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The episode's only airing right now. Why was this moved on the 12th? - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talkcontribs) 13:13, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Because we found out her name before it aired. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 13:15, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
Well, how? Pokemon.com? I was under the impression we didn't trust them with names of characters of the day for upcoming episodes because they've reported them incorrectly before. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talkcontribs) 13:18, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
....But it's the official TPCi site. If we can't trust them, who can we trust? We can trust them, I say. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 13:20, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
Just kinda conflicts with what's said here. They've been wrong before, wait till it airs, and all that. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talkcontribs) 13:25, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
Considering we changed the Gen V Pokémon to their English names based on what Pokemon.com said, I think they're trustworthy. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 13:29, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
They have not been wrong during the Best Wishes series yet. So I'm letting it slide until they are. --ケンジガール 13:30, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Protection

Should this page be protected now that we know Pawniard is set to evolve??RBK 05:05, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

No, I think that is just for pages for characters Pokemon. Since Pawniard doesn't have its own page, it might be redundant to lock Georgia's whole page. Playerking95 05:09, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
How about if I make a page for Georgia's Pawniard? I just need to know how to add a page. Pressthebutton 14:24, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
Anime Pokémon pages should be approved by Kenji-girl before doing anything. --Pokemaster97 14:27, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for telling me, Pokemaster97. By the way, I'm not really good at making the complex charts, so I'll need some help. Pressthebutton 14:30, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Georgia's Pawniard Likely Did NOT Evolve

Here's the deal: Pawniard can only learn Guillotine at level 62, and Georgia's Pawniard clearly knew Guillotine when it first appeared. However, Pawniard evolves into Bisharp 10 levels before. So, how did Pawniard evolve if it knew Guillotine? Who knows, maybe Georgia caught two Pawniard. Pressthebutton 01:51, 6 April 2012 (UTC) P.S. GŌTTĀ CĀTCH THÉM ĀLL!

There is so much wrong with that logic I don't even know where to begin. OK, first, levels are disregarded in the anime. Second, even if levels weren't disregarded in the anime, nothing would be stopping Georgia from stopping Pawniard's evolution until it learned Guillotine and then letting it evolve afterwards. Pawniard don't evolve ONLY at level 52. Level 52 is just the lowest level at which they can attempt to evolve. Pawniard will attempt to evolve at all levels from 52 to 100. Third, even assuming the rest of your logic was right, Pawniard can be bred to know Guillotine at level 1. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talkcontribs) 01:54, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
Games =/= anime PattyMan 02:38, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
Are you sure about that last one? The Bulbapedia article for the species Pawniard says that the only Normal-type moves a Pawniard can know as an Egg move are Headbutt and Mean Look. Pressthebutton 14:33, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
Hmm... I don't really get that second reason, but I guess it's possible. Pressthebutton 14:35, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
Those are moves it can't already learn naturally. Natural moves will be passed down from the father when breeding. Also, please respond to everything in one message rather than making multiple messages. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 14:36, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
Edit: Actually, checked it so here's a better explanation: If you have two Bisharp that both know Guillotine, and you breed them, the offspring will have Guillotine too, because Pawniard can also learn Guillotine through level-up. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 14:41, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
Pressthebutton, by your logic, Ash's Turtwig and Torterra are different individuals since Turtwig knew Synthesis.--Den Zen 14:43, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
Likewise Ash's Charmander and Charizard Random Chaos 20:47, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
Ok, I guess all of you are right about this. I mean, Ash's Turtwig clearly evolved. Pressthebutton 16:07, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Bisharp

A bit off subject, but Bisharp deserves it's own page. Chowolun 00:32, 10 April 2012 (UTC) User:Lucario985

I'm with you. Pressthebutton 16:07, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
Our policy is to give Pokemon articles if it gets some significant amount of focus on it. All Bisharp has done is battle and has shown little to no personality, which means it's not very notable right now. Ataro 17:23, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm gonna be the one to bring it up...

