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Sky Form Image?

Posted by 2/4chan apparantly. --JennyRogue

...ew. It's pretty much just skinnier with longer limbs. Like when you hack Pikachu in Brawl to have Ganondorf's moves.--Loveはドコ? (talk contribs) 01:08, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
I can't see the image because i'm at school but i saw a picture of it before i left home this morning (I think there the same picture so yeah), too be honest, i actually like it (: Sky form = Cool. Normal form = Cute. Well, the sky form looks sorta bad-ass too me actually (: Takoto タコト| サソデイ = 愛 07:44, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Congratulations! Your Shaymin evolved into some Eevee thingy. TTEchidna 08:31, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
xD Takoto タコト| サソデイ = 愛 09:11, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
It looks.......... Ok..... *Shoots Ken Sugimori*, But it's not that bad. --Force Fire 09:30, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
WHAT? Just as I was going against this 'Sky Form'...Posted by the Θρtιmαtum♏Talk|Links09:44 23 May 2008
Its not to bad. Leafeon with more leaves and a flower and more white. yea not bad although I want to see what the sprite will be.--lord mada 15:26, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Looks Lisa-Frank like. Or like some Mary-Sue's pet. Ugh. I don't think I like this form one bit. :| Tina 16:23, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
I think it's beautiful. you all probably didn't like it cause it changed from cute to mature and older-lookingPM102 17:40, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Of course, since I'm the stereotypical girl who only likes "ZOMG ADORABLE! ^____________^;" things and always makes her fanfiction characters start out with Eevee and Shaymin. Yeah, kill me for having my opinion. :| Tina 18:24, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm not a big judger IN A NEGATIVE WAY like SOME PEOPLE  :)PM102 18:58, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
I think it's still cute.^__^ PL12 19:13, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
oo a girl that's different, that's cool :DPM102 19:14, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
It looks like a goat with wings.......C is for Cookie 19:16, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
How can you saw that???!!! It's adorable!!!!! PL12 19:30, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

i wish i had a flying goat...Garrison12795

Wow It looks Like Shaymin Bred With Leafeon. I dont get it hows it Sky Form/e. I doesnt look like it can fly, but who knows because Ekans Can swim!!!David Aipom

Well duh snakes can swim. It has wings, but not exactly the aerodymanics to flyPM102 20:22, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

They look like leafs and i didnt expect all snakes to swim.David Aipom

What do you think the wings are supposed to look like for a pure grass-type? and yes all snakes can swimPM102 20:31, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
It's pretty obvious that this Shaymin is not pure Grass-type. It's Grass/Flying much like Tropius but Tropius' wings DO look like wings. hfc2X 21:05, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Hey, flyon and giratina have wings and are not of the flying type. If Shaymin does change forme, this will be the first time a Pokémon's type would be changed (excluding Arceus, but the whole point of Arceus's different formes is to have different types)PM102 21:15, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
  • You forgot that Castform also changes its form and it's type.
  • Flygon has Levitate because it can't have 3 types (Dragon/Ground/Flying).
  • We don't know if the Origin Forme will have a different ability.
With that in mind it's still possible that Shaymin will be part Flying type, as it's name is "Sky Form(e)". If it ain't Flying type, then it will have Levitate as ability. If not, the name won't be justifying why is it different than the Shaymin we all know. hfc2X 21:49, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
You know, it's Sky Forme, not Flying Forme. Just because the sky is up in the air doesn't mean it has anything to do with flying-types. Flygon has wings, and can fly, and it's a part ground type. The type can be completely unpredictablePM102 21:53, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm just saying that Giratina has wings, not flying type. Flygon too, and it's a ground type, yet it has wings. Castform change is forme is basically because of for the type-change, similar to ArceusPM102 21:55, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
No Pokémon that live in the sky is not part Flying or has levitate as Ability. I know you think of Giratina, but he lives in the reverse world where there's no sky nor ground. I think it's better to wait what does Platinum tell us (or at least the Giratina's movie). hfc2X 22:00, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
I wasn't thinking of Giratina, I'm thinking of Flygon. LOOK, I just think that Shaymin won't change type. Therefore I think it will have Levitate. HEY I HAVE NEVER PLAYED A MAIN SERIES POKéMON GAME IN MY LIFEPM102 22:08, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't see why you try to make me feel stupid, I've never told ya it won't have levitate. I already said that ALL Pokémon, excluding Giratina, that can fly are part Flying-type OR have Levitate as ability. I get your point that Flygon is Ground/Dragon and has wings, but it still flies and has Levitate. I know that maybe Shaymin will have Levitate and I already said that. And finally, if I'm a new user here that doesn't mean that I'm stupid or I know nothing. I did not offend you so you don't offend me, right? hfc2X 22:20, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Look @ the tail! It could be used as a propeller!--KukiTalk 22:14, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

