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Cinnibar

It's quite possible that Cinnibar is a part of the Sevii Islands, as Midway Island, for instance, is technically a part of the Hawaiian chain. evkl 19:26, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Shinnou

Where did that information come from that Shino is based on Hokkaido? --Greengiant 02:35, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Because, you gotta look at the released Corocoro scans from this month ==Jade 2.56pm, 14 June 2006 (AEST)
And what do you know about Japanese geography, eh? Could be Hokkaido - but the mountain chain makes me suspect Hokuriku - which is on the west side of the Japanese Alps. - 振霖T 07:22, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
To anyone who wishes to edit this page so as to state that Hokkaido has been confirmed - learn Japanese beforehand and refrain from counting on unofficial web sites. CoroCoro only referred to Shin'ō as an island similar to Hoenn - that leaves Shikoku and Hokkaido. It is plain to see that the map, which has been largely revealed to us, takes the shape of Hokkaido. It is for this that some web sites such as Filb.de claim it to be based on Hokkaido as if it were confirmed.
Unlike Zhen Lin, I am absolutely confident in the veracity of Hokkaido. Even so, the correct wording is to be used at the very least until a full map has been obtained. Hoenn was confirmed to have been modeled after Kyūshū not long after Ruby and Sapphire had seen release. That said, Sevii Islands and Orre have thus far remained in the realm of speculation - but at least we have the resources provided by the games. --Unown Lord
What about the orange islands and fiore? Pokeant 14:36, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

I mean look at Sinnoh's shape...

Funny thing about orre...(get it?Orrezona((Arizona and Orre)).).

--Snorlax 06:18, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Indian elephants

Hm. I was flipping through my FireRed game the other day, and there's lots of Indian elephants mentioned in the Pokedex entries... is this worth mentioning? TinaTheKirlia 02:04, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Pikachu's power? Definately. --Kyoufu Kawa 18:25, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Noah's ark

I was watching Pokémon Shipwreck and i noticed that brock tells about noah and the ark. Can we put that somewhere? --Spr 3e 115.gifTheryguy512Spr 3e 202.gifSpr 3e 327.gif 22:50, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

What the heck does that have to do with geography? --Zeta 21:58, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
It doesn't, it has to do with history of our world Count Caterpie 23:22, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Wrong again. It has to do with the mythology of our world, not history. You shouldn't too much into it, anyway, it was just a cop out. They didn't feel like making a whole new religion for the series, so they stole the most readily available one.--Nostalgia 14:03, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

About the real world locations mentioned section...

some of these things just have to go. The Fantina dialogue thing doesn't really have anything to do with it since that only happened immediately before the battle, not when you first encounter her at the contest hall or after you beat her. Besides, she could have just been using a fake accent. I mean, Blue was using a french accent when he fought you on the St. Anne, and the last time I checked, he never visited France or anything, never spoke in that accent prior to it, and immediately dropped the accent right after you beat him. Also, i doubt that an Indian elephant should count towards a real world location (maybe real world animal, but definitely not a real world location.)

anyways, thats all for now.

~~Weedle Mchairybug~~


Actually Fantina says something about moving to Hearthrome(spelling might be wrong) City before the battle.I am not sure but I think that backs up that she is from France

~~Starfire~~


Just because she said that she moved to hearthrome city doesn't necessarily mean that she was from France. I mean, if she explicitly stated that she was from France (or canada, even), then yes, that would have merit. But she never really said where she moved from. she only gave a vague mention of another country. I mean, for all we know, she could have just as easily come from the Orange or sevii Islands (I think of the Sevii Islands as an entirely seperate place than an actual region considering how it and Kanto seem to have somewhat of a feud before you arrived that wouldn't be of this scale if it was a region.], or Heck, even Orre (they seemed to imply through a news report in colosseum that it has entirely different regions due to the fact that they mentioned that several regions were attacked by Abnormal Pokemon, and since Kanto/Johto/Hoenn never even referenced being attacked by them, that seems to imply that it is an entirely different country in and of itself.).

I mean if you wish, go ahead, but I just want to say that I'm not too sure about that. I mean, if she was explicitly said to have come from france (like the Trainer dex in Pokemon FRLG said about Lt. Surge [I don't count the "Lightning American" thing as evidence that he is American since Some of the Gym Leaders were given similar nicknames even though they really don't have any corollation with each other (Tomboyish Mermaid, Elegant Princess, among others comes to mind [Misty's not a mermaid because she doesn't have a fish tail, she doesn't sit on rocks to comb her hair {her hair is very short, anyways}, and she never really stated that she was a Mermaid or related to them. As for Erika, she never really said that she was related to any royal family.].).].) then, yes, Go on ahead.

But since she never really stated that she was from France (her speaking french doesn't count since 1. she seemed to be faking it since the only time she ACTUALLY spoke french was when you meet up with her, which she drops when she is close to losing, and 2. Even IF she was actually able to speak french, that doesn't mean she is from France. remember, Canada, Jamacia as well as some african countrys speak French as part of their language.), we shouldn't say that she was from France.

