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Talk:May's Beautifly

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Is it worth getting a picture of Beautifly as a Wurmple or Cascoon on this page??--KukiTalk 16:42, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes. And it's Silcoon, not Cascoon. --ケンジガール 20:11, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
Well maybe not Silcoon. --ケンジガール 20:14, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

The personality section

OK, as so people know I changed the article so that it included a section of May's Beautifly's personality and it was deleted twice. Why? You say we don't need a personlity section but I beg to differ, for a start it makes the article look much more presentable and makes it easier to navigate. Also, you say that I added some speculation in the article, I did nothing of the sort. I said may's Beautifly liked the LiteBlue pokeblocks that May made for her pokemon. Fact. I said that because it likes them it must be a Pokémon that likes bitter pokéblocks. fact. Therefore it is more than safe to assume that May's Beautifly has one of the four natures that like bitter pokeblocks as it clearly likes them. It is even safe to say that it is likely that it probably has a calm nature as it even states in the article that Beautifly is more calm and mellow since evolution. So why delete the section? Wikid 20:39, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

That speculation is speculation, hitting the fallacy right at the beginning of assuming that the game mechanics work in the anime.
I don't see the problem with describing its personality as a Wurmple, though. --FabuVinny |Talk Page| 20:19, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
It's personality as a Wurmple was already in the aricle, Wikid just moved it. It doesn't need to be a seperate section. - Cassius335
But the game mechanics do appear to work in the anime. The pokeblock process appears to be the same i.e. blend it using machine and by pressing buttons. The pokeblock also has a level and a flavour and pokemon have natures too. So you see much of the stuff in the game mechanics still seem to work in the anime too. Wikid 20:39, 21 June 2008 (UTC)Wikid
The anime basically treats obeying the game mechanics as a "When we feel like it" thing. Besides, once you start using words like "assume", it stops being hard fact. - Cassius335 12:06, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
Yet we still assume that because May's venusaur has a seed in its flower that it is a female, even though no one has referred to it as a female as far as I know. However if we see a liteblue pokeblock in the anime we can't also assume that it is bitter and beautifly has a bitter-liking nature because of it. Why is this? Wikid 15:54, 23 June 2008 (UTC)Wikid
Because real-life recipies don't work like that. For all we know, May could make several Pokebocks the same colour without getting the same flavour. Light-blue Pokeblock could easily have a sweet flavour, given the right ingredients. - Cassius335 12:32, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
And you're really willing to assume that pokemon is AT ALL like real life? Seriously? Wikid
Nobody's assuming the Pokémon world is like this world. But sometimes real-life examples are needed to make a good point. TheBlazikenMaster 23:05, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Not in that way. He's saying that recipes in the real world can come out in any number of ways. However, berry blending is worlds apart from everyday cooking. Their outcome can be predicted and controlled, this is best shown by the games but also shown in the anime in the episode where may first learns about pokeblock. Obviously the pokeblock in the anime have levels and flavours and since pokemon also have natures and likes/dislikes governed by those natures then it is perfectly OK to say that a liteblue pokeblock in the anime is the same as one in the games and thereofre the infor I provdided about May's Beautifly is true. Also about the anime treating the game mechanics as a "when we feel like it thing", well if that's the case they obviously feel like it now and therefore this just goes to prove my point.Wikid 14:39, 1 July 2008 (UTC)Wikid

No it isn't. There are too many assumptions (and uses of the word "obviously") in your theory. - Cassius335 21:02, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Ok firstly, there aren't really any assumptions involved, if anything they're deductions based on facts from the anime and the game mechanics. And secondly, what kind of argument is that? "You can't have this sections because you say obviously too much" I'll say obviously as much as I want. Wikid 23:25, 2 July 2008 (UTC)Wikid
Sure you can, but it shouldn't be in the article because what is obvious to you might not be so obvious to someone else. TheBlazikenMaster 23:30, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
OK point taken, but I still stand by my point about the deuctions not assumptions. Wikid 00:20, 3 July 2008 (UTC)Wikid
You said "if that's the case they obviously feel like it now". That is an assumption. - Cassius335 23:24, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
But they DO feel like it now, why can you not understand that's a fact? They're abiding by the game mechanics when it comes to berry belnding so they do feel like it now. Therefore it wasn't an assumption. Wikid 00:02, 4 July 2008 (UTC)Wikid
Because the anime, IIRC, didn't go into the mechanics. The berry machine showed up, but the Pokeblock recepies were never given in any detail; the Pokeblock's were simply tasty or not-tasty, their relation to nature's were never discussed and contest stats weren't brought up at all. - Cassius335 00:10, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Actually when May made her first berries she did state what berries she used (hence the recipe). The level and colour of the pokeblock was also shown (that level being 27). Most of her pokemon hated it except beautifly and Kelly also said how he pokeblocks are good for your pokemon in contests hinting at natures and how they affect taste. And thats not forgetting that they also used the berry machine. Just because contest stats weren't brought up doesn't mean they aren't there. So thats how the game mechanics fit in. Wikid 18:34, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Spinning Silver wind

In AG035 Beautifly is using silver wind while spinning making this nice silver tornado in the appeal round then it does the same thing again in AG051 but this time as an attack to hold the opponent down and was also used in the grand festival so I thought maybe we can put that as an improvised move?

Lol you saw it force fire and you still didn't respond?? Anyway I think it's not worthy just if it does get approved just link it to the episode pages where it was used.RBK (talk) 07:01, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

What is a force fire and why did it get taken off my info was true and how do people put pictures on bulbapedia becuz i had a picture to go with it i seriously need help- unsigned comment from Randis14 (talkcontribs)

I'm Force Fire. I removed it because you didn't get a response when you put it in. And yes, I was meant to respond earlier but I was caught with other things. You can upload pictures at the archives which is locked at the moment. As for the move, I haven't seen it (I usually skip contest episodes) so I can't really say yes or no. Just wait and see what others say.--ForceFire 13:58, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

O ok i understand this is my first edit on a page