You do all realize that this is fake, right? [1] --ケンジガール 01:24, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

We hadn't seen the news so NO! But who is covering this over @ Bulbanews?--KukiTalk 01:47, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

You guys do realize giratina can learn fly? Atomix26 14:51, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
also go to [2] I saw the website in an ad for the 11 movie! Atomix26 16:18, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
also [3] and [4] Atomix26 16:31, 19 June 2008 (UTC) I consider to have proved the sky form and I want kudos!

????

UHM...Am i the only person who sees something a bit WRONG with that image? 0___0 Cos its coming up as porn on my computer... Not that i don't mind porn but still...wtf? Takoto タコト| サソデイ = 愛 10:42, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, wait, let me see. Could be a virus. Does anything else turn up as porn? click on the image that appears when you click the Arceus. Posted by the Θρtιmαtum♏Talk|Links10:58 25 May 2008
Nothing else is coming up as porn :\ Or coming up as anything it isn't/shouldn't be |: Takoto タコト| サソデイ = 愛 11:01, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Damn. I'm scarred for life. Someone tell me why I keep running into porn on Bulbapedia? Posted by the Θρtιmαtum♏Talk|Links11:03 25 May 2008
I checked the history and even tried to cut'n'paste on the link...the pic is not coming up as porn for me. Maybe someone switched it back? - Cassius335 12:00, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

PK Does It Again

Its Fake. Read This:http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml David aipom

that just says that particular image is fake, and a sky form(e) could still be in existance (or beta) OrigamiGuy-Talk-Contribs-Mudkipz 10:38, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah I no, I hope its real and that it looks like this picture because i love its tail. David aipom

OMG David aipom are you that dumb. PK made it it is fake. It is not real. ~Crystal~Lucario~

I NO ITS FAKE. I meant the Sky Forme. I just hope it looks like that! David aipom

You spelled know wrong. And I hope that it looks like a slightly altered version of that abovePM102 13:12, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
I don't like having a fool made out of me we have all been had--lord mada 16:07, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Heh. PK's fakes are annoyingly good. Hope the real Sky Form(e) looks that good. - Cassius335 16:19, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. And the dude responsible congratulated Bulbanews on not jumping on this story... doesn't that make you guys feel warm and fuzzy? --Martonimos((Talk)) 19:32, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
I think this is funny LOL xD hfc2X 22:13, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
I knew it. (A 'flying' Regigigas form was also reported. I BET it's fake!) I mean, hedgehogs can't change shape, right? Posted by the Θρtιmαtum♏Talk|Links08:03 25 May 2008
Nope. Of course, neither can ghost-dragons. OH, WAIT. --Martonimos((Talk)) 09:53, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Dragons were based on Serpents. Origine Forme lookse like ae serpente. Posted by the Θρtιmαtum♏Talk|Links10:02 25 May 2008

shaymin's alternate form??

well hello i'm new but i found this link that someone made an alternate form of shaymin to fool people so take a look at this


plus some news from serebii & from the forums in serebii

however this shaymin sky forme thing could be a massive hoax as serebii said so if you know it, you might as well a look at this also Harith.DS 10:14, 25 May 2008 (UTC)Harith.DS

Debated above. It already has been considered fake. Posted by the Θρtιmαtum♏Talk|Links10:19 25 May 2008
The picture was a fake, but the fact that a sky form exists is true. Shiny Noctowl 12:05, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Is likely to be truePM102 13:12, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
I don't see why you love to assume, Shiny Noctowl. For now, as no OFFICIAL evidence is provided, we have to consider it fake. Although the Flying Regigigas idea was terrible too. It's Da Θρtιmαtum♏Talk|Links05:49 26 May 2008 05:49, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