Georgia's Beartic, does it deserve a page? Two influencial battles with Excadrill, a battle in the Don Battle and it helped clear all that moss, saving Iris and co. If the writing for the battles are fleshed out a bit the History section will be strong and Beartic also showed personality in each of its appearances, so what are we thinkin'? Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 12:48, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

"If the writing for the battles are fleshed out a bit the History section"... That part worries me. It may end up looking like a bit stetchy article, like we are trying way too hard to prove a point. If there is nothing much to tell then I don't see a reason to "flesh/flash" anything. Even Paul's Weavile is more notable than Georgia's Beartic. So, it is a 'no', as far as my opinion is concerned. ♫♪ エイディニズ ♪♫ 13:06, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
Doesn't every rival have a page for their main Pokémon? And besides, since this topic was last discussed, Beartic has appeared in the Junior Cup thingy too. Dilophosaurus Rex (talk) 00:30, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
The only Unova Rival (besides Goergia) who doesn't have at least 1 Pokémon with their own page is Burgundy. Beartic with its own page would be nice because there are a lot of things that could be discussed in the History Section. Torpoleon (talk) 00:34, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
Just to answer Dilophosaurus, Bianca's Emboar didn't have a page for a long time. Even if it's their main Pokémon, they aren't guaranteed a page unless they do something. Looking at Georgia's page, all of her Pokémon could get pages in my opinion. If a Pokémon has an episode focused on it (i.e. Her Vanilluxe), it could get a page. (That doesn't mean make a page for her other Pokémon. That's just me nudging the idea.) Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 01:05, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
Well, yes, that was because Bianca's Minccino did more. But Beartic is Georgia's main Pokémon AND it's done the most (by far) out of all of her Pokémon. I'd say that if Paul's Magmortar and Trip's Conkeldurr get pages of their own, then Beartic should get one too. Dilophosaurus Rex (talk) 01:27, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
You are forgetting that Georgia isn't exactly the same as Trip or Paul. They are/were the main rival of the series while Georgia is not. Conkeldurr also stood out far more than most of Trip's Pokémon. Beartic isn't that far ahead of Bisharp. Anyway, I'm thinking about it and someone has a page in the works. --ケンジガール 04:22, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Can we give Beartic a page now??RBK (talk) 17:08, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

I'm sure we'll have to. It's her main Pokémon, it was included in all of Georgia's appearances (except the Clubsplosion), and it even helped Ash and co. clear all the moss in the Ferroseed episode. It made more appearances and did more notable things than either Magmortar or Conkeldurr (both mentioned above), and if they can have pages, I really don't see why Beartic wouldn't. GamerGeek 22:16, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Japanese name origin

I think it could be drawing inspiartion the character of Asuka Langley Soryu from Neon Genesis Evangelion. Mainly because her middle name is Langley and Soryu, although not exactly written the same as the town in which Iris is a Gym Leader, has the meaning of green dragon.

Renoir (talk) 04:51, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Georgia's Vanilluxe's gender

Excuse me, but how do you know Georgia's vanilluxe is a female? Do you have any prove if she (really) is female, considering that vanilluxe have no gender difference? - unsigned comment from CallMeRandomThings~ (talkcontribs)

Maybe because Ash's Oshawott is confirmed to be male, therefore Vanilluxe is female. And Don't bring up Charla and Ash's Charizard, neither of their genders are known.--ForceFire 13:27, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
Iris said it was, apparently. I haven't seen the episode in a while. The summary. As for Oshawott, let is not forget Purrloin. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 21:06, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
Just to answer ForceFire, Charla is indeed female (she wears a pink bow, has a girl's name in both the original and the dub, and Liza even said so herself). Of course that's not relevant here, but I just thought I'd clear that up.
As for Vanilluxe, I don't recall Iris saying that she's female, and even if she did, it's most likely an assumption since Iris wouldn't know herself (like Pansage and Krokorok). But Vanilluxe was clearly in love with Axew, and Oshawott fell in love with her. It wouldn't make any sense if Vanilluxe was also male (for obvious reasons). GamerGeek 21:57, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
In the original version, Iris asks Georgia if Vanilluxe is a girl because it was flirting with Axew. Georgia replies "Yes, got a problem with that?" I would think the Pokémon's Trainer confirming it is good enough. --ケンジガール 00:34, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
If what you're saying is true, you sure have to give props to the dub for working around that... GamerGeek 14:50, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