~~Weedle_McHairybug~~

Regarding the map...

The map is veerrryyy wrong! It should be like this: japanforonceandforeverdz3.png Or maybe this is clearer: japanys0.png Please people, it's a common made mistake, but it isn't that hard to see, is it?

Zig

Deoxys reference

The "North Pole" doesn't necessarily have to be a reference to a real-world location. Every planet has a north and south pole. Ketsuban 20:02, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Antarctica or North Pole?

I'm confused. I could have sworn that Deoxys landed in Antarctica, yet this article says it's the North Pole. Could someone clarify? JirachiWishmaker0802 10:59, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

It's possible different tellings of the franchise have different landing spots for Deoxys. For all we know, had The Electric Tale of Pikachu reached Hoenn, Deoxys could have crashed in downtown Honolulu, Hawaii in that telling. --Shiningpikablu252 14:35, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
You know, I think we should eliminate it from the references section, as the term "North pole" doesn't necessarily hint at Antartica. Besides, Antartica isn't even the North Pole, if anything, it's more the exact opposite term. Weedle Mchairybug 00:21, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Could someone update the map?

Almia should be included, as it's attached to Sinnoh. - unsigned comment from LynnCreed (talkcontribs)


no almia's place should not be part of the main map because it is just a side game. almia should be in a "side game's map". Maybe that small part will be part of another generation game! do you have absolute proof from the developers of the game? i think not! plus if there is no mention of the national pokedex, then almia is in a different nation. since the main games are one nation, most likely the geography is influenced by japan, there are no separate nations inside what is similar to japanese land. you cannot be too sure until it is 100% proven. plus almia is just a small area of land similar to most things to the world right now. it can be part of the area of northern africa and mediterranean sea. also the games state that they are far away from the main pokemon games. - unsigned comment from Pipcrew (talkcontribs)

Game Systems

Would that be a reference to the real world because they are made in the real world? - unsigned comment from Midnight Blue (talkcontribs)

Harlan County, Kentucky

In my sperpetic,Oreburgh reminds me around my home County, Harlan County , also the mines.The Aura Wolf !!!! 23:03, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Your what?--freezingCOLD (page, talk) 23:04, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Lots of places have mines. He means perspective. — THE TROM — 23:06, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
There's pretty much no chance that a Japanese game is referring to your home county. There are many more notable mining areas, many in Pennsylvania, for example. I'm sure there's even more in Japan that are more likely. The Dark Fiddler - 10% Satisfaction Guaranteed! 23:07, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
True, but then again, the Metal Gear series was a Japanese game (it was made in Japan, and was originally intended to be Japanese exclusive), and yet most of it's locations were anywhere BUT Japan (In fact, the only REAL Japanese references that was in the MG games was Master Miller, Akiba, "Kuwabara, Kuwabara", and the Tsuchinoko from "Snake Eater", which is pretty lacking anyways.). Heck, Sootopolis's geography was inspired by Santorini, Greece. For all we know, Harlan County could have served as a minor inspiration. Weedle Mchairybug 00:26, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
As someone from Bullitt County, Kentucky, I'm going to have to say that such a claim is silly. We have had some form of confirmation on every other consistency. Until TPC comes out and says, "Yeah, it's totally our intention that Oreburgh be based on a county in the eastern part of a state in the US that we have almost assuredly never heard of," it's just very erroneous speculation. PS - Go MSU. --Purimpopoie 04:38, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Map with Almia

I've made a map with Almia included. I think it's better to use this one Pokemonworld.png --Furanty 17:13, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

I think we should keep the almia part blank.It's not even part of the main series obviously. or we could make maps of the main series and the other series separate. spinoff regions does not always relate to the main regions. Almia might be a parallel to india for all we know! plus almia does not look like it is on that part of japan but more on the southern part of sinnoh. - unsigned comment from Pipcrew (talkcontribs)

Note that the game with Almia mentions that Shinoh is nearby (hence the choice to send the Manaphy egg there). --Deuxhero 23:10, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Pepe Toño Macías

On latinamerican dub, James' voice actor always names a real world city (mostly latin-american, but some famous world cities are mentioned to) on Team Rocket's Motto, replacing the earlier "y extender nuestro reino hasta las estrellas" with "y extender nuestro reino a [real world city]". Most latin-american capital cities has been named as well as many other important cities like Córdoba (Argentinian seconds), Acapulco or Cancún (Mexican strongest tourist region), Punta del Este (famous uruguayan city), Viña del Mar (Chilean city who host one of the most sponsored music shows on the region), etc.

He is also the main reason to include many differents countries slangs to the whole Team Rocket, mostly mexican ones because of where the dub is translated. - unsigned comment from Mephisto (talkcontribs)

Other Articles?