It's nice that Shaymin has a Sky Form, though I fear what Regigigas may look like in its alternate form... BlueJirachi 23:06, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Another possible form for Shaymin

this is an image of what look like some kind of Shaymin form. it was originally a small image so it is pixelated it looks like it has marijuana on its head? found on http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml --lord mada 15:04, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Is that really Shaymin's alternate form? O_o BlueJirachi 15:31, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

We don't know yet but it looks abit like an Eevee evolution crossed with a Snover.Davidaipom 15:33, 6 June 2008 (UTC)♂

Chances are that I'm jumping to conclusions, but could that be a Fifth Gen? (Because it looks nothing like Shaymin unless there's a better picture of that Pokémon, and if it has green eyes, THEN it's Shaymin.) BlueJirachi 15:38, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

It doesn't look like a Shymin to me...--Taviource 15:42, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
looks angry, whatever he, she, or it is. OrigamiGuy-Talk-Contribs-Mudkipz 15:45, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I repeat the question: Could that be a new Pokémon? BlueJirachi 15:47, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

It possibly is. It looks NOTHING like any Shaymin.--Taviource 15:48, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Not "nothing". --Johans 17:34, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

And now, question two: if that really is a new Pokémon, does it mean Game Freak still has a few ideas up its sleeve? BlueJirachi 16:14, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh! Not just a few. They have a lot! They still have many, many game version titles in their trademark!--Taviource 16:20, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Is it possible they'll reach 1000? BlueJirachi 16:22, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

This is NOT a New Pokémon! They have not even revealed the entire Generation IV, what would make them to start the fifth Generation? There's not even a scheduled successor for the DS. Like it or not, IT'S SHAYMIN. - D-Wheel 16:25, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
The Pokemon company is more than likely to keep on going. They are getting so much money, why would they stop? Am I right?--Taviource 16:28, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

-__- I'm not going to go there... Let's hope an administrator comes by and see what he (or she) says about this. BlueJirachi 16:32, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Just because they are admins, that doesn't mean they'll know what it is...THey'll just give their own opinion which is no different than our's.--Taviource 16:36, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

In that case, we're sitting Psyduck... -__- BlueJirachi 16:40, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

At the unpredicatability rate we're going, that "thing" (if real) will probably be on Brock's team by the 11th movie. Granted, odds are better for the current teams of all of the main characters save Pikachu and Meowth having reached their final evolutionary forms by that point in time than that mystery creature ending up on Brock's team...--Shiningpikablu252 16:45, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
That still doesn't explain what it is.--Taviource 16:53, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I doubt it's Shaymin somewhat, since Shaymin's head is connected to it's body without a neck to seperate. Gywall 16:55, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I agree, but if it is a Shaymin, it is a different form of it, which would explain why it has a neck. And is that a rose on its back?--Taviource 16:58, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I think you might be on to something. If only they had a better picture! BlueJirachi 17:07, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

DOes anyone have a program where they can blow up the picture without losing any resolution?--Taviource 17:10, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
I was Zooming into the picture and pixelating the picture as I went to take a closer look. Now I KNOW 90% that it is NOT a Shaymin! It has Yellow years and two huge antlers. Could it be the pre-evolutional form of Stantler?--Taviource 17:28, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

WHAAAAAAAAAAT?! A new Pokémon?! BlueJirachi 17:32, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

And the thing that looks like a rose appears to be its TAIL. IT HAS CHRISTMAS COLORS!!!It all makes sense!--Taviource 17:35, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

By the way, Platinum is coming out this fall in Japan. (The successor to Diamond and Pearl.)BlueJirachi 17:37, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, not surprising. I knew about it even before CoroCoro released it. THis Pokemon MUST be a Gen V!--Taviource 17:39, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Platinum is not Gen V. Besides, it looks like Leafeon with a way wrong color scheme. It's clear another artist drew those Pokémon. Pikacku even looks off... ~$aturn¥oshi THE VOICES 18:06, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Mother of Palkia! I can't believe this! BlueJirachi 17:59, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

