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Smogon says Brave Bird does 1/3 of the damage. It's very strange that some 120 power moves do 1/4 and some do 1/3. --Raijinili 07:06, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
- I copied the figures from List of moves that do damage. So if there's any errors, two pages need updating. Gywall(Talk) 10:07, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
- We should really have that kind of thing templatized, so that only the template needs to be changed. --Raijinili 01:36, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
Are Self Destruct and Explosion a recoil
If it is, then I will put it on the page --Metagross72 03:56, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
Items with Recoil
- Even the Life Orb is stretching it, IMO. My understanding of recoil is that it would only count as such if the damage received is based on the damage dealt. For example, Double Edge deals recoil damage because the attack hits so hard as to damage the user as well. As I understand the Life Orb, the user sacrifices some of their own power to power up their attack.
- I agree that items such as the Flame Orb and Sticky Barb need to go, though. The effects of those take effect even if the Pokémon holding them doesn't attack, for instance if they are charging Solarbeam or the trainer uses an item. --AndyPKMN 12:22, 14 October 2010 (UTC)