Okay, I understand that the root words apply to him; however, I don't think "vice" is meant to imply that he isn't the leader (although that later turned out to be the case). I think it's more likely to come from the definition of "vice" meaning "sin". Can we maybe chop that last part off of the trivia? --AndyPKMN 18:53, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
- I agree. The "not the leader" theory is just a Pokémon version of conspiracy theory. How could NoA know that already when Colosseum was out? His name is simply a portmanteau of "evil" and "vice" (sin). There's no other option. --Maxim 19:32, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
- I agree too. Also, the theory that he's based on Dr Robotnic seems a bit of a stretch. He's overweight and he has facial hair (which isn't even the same, or similar), that doesn't seem like enough. Unless there's some kind of official confirmation I'm missing here.... --Derian 19:41, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
How are facts about his Pokemon irrelevant? And how can I be "less specific"?
- After his shadow Tyranitar, he replaces it with an Aggron. By sheer coincidence, both Pokémon and their mega stones are version exclusives in Pokémon X and Y. Unowninator (talk) 03:58, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
- So? And both being version exclusive AS WELL as having their mega stones be version exclusive is very specific.--ForceFire 04:12, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
- It's a Colosseum character. You're talking about Mega Evolution/exclusivity, from years down the road. That's, yes, sheer coincidence, not interesting or relevant in any particular to this character. Hell, there's probably a few other similar coincidences floating around, but that doesn't make it notable, it's JUST coincidence. Just being able to draw any connection between two points does not make good trivia. Tiddlywinks (talk) 04:22, 19 April 2016 (UTC)