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I am a somewhat new editor. I have mainly done small edits before, and this is the first time I have "improved" an article. If you or someone else could look at it and tell me if is adequate, I would appreciate it. Thank you [[User:Tmeyer16|Tmeyer16]] ([[User talk:Tmeyer16|talk]]) 13:54, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
I am a somewhat new editor. I have mainly done small edits before, and this is the first time I have "improved" an article. If you or someone else could look at it and tell me if is adequate, I would appreciate it. Thank you [[User:Tmeyer16|Tmeyer16]] ([[User talk:Tmeyer16|talk]]) 13:54, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
:Looks pretty good for the most part. Your use of link templates is awesome :) the only thing to remember is to use "its" instead of "it's", but that's just grammar. Keep up the good work ^o^ [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 00:52, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
:Looks pretty good for the most part. Your use of link templates is awesome :) the only thing to remember is to use "its" instead of "it's", but that's just grammar. Keep up the good work ^o^ [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 00:52, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
::Thanks! I looked at other, more complete pages instead of guessing. I'm also reading the manga online and will hopefully be doing more. I'll make sure to fix my grammer.[[User:Tmeyer16|Tmeyer16]] ([[User talk:Tmeyer16|talk]]) 14:47, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

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Glitch pokémon pages

Thanks for helping me on the cleanup of this mess, and thanks also for noticing that this template has the names ordered by their hexadecimals. Still, there's something I want you, a staff member that doesn't often contribute to this type of pages, to notice: when adding pokémon there, please leave 7 per line, for it to have a normal size. That means the <br>'s have to be moved. Thanks. TheOriginalOne 22:38, 21 July 2013 (UTC)


I think that this user may be the same as this user who was blocked earlier today. Their usernames are almost identical minus the newer accounts addition of Unova. --It's Funktastic~!話してください 22:51, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

I'll leave it for now...despite the similarity, both accounts have different IP addresses and are not in the exact same location. :S --ZestyCactus 16:05, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

The Pokemon Adventures main characters template

On the template that lists the main characters of Pokemon Adventures, it seems that after Rakutsu and Faitsu were added to the BWB2W2 section, someone made an attempt to middle-justify all the text inside each rows since with the addition of two more new characters in the BWB2W2 section, a lot more space was allowed. However, it looks like only the RGBY/FRLG row was middle-justified. All others are still left-justified. Do you know how to fix this? Or if admins only can fix it, can you take care of it? I do think that middle-justified looks much better but might as well complete the project. Arceus101 (talk) 20:30, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Oh and also, is there a reason why there hasn't been any info on Bulbapedia about the Mt. Silver training chapters? (Besides, of course, the articles about the chapters themselves.) Is it because there is no place to put them since they aren't incorporated into a specific arc or volume yet? If that is the case, then a solution could be to place relevant summaries of the chapters right after the GSC section of the characters who were involved (Red, Gold and Pika). That is, until the two special chapters are incorporated into a specific arc (that is, IF that happens, which I think it will since it's not like Kusaka to just leave out a chapter with no home, look at what he did with the Escape chapter). Arceus101 (talk) 20:35, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
I fix it so that everything is middle-justified. — Reshi643 21:23, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
Kay, thanks. :) Arceus101 (talk) 22:12, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
Most likely nobody knows where to put the info on character's pages, etc, since nobody knows for sure where it is in chronological order. Anything you can fit in though that's not speculation is good. --ZestyCactus 16:07, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

About the Ruby & Sapphire section...

Perhaps it would be better to just delete this page and add its contents to the RS section on this page? I feel like there are two pages relevant to the RS timeline and only one is necessary, and considering that the main Pokemon Adventures timeline page is, well, the main page, it would look better if the two pages were merged. Arceus101 (talk) 01:03, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

I wouldn't have a problem with it... I left it separate at this time since we already had that page and it was keeping the main one from being huge. But merging them is a fine idea too. --ZestyCactus 16:07, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
Okay, I created this page in my userspace to test out the format that I suggested to you. Feel free to edit it any way you want and please correct any mistakes you spot. I'm sure that there will be some. I'll do the RS section first (using this page as a reference) and then I'll get to Emerald, which will be a tad more difficult because there is no reference of dates so far (but if you want to, you can get started on the Emerald section). Please give some feedback as this is an idea that I developed on my own. Thanks! Arceus101 (talk) 02:10, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
Quickly adding something here. The last volume of the Emerald arc does reference what days the events took place throughout the chapter. ht14 02:27, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
Okay I didn't know that. Thanks. I just looked at it and I was able to make the edits for the Emerald section a lot quicker than I expected to. I just have one uncertainty: where exactly the transition between July 5 and July 6 took place. I assumed that it took place between the transitions between Volume 28 and Volume 29 which is what I put but that's a dangerous assumption and it's probably wrong. If any of you two happen to know at what point the date transition took place for certain, then can you make the edit? (Or confirm my edit, if that's the case.) Thanks. Arceus101 (talk) 02:55, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
I really like the format you've used so far, I'll get back to you on the dates once I come back from holiday and can look into it better. --ZestyCactus 02:17, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Volume 46 rounds