We know Platinum is not Gen V. BlueJirachi was just mentioning it...And BlueJirachi, You gotta believe it, cause this is reality!--Taviource 18:12, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

(Jaw hangs open) This is just like Munchlax in Destiny Deoxys! BlueJirachi 18:15, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Since this isn't Shaymin, we're moving this Pokemon's talk page to mine.--Taviource 18:19, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

And here's this sticker that was found. img080607.jpg This is looking a lot more legit than the other disaster. Toastypk 07:50, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

And no, it is not the Munchlax. Please, people. Deoxys was known far and wide in that exact movie. Arceus? He's too busy killing whatever you idiots made up. For the last time, IT IS NOT REAL SO STOP BITCHING ABOUT THIS 'CUP'. It's the Θρtιmαtum♏Talk|Links08:03 7 Jun 2008


more yet evidence.however unconfirmed source for this image of ShaymiN --lord mada 11:32, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

The CUP is not fake, but I think this sticker is. hfc2X 15:24, 7 June 2008 (UTC)


OK we can't deny it now. The first image was posted On a Japanese Blog blue skY obtained images of some badges set for release at the end of the month to promote the 11th movie. The second image is a reconstruction done by PoKeSaFaRi who I'm sure we all thank very much. --lord mada 09:30, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

  • frowns* Why does it have wings on only one side? - Cassius335 11:42, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
I'm sure will see when the film is released and we see it in flight --lord mada 11:54, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
So can we finally add this to Shaymin's page? I'd do it myself, but of course the article is locked preventing info from being added to it, except by a few people. Also someone on deviantart made a really neat sky form sprite, I'm going to see what he thinks of bulbapedia using it. Toastypk 17:59, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

well it was confirmed on serebii that this is a confirmed sky forme of shaymin and it is grass/flying

Sky Forme is a fake

Not sure if any of you guys have seen this page, but it was all a hoax. Sky Forme and all.

Hoax History NSFW. Well, one image is, but the rest of the site you might not enjoy.

Good news is that that might be a new Poke'mon on the cup.

That version of the Sky Forme is fake, yes, but as far as the cup goes, no, I don't think it's some Gen V Pokémon. TTEchidna 01:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
New Generation=New console. We don't even have a new console (DS LITE IS NOT COUNTED. IT FUNCTIONS EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE ORIGNAL DS) It's the Θρtιmαtum♏Talk|Links07:58 7 Jun 2008
The unknown Pokémon shown on the cup is Sky Forme Shaymin. The cup image was posted on an official web site and subsequently removed. There is a trademark registered for both "Sky Forme" and "Land Forme", and as of now, the original Shaymin is officially known as Land Forme. Sky Forme's announcement is imminent, but due to an error, we've already seen a glimpse of it on said cup.
The latest image is most likely real, as well. If nothing more, it gives us a better idea of what Sky Forme looks like in the previous image. Anyone who thinks this is a new Pokémon is fooling themselves. Unown Lord 08:54, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
So there is a Sky Forme...Hmm, I never thought it was an official site. Is it? It's the Θρtιmαtum♏Talk|Links09:02 7 Jun 2008
It is. Here is a screenshot of the page that was available to be viewed yesterday, only to be brought down since then. Unown Lord 09:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for sharing your wisdom with me. Now...put it on Shaymin's page? It's the Θρtιmαtum♏Talk|Links09:19 7 Jun 2008
I have added a trivia paragraph explaining the meaning of "Land Forme" and "Sky Forme". The images should be dealt by Bulbanews for the time being. Unown Lord 10:54, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
You may wish to reword that paragraph. It reads like speculation. - Cassius335 12:52, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
I don't see how it does. The facts are stated without confusing the present with the future. --Unown Lord 07:13, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Have another look at the 'it seems evident' bit. It just screams 'this is an opinion'. - Cassius335 11:40, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