Is there a reason all this information is listed only here, and not on the locations individual pages? Personally I think it is relevant Trivia that, for instance, Mt. Silver is based on Mt. Fuji. Darien Shields 05:43, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

It's listed on some of them, mainly the regions. Sure it's interesting trivia, but we don't want the articles to be made of 100% trivia. TTEchidna 06:21, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
True, but in some cases wouldn't you say it's relevant? For instance, Ecruteak City is based on Kyoto (not mentioned in Ecruteak's article at the moment), both cities are very old and have a lot of history. Kyoto is famous outside Japan- I'd hazard a guess at it being the second most well known Japanese city. Kyoto's history contributes to Ecruteak's role in the games. Wouldn't you say that's relevant? Violet City being based on Nara is, perhaps, less relevant, and wouldn't be very meaningful to most people using the wiki, so things like that perhaps could be skipped. But I definitely think that at least Mt. Silver/Fuji and Ecruteak/Kyoto are worth mentioning. I want to say something regarding Tokyo too, but the matter seems pretty complicated since there's no single Tokyo analogue.
Also, just a passing thought, is it worth maybe mentioning the opposite- for places like Pacifidog town- that they are lacking in real world analogue? Darien Shields 04:59, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Regarding Hoenn

Actually, I've done some of my own research into the correlation between Hoenn and its real-life counterpart and would like to argue that Rustboro is a much better candidate to counterpart with Fukuoka than Rustboro. The region (according to wikipedia which is the source I used) is known for its industrial and steel works, which seems pretty analogous to Rustboro's Devon Corp.

Also, Lavaridge matches up to Ōita much better than Fallabour. Ōita is closer to Beppu, the hotspring region. It's possible that whoever said Lavaridge was Aso got the two Hoenn Cities mixed up, because looking at the map of Kyushu, they're the other way around.

Kagoshima could possibly be Lilycove, as it's a bay city with a small round island in the port, which could be analogous to Mt. Pyre.

I'm not sure who wrote up the Hoenn cities part of the article, but I'd definitely argue that they didn't look closely enough at a map of Kyushu or of Hoenn, as some of them match up to other cities much better than the ones listed. Sorry to seem like a jerk, but I've done a LOT of reading online about this and it's too bad the Bulba article isn't better. I'll edit the article eventually, I'd just like a reply here first. AutumnRain 18:12, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Sure, show us what you got. And I completely agree... Rustboro is a much better candidate than Rustboro ;) You may want to doublecheck that :D —darklordtrom 08:18, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Table Overload

This page is mostly composed of tables, tables, and more tables. We need some actual writing in here, as well as images, or else I feel this article doesn't deserve its status as a Featured Article. It's informative, but the way it's presented simply doesn't share that information in a productive way. Redstar 15:15, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

What else would you have us add? If that's all we have, it's kinda hard to add more. And it doesn't look good as a bunch of bullet points making up a whole page. R.A. Hunter Blade 18:39, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
This is just an idea, but how about some free use pictures of the real-life landmarks, like Kinkaku-ji (Brass Tower), Ginkaku-ji (Tin tower), Mount Fuji (Mt. Silver), etc.? It would be neat to see, especially if we had them side-by-side with game screenshots (or Midori Harada art? ...or anime screenshots, that would probably be better) of the Pokemon world locations. 梅子 18:54, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
That would work, but we'd have to find all of the real world pictures that would look like the Harada art though. We wouldn't have to have a picture for every location though, so whatever Harada art we have we should try to find something for it. R.A. Hunter Blade 19:07, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
Well, as I edited in, we could also use anime screenshots instead of restricting ourselves to what few Harada location art there is. For example, we could do...
with this
...Though of course all city skylines look pretty much the same, so that wouldn't be an ideal example. Just pointing out that we could go with anime art too. :P 梅子 22:19, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
I would have real information explaining why these different regions and cities are counterparts to real-world areas. All of the sections simply say "x is based off x". Why are they based off those areas? Was it stated in an interview, or is there a mountain of evidence that cannot be swept aside as coincidence? Some reasoning would really help this article, and without it the whole page just seems to lack any real information, which is why I don't feel it should be Featured. I also agree with Umeko's suggestion for side-by-side comparison images, but we should definitely limit them to things that, without a doubt, can be visually-comparable. Redstar 03:02, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
I do hope you saw the
175Togepi.png This article contains fan speculation.
There is no solid evidence for or against some parts of this article.
at the top of the page. That is why there isn't that much evidence stated. A lot of the things were put up there, and people agreed on it. That's about how fan speculation pages work. But I do agree, we need something more. Unfortunately, that'll be hard to do, since most of it is speculation. A lot of it though, is where things are located in Japan and the anime, as seen on that map at the top of the page. R.A. Hunter Blade 05:09, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
Of course I noticed. Despite that (or perhaps even because of it) more information is needed to support these claims. People like knowing why things are the way they are, not just that they are. Considering the mantle of "fan speculation" is already applied to this article, then we should feel free to add more of it without worry. Now, there should be standards. There should be no doubt that there are correlations between one thing and another, and no "logical" jumps or rationalizations. The towers have the same appearance, purpose, and general history as real-world counterparts... So that could easily be considered a fact and should be elaborated on a bit. Where Orre is, for example, should have options and reasons for and against each one. This article can definitely be improved, but how is something we need to figure out. Redstar 05:32, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Comments

