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Talk:Normalize (Ability)

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Will this make moves such as Thunder or Blizzard give STAB? For example, a Delcatty with the Normalize ability could potentially have STAB bonuses from Thunder, Blizzard, Solarbeam, and Shadow Ball? I know that wouldn't be a good moveset, it's just an example, but still. All four, despite being different types of attacks, would all receive a 1.5x bonus? Crenel 23:56, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

My guess is yes, since they count as Normal-type moves; Hidden Power can get STAB for, say, a Fire-type Pokémon if it's a Fire-type Hidden Power, so why wouldn't a Normalized Thunder or Blizzard? Diachronos 17:18, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
The only drawback is that there won't be any super-effective moves, right? ht14 17:25, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
No Super-effective moves, just STAB on everything. TESHIGIGAS 17:32, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

All moves - even in double battle?

If I use Normalize Delcatty in a double battle, and pair it with Dusknoir, will moves at the Dusknoir be normalized and have no effect? If so, I can get a free Trick Room and then several Shadow Sneaks or Shadow Punches or Toxic or Will-O-Wisp, while Delcatty Protects and Substitutes. It that possible? --Bbbbbbbbba 15:11, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

It only applies to the Pokémon with the ability Normalize. Besides, can you be clearer on what you mean? Are you using the aforesaid moves on Delcatty? ht14 15:22, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, it sounds like a Skitty would become a useless against a ghost-type, unable to fight back but able to take damage from any non-ghost moves it knows. The advantage I see is that for example if you fought a ground-type with Thunder it would still be able to hit. --*Ɣℯ№ӎօṫհ* 18:28, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Variations

Are Pixilate, Aerilate and Refrigerate really variations of Normalize? Normalize's effect seems far too different.

  • Normalize turns every move into Normal-type. How is this similar enough to turning Normal-type moves, and only Normal-type moves, into one other type?
  • The other three Abilities all have the common effect of powering up the moves in question by 30%. Normalize doesn't have this trait.

I've seen moves considered too different to be variations because their PP was different in addition to being a different type, so why is Normalize, an Ability that has a completely different effect from those three Abilities, considered a variation of them? I think that Normalize should be removed from the list of variations; this means that Normalize wouldn't have the template, the other three would be considered variations of Aerilate, and Pixilate's trivia would change slightly. I would change it myself, but I wasn't sure if there was a particular reason why it's like this and if I'm supposed to leave it as is. Thanks in advance for your help! ^^ EpicDeino (talk) 08:37, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

I've also been thinking this for awhile. Further evidence for both sides of the argument: All four are named something Skin in Japanese, but the English localization is very clearly -ize for turns-every-move-into-X-type and -ate for turns-Normal-moves-into-X-type-and-powers-them-up. I'd wait for administrative approval before chaning it, but I also totally agree that Normalize doesn't quite fit in with the other three. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 16:28, 27 February 2014 (UTC)