UTC)


Can the stub templates and the notice templates co-exist in the same page?--Diby 06:01, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

If the Article is a paragraph or less, then yes, But if it's an article with a whole pack of text, then that is not considered a stub.--Force Fire talk 06:03, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
That isn't what he meant, and that isn't how you get rid of stubs. But, I'd say yes they can. MaverickNate 06:06, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
Usually a Stub is an article containing insufficient amount of information. But yeah I've no idea what to do about that sort of problem.--Force Fire talk 06:10, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
1st of all, I'm not a "she". Coming to the topic, I think TTE probably once said that they can't stay in the same page.--Diby 06:12, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
Diby does sound feminine *Gets hit* Ok, you're a boy. But yeah, TTE probably knows what to do with this problem.--Force Fire talk 06:14, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
Diby =/= my full name. Only the 1st four letters... Anyways, here is the link: [2]--Diby 06:17, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
Well, then no. Don't do it. And sorry. MaverickNate 06:19, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
TTE did not once say that. TTE said on that page that you remove a stub tag if an article isn't a stub. TTEchidna 06:49, 26 December 2008 (UTC)


This is your final warning. Failure to comply with the limit on editing the User: namespace will cause you to lose the ability to edit it. --Force Fire talk 15:19, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Link Templates

Please use link templates when linking to stuff such as Pokémon names, attacks, and the like. For example, {{p|Lopunny}} instead of just [[Lopunny]]. This is so you don't unintentionally link to a disambiguation page.

For a full crash course on link templates, look at the list of link templates. --Marton(I'm Jewish)imos 03:14, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Huh? that wasn't me who put [[Lopunny]] in, I was just fixing the party tables. The other dude put it in.--Force Fire talk 03:18, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Right you are. Apologies. --Marton(I'm Jewish)imos 03:44, 28 December 2008 (UTC)


We don't have templates for them because we don't have any articles on any of their Pokémon yet. Jmath 14:24, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Oh...ok, How 'bout L.t Surge, We already have an article about his Raichu. Or is that too small for a template.--Force Fire talk 14:27, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Nah, its only one Pokémon. It'll be too small. Jmath 14:32, 28 December 2008 (UTC)