Should the sections in the various tables marked for comments be for notes on the real-world counterparts, as is currently done, or should we only write comments if there's some similarity other than geography to note between the Pokémon world and real world? Redstar 13:40, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

These comments do talk about similarities. Pallet is the player's hometown, Vermilion has a large harbor, Celadon and Saffron are big cities, Cinnabar has a volcano... The comments are for links between the Pokémon world and the real world. --electAbuzzzz 14:05, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
Some of them aren't, like the comment for Dewford Town which only states that the real-world basis used to belong to Korea. (That one, at least, just sounds like Japan-Korea politics) Redstar 14:08, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Oblivia

Anyone got a clue where around real world Japan, Oblivia lies? Oblivia artwork.png Can't see any islands that look like it or anything O: All the islands are so small...- unsigned comment from Saiph charon (talkcontribs)

Might not be an area of Japan. Spin off game regions don't always relate to the other regions. --AndyPKMN 19:00, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Milonda Island appears to be based off of Dogo Island. Rainbow Island seems to be based off of a combination of Nishino and Nakano Islands. Drop island appears to be based off of Chiburi Island. They all are part of the Oki Islands. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Oki_Islands.png

Sopiana Island is without a doubt based off of Ulleungdo Island. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulleungdo

Thundercloud and Shikulele Island appear to be loosely based off of the Liancourt rocks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liancourt_Rocks

All the islands mentioned are found in the sea of Japan north of Chugoku.--flamin entei 19:37, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

I dont think this is one of the best bulbapedia articles

Ive seen dozens more "Other applications of real-world locations" in the anime and that needs to be added.--Solid! 05:06, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

So, um, go for it? —darklordtrom 05:28, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Yeah Im getting there lol.Going to take a while to remember and view all of them that I know of. Im just very surprised Im the first one to put one in that has appeared in the tv anime series. --Solid! 05:30, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Regice

In pokemon Emerald, Regice's pokedex entry mentions Antartic ice. --pkmn master 11:12, 14 Febuary 2010 (UTC)

Map of Side Games

I know that the side games are more difficult to place, as far as true geographic regions go (if they even exist), but in the article itself, it mentions Orre as "[bearing] striking resemblance to the Gunma Prefecture of Japan in shape, which would place Orre north of Kanto and Johto." I think this is relevant to include on a map, although it doesn't have to be the one at the top of the page.--Lamb(talk) 21:29, 26 February 2010 (UTC)


we should keep a map of the side games separate from the map with the main games. side games are not really canon with the main games. - unsigned comment from Pipcrew (talkcontribs)

The Pokemon Ranger series of games are canon, Colosseum games, as well, however, seeing how that game contained Manaphy, which needed to be downloaded into DP, and the fact that they have direct connectivity to the main games. Weedle Mchairybug 02:05, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
Just because they're canon (which is, I believe, debatable) doesn't mean they all correspond to locations in Japan like the others. And if they don't relate to each other, making a map for them's gonna be pretty hard. On a side note, I think the Orre connections are quite a stretch, and there should at least be comparisons between Orre locations and Arizona alongside the comparisons to Japan. --AndyPKMN 02:25, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
lets just separate the maps then. the region on where the side game's area is on might be filled in by a later generation's region, the side game's region might not be in japan because they look like most other areas in the real world and the side region is not part of the main games. even though you can get manaphy in pokemon ranger does not mean that that game is canon. it just means that you can get manaphy from that game. Question- how does almia fit next to sinnoh? almia looks nothing like the tail of hokkaido which is sinnoh's real world counterpart. Almia does not look like it is in the south part of sinnoh either. If sinnoh is the pokemon counterpart of hokkaido shouldn't the center of almia be filled with land? - unsigned comment from Pipcrew (talkcontribs)
If they weren't canon, then there wouldn't be any connectivity, period. Absolutely no ties to the main games whatsoever is the very definition of not canon. That, as well as not even being made by the same people, period. Weedle Mchairybug 12:34, 27 February 2010 (UTC)


sorry to give you an example of another franchise but what about the naruto anime? all of it's filler arcs are noncanon and it has something to do with the characters. plus it is made by the same company who does the rest of the anime. - unsigned comment from Pipcrew (talkcontribs)

Orre Section Revamp

I'm sorry, but the section on Orre DEFINITELY needs work. so far it has only three locations listed, and those are listed with the presupposition that Orre is in fact based on a region of Japan. I did some research into Arizona and the surrounding area and found some more noticeable parallels.

Phenac City is obviously based on Phoenix, Arizona, for the reasons listed in the article already.

Mt. Battle could be based on Humphreys Peak, the highest point in Arizona. While it's not a volcano like Mt. Battle, neither is the Gunma Prefecture of Japan a desert. That said, Humphreys Peak also lands in the right place relative to other locations.

Pyrite Town could be based on Yuma, Arizona, which formerly housed a large prison facility (which fits in with both the Pyrite Town jail and the high crime rate in that section of Orre).

