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Should information about Blue/Green from the manga appearing in the opening be mentioned? According to Wikipedia: "It is interesting to note that she [Green], Red, and Blue appeared in the original American Red and Blue pamphlets with their starter pokemon (she had her Squirtle, Red his Bulbasaur, and Blue his Charmander) but few knew who she was and she had her back to the reader. Also, in the beginning of the first anime series Pikachu runs between her legs (again, to the confusion of American viewers-she was never seen in the anime and was not explained, many thought she was just a Lass.)" Matkin22

No! Bulbapedia isn't reliable source on the Point of Pokemon! It's full of fake informations and hopeless speculations! I'll never believe that she's Blue from PokeSpe! Look at her and Look at Blue! They don't ever look alike! I believe in popular speculation that she's plain Lass (miniskirt, cute clothing and really Lass-ish design) I have an early Sugimori Art of Lass and I also have the early Sugimori Art of Red, Green and Blue with their Starters so I know it better. Blue is seen only from behind but she has completely different hair and black clothes. So, we can be sure that she's not Blue. She's likely to be Lass. And a small Trivia. She is actually seen in anime. She's got a few cameos in few episodes in Pokemon Center and other crowded places (like the not-so-famous "Boy in Hat"). - Maxim

Lyrics source

Okay, I don't know what's Leo's lyrics database, but it's not the source. I wrote it down myself. So stop adding it. Thanx.--ElectAbuzzzz 19:04, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Have these lyrics been checked with an official source? I thought it was "teach Pokémon to understand", not "each Pokémon to understand"... maybe I'm just tired, though. --Pie ~ 19:11, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Okay, not checked, but this one I'm 100% certain about. It says SEARCHING far and wide EACH pokemon. You know, like "Gotta catch 'em all"? Teach makes no sense.--ElectAbuzzzz 19:28, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
I hear it as "Teach Pokémon to understand the power that's inside." which makes a lot more sense to me than "Each Pokémon to understand the power that's inside." --MoonHitler 21:00, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Dragonforce?

Where did the idea of Dragonforce playing the theme song come from? 0_0 --Ricco 02:36, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Other Language Lyrics

I was wondering if there was somewhere to post the lyrics for the song in other languages? I have the lyrics for the Arabic dub theme song, along with a YouTube link. Is there anywhere on the site to post lyrics in other languages? -- Zedd 18:49, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

No, we don't include lyrics other than in Japanese and English. If enough people disagree with this, though, maybe we'll bring the issue to a vote. --electAbuzzzz 19:37, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Video?

With the use of Template:YouTubeVid, It is now possible to play YouTube videos embedded onto pages. if a admin wont mind, I would be glad to add these videos to their respectful pages. ShinyPikachu 01:37, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Several levels of totally-not-legal which would get us into TRUBL. No. TTEchidna 01:44, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Error

This article includes a bit on Meowth's missing fang in the opening. Considering that scene was used in the Mezase Pokemon Master opening, shouldn't that bit of trivia go there instead of here? Mudkipchan 16:15, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Maybe a head-on comparison should be in order. If we look at around 0:40-0:41 in this video of the US opening, we see the fang missing as Meowth jumps into the frame. The comparable scene from the Japanese opening is in this video from 0:45-0:46; however, the "missing fang" is obscured by the onscreen lyrics. (The visuals are what's important here; the needless censor bleeps in the first video and what happens when you click the soccer ball in the second are not important in the least.)
My : No, the trivia should not be mentioned on the Japanese page instead of the English one. In addition to, maybe, but definitely not instead of. Yes, I do believe the "missing fang" was there in the original Japanese iteration (UPDATE 23:07, 4 July 2010 (UTC): Caught the missing fang in a lyricless Chinese sequence using the uncut Japanese video footage), but it's actually more noticable in the US opening because of the lack of onscreen lyrics. --Shiningpikablu252 17:33, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Incorrect Lyrics?

I have listened to this song and the part after "You teach me and I'll teach you" sounds a lot to me like "All day long" not "Pokémon". Does anyone else think that? Buddy999 15:58, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

No. It's not. --electAbuzzzz 19:31, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

"Each" or "Teach"

I personally believe the line is "Teach Pokémon to understand the power that's inside." rather than "Searching far and wide each Pokémon to understand" then randomly saying "The power that's inside." Harry Blue5 00:37, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

