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If I remember correctly, can't only registered users edit Bulbapedia? Porygon-Z 17:31, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, I could have sworn I'd seen an IP or two editing as well. In which case, part of that policy is unneeded. I'll test if my IP can edit... -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 17:39, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
If you did, it must have been a long time ago. You can't edit BP at all unless you have an account and log in. --Martonimos((Talk)) 18:39, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Hmm

Is it okay to include templates such as {{Tt}}? Posted by the Θρtιmαtum♏Talk|Links02:07 11 May 2008

Link templates are fine, as long as the signature itself isn't a template. TTEchidna 03:04, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
Really, the only problem is templates that aren't or can't be protected; simple things like the {{u|username}} is fine, because you don't need to worry about those getting updated and bogging down the server by re-caching stuff. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 05:19, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Images

Can images be used if they aren't taller than the height of the text? --Shiny Noctowl 23:01, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Nope. As per the policy, All signatures will be text-only and not exceed 80 characters on-screen when rendered. An image isn't exactly text-only...--Shiningpikablu252 23:24, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Why are images forbidden even when they don't stretch the text lines apart?
Also, look at my comment here. --Shiny Noctowl 23:27, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Images cause a tiny bit more server load, and when lots of people use images in signatures, it gets pretty heavy, pretty quickly. There's also the issue of animated images, which are even bigger. And lastly would be normal sprites, which are generally used for actual articles, suddenly being used everywhere (making them hard to update, etc). All in all, it's not a big load, but it adds up. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 04:05, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Do they still cause a bit more server load if you type in the URL of the image rather than the image code? --Shiny Noctowl 13:21, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
I don't know any way to test it, so I can't say exactly. I do know that more images on a page = more loading time... and also, since the images are all on the same server, it'll end up using bandwidth no matter how you link it. Much in the same way that you could cause server load if you linked to Bulbapedia images on a different website.
All in all, I don't think how you link to the image will make any difference, seeing as the wiki-coding for the image is basically a shortcut of a direct link (in the way that MediaWiki works). -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 17:12, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Wouldn't using an image that's on a different server eliminate the load? --Shiny Noctowl 15:03, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
I wouldn't know on that exactly, unfortunately. Let's not forget that the no-images clause is twofold; not just server stress (because, honestly, I don't think it causes that much stress on it's own). The second reason is that images can be distracting; in extreme cases, the old signatures with massive images, and the popular animated sprite images; to a lesser extent, multiple small sprites in a signature. It makes simple talk pages get cluttered much faster then they should.
But on that note, pages with lots of images on them will load slower, no matter where the images are linked from. While this might not cause server lag in and of itself, it does cause talk pages with lots of activity to load slower then most pages. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 15:12, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
I agree with the slower loading, since I was bored and browsing here with the Nintendo DS Browser. Some talk pages nearly caused it to die. :X Gywall(Talk) 15:15, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
What about small images that aren't distracting and wouldn't take very long to load that are on another server? --Shiny Noctowl 15:16, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
If there's enough images, it doesn't matter how small they are. And if everyone's allowed to use small images, then there will rarely be just one small image on a page. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 04:27, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
But signatures are boring without images. --Shiny Noctowl 19:17, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
Yup. Because when everyone has animated mini-sprites of Palkia, Dialga, and Regigigas in their sigs, it's so easy to tell them all apart. So much easier than when we have text-only and people actually distinguish themselves in creative ways. --Martonimos((Argh|Blargh)) 19:32, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
Ok, i know im commenting on an old subject, but how come i've seen people with images in their signatures? --"FiMbUlWiNtEr2O|2" 22:30, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
Normally when you see images in signatures that is because the comments were left before they were banned. This policy was only implemented in May 2008. Any comments from before then may have a signature which has an image in it, as it wasn't against the rules at the time. Werdnae (talk) 01:21, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Unsigned

We never had to put SUBST on the unsigned template, and it's not like it's gonna destroy the website if it is edited, just protect the Unsigned template~Pokemaniac102 20:01, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Now that it's protected, I think someone should fix the SUBST thing, we never used SUBST anyway~Pokemaniac102 20:10, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
It was never protected before? >.<
Anyway, SUBST: or not doesn't make a big difference. It's the same result either way. I just listed the SUBST: method because it's a good habit to get into, keeps pages nice and simple. You can still use the template regularly if you like. The SUBST: isn't part of the rules, just a part of the instructions. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 20:16, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

?!?!?!