Agate Village was hard to find, but I eventually settled on the little town of Oatman, Arizona. Oatman lies right along Route 66, and, as with many towns along that route, has seen better days. While it doesn't appear as fertile as Agate Village, I thought the history of this mountain town fit in with the fact that the population of Agate Village is mostly elderly, with the young moving to the cities instead.

In terms of locations from XD, I widened my search to include locations not specifically in Arizona. I placed Gateon Port at the well-known city of San Diego, California.

Citadark Isle seems to correspond with Isla Guadelupe, a volcanic island off the coast of Baja California.

I don't know how this should be incorporated into the article, but I do believe at least some of this information needs to go there. Any help would be greatly appreciated. --AndyPKMN 15:12, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes, Gunma Prefecture isn't a desert, but then again, Floaroma Town isn't a flowerfield in real life, it is a desert. Anyways, I also don't recall Arizona being so barren that animals are even scarcer than water (which in Orre, apparently Pokémon actually are that scarce, at least in Colosseum.). I do doubt that it's near the Gunma Prefecture, but I also doubt that its supposed to be Arizona. Also, even going beyond Arizona, most of the locations don't match up. Citadark Island is on the opposite side of the real life location. Not to mention that San Diego isn't anywhere near that location. Maybe the old Colosseum map might have been based off of Arizona, but going by XD, it's not based off of Arizona or even the Southwestern United States/Mexican area, for that matter. Weedle Mchairybug 22:51, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
My bad about XD locations; I don't have the game, so it's hard to verify where they go (especially based on the few low quality Orre maps you can find). But nonetheless, the Orre section needs to change or be removed. The similarities listed are a real stretch (Outskirt Stand based on an archaeological site? I doubt it.), and besides, I thought Fiore's section was removed because it was a side game location. Should the same be done for Orre, perhaps with Phenac City moved to the section on non-Japanese influences? --AndyPKMN 15:03, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
there are no major deserts in japan (if you count the tottori sand dunes then yes but they are in the south of japan). if the fiore section is removed because it was a side game then we should remove orre. plus the state of arizona is not bordered by an ocean or something large like that water area near gateon port - unsigned comment from Pipcrew (talkcontribs)
...What about the Gulf of California? It doesn't have to be shaped EXACTLY like the state, it can also include nearby regions. Taknamay 14:14, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

New Image

I like how it's been aligned so the regions look more like they do in the games, but technically Hoenn's box should be a lot bigger. That southwestern island chain includes such places as Naha (the inspiration for Ever Grande City), Yonaguni (the inspiration for the Sealed Chamber), and Yaebishi (the inspiration for Mirage Island). In other words, Game Freak curled that island chain around to compress the region into a smaller space, likely for gameplay reasons. Also, it would tickle me pink for the map to include the Sevii Islands, although that might be trickier. --AndyPKMN 14:10, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

sorry i couldn't find a good map like the one i had with yonaguni, yaebishi the kuril islands and sakhalin. the colors are for the third games in the generation they were first seen in (in Japan). for johto i made it into suicune's thing on it's head. the sevii islands are red for fire red. if you want me to change the colors or fix anything, please ask. - unsigned comment from Pipcrew (talkcontribs)
First of all, you should sign your comments with four tildes (~). But in regards to the map, it's wonderful! I'm not too enthralled with the color selection (a bit dull; I would have gone with green for Kanto, yellow for Johto, red for Hoenn, and purple for Sinnoh, as is used in the new HGSS Pokédex guide) but with the level of inclusion contained within this map I'm willing to let that pass. Great job! --AndyPKMN 15:13, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
Bulbapedia uses distinct color templates, such as {{kanto color}}, for regional coloring. If an official guide uses other colors though... maybe we should look at changing them. —darklordtrom 01:28, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
ok i'll change themPipcrew 03:47, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
No, you won't. For one thing, the templates /should/ be protected. For another, changes of this nature need to go through the Editorial Board. —darklordtrom 10:42, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

but i created the original image. it says in the file history Pipcrew 23:48, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

And? Doesn't mean anything about the templates. TTEchidna 21:11, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
then what should i do? should i delete the map? Pipcrew 04:10, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Ecruteak Dance Theater

A rocket grunt mentions hula dancing...reference to Hawaii possibly? He tells this to the Kimono Girl --User:xaigon_paladin 1:12, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Yeah. Because it was made by the Hawaiians (technically settlers from Polynesia or something). Adding. R.A. Hunter Blade 20:41, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Isshu's Location

Isshu has been said to be far away from the other regions, and screenshots of Black and White show various landmarks similar to what are found in San Francisco (Such as the Golden Gate Bridge). I feel this should be mentioned. - unsigned comment from Tveye (talkcontribs)

I've heard New York and I've heard Hong Kong. Let's leave it at "some place really far away that might not be Japan" until the games are released and we can make more informed choices. —darklordtrom 20:43, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

propaganda.

Tsushima was an island of Korea before 1945; the old name is Daemado.