It has green eyes. Shaymin has green eyes. BlueJirachi 13:43, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I see you gave in --lord mada 14:15, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I didn't mean that. I just pointed it out. But is that really a rose on its back, because now I'm all screwed up. BlueJirachi 14:18, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I meant Unown Lord gave in not you. I'm not really sure if it is a rose or wings or whatever it is but we will see one the film comes out won't we. --lord mada 14:43, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh. If it is wings, then those are the oddest-looking wings I've ever seen.BlueJirachi 14:45, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

tropius --lord mada 15:40, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Then wouldn't that make Shaymin a Grass-Flying Pokémon? BlueJirachi 15:44, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

No what I'm saying is tropius' wings are odd-looking too --lord mada 15:46, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
It might, but that'd be very unusual. It might be Grass-type with Levitate ability, which would be more reasonable. Gywall 15:46, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I think it will just be a grass type with a different forme, same ability and a slightly different move set and the forme will return to land forme when traded with d/p but if they change the ability it could cause problems for D/P but changing the move set wont be a problem for the previous games to handle --lord mada 15:54, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Have you had Deoxys battles in Gen III? They're totally safe despite Deoxys has totally different base stats in every game (only the sprites are a bit annoying). I think this won't be the exception. How do you know? Maybe the game engine has been developed to ensure compatibility even if the same Pokémon has a different ability in another version of the game (or even different type combination). hfc2X 22:13, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

If there was a sprite for sky forme in D/P we would know. Like we know about Arceus' ??? forme it would be in D/P game data in the game data. OK I think I'm possibly wrong about the ability --lord mada 22:43, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Have you ever considered it is just like Deoxys? There are different forms depending on which version the Pokémon is in. Giritina will probably go through this. As will the "supposed" Sky Forme of Shaymin.GJ 23:08, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I've considered it now and I agree --lord mada 23:09, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

So can we finally unlock this?

There is so much confirmed information I (and I'm sure others) want to add, but the article is locked. This isn't a rumor anymore.

-Pictures of Sky form (scan, sprite)
-Height and Weight

Among other bits of info. Toastypk 17:15, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Also Sugimori art and anime art. tc26 23:28, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Shaymin Sky Form:


Do you have a cleaned-up version of Sky Form Shaymin's sprite? --Shiny Noctowl 17:53, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
We probably won't have that until someone gets their hands on the game. - Cassius335 21:46, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
We have Giratina's Platinum sprite, and it was also just extracted from a CoroCoro page. --Shiny Noctowl 23:51, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
I have a cleaned up sprite. - GanLnkZld 7:42, 17 June 2008(UTC)
upload it then call it "Spr 4p 492.png" --lord mada 14:56, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
I did that, but it didn't show up on the Shaymin page. And you can't edit anything on that page which totally sucks. Also, I'm pretty new here; is there an administrator that can help put it up? - GanLnkZld 16:23, 17 June 2008(UTC)
Nothing you can edit on this page can solve that problem. Check the page again tomorrow. --FabuVinny |Talk Page| 16:39, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Now wait, is it the real sprite or is it a custom sprite? I just saw what you uploaded to the archives. That is a terrible quality and it is unacceptable. -Sketchies 16:58, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

It may not be a brilliant extract from the image we have but it is real and we aren't getting the sprite properly until the game comes out. --FabuVinny |Talk Page| 17:35, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Then we shouldn't have it at all. Period. -Sketchies 17:43, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
We need it, it's just temporary for now and once the game comes out we'll get its crisp, beautifully-rendered form, but until then this crappy screenshot which isn't full size is all we're gonna get. TTEchidna 17:47, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
I agree. it's nicer looking than a broken link anyway --lord mada 17:54, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Is this the picture you saw, because I uploaded two. One of them was very crappy. This is the better one. - GanLnkZld 19:34, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't get it. Why is Archives being an ass as far as interwiki image updates go? TTEchidna 23:04, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

So I ask again. Can we finally unlock this? Toastypk 19:56, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

OH NO!

hey! remove that sprite of Shaiymin please!! it looks soooo crapy... a sprite should be in good quality to be uploaded, like Giratina's. hfc2X 02:45, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

I have to agree...I'm sure we can wait for a screenshot of correct resolution instead of improvising that...thing.--Loveはドコ? (talk contribs) 04:41, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Sorry. I'm the one that uploaded that piece of crap. For some reason, every time I upload a new version of that image it always changes back to the first version for a day or two, then it changes to the new one. Maybe it's because the article is protected. Anyways, it should fix itself pretty soon. This is what it should look like: GanLnkZld 18:26, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