"Keep your signature simple; you've got a whole user page to introduce yourself in."

No you don't. Userpages are blocked for no reason. --Shiny Noctowl 13:25, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

They'll be unblocked someday. >.< It's the Θρtιmαtum♏Talk|Links13:25 29 May 2008
I wrote the policy to fit the way the wiki works, not the way it's currently working. I wouldn't want to encourage people to list their favorite Pokémon in their signature just because they can't currently edit their userpages. :D -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 17:09, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
They aren't blocked for no reason SN. They're blocked because some people (I'm not mentioning any names) contribute more to their own userpages than to the main space. Maybe some people should contribute more to the main space once in a while. Hopefully they'll figure out a way to limit the number of edits one can make to a userpage. I say just block them if they edit there page too much. --ケンジガール 03:27, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

False policy

You know, when I was "warned" for a signature that didn't adhere to the policy (like, months and months ago), I actually checked it. And I read it closely. Nothing then was said that a signature MUST reflect one's username. And nothing now still says it. Either add something to that effect, or I'm going to go back to being simple Luna Tiger and you can't say crud, because it's not officially apart of the policy, because "recognizable" doesn't automatically mean "it has to reflect your username". Thank you. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 02:07, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Good catch; the rule was an official part of the policy, but somehow, didn't make it onto the policy page. I've written it in now. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 12:41, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Redlinks

Why must I link to my userpage when it has no content and is redlinked? Isn't linking to my talk page, a place of discussion, is much more appropriate? -- THE TROM 01:39, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Just write "Hi" or something on your User page, I don't know. Wait, just put those ridiculous, rebellious Userboxen on it! --DialgaRULES 02:27, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
It's simply easier to link to a user's main page over their talk page, and in most cases, users have information on their userpage, not on their talk... obviously, there are special cases (such as yours), but I'd rather not make the policy even more confusing to reflect that. In your case, I simply won't ask you to edit your signature, it's not hurting anything.
Hmm, but on that note, I think I'm going to edit the Userpage policy a bit. I think users should be allowed to make their userpage a redirect to their talk page, if they have no content to put up. It's fairly common practice on other similar wikis, and the only reason nobody's done it here is because, well, nobody's done it here, and it's hard to tell if it's okay or not. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 13:57, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
Hum, nothing to edit. It's not disallowed on the policy. If anyone complains about it, let me know and I'll try to work it out. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 13:59, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

t - A - l - k ?

I sincerely apologize if this is not worthy of a whole section, but in the example, is it supposed to have a capital A? It looks like a typo to me. -- PokémaniacJohn (talk) 06:02, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

It's just an example, it could be written TALK T@lk TAlk, etc, it's the person's choice really. Jellotalk 06:07, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Colors for signature

What colors can be put in for your signature? Just wondering. ----Sparen (talk) 21:12, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

If you are using names then it's just the dozen or so defined in html. Aqua, black, blue, fuchsia, gray, green, lime, maroon, navy, olive, purple red, silver, teal, white and yellow (there may be a few others too). Alternatively you can use a hex code (#XXXXXX) instead of a name, and get pretty much whatever colour you want. Werdnae (talk) 21:36, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Query

Are signature templates allowed if subst'd? The rationale - 'a changeable signature template can cause server stress when changed, and may be a target for vandalism' - doesn't seem to apply. - signed comment from GoldenCelebi (pedia talknews talkarchives talk) 17:26, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

I was wondering about this myself. I would assume (not being staff, of course) that a subst'd page should be fine, but I really don't know... Schiffy (瀬藤健二) (Talk Contribs) 06:34,1/5/2014 (UTC)

Timestamps

Since I'm not sure and sort of just plugged this into my preferences without really checking first, is there any major problem (policy-wise) with my signature having a timestamp coded into it (using {{SUBST:#time: H:i,n/j/Y}}), resulting in my only needing 3 ~'s to sign with a stamp? I've noticed it doesn't really transition well when using {{Welcome}}, so I wanted to make sure that it wasn't an issue in any other regard. Schiffy (瀬藤健二) (Talk Contribs) 06:34,1/5/2014 (UTC)

User page/Userpage inconsistency

The Seedot calls it a userpage, while the rest of the policy calls it a user page. I believe the Seedot should have its formatting for userpage changed. Pikachu Bros. (talk) 13:19, 4 April 2014 (UTC)