I also think it's teach Pokémon I'll look in to it Pokemaster97 00:38, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
I have an old chapter book that has the Pokémon Theme lyrics in the front, and it says "each Pokémon". --ZestyCactus 00:41, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Just listened to the theme song like 5 times it's EACH pokémon we'll leave the lyrics the same. Yay problem solved! Pokemaster97 00:43, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Is Tracey West anything more than a fan who has the rights to write Poké novelisations? I suppose its technically the closest thing we have to an official source, though. Harry Blue5 00:47, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
The way I see it, it does make sense, it just isn't worded particularly well. I will travel. . . Searching far and wide [for] Each Pokémon [in order] to understand . . . or similar. Probably the poor wording was required to make it fit the tune and/or beat of the song. Werdnae (talk) 00:51, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
I thought Ash already knew about "the power that's inside". His fault that he was an idiot. Pikachu started off as a jerk, Charizard was also mean, so teaching them it would make more sense. Harry Blue5 00:54, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
It's been proven that its EACH. Your not making any sence. Yeah don't worry I'll ask the writers next time I go to Japan... Pokemaster97 00:58, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
The only other source I can think of is the lyrics booklet to the CD version of Pokémon 2.B.A. Master, but alas, the cassette version has no lyrics and I bought my CD used so it has no booklet. So unless someone has the booklet and it contradicts my book, we'll stick with "each". It's the only printed source we have. --ZestyCactus 01:01, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
For the record, the word is 'sense' and the Japanese writers have little control over what the dub's lyrics are. Anyway, this discussion seems to be over, since there's that book. So unless anyone has any sources to say otherwise, then we'll just have to keep it as 'each'. Harry Blue5 01:06, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
I'd like to add that I was recently researching this- and I stumbled upon the lyrics of the spanish version, quote: "Enseñe a Pokémon de entender / El poder que hay dentro" which literally translates to "Teach Pokémon to understand / The power that's inside". The verb Enseñar = "to teach". Also, I definitely believe the syntax with "teach" makes much more sense. Pookiemons 05:39, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Confirmation of lyric "Teach" from John

I got tired of this argument and decided to email the source and tracked down John Loeffler's current company and contact information. One of his assistants got back to me and relayed the message. I'll post both my query and the response below, with personal details removed, of course.

The Question Greetings John,

I am a theatre technician within the Boston area with a huge interest in video games. Approaching some of the history of a series fond to me, Pokemon, I discovered that you had written the Pokemon theme song to the English dub for the show. I wanted to both congratulate you on such great success, and ask a question that has been tearing the internet apart for years: According to your best memory of the lyrics of the song, are you "teaching Pokemon to understand" or "Each Pokemon to understand the power that's inside".

This conflict has caused massive fanbase arguments and problems interpreting which was meant. I figured what better way to find an answer to this dilemma than to contact the source directly and ask.

I appreciate your time and assistance in putting this matter to rest.

Cordially, Angela M.

The Answer

Hi Angela,

John tried to respond and for some reason the email bounced back, so hopefully you receive this one.

Despite the multiple websites that have it written incorrectly, John confirmed that the correct lyric is " TEACH "

Hope this helps!

Best,

Erin L. Assistant- Rave/Fieldhouse Music

Conclusion

Given this communication, where the writer of the song has expressed the intention that was trying to be made, I think it's safe to say that we can change this and make the world finally at peace. Silivrenion (talk) 05:04, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

I wanted to add the original file showing this information, and use it as a source for the article. I had made the change to the article, but someone reverted using the citation of Google search results, which seems dubious and counter to verifiable information. Resubmitting the changes using this source as a reference. [1] Silivrenion (talk) 22:43, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

A.J.

How do we know that the Sandshrew seen is A.J.'s? For that matter, how do we know the Kadabra in the next part as Sabrina's? --Nathan2055talk 19:54, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Lapras

Ash was seen riding on a Lapras. I know it wasn't until next season but this could be referring to Ash's temporary capture of Lapras. So I think we should list the Lapras as (Ash's). Who knows how much they've planned? For all we know they could have planned Palpitoad's capture since the before the first episode. (lol) Djulienr 21:41, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Spoilers

Should we also mention in the spoilers that Brock and Misty travels with Ash on his Journey? And we have Ash catching Bulbasaur, so why not Pidgeotto, Squirtle?--ForceFire 09:09, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Common Meter

This song contains it. Pressthebutton (talk) 01:27, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

XY remix

About the new trailer for the English dub of the XY series, if that remix of the original theme is in fact going to be the shows actual, should it get it's own page or be put here (in the same way as how the two versions of "Together" share a page)? TheFatPanda (talk) 15:18, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Here. Remixes don't get new pages. Ataro (talk) 15:45, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

I can't see him, is it just the colors?

Ok, I wanna talk to whoever said the Lucario is seen Mega Evolving in the XY English opening. I showed the opening to my Pokemon friends irl and they said they couldn't see Lucario. Yes, there is a brief moment with Mega Lucario's colors and the Mega Evolution symbol, but it could not have been confirmed as Mega Lucario unless more physical features are shown. Even I looked over and over to the moment where Pikachu uses Electro Ball and the Mega Evolution moment. Thus, it's quite uncertain if it is Lucario Mega Evolving primarily because of the colors shown. The Seeker (talk) 20:10, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

While it'd be very hard to confirm it as a Lucario by only watching the dub intro, we mainly kno it is indeed a Lucario due to the Japanese opening featuring the whole scene, where Lucario can be clearly seen. --Gabo 2oo (talk) 17:59, 18 April 2014 (UTC)