1 question, do we need the event for shaymin in Pokémon Platinum? --Nobody777 10:04, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

I question: Could one get Jirachi or Deoxys in Emerald without the event? It's the Θρtιmαtum♏Talk|Links10:59 5 Jul 2008

Glacidia's Flower

Look at this! Looks like Land Forme isn't exclusive to Diamond and Pearl anymore! Blazevoir 21:40, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

I know but it's not that confirmed.--CoolPikachu! 21:55, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

I trust that site and would like it to be true, but yeah CoolPikachu is right. I think it is though.-Rabla

Height and Weight

Although I can't read Japanese at all, I am guessing by this trusted site that Sky Forme weighs 5.2 kg and is 0.4 m tall. Someone should probably update the page. Also under the gold arrow I think it has some information about trading Shaymin to Platinum from Diamond and Pearl. I am just guessing this by the box art. -- User:23-03-33 04:20, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Updated. No idea what's up with the trading. TTEchidna 04:58, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Art in the infobox

I know with Deoxys we do the "standard forme" thing... but we have Wormadam with all three of her coats, same with Burmy, and Shellos and Gastrodon in both West and East Sea variations. I know that's how the Sugimori art came, but why the heck not combine the images into one, then put it in the infobox? TTEchidna 17:42, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Hm? TTEchidna 21:09, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

We'll see--KukiTalk 21:14, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Anyone got a better answer? Like, an opinion? TTEchidna 23:17, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
I think it's better to have all forms on the infobox. Well, at least for every Pokémon with multiple forms excepting Arceus (because 17 forms is excesive LOL). hfc2X 23:47, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
If you're able to combine the artworks... - Taylor 23:48, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
Yes, I'll do it... but I'm not at home now xD hfc2X 23:57, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Base stats?

Do we know ANY of Shaymin sky forme's base stats yet? And can we list it's base HP the same as shaymins? Because in those pictures depicting the glacedia's flower, youcan see that the level 50 shaymin's HP stayed the same upon changing formes. SLE_aman

Best thing to do is wait. TTEchidna 21:05, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Cry

Okay, the game's not out yet, and while the "tweet tweet tweet" would sound odd coming from Mr. Badass over here... do we have proof that it'll change? TTEchidna 18:40, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Believe me. I think it will sound weird too, but I first thought Deoxys' cry was more aggressive before I heard it, but it was not changed anyways. hfc2X 05:37, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Sprites

In the platinum sprites, it shows shaymin's sky forme, shouldn't it also show shaymin's platinum land forme? We have bidoof's platinum sprite, so why not shaymin? (BTW, I mentioned bidoof because they appear in the same screenshot) SLE_aman

Well... actually I was thinking we should really be waiting for the Pt-animated sprites. They're supposed to be better than DP's, and the third version always gets .gifs anyway. TTEchidna 08:19, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
But, for this we may need the sky back sprite too. Strong Intelligent
Also, who got the idea for shaymin's sky forme's shiny forme? I don't think that should be there, who's to say that the flower pedal, wing things won't be changed in color? SLE_aman

According to the movie site

On this page, it states that Shaymin only stays in Sky Forme during the day and when it is not Frozen. Should this be added? --Pizzaman 23:35, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

I believe it already is--KukiTalk 23:47, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

It is stated on the Platinum page, but not here. --Pizzaman 23:49, 11 August 2008 (UTC)--Pizzaman 23:49, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
Does that mean that if, somehow, Tri Attack were to freeze it in battle, or it somehow survived an Ice Beam... it'd change back in battle? TTEchidna 20:14, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Tiny Land forme Platinum sprite!

Since (probably) no one has done it yet, I have gone ahead and made a clean-up of the Platinum sprite of Shaymin's Land Forme:


I AM AWARE that it's small and the quality is bad. The reason why is because I took this from a screenshot of a Bidoof and Shaymin being traded (best deal ever). The screenshot wasn't fullsize but it's better than nothing. I guess we could do with this sprite for now until we get a better quality, fullsize screenshot with Landmin in it... Pocchama 02:51, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

I thought of actually creating a full-sized one, but it's not worth it becuase we'll have to trash it anyways when the Platinum sprites come out...just be patience, Bulbapedia is an encyclopedia, not a fortune teller.--☆Tavisource 03:13, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Don't worry, I have an actual size bad quality sprite of the Land Forme and I almost finished restoring it. hfc2X 16:06, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

What?

