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New policy!

Actually, it's the same policies as before. Except we had two. So I merged them together.

If there are problems with anything, bring them up here; the old talk pages are now archived (1, 2). —darklordtrom 05:56, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Discussion from revamp s1

Looks good. Maybe add a clarification that certain messages on user talk pages can be deleted. You have one section saying that abusive messages can be removed by any user, and the next saying don't delete any comments. Obviously the meaning as-is is that they can't remove any comments not fitting in the above category, but some users could probably use clarifiaction. You'd hope it wasn't needed, but maybe there should also be something on what is and isn't abusive. Some users could try and abuse that loophole to remove anything they don't agree with.

There's also nothing on signing or {{unsigned}}. I think I saw someone told that there's no point putting {{unsigned}} on comments more than 6 months old. That's probably the kind of thing that could be made official. And you've got "an staff member" in the "What do I not use talk pages for?" section. Werdnae (talk) 09:19, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Instead of "How do I use a talk page" how about "What should a talk page be used for". Also possibly remove the first person pronouns from the section headings. The tone in the sections is formal but the headings seem overly chatty and informal and do not strike the requisite note of awe, fear and promises of swift doom to all transgressors. However I am just nit-picking now, it looks good. My two cents, refunds available.--Beligaronia (talk) 10:33, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Needs moar of a section on talk page limits. You and I both know a certain user who abuses the talk pages by either adding some +2000 character talk page message per visit, or a three to five paragraph explaining what they did, when it can really be condensed into a single paragraph of like three sentences. To be honest, it's a little unnecessary. D:. --Psyライダー 11:29, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Limits are all very well, but there needs to be some leeway and wiggle room. Sometimes you do need to fully explain your point and justify each aspect of it, and it would seem that the wiki would suffer if people were afraid to explain their point for fear of being too long-winded and getting yelled at. That said they should always try to condense their view as much as possible without losing meaning. So in summary, strict limits are not good, guidelines and advice to simplify your point are good. My two cents, refunds available.--Beligaronia (talk) 21:13, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you all for your feedback. No idea how I forgot the signature. Keep the responses coming. —darklordtrom 11:27, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Resigning posts (discussion from revamp s2)

Don't see anything about going back to edit talk pages just to sign them and having them give the wrong timestamp - all I see is instructions on using the {{unsigned}} template. It's even on the current article on the signature policy. Either I'm missing it or it shouldn't be there. Ztobor 04:28, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Nope, that's how it should be. Thanks. —darklordtrom 11:18, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Editing comments

Is it also implied that users cannot edits their own comments, except for using <strike>, once they are placed? My example is here. --rockersk08 16:45, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes. Users should only ever be editing their comments to strike them out, correct a spelling mistake that they can't live with being there, as well as the standard other things (redlinks, etc.). Exceptions can be made of course if it is saved by accident. Generally though, users should be waiting for a response to a comment before they edit the talk page again, unless the error has changed the meaning of the comment greatly. It is extremely frustrating to type out a reply to a comment on your talk page, only to be edit conflicted because the page has been edited a dozen times to correct really minor stuff. Werdnae (talk) 02:16, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Archiving user talk pages

Can the section from this old revision be put back into the page? It clarifies more on archiving user talk pages and why they are moved instead of copying text. Should it get put back in, can it also be noted that after being moved, the main talk page needs the redirect removed? --rockersk08 01:08, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Done. —darklordtrom 08:45, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Addition to Policy?

A couple of days a user posted a long copy and pasted message about a law targeting to remove youtube fan videos, walkthroughs, and fan art. The user wanted people to spread the message and put it on other talk pages. I said this was against the talk page policy because of Do not Have lengthy discussions not related to Bulbapedia. For this, use the Bulbagarden Forums' Private Message or Visitor Message functions. Although really it wasn't a discussion because the user was the only one posting things, but would it still fall under this? Maybe it should say: Do not Have lengthy discussions or posts not related to Bulbapedia. For this, use the Bulbagarden Forums' Private Message or Visitor Message functions. Or is this not needed? Sorry for the lenthy post, but I have been thinking about this. Thanks! --Pokemaster97 21:18, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

I made a general point about not spamming. That should be a bit more broad. —darklordtrom 06:31, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Water cooler

The wikipedia link to water cooler should be removed (see here). Wildgoose-The friendly goose in town! 14:09, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Why? The link is there because it refers to the "Water cooler effect" as seen on the page it links to. Werdnae (talk) 04:49, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

6 Month Rule

"Please check the dates of a discussion before you reply to it. Unless there is good reason for revitalizing an old conversation, comments on sections older than six months old will be removed. This is because by this point the problems cited will have been cleared up."

I have often seen users removing comments older than 6 months. Sometimes, this is even when the discussion is still open and without an answer. I just think that maybe this rule should be re-written to explain that comments can be left on discussions over 6 months old if it is still open. Because making a new topic for exactly the same discussion is just pointless. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 20:58, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

A doubt

Are we allowed to delete our own comments when we consider them inappropriate? TheOriginalOne 17:47, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

If no-one has replied, yes. Ideally you are previewing and realise that your comment is inappropriate before you save the page. If someone has replied, please leave it for a staff member. Werdnae (talk) 03:20, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Cant find template

What is the welcome template? You know, the Welcome to Bulbapedia, (username)! thing? TeamPlasmaN1212 02:45, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

It is located at Template:Welcome. --Abcboy (talk) 02:46, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

i. e.

Comment on the subject of the article (i.e. "I like Ash because he has a hat")

This sentence from the policy is wrong because i. e. means "that is". The letters you are looking for are e. g., which means "in example". Spyspotter 21:45, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Broken link

The link to the forums in this section is formatted incorrectly.--Cold (talk) 05:17, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up, it's been corrected. --Pokemaster97 19:08, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

New messages

Because new messages has to be on the bottom of each talk page, could someone add it to the policy or is it already there? --Cinday123 (Talk) 04:35, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Under "Editing in sections":
"Talk pages have their discussion topics ordered chronologically into sections. When you start a new topic, create it manually at the bottom of the page or use the (+) button to do this automatically. This helps keep everything in order. Please title your section appropriately so everyone can see at a glance what you are talking about."
Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 04:40, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
So depending on the time the message was posted? --Cinday123 (Talk) 04:43, 17 March 2014 (UTC)