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Talk:EP022

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Only in the dub?

"The scene where Team Rocket say their motto on the big screen, as well as the scene where Ash and his friends comment about it getting canceled soon, were only in the dub. "

Was something removed to make room for that? Or was the episode shorter before?--DarkMastero 22:07, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

It was a just script edit, something different was said in the original. Blazios 22:29, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Error

"Upon arriving at Saffron City, it was clearly dark at the time of the event when Team Rocket traps Ash, Brock and Misty in a room of a building. Later, when the mysterious girl came to save them by teleporting them outside, it is clearly seen that it is morning instead of night." Is not an error. I just watched the episode. It is completely possible that time could have passed enough to make it early morning. LimeGreenCharizard 11:52, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Trivia

"Sabrina holding a doll of her younger self and using it to do her bidding may be a reference to The Twilight Zone episode Living Doll, and her ball rolling down a narrow hallway is possibly referencing the first Indiana Jones film, Raiders of the Lost Ark."

I don't think either of these are the case. There is no similarity between Sabrina's doll and the doll in that episode of The Twilight Zone other than the fact that they were both dolls that could talk and stuff. That's like saying that Sabrina's doll was a reference to the doll in Child's Play or a reference to any other "living" doll in popular culture. However, I do think that the whole fact that Ash, Misty, Brock, and Pikachu are transported to a doll house to be played with is very similar to a different episode of The Twilight Zone (which I forget the title of) where a man and his wife are abducted by giant aliens and put into a toy town. As for the Indiana Jones reference... I suppose it's possible, but not really notable. Likewise, it could be said that Sabrina using telekinesis on the psychic that brought Ash to her was a reference to Darth Vader using his "force choke" technique on that one guy in Star Wars... which I also don't think is a notable trivia fact. Dannyjenn 20:40, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

"Sabrina's Kadabra learns Confusion"

Is this really imporant enough to be listed?

Also, what about the fact that Kadabra used Psychic as well? Sure, in the games it's possible to teach an Abra Psychic with a TM, but TMs aren't even shown to exist in the anime so it's very likely that Abra wouldn't have known Psychic beforehand, and may have learned it during / after evolution as well. You may be thinking that that doesn't make sense, since Abra evolves at a lower level than it is when it learns Psychic. Well, this is all speculation, my explanation is that stuff happens in the anime that is inconsistent with the games. Some Pokémon in the anime do know attacks much earlier than they should... some even know attacks that they can't even learn in the games. The whole fact that Abra evolved without gaining any experience shows a major inconsistency with the game right there... so it certainly seems possible that Abra's move set could have been expanded to include Confusion and Psychic all at once (rather than it learning different attacks at different levels like it is in the games). Also, based on the fact that the anime isn't consistent with the games, how do we know that in the anime an Abra isn't capable of learning Confusion / Psychic before evolving into Kadabra anyway? Perhaps it learned neither in this episode and knew them both all along. Dannyjenn 02:58, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Okay, looks like someone just combined it with the fact that Kadabra evolved. I think it's better that way.

On a side note... I noticed something minor... either trivia or an error, but I don't think it's worth mentioning since it has nothing to do with Pokémon. I'll say it here anyway though... when Misty looks into that room with all the psychics then we see two psychics using Zener cards. One guesses "a circle", which is an incorrct guess since the card actually shows "a star". Here's what's odd... the "star" on the card is a hexagram or Star of David. On the real Zener cards, the star is just a regular five-pointed star. Dannyjenn 14:04, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Maybe not an error

One error listed is that Sabrina's dad says that only Ghost-types can battle the Psychic-type. I don't think that this is an error... I think that it's just a difference between the anime and the games. In the anime, there is no evidence of the Bug-type being super-effective against the Psychic-type at all. Stuff like this (especially type match-ups) seems to be listed as "errors" on many articles here, when they aren't actually as much "errors" as they are "differences". Not sure what should be done about this though (if anything). Dannyjenn 03:52, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

While looking at different articles on here, I also realized something else... this is not an error:
"The Pokédex claims that Kadabra is the Psychic Pokémon, not the Psi Pokémon."
It doesn't say "the Psychic Pokémon", it says "a Psychic Pokémon"... that's referring to him being the Psychic-type. The anime Pokédex does that sometimes. More examples include:
"Venonat, a Bug Pokémon. Its eyes function as radar allowing it to see in the dark."
"Diglett. The movement of these Ground Pokémon can be easily detected by their tracks of upturned earth."
"Psyduck, a Water Pokémon. Uses mysterious powers to perform various attacks. Psyduck constantly suffers from a headache." Dannyjenn 22:18, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Ghost/Psychic

It's mentioned that Sabrina's dad stating ghost to be strong against psychic is an error, but there is evidence to suggest that ghost was indeed supposed to be strong against psychic in Gen I, but the game makers made an error (see Ghost (type)#Trivia). Should this additional information be added to clarify that the anime may be basing this type advantage on how the game was supposed to be, rather than how the game actually was? Christophee 00:25, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Parental guidance

I think it's notable that this is the second time a gym leader's father helps Ash to defeat them; the first time being Brock's father. BlameTheMedia (talk) 07:49, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

I personally don't think that's very notable, should be in the plot section yes, but not enough for trivia. --Spriteit (talk) 11:46, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
You know, after looking around at the trivia on a lot of episodes, I've noticed quite a bit of less notable trivia. I won't add it but I still think it could be worth a mention. Trivia is defined as "matters or things that are very unimportant, inconsequential, or nonessential" after all ;) BlameTheMedia (talk) 12:36, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Pikachu's Thunder

I was watching the original version of this episode, and when just before the part where Pikachu fills the stadium with electricity, Ash tells Pikachu to use Thunder, and it does, so technically this is the episode where Pikachu learns Thunder, not Showdown at Dark City. Squirtle drink (talk) 20:41, 29 September 2012 (UTC)