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This episode is NOT part of my Indigo League DVD Box Set Volume 2

What's up with that? TheBlazikenMaster 01:12, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I think they are following the order of many DVD/Video volumes of Pokemon, and thus might have many of these episodes being somewhat Out of Order (Which might ALSO explain why "Holiday Hi-Jynx" is being listed in part 3 of the Pokemon Season 1 boxed set despite it's status as a banned episode).

~~Weedle_McHairybug~~

You're right, it IS on volume 3, too bad this one didn't get included for some reason.

Ok... About the trivia segment...

Should it be worth noting that the behavior of the Fiorello Fangirls caused a certain amount of anger in some people both in and out of the Pokemon fanbase? I had to ask, Since the way those girls acted was somewhat sexist and some people were offended by it (one of these people being my Mom [actually, she was the reason as to why I even know of this horrid depictions of females (AKA, the Typical Female Anime Stereotype) and also why I am working hard to abolish it (esp. in one of my groups.)], But some people at my school as well as some friends of mine, not to mention several members of my family also felt this way.), I mean, It may not be "Carole Boston Weatherford" class news, but I feel this should at least be mentioned, since it covers a similar concept. And, well, it has a LOT to do with my participation in a certain movement to bring a certain character back.

If not, well, it's your choice

~~Weedle_McHairybug~~

PMS?

Is it worth mentioning in the trivia section that in the very first scene that Jessie appears in this episode, there is a large billboard that clearly says "PMS" on it?

I can provide a screenshot if necessary. Neniv 20:45, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Doll Set

Anyone have a screenshot of the doll set Misty wins? I though I might add the Pokémon that are on it too the trivia section. --Manga-in-a-bottle 09:06, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Adding to Debut

Lickitung (Jessie's; new, debut) Wasn't under debuts.

Contest Similarities

Ok, The Queen of the Princess Festival Contest, while it may not have been an actual Pokemon Contest, was at least similar to the Pokemon Contests that started in AG. I'll even list the similarities to you.

  • They have a four Pokemon Limit in this contest, the EXACT same limit that a Grand Festival has.
  • They had a bit of a dress up portion that all of the competitiors had to participate in (and it's implied that the finalists were decided here)
  • They had the divisions table, and the only time they EVER had a divisions table present in any sort of official competition was a Pokemon Contest. On a related note, they didn't have a scoreboard for the two competitors and their pokemon had denoting how many pokemon they had left.
  • They even described it in a way that was very similar to what a Pokemon Contest is. I'll even give the direct scene of occurence of the dialoge in question:
Emcee: Now will the contestants please take out their Poke Balls...
Misty: Huh? you want us to battle?
Jessie: You mean this ISN'T some sort of Beauty Contest?
Emcee: Oh no! The Winner of the Queen of the Princess Festival Contest must also be a skilled Pokemon Trainer! That description provided by Jessie and the Emcee matched the description of Pokemon Contests perfectly, which is the fact that it's a beauty contest and a battle at the same time.
  • Borrowing on Bad Faith has shown that Pokemon Contest prizes aren't necessarily the Ribbons, they can also have stuff like Bananas/fruit, for example. That makes it at least similar to a unofficial Pokemon Contest.

So please, don't try to edit it out again... Weedle Mchairybug 23:44, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Speculation and original research, Sorry, no. -Sketch 14:11, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
Guys, every single Trivia Section is original research, so we may have to remove the Trivia Sections in order to remove original research as well.
Heck, History of the Pokemon World is a pretty big excuse to do original research, especially with the Gen III section (They claimed that Gen I and Gen III were intermingled when the only REAL evidence that it's linked is because RSE can trade with FR/LG which is flimsy evidence at best since RSE can also link to both Pokemon Colosseum and Pokemon XD simultaneously, despite it being impossible for that to happen seeing how they are separated for at least five years, same deal with FR/LG trading with Colosseum and XD.). The only place that should get away with Original Research is the User pages, since, you know, they aren't actual articles. Anything other than that (INCLUDING Pokeshipping and other Shipping articles) cannot exist on Bulba, so trying to claim OR as a reason to remove it is flawed.
As for speculation, see the other articles that I mentioned as well, as they are riddled with them. Weedle Mchairybug 14:21, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
You comparing this battle to a contest is an opinion. I don't see it as one. Sorry, still no. -Sketch 14:23, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Toungtyd Triva?

I know this is probably old news but after Lickitung beats Pikachu in Jessie's battle with Misty, Meowth says something along the lines of the following.

"They won't be able to stop you; unless Lickitung gets tounge-tied."