Tsushima doesn't belong to Korea before 1945. Bulbapedia becomes the place of dispatch of propaganda. Sawamular101 08:49, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

I think it can be chalked up to being an honest mistake. All you had to do was remove it, there was no need to come here and accuse us of spreading propaganda. 梅子 09:02, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

I am terribly disappointed. It is to not only the guess but also malignant propaganda. Sawamular101 09:05, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Calm down, dude. TTEchidna 09:18, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
We don't need any nationalist crap here. Correct the mistake yourself or politely point it out.—Loveはドコ? (talk contribs) 01:28, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

He is still doing propaganda. Sawamular101 07:08, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Numbers Stations

Do you guys think that we should include in the Ruins of Alph location info that the "Mysterious Transmission" is based on the real world's "Numbers Stations"? These short wave radios are used by spies. http://www.archive.org/details/ird059 --Kambash 20:17, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Pokémon world(Original Japanese version) in relation to the real world.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Ponyta_(Pok%C3%A9mon) The change in Pokedex entry is interesting. The explanation of Tokyo Tower exists in a Japanese version. Sawamular101 16:04, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

この わざを みんなは だいもんじやき と よんでいるが そりゃ まちがいだ!ほんば きょうと では だいもんじ とか おくりび と よんでいるのだ!

Blaine refers kyoto(Japanese city) in Generation III. It is convinced that it is erased in the non-Japanese version because it is not described in BULBAPEDIA. Sawamular101 05:23, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

some edits

As we are following Revised Hepburn as a standard for romanizations in listing the locations, "Oshima" (under Sevii Islands, Knot Island, prefecture) should be spelled "Ōshima", "Nakoudojima" (under Sevii Islands, Memorial Pillar, specific location) should be "Nakōdojima", and "Meiji no Mori Minoo" (under Johto, National Park, specific location) should be "Meiji no Mori Minō".

There is also "Chubu" (right under Johto) in stead of "Chūbu", "Honshu" (right under Hoenn) in stead of "Honshū", and "Hokkaido" (right under Sinnoh) in stead of "Hokkaidō", as well as a lot of other non-Hepburn romanizations in the comment section (Tokyo, Osaka, Kyoto, Oshima, Hokkaido, etc.) alongside the Hepburn ones (Kantō, Tōkaidō, Kyūshū, Hōryū-ji, etc.). I guess non-Hepburn is acceptable, as it is standard in everyday English use (mainly important cities like Tokyo, Osaka and Kyoto), but I think it would probably be better to choose either one.

Japanese Wikipedia pages to add:

Chichijima (Sevii Islands, Fortune Island): http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%88%B6%E5%B3%B6%E5%88%97%E5%B3%B6

Hahajima (Sevii Islands, Quest Island): http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%AF%8D%E5%B3%B6%E5%88%97%E5%B3%B6

Yaebishi (Hoenn, Mirage Island): http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%85%AB%E9%87%8D%E5%B9%B2%E7%80%AC

English Wikipedia pages to add:

Meiji no Mori Minō Quasi-National Park (Johto, National Park): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meiji_no_Mori_Min%C5%8D_Quasi-National_Park

Cape Nosappu (Sinnoh, Vista Lighthouse): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Nosappu

If you are still reading this, thank you for hearing me out. --Spenvdm 12:10, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

The motif of Isshu is New York.

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/interview/irbj/vol1/index2.html "Junichi Masuda" is insisted on that the motif of Isshu is New York. Sawamular101 02:04, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

"Go West Young Meowth" refereence?

He was in California in the episode. - unsigned comment from 444Zekrom (talkcontribs)

That's already noted in the episode. Besides, it really wouldn't be possible for them to travel from the Kanto Region to Hollywood, California with a van, and absolutely no reference to a plane in sight (since it was heavily implied that they took a van to get there.). Weedle Mchairybug 09:03, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

How are these real world locations?

"In A Bite to Remember, Jessie says that Albert Einstein created the light bulb. Max corrects her, saying that Thomas Edison was the creator."

"A Rocket Grunt mentions the hula dance to a Kimono Girl while in the Ecruteak dance theater"

Ive never heard of any locations named :Albert Einstein,Thomas Edison, kimono or hula. It seems the person who added this seems to be mistaken with pokemon in relation to real world things. I thought this was meant to include reference to PLACES!--Solid! 08:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

The article isn't limited to locations, but those points were in the wrong section. I created a new section for people and cultures. —darklordtrom 07:58, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
The hula dance point disappeared. And I'm leaving for school now, so I can't do it. R.A. Hunter Blade 12:37, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Side regions

The section is blank! Hardly fitting of a featured article. I propose noting Almia (covered above a few times) and Orre (expliclty confirmed, see the citation in the Orre article. --Deuxhero 23:12, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Isshu

Not wanting to add more information as there have been issues about its origin on other pages (no pun intended). However, I would like to point out that the note about Hiun City should be in the comments column, not shoved into the specific location column like it currently is. Could an admin fix that? --AndyPKMN 00:43, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Isshu seems not to exist in North American continent.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Isshu#New_Map_of_isshu. The game freak seems to have created the continent of fictitious. Sawamular101 11:43, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Anime=/=Games--Pokélova! 19:24, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