Can you move the rounds ABW20-ABW28 to PS480-PS488? Those are the rounds that were included in the recently-released Volume 46. Thanks! Arceus101 (talk) 23:37, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

All done ^o^ --ZestyCactus 20:17, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
Okay, thank you! And btw, is there a particular reason why all those Pokemon Adventures round pages are protected? It's not like anyone's gonna bite. :/ Arceus101 (talk) 00:10, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
It's been a rule to move-protect all epicoded pages. I guess it's to prevent vandalism against a high traffic page and some such things. (Probably moreso for anime than manga but ya) --ZestyCactus 00:03, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Pokémon Try Adventure characters

I was able to create the pages for all of the main characters of Pokémon Try Adventure. Can you fill in the info about them from volumes 2 and 3 on their pages? PattyMan 02:35, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Yes, no problem! I am going on holiday for a week with no access to a scanner but I will do it when I come back :) --ZestyCactus 20:14, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
Okay. PattyMan 21:30, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

What to do with certain events

I asked you this before but it got archived before you probably saw it so I'll ask you this again. What should we do about events that take place several years prior to a certain chapter but not necessarily before the series started? For example, some user added in info about Ruby and Sapphire meeting when they were kids which, if that user is correct, took place after Red won the Pokemon League. Which means that it was NOT pre-series so it does not belong in that section. What should we do about events like those? Should we add them between chapter sections at which point the event most likely took place? (So in the case of Ruby and Sapphire meeting as kids, it would belong between the RGB section and the Yellow section.) I can't think of all these events off the top of my head but some examples of these that I can think of are the birth times of the younger main characters. So for example, if my math is correct and only assuming that BW takes place three years after Platinum, Black and White would have been born the same year as the RGB chapter and Rakutsu and Faitsu would have been born the same year as the RS chapter. So what should we do about events like those that I mentioned? Arceus101 (talk) 01:20, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

One thing that COULD work is, if it's necessary, between chapters putting in a section that says "During the time between *previous chapter* and *following chapter*" or something like that. Some events like that that I can think of is between HGSS and DP, Cynthia's Gabite evolved into Garchomp, between GSC and DP, Dia and Pearl saw the news about the Red Gyarados and the Jigglypuff and Clefairy show that was mentioned in the Red Special Chapter (and speaking of which, that would be a good place to mention the events of the Red Special Chapter), between the RGB chapter and the Yellow chapter, Yellow acquired a Doduo from her uncle and between the Yellow chapter and the GSC chapter, Yellow acquired Chuchu. Arceus101 (talk) 01:28, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
@Arceus101, what you propose might just work... the question is what type of header should be used. ht14 01:57, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
My response must have got buried in the archive lol. What you've proposed sounds fine. Using History of the Pokémon world as an example, a header something like "After the Gold, Silver & Crystal chapter" in between the GSC chapter and the RS chapter (or whatever appropriate chapter) would work well. --ZestyCactus 02:15, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
Okay I'll make the due edits. Thanks for your input guys! Arceus101 (talk) 04:39, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
Alrighty, I have finished with the RS and Emerald sections!!! When you're back from your holidays, Zesty, can you look at my page and make sure that all the dates are correct before I transfer its contents to the timeline page? I can use your help too, ht14. Arceus101 (talk) 18:56, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
No problem. I'm here until tomorrow so you'll probably hear back from me by Monday or Tuesday ^^' --ZestyCactus 14:37, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
Actually you know what just mainspace it for now. I think it looks pretty good and if there's any mistakes I didn't catch, someone else might notice them if it's in the mainspace. I'll still take a longer look at it when i'm home ^^' --ZestyCactus 14:40, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
Alrighty I just moved it. Do you think we can delete the 80-day challenge timeline page now? All of its contents are now on the official Pokemon Adventures timeline page and not to mention, I found a couple mistakes on the 80-day challenge page. Arceus101 (talk) 23:47, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
If 100% for sure all the content has been duplicated on the timeline page, then ya we can delete it. --ZestyCactus 02:56, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

(resetting indent) Sorry, just saw this. Erm... I'm on hiatus at the moment... I'll probably be free in three weeks... ht14 03:53, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Shiny Druddigon