Now this may seem weak BUT Toungetyd was the beta name for Lickitung and obvoiusly come from the saying Tounge-Tied.


I don't know if that is triva worthy, I just thought I should bring it up.

--TheProphetJerematic 20:58, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

The real EP043?

Wouldn' it make more sense to put this episode in chronological order with the other episodes other than when it aired? I think it'd make more sense if it was put inbetween EP042 and EP043 and since people may search EP052 for this episode maybe we can make a disambig. page? --Landfish7 14:27, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

I too think it would make more sense but, unfortunately, the people who run the site aren't the type you can reason with. As an example, I made a change to this article stating that this episode is CLEARLY chronologically prior to Attack of the Prehistoric Pokémon, since there's no sign of togepi, but my edit was reversed under the pretense that "togepi's egg MIGHT be in Brock's bag for the whole episode", ignoring the fact that all episodes, since they got the egg, clearly, show it (even when it plays no part in the episode, like Holy Matrimony. In a normal website, this would never happen, of course, but here... it's pointless. You're either on the good side of the "higher ups", and hence can force things to be your way, or you're shot down. If they remove or revert something, you might as well just leave it be, so don't expect to see any sense on this episode listing, other than the "airing dates" which vary from country to country and, pretty much, every other site already has. Raven-14 15:49, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
Actually, I'd like to apologize to the staff of this site for thinking the person who reverted my edit was one of you. I just noticed that, no, it isn't... it's just someone who decided to go into an edit war without bringing his thoughts here first. So, again, my apologies to the staff (even though I've seen dubious comments by staff members in other places of the site, but that's another matter). As for LimeGreenCharizard, if you have an issue with the edit, bring it here... you have no right to revert edits as if you owned the place. Raven-14 17:50, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
I think you need to change your attitude about this site. You don't sound like someone who wants to be here. The second trivia is clearly not about chronological order. And just like I didn't come here, neither did you before editing it in the first place. I've done a lot more on his site than you have, and I have come to appreciate the community. And I'm pretty sure I know what I'm doing. Anyway, I passed it on to the Project Anime leader, so we'll see what she says. --LimeGreenCharizard-- 21:35, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
Pfft.... I don't know. I usually like to stay away from original series squabbles since it's been a while since I've watched anything before OI. Yes Togepi's egg wasn't seen in this episode. But I don't think it's impossible for it to be in Brock's bag. Truth is, we really don't know what they planned. But it was definitely before EP049 given the circumstances.
Also, Raven, please note that anyone is allowed to add and remove content from pages. It clearly warns you of that before you save. It's not about "owning the place". I think LGC acted normally in this kind of situation even providing a reason for reverting. Though you are correct, it's always nice to ask on the talk first.
And if the original comment was suggesting that we move the page... yeah... we're not doing that. I don't even know what suggests that this is in between Showdown in Dark City and March of the Exeggutor Squad. And according to the original airing schedule, there was no episode in between. --ケンジガール 22:07, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
Out of curiosity, does anyone have a copy of the original airing schedule? (the (unsourced) Template:Rescheduled episodes‎ only lists 8 episodes, with no mention of this episode or the Farfetch'd one) I would support moving the episodes, but it would probably require the wiki to be locked like it was during the Black and White release, and around 200 episodes to be moved, relinked, etc. (and another 300 more if the AG and BW unaired episodes were also to be moved.)... Vuvuzela2010 22:47, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
Or (the easier, hassle-free way), just make a note of it in the intro. Vuvuzela2010 22:49, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
The moving sounds like a lot of unneeded work......expecially for something not completly clear or confirmed. Maybe the notes would be a better solution, or just leave them. --Pokemaster97 22:51, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
If we moved according to original schedules we never would have moved BW026 to BW037 nor would we have moved these guys. We go by what aired when, not when they would have aired. That's how they are officially numbered. Me and my peers already agreed to keep the original episodes as they are and I'd appreciate it if you dropped the discussion on moving them according to scrapped airdates. --ケンジガール 23:33, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
My greater judgement is telling me to not rehash, but I am very curious. Is the original schedule floating out there anywhere? --LimeGreenCharizard-- 01:19, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
I didnt say I was proposing that move again, I was just saying that I would support it if it were to ever happen, and that it would be a ton of work. Vuvuzela2010 19:18, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
LimeGreenCharizard, I can't find the original, but this page has the schedule the Bulbapedia one seems to be based on, as well as some info about the airing of EP052. Vuvuzela2010 22:20, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
I made a table of the estimated schedule and posted it on my user page, here. If anyone is interested. --LimeGreenCharizard-- 05:01, 15 October 2011 (UTC)