The United Tower is based in United States Headquarters in New York --Angelical Master Aqua 22:45, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Do you have anything to back that up, or is it just baseless speculation? --AndyPKMN (talk) 23:15, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Capitilization error in title

One would think that a featured article would have correct capitilization in the title. In the title the letters begin with lowercase letters when they should be uppercase. This is a basic rule of writing. I suggest this to be moved to so that the title is properly capitilized. If no one responds otherwise I'll move it to a correctly capitilized page. --Pokemaster97 23:10, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

I guess sence no one responded it's okay to move? --Pokemaster97 23:57, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
Okay I'm moving the article to Pokémon World In Relation To The Real World. Any objections please let me know withen five minutes. --Pokemaster97 00:07, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Not only is it not acceptable to move something just because someone hasn't "answered", it also looks very retarded. Unless it's something very specific, it Does Not Get Written Like This Because It Looks Wrong. Jellotalk 00:26, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Besides, I also think you were acting too hasty anyway, you could have contacted one of the administrators first since it would have been easier to avoid making a simple mistake like this. -Tyler53841 00:29, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Well I'm sorry I thought that since no one had anwsered that it was okay. I posted three times and someone could have said something instead of ignoring my comments. --Pokemaster97 00:40, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
No, your method of doing this was completely inappropriate. You don't tell people to respond within 5 minutes. You wait until at least one person responds. That's the whole point of a discussion. You can't have a discussion with yourself. I can't speak for the rest, but I can't sit around here all day watching all the talk pages. I had only noticed this discussion here after I realized what was done. Jellotalk 00:44, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Well I sencerly apologize for the way I handled the situation and I will not do it again in the future. I just want to help edit and I'm sorry if I made more work for you on here. I don't want to look "retarded" again. --Pokemaster97 00:47, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Don't worry about it. Also, I didn't call you retarded, I know my choice of words there was inappropriate but that wasn't directed at you. I apologize if I offended you. Jellotalk 00:50, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
It's okay you are just doing your job as admin. Thank you for letting me know about my mistake. --Pokemaster97 00:51, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Anyone think this is important??

as no one replied to my comment before, I'm putting it again here. I'm almost 100% sure that it's a parallel world! Should we put this in the article as a possibility?--Juzey!! (Talk) 09:50, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

I'll put it in now. --Juzey!! (Talk) 16:29, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
What are you talking about? Are you saying the Pokémon World is a parallel to our world... ? --Han Ji-Wan 18:14, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Yeah. --Juzey!! (Talk) 13:06, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
I wouldn't say it's a parallel to our world, just yet. Have we seen a region based on any part of Africa, Australia, Europe, South America? No. So, it's not parallel enough. I would say the Pokemon world is based on our world. :] --Han Ji-Wan 16:53, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
Just because we haven't seen them doesn't mean they aren't there! --Juzey!! (Talk) 17:54, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Official source. Inspiration origin of Unova.

Sootopolis City 屋久島 Yakushima 鹿児島県 Kagoshima The landscape of Sootopolis City is based on Santorini, Greece.

There is such a description. I similarly reflect an official source.

The source is Nintendo Dream vol.204. Sawamular101 02:53, 12 April 2011 (UTC)


Fiore

My proposal: Fiore could be the northern part of the Shimokita Peninsula (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shimokita_Peninsula)

  • Rural.
  • Closest to Sinnoh (Hokkaido).
  • The geography fits very well.

KameXros 17:09, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Real-world locations mentioned in the Anime: from dub or original?

It seems to me that some of the real-world locations mentioned in the Anime would clearly only be from the Dub. I think it's important to note this in the article somehow. Chaosakita 07:21, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Hoenn

Having lived in Kyushu for about a year, I have gone around and visited some of the approximate locations that correlate with Hoenn. It would seem that the Kurokawa onsen town is correct for Lavaridge. It's southwest, at the base of Mt. Chimney, as Kurokawa Onsen is northwest in Kyushu.

Beppu seems to be the best match for Fallarbor town. The whole town is rife with geothermal activity with steam rising up all over the urban area. While it has hot springs like Aso town, there are also other forms of geothermal activity such as steam vents. Which I would assume the crater in Fallarbor is supposed to represent.

In terms of Meteor Falls, it appears that it isn't just one source of inspiration, but many. Oita prefecture is famous for both waterfalls and limestone caves. As inspiration for the cave setting, I wouldn't be surprised if it was Furen Cave. [1] So it would seem that Meteor Falls is a combination of both the waterfalls and limestone caves found in the Oita prefecture.

On a final note, it looks like Sootopolis City is shaped more like Yakushima Island. Ever Grande city is currently compared to Yakushima, but it seems inaccurate. As Yakushima is circular, and closer in relation to Sootopolis than Iwojima. Ever Grande city is shaped more like Okinawa Island when comparing the two. Just my two cents on what might need correction in the Hoenn section. And I'd be happy to know what everyone else thinks. (MauvilleGrovyle (talk) 02:25, 13 July 2012 (UTC))

Fortree City: Kobayashi City, Miyazaki Prefecture?

