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Talk:Shadow Force (move)

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NOT invulnerable

Shadow Force prevents most attacks from hitting, but the Pokémon using it can still take damage from status effects and weather conditions. It can also be penetrated by ANY attack if the opponent uses Mind Reader or Lock-on before the Pokémon vanishes (found that out the hard way...). Diachronos 16:35, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Noted and changed. — THE TROM — 07:10, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
Changed more. If Mind Reader or Lock-On were mentioned, they were removed. I just added them. — SheeEttin {T/C} 03:01, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
I also want to note that a Pokemon with No-Guard can penetrate the invulnerability with any attack (Assuming Giratina/Arceus aren't immune to it).Joe T.E. 01:02, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

In the Anime?

There's several points in the movie where Giratina dodges attacks by disappearing. [1] It's never named, and it never uses it to attack, but isn't that supposed to be Shadow Force? --Phred 00:09, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

I always thought it was that tornado, since Giratina goes through dimensions with it.Nintendofan146B 01:40, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

I thought that the tornado thing was a more specific ability not available in-game, whereas his Disappearing Act was actually Shadow Force. Any more thoughts on this? --Solovino 17:56, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Uproar

Will shadow force really fail if uproar is in effect? I've never heard this before.--Skaisdead 18:59, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

No. Description error. TTEchidna 21:33, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Quick Guard and Wide Guard

What about the effects of these when Shadow Force attacks? Pokémon 21:06, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Shadow Force is not a priority move and it doesn't hit multiple opponents so neither of those moves will have an effect. Dilophosaurus Rex 10:46, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
Just about to ask this question. Sure, it's not affected by them, but does it break them? Feint breaks Wide Guard despite not hitting multiple targets. --SnorlaxMonster 12:55, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
Wide Guard is simple to test, as all you need is a Pokémon slower than the user of Shadow Force.
However, for Quick Guard you need a ridiculously specific situation. The issue here is that Quick Guard only blocks priority moves, and Shadow Force is not a priority move, so usually they would go after it. However, if you have something with Prankster use it via Assist while holding a Power Herb, Pokémon that are slower than it can still use +1 priority moves. Unfortunately, I don't have a Prankster Purrloin (only Prankster Pokémon that also gets Assist) or a Giratina in BW, so I can't test this. Any volunteers? --SnorlaxMonster 11:27, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
Tested this in Generation V and as expected Shadow Force breaks Quick Guard and Wide Guard for the rest of the turn. It's even easier to check in Gen VI, since there is a message that tells you that you've broken the protection; unfortunately, I don't currently have Shadow Force in Generation VI, but Phantom Force breaks all forms of protection. --SnorlaxMonster 13:55, 20 January 2014 (UTC)