We have custom sprites for few of Shiny, like the Red Gyarados or legendary beasts. And that Druddigon... well it's featured in Dare da, so yeah, it uses sprite, the normal one. Should it stay that way? Marked +-+-+ (talk) 14:09, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Category question

For this list, can I changed the category from each chapters to Category:Pokémon_Diamond_and_Pearl_Adventure!_chapters to match with the list? — Reshi643 03:01, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes please :) --ZestyCactus 03:16, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
Done, you can delete the old category, if you want to. — Reshi643 03:37, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

List of Pokémon Pocket Monsters chapters

For this list, I have two questions:
1) For the Volume 10 chapters, the (Japanese:) and the infobox don't match, is there a reason for it?
2) For Volume 14, is it alright to leave the English title column to match with the rest? — Reshi643 03:05, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Sorry for the slow response. For volume 10, it might be a discrepancy between the English translation and the Japanese version's titles being translated into English. I don't have the English version of that volume so I'm not sure, sorry. For volume 14, leave it with English title column (empty) for now as that volume was translated by Chuang Yi so there are English titles to be added eventually, just nobody knows them yet. Thanks! --ZestyCactus 00:37, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
Sorry about the redlink, I moved the page, so that, if there is a problem with it, someone can fix it without having to find it on the userspace. — Reshi643 00:44, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
No problemo I found it okay ^^' Good idea since otherwise the article is perfect as far as i can see :D thanks! --ZestyCactus 00:45, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Hood Man

Soft redirect instead? ht14 03:52, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Up to you if it's a big enough spoiler ^^' I'm not opposed to it if you feel it's necessary. --ZestyCactus 00:37, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Important Mewtwo Strikes Back! manga info deleted

Remember when I asked for permission to add an unofficial external link to a summary of the Mewtwo Strikes Back! manga? Well, now someone has removed that link to the only existing summary of that manga (as far as I know, at least). According to the user that removed the link, it leads to a "dead page redirect with install of Candy Crush Saga". I don't know how it was back when he removed the link, but the site the summary is on is perfectly working and clean now. Can you please revert it back? Thanks. PokeAwesome94 (talk) 18:16, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Ok I will add it back in. Thanks for letting me know. --ZestyCactus 00:37, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Why Hood Man should not be a soft redirect.

I see that you gave Ht14 the permission to keep the Hood Man page and link to Colress with a soft redirect. I have to ask you: why? There's no real reason for it. The only reason I made the page in the first place was so that I can have information to dump on the Colress page when it gets revealed. Now that he's confirmed to be Colress, there's no reason to have the page because "Hood Man" doesn't exist anymore. He was barely a separate character. Here's the reasons why it shouldn't need to stay.

1. They made no effort to hide who he really is. Pryce was a frail old man. In addition to his status as a good guy in the games, you wouldn't expect him to be the Masked Man. Archie was a surprise because he had already been defeated. And Guile revealed his goal just shortly before revealing himself. Colress? He went on and on about research and talked a lot about bringing out the strength in Pokemon. He even uses the same Pokemon. Compare with Pryce, who only shared Delibird with his fake identity and Archie, who didn't use any personal Pokemon until just a short time before he revealed his identity. Hood Man was also connected to Team Plasma. Compare to Pryce, who has no connections to Team Rocket in the games and Archie, who didn't have any connection to any teams in his time as Guile Hideout.
2. Hood Man didn't last that long. Compare to the Masked Man, where the time between his debut and reveal was 69 chapters. Emerald was shorter, but Guile's reveal took 17 chapters. At least he has the excuse of being a character who was already introduced. Hood Man's reveal took 11 (at least for the magazines). But Colress doesn't have the excuse of being a character that debuted before.
I hope you think this over, Zesty. Thank you for your time. Ataro (talk) 05:35, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi Ataro~ I was sort of indifferent about it when I talked to ht14 originally since while I didn't really think of it as a killer spoiler the way I would for, say Sammy or Mayor Es Cade (or Masked Man for that matter), I told them to go ahead only if they thought it was soooo neccessary for covering the spoiler. ^^' looking at it again though I guess it might not be needed? Maybe just the {{Spoilers}} at the top of the Adventures section will do. it would probably be better to avoid too many soft redirects. ^^' anyway I guess you have my permission to un-redirect it :P --ZestyCactus 16:35, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
So sorry about any confusion that may have caused... but yeah, a {{Spoilers}} template should suffice... ht14 23:29, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Manga To-do list

Hey, Zesty. I wanted to know if it would be alright to add a few things to the To-do list on the Project Manga page since I don't think that they will be a one person job and I don't want to add anything that might cause problems. The first was if next to the line on the manga stubs if it could mention checking them to confirm that they are still stubs since quite a few of the early articles do not seem to belong on the category anymore. The second was if a line could be created about adding the {{VolumePrevNext}} template to all of the manga articles since quite a few of the manga articles actually use them. Thank you for your time. --Super goku (talk) 07:55, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