An easily-overlooked tidbit

This is probably just a bit of an observation, but should it be noted that Georgia is the only one out of the seven Unova rivals who isn't known to have at least one badge (Burgundy has the Trio Badge, and all other Unova rivals are in fact competing in the Unova League)? GamerGeek 23:36, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

Georgia's goal isn't about getting Gym Badges though.--ForceFire 03:26, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
True, but I still thought it was worth mentioning. Besides, Burgundy nor Stephan never had any goals about that either (at least none that were explicitly stated or still standing), yet they still have badges of their own. GamerGeek 03:52, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

In Game Reference

In Black and White 2, there's a Pokéfan in the Celestial Tower named Georgia, and her only Pokémon is a Cubchoo. Could this be a posible reference to the anime character? --Zewis (29) 16:23, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

No, her name is originally Teiko. Besides, she has a Cubchoo instead of Beartic and Pokéfans are much older than Georgia.--Den Zen 16:32, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Two things about Vanilluxe

at 19:58, Iris told Georgia, "Although it's hard to admit it, Vanilluxe really saved the day. Hope you'll thank it for me." This brings up two things that are pretty much left out:

1. Iris referred to Vanilluxe as an "it" and not a "she" , so Vanilluxe's gender isn't confirmed.

2. Georgia's response was, "Well, if I get the chance." Does that not imply that Vanilluxe is no longer or going to be with her anymore (meaning that she released or gave it away)? GamerGeek 23:00, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Pokemon are always call it, regardless if their gender has been revealed or not. Ataro (talk) 00:02, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
Shouldn't we remove the gender then? I don't recall Iris calling it a "she" (at least not in the dub; I don't know Japanese, and I can't find a subbed version of the episode). GamerGeek 03:20, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
IT was called a she in the original Japanese dub. Anything said in the Japanese overrides anything said in the dub.--ForceFire 03:22, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
Ok, but that doesn't answer my second question: shouldn't Vanilluxe be in a "released" or "formerly owned" section? Georgia's dialogue at the end of the episode implied that she didn't have it anymore, and she even said she caught it to use it against Iris, yet she hasn't done so even once. GamerGeek 14:54, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Georgia's Beartic

Uh. So why is Georgia's Beartic not allowed an article, yet other rivals (with the exception of Burgundy) have at least one page for one of their Pokémon? Despite the fact it's appeared in nearly every episode Georgia has been in. --Reliジーランス? 17:30, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Someone will answer when someone with the authority to answer sees this. Please stop making substanceless edits just so you can complain about not getting an answer in the edit summary. Be patient. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 19:35, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Georgia's Beartic isn't allowed a page, yet Lucy's Seviper is allowed to keep it's page despite belonging to a Character of the Day? Also it's been 3 days and I still haven't gotten a proper answer. --Reliジーランス? 15:42, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

It's been weeks and still no proper answer, also I see there's a page for Alexa's Gogoat. Why not give Georgia's Beartic an article? It's been on the show longer and has appeared in nearly every episode Georgia has been in. --Reliジーランス? 22:16, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

That page is currently in the userspace and is thus not subject to notability guidelines. As far as I can tell, Kenji-girl (who, as Head of Anime, has the final word) has not given an opinion on it and no staff members have edited it or the Helioptile article made by the same user, so there's no indication they are aware of them yet. Please don't argue that one page should exist just because another similar one does. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 23:06, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Nobody's answering my question.--Reliジーランス? 23:07, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

I don't mind Beartic having a page. Someone made a really nice one. As for Lucy's Seviper, it appeared in the games and the manga too. The reason some have articles is not always because of what they did in the anime. --ケンジガール 04:41, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

THANK YOU. --Reliジーランス? 11:12, 25 July 2013 (UTC)