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Talk:Submission (move)

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Can someone confirm if this can hit a Pokémon using fly, Dig, Bounce etc. Not sure if it was just a blip in my game or me imagining things (it was 2AM in the morning) but my Staraptor used fly then the opponent use submission and it hit whilst it was "Up high" PhantomCX 08:03, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

It can. TTEchidna 23:55, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Yup. Hit me while flying. Unssure of dig etc. Yleron 09:52, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

so then why is it not in the article? Slowking770 06:26, 13 August 2010 (UTC)slowking770

Sounds like you encountered the (in)famous No Guard Machamp. SoItBegins (talk) 07:14, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Technically...

"Notably, Submission can only be learned by Generation I Pokémon in all generations, except Generation II, where Cyndaquil can learn it as an egg move."

Generation I Pokémon with Generation II evos could learn it as its un-evolved form in I, and then trade to II to evolve.. although only Politoed and Blissey can do this. I'm not sure how to word this on the article, though, so... HALP! D: →Tinā 02:09, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

In all generations, all Pokémon that learn Submission naturally are from a Generation I evolutionary family, with the sole exception of Cyndaquil. In Generation II, other Pokémon such as Blissey may learn this move, but only if they are traded forward with the Time Capsule prior to evolution. Howzat? —darklordtrom 05:35, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Signature Move?

In Generation I, the only Pokemon who can learn this move via level up are Machop and its evolutions. Would that not make it a signature move, at least prior to Generation II?--Black Yin Zekrom 06:31, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

I don't think so, because of the TM distribution. —darklordtrom 10:37, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Substitute Recoil

In Gen VI, will there still be no recoil on this move if it breaks a substitute? SoItBegins (talk) 07:14, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Just tested in my copy of X, and there was recoil damage after it broke the substitute. Will note it. Berrenta (talk) 21:48, 24 September 2014 (UTC)