The stubs might be a good one. I know sometimes I see articles that are complete but still marked as stubs. Or articles that are complete except for one section needing more detail, which needs {{Incomplete}} rather than {{Stub}} sometimes. I'm confused about the second one, is {{VolumePrevNext}} not used in some volume articles? D: it should be! Or are you suggesting it should be specifically mentioned in the Manual of style? --ZestyCactus 16:35, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
Sorry for the late reply. I sort of forgot about this. ^.^" Sadly, I cannot remember what I meant about {{VolumePrevNext}} since it seems to already be on all of the volume articles and there is nothing similar on the chapter articles. Sorry for any confusion. --Super goku (talk) 06:04, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Incomplete translations

In the case of moves with incomplete translations such as Water Gun (only showed ずでっぽ being announced) and a move related to scratching (only showed ひっか being announced) in Pokémon Zensho, should I discount those as the Pokémon not officially using the move? I already removed the information about Satoshi's Charmander using the moves related to scratching and Shigeru's Squirtle using "Water Gun" because of that. PattyMan 13:58, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

I'm guessing yes. PattyMan 01:05, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
Use your best judgement but I'd lean towards "don't count them". Sorry for the slow reply ^^' --ZestyCactus 23:20, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Volume 47 rounds

Can you move the pages ABW29-ABW35 into PS489-PS495? Sorry I was late on getting you to this, school just started for me and I've been more busy than I would have been if it was still summer break. Same reason for just being inactive in general. But yah, can you please move those rounds I listed? Thanks. Arceus101 (talk) 01:45, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Official art for main characters

Oh and one more thing that's been bugging me for ages. Is there not a single place on the Internet where an official art for the more recent main characters (the Sinnoh and Unova Dexholders) has been revealed where a certain body part of theirs is not covered by a logo or another character or something like that? All the older main characters seem to have official art on their pages but not the more recent main characters. And also, Crystal's official art needs a redesign as well, looking at her new outfit. With the recently released Pokemon Adventures posters, there has got to be some usable official art that we can use. I'm no graphic designer (I'm a Java programmer :3) but one thing that *maybe* could work is if the official arts of the newer characters revealed all their body parts but in separate images, then could those body parts be integrated into one official image? For example, one of Crystal's new design has Silver blocking out a part of her legs but there are other images out there that reveal the parts of Crystal that were blocked out earlier (but of course, other parts of her body are now blocked). So could a graphic designer move the initially covered parts of Crystal and move them to their respective locations? Thanks again. Arceus101 (talk) 01:45, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Okay I JUST saw this after posting this thread on your talk page. It looks like someone replaced Faitsu's art with her "official" art, or at least the parts that were actually revealed. It may not be as perfect as the ones of the older Dexholders but still it's better than nothing. Do you think it would be a good idea to do that same thing with the other Dexholders as well? Arceus101 (talk) 01:52, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
Uh, if it's the same artwork but got letters covering up in different places, I suppose it could be merged together if someone was really pro at Photoshop or whatever. If it's 2 different artworks though, no way. I think some of the side game characters have the same scenario... I got a lot of the official artwork for characters from Pokémon Card GB2 from the player's guide but omg letters covering everybody up XD otherwise, something like on Faitsu or Rakutsu's pages would be awesome. --ZestyCactus 22:59, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

New Chapter pages

We're in the middle of changing "Synopsis" to "Plot" for every single anime episode and manga chapter. We have already moved the Incomplete synopsis template to {{incomplete plot}}. When creating these articles, would you be able to create the article utilizing Plot instead of Synopsis? It would create less work in the long run (and trust me, after being the one who went through the first 7 seasons of the anime, any help is extremely appreciated). MaverickNate 20:41, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Sorry Nate, I hadn't realised that we were officially switching it over by now. I will do that in the future (and I can help out with some of the existing manga pages) thanks for the heads-up. --ZestyCactus 16:06, 13 September 2013 (UTC)


I am a somewhat new editor. I have mainly done small edits before, and this is the first time I have "improved" an article. If you or someone else could look at it and tell me if is adequate, I would appreciate it. Thank you Tmeyer16 (talk) 13:54, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Looks pretty good for the most part. Your use of link templates is awesome :) the only thing to remember is to use "its" instead of "it's", but that's just grammar. Keep up the good work ^o^ --ZestyCactus 00:52, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
Thanks! I looked at other, more complete pages instead of guessing. I'm also reading the manga online and will hopefully be doing more. I'll make sure to fix my grammer.Tmeyer16 (talk) 14:47, 27 September 2013 (UTC)