"*The way Sky Forme Shaymin fly in a group, their reindeer-like appearance, and the way they prance in the air may be similar to that of Santa's reindeer. This would be slightly ironic, seeing as it has a double weakness to Ice." --from the trivia

When have more than one Shaymin ever been seen together? And who forgot to use {{t}}? --Martonimos((Argh|Blargh)) 23:49, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Second question answered. But seriously, Shaymin is a legendary. I doubt that there'd be more than one of them in the same shot ever; that's only happened once with Lugia in the anime, as far as I know. --Martonimos((Argh|Blargh)) 23:51, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

See this Movie 11 clip. There are several other Shaymin there. Pocchama 02:58, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Official Land Forme sprite

All right, this is the real one:

I'll add the transparent background when I get Paint Shop Pro 8 installed onto this computer. This would originally show up on Shaymin's page, but the site is a bit picky on whether the file extension is capitalized or not... and I couldn't get the extension for this uncapitalized. >n< Pocchama 03:10, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Why bother with PSP? I just use GIMP... TTEchidna 20:07, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Hmm... good point. I guess I could go ahead and use GIMP. It sure would save me a lot of time. xD

By the way, how did the official sprite get replaced with the restoration? The official one is on the left.


Shiny Sky Forme

Is that even possible? Considering that only the givaway Shaymin can transform. Do Pokémon given away by Nintendo/Game Freak have the potential to be shiny? ~$aturn¥oshi THE VOICES 18:37, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Like ??? Arceus, it's probably in the game data to stop hacked games from crashing when they want a shiny Sky Forme.Blastoise RULZ 19:47, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
Who says only the promo one can transform? You can soft reset for the Flower Paradise one, and it can transform just like a Deoxys transferred from Gen III that was caught and soft reset for a shiny can transform the same as a Deoxys from the GameStop event. TTEchidna 20:07, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

You can transform any Shaymin, not just the event one!

Check this out! According to this and this, any Shaymin is able to transform. The first one has a nicknamed Shaymin that is seen transforming and the second one has a shiny nicknamed Shaymin that is also doing this. Should we update the Glacidea/Glacidea Flower articles with this? Pocchama 22:33, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

I think we very well should. It can't be an Action Replay or Gameshark, for the obvious reason of the game possibly being too new. --PsychicRider 20:42, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
Correct. --ニョロトノ666 20:46, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Glacidea Flower requirements confirmed

According to pokesav.org, it's confirmed that you must have the EVENT shaymin in your party to GET the Glacidea Flower from the lady in Floaroma, but ANY shaymin can transform AFTER getting the flower. To be more specific, you must have a shaymin "met in a fateful encounter" to get the Glacidea Flower, meaning that any shaymin that was hacked to be met in a "fateful encounter" will be able to get the Glacidea Flower. And remember that any Shaymin can transform, including hacked ones from Flower Paradise.- unsigned comment from Blueapple128 (talkcontribs)

of course it can't be used at night or when Shaymin is frozen, and if used at day; when night come Shaymin will transform back into her previous form. User:Agent008

Can't use Sky Form on wifi...

I remember talking to some my friends online who said that someone tested and Shaymin turns back into Land form when you take her to wifi... damnit, that sucks, I wanted to use her cute little Sky form online... I'm going to go ahead and add that to the article, someone should find a video or article confirming it. ~Toastypk - Loom. 03:43, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, now I'm wondering about PBR. Do Shaymin, Giratina, and Rotom turn back to normal when in use in those games? Come to think of it, someone oughta test Deoxys when connecting FR, LG, or E to Colo/XD. TTEchidna 04:09, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
XD can tell Deoxys's forms apart. ****, one of the in-game options for the Battle Now mode involves Deoxys and its forms! The option involves how the forms are shown; the forms can be masked and all Deoxys are displayed as the normal form, or the forms can be revealed and shown as they are. --Shiningpikablu252 15:30, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
Going to put this on Spading. ~Toastypk - Loom. 20:29, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
Apparently Sky forme Shaymin etc. can be used on Wi-fi with the help of an Action Replay code on Platinum, as evidenced here and here. I'm not sure where to find it though, or if both sides must have it activated (probably so).- unsigned comment from Chimimoryo (talkcontribs)