Just flipping through Wikipedia and apparently there's an legend in the town involving the Suki Suspension Bridge, and since Fortree is big into their bridges, could be a match? If nobody has any significant objections I'll add it in. Rinne (talk) 16:19, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

A Pokémon Center in Pokémon BW/B2W2

In the Pokémon Black/White/Black2/White2 game, a globe is located on the second floor of any Pokémon Centers, it shows the real world, not the Pokemon world.

-- Love Krittaya (talk) 19:55, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, that's the Geonet, and it appears in DPPtHGSS too in the GTS/Global Terminal. It's necessary that it is the real world as it allows player's to specify their home country (and state/province) for international communication purposes. --SnorlaxMonster 08:14, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Gen VI

At what point is it a good idea to add details here about Kalos/France and Lumiose City/Paris? Miles (talk) 03:50, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Cerulean City RL Counterpart

In the table featured within the article, Cerulean City is said to be based on the real world Saitama City, Saitama Prefecture, Japan. Saitama City was not officially a city until 2001, several years after the 1st generation games. Cerulean was a city before Saitama existed as a city.

While you could then say that Cerulean was based on what was to become Saitama City, the geographical locations don't match either. With Maebashi and Mt Akagi (Pewter and Mt Moon) being way up in Gunma Prefecture, the scale of the map is huge. As Cerulean is much further East, but no further South, to put it down in Saitama Prefecture at all seems like a gross misplacement. The real-world counterpart would be much further East.

This makes me think it's actually a city called Tsuchiura, in Ibaraki prefecture.

Aside from this being a far more likely and accurate geographical correlation, Tsuchiura has many other points of relevance for Cerulean. Tsuchiura is famous for its massive abundance of lotus root; these plants grow and bloom in man-made lagoons - they are floating blooms. Cerulean is also mentioned as a "seaside" city, despite not being quite as far East as the sea; Tsuchiura sits right next to lake Kasumigaura, the second biggest lake in Japan, and has a seaside feel as a result, despite, as with Cerulean, not being quite as far East as the actual sea. The area that joins onto Tsuchiura, to the North East, is called Kasumigaura, possibly the inspiration for the gym leader (Kasumi) Misty. Misty's gym is located towards the bottom of Cerulean City, and Tsuchiura also has a huge gymnasium, including a complex of swimming pools and water park type features, which is located towards the bottom of the city. There are a couple of rivers that run through Tsuchiura, the largest being the river Sakura. The trainer bridge could also potentially correspond to the bridge that links Kasumigaura with Kasumigaura Fureai Land, although this is a little more speculative.

I'm aware that I could be wrong, but a great many things do seem to fit, or show a heavy similarity of being a match of some kind. Feel free to agree or disagree, but let me know what your reasons are for doing so. Cloud210 (talk) 11:25, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

Welcome to Bulbapedia! As for Cerulean, you seem to have done your homework. I agree with you to change Saitama to Tsuchiura. --IWannaBeTheVeryBest 15:21, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. I sort of missed my point when I mentioned the Sakura river. "Sakuragawa" means "river of bloom" which isn't a huge leap from "water of flower" - similar to the unofficial but generally accepted name for the sisters at Cerulean gym in the animé. Cloud210 (talk) 00:19, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Kalos Region

I thought I'd submit some Kalos region counterparts for consideration. I haven't found a lot; just a few leads. The first is the most obvious: Lumiose City clearly corresponds to Paris. Others are less clear. I think the Tower of Mastery corresponds to Mont Saint-Michel, and Geosenge Town and the stones around it probably correspond to the Carnac Stones, or a similar site of standing stones. If anyone wants to add these or has better ideas of what these locations correspond to, feel free to add them to the page. I'm still easing back into the editing groove, so I don't feel up to adding them myself yet. --AndyPKMN (talk) 20:29, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Sakhalin

Sakhalin is not disputed between Russia and Japan, how Sinnoh section of this article says. (Only Southern Kuril islands, including Kunashir are currently claimed by Japan). Southern Sakhalin belonged to Japan before WWII, but now it is recognized part of Russia. Ruxax (talk) 23:23, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Suggestions

I think I may have some suggestions for what some of locations of the Kalos Region is based on.

Vaniville Town: Moulins or Nevers;

Aquacorde Town: Nevers, Bourges, or Auxere;

Santalune City: Fontainbleau or Auxere;

Camphrier Town: Orleans or Tours;

Cyllage City: St. Nazerre or Guérande;

UsagiNeko (talk) 04:30, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Battle Maison / Château de Chenonceau real world equivalent addition

I know that this article has a lot of fan speculation but I've gone ahead and added a real-world equivalent to the Battle Maison in X and Y as Château de Chenonceau. I was surprised that nobody so far has noticed the parallel between the two since the similarity is striking. Their layout as a bridge-castle is very similar and the visual style is so as well. They are also both in the same equivalent location (the Loire Valley, famous for its castles), west of Lumiose/Paris and close to Camphrier Town/Blois.- unsigned comment from Almsivi (talkcontribs)