Irony

[5] ironic but soon out of date look at feature section. Atomix26 03:12, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Seems that they know that everyone knows that Shaymin exists, even when they haven't revealed it yet. hfc2X 18:13, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

TM/HM

Do both forms have the same TM/HM moveset? ht14 03:22, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

TWEAKING

Since it's been proved to get Shaymin through tweaking, I put "(CONFIRMED)"(like on the tweaking page), 'cause it just said that it's like, a rumor to get Shaymin with the tweaking glitch....... P.S., I got Shaymin on an old Diamond account with the teaking glitch. It's true!-Dragonbeastx 02:11, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

What the?....

My confirmed thing got erased already....... It's already been confirmed..... I don't believe this.........-Dragonbeastx 02:15, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Well we need proof that it's been confirmed. Wherez duh prouf?--The Kkllnnator blastoise 02:19, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Shaymin appearing on Pokémon.com

Shaymin started appearing on Pokemon.com in a similar manner as Darkrai did.--KinCryos 02:00, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

I saw it too. I'm surprised it's not already in the news. パチリスの恋人12 02:28, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

New Dex entry!?

Everyone! Look at this! http://www.go-pokemon.com/tcg/news/articles/103.html I just saw a Shaymin Sky Forme card on go-pokémon.com, and IT HAS A DIFFERENT DEX ENTRY!! It is: "The flowers all over its body burst into bloom if it is lovingly hugged and senses gratitude." I'm thinking maybe Shaymin can have an alternate Dex entry in Platinum... Or maybe this is the original, except translated or something. パルキアJosh 21:55, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Even though it hasn't happened yet in Gen IV, the TCG makes up dex entries all the time.--freezingCOLD (page, talk) 21:57, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
That seems to be the Platinum entry. It was just translated differently from when I did it.--Loveはドコ? (talk contribs) 22:02, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Sky Form Appearance

According to the entry Shaymin's sky form is canine like but I disagree. If you have seen Giratina and the Sky Warrior you will notice that Shaymin runs while flying and that the ears are now shaped similarly to antlers (see above image); which leads me to the fact that it's more (rein)deer like. Does anyone have a link to an official announcement stating that Sky-Form Shaymin is in fact a dog? Otherwise I suggest a vote be made for the correction. Shaowstrike 04:05, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Remove the ears and you get a dog... also, are antlers flexible? as far as I know, they are not, and Shaymin's ears are. It's better to use the forums for thing like these. hfc2X 17:56, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure stuff like this is why each wiki page has a discussion section. It wasn't some random fan comment, it was an actual question about the accuracy of the information in the article. Shaowstrike 22:07, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Shaowstrike. The shaymin were acting like reindeer in the movie. 16ipodfanatic 14:44, 21 March 2009 (UTC)user:16ipodfanatic

Japanese name?

Shaymin's Japanese name is シェイミ, which is romanized as Sheimi, where's the N coming from? I don't see a ン in there anywhere.--Dwedit 10:01, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Know that released for Movie 12? Official romanization copyrighted by Nintendo, as we use here. "アルセウス" romanizes directly to "Aruseusu", but the same calendar's red letters spell out "Arceus". Plus, go to the Japanese site sometime. They use official romanizations in their page urls, and Shaymin's definitely used there. TTEchidna 10:04, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

WHY?

Why was my theory deleted? I only said it was a maybe!!! 16ipodfanatic 14:44, 21 March 2009 (UTC)user:16ipodfanatic

Exaclty. Maybe = SPECULATION, and therefore is not proven. --Theryguy512 14:49, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I see your point. Still, I'm going to hang on to this theory.It might be proven in the future. 16ipodfanatic 21:59, 21 March 2009 (UTC)