User talk:VioletPumpkin

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Thank you, and have a good time editing here!   --ZestyCactus 02:19, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Rayquaza/Alola Exeggutor

Sorry about that. To find the heights of Dragon-type Pokemon I was using Veekun's automated sorting tool, and I forgot that there are also Gen VII Pokémon to consider that Veekun hasn't implemented. My apologies. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 15:36, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

No problem, it was a pretty easy mistake to make considering how recent the information is. VioletPumpkin (talk) 16:06, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

ORAS order

I saw you reverted my edits while I ordered moves correctly respecting the ORAS order. Please check the actual ORAS order before reverting to edit with moves listed in radom order. Jeangabin666 (talk) 08:45, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Please pay more attention to the columns. The left column is for XY, and the one to the right of that is the ORAS one, which is the one the moves are sorted by by default. In the case of Thief on Mightyena, it really does learn the move at Level 1 in ORAS, and learns it at 57 in XY. In the case of Headbutt on Linoone, it learns the move twice in XY, and only once in ORAS. The duplicate one is listed as N/A in the ORAS column, and the convention currently is to list all of those at the end since they're not actually part of the ORAS level-up set. Flygon's moves are the same case as Linoone. I've personally checked all of these in ORAS and found no discrepancies with how it was before. There could be a case for moving the N/A-in-ORAS moves to the top instead, but since there are many more Pokemon than just these two with this standard, you should bring that up with the Editorial Board if you're interested. Hopefully my explanation is sufficient. I'll be reverting your edits, but feel free to ask more questions if you need to. VioletPumpkin (talk) 15:13, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

In fact, all the articles list moves learned thanks to heartscales at the top. And not only gen VI moves, but all previous generation listings too. Also, if you look at the top of the two columns, there are small arrows. When touching at those arrows, the moves will automatically be in the proper order: which is moves learned thanks to heartscales at the top. I suggest you to check once again how moves are listed on other pages/gen. Jeangabin666 (talk) 16:58, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Your edits are correct VioletPumpkin. Jeangabin, if you actually paid attention to what your are editing, Linoone and Flygon do not learn those moves in ORAS, hence why it's directly at the bottom of the list. As for Mightyena, you changed Mightyena's learnset to that of the XY order when it should be in ORAS order.--ForceFire 17:12, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Your research on moves

Thanks, honestly! Well, I have a source that I personally feel is very much reliable, and one of the few resources that have current Gen VI data as well. I began to doublecheck things that contradicted what we have (had), but stopped after a few talk page comments I made, the gist being that we're sloppy and they're detailed. I talked to Tiddlywinks, who apparently wants to check the source for credibility or pass it on to staff to do so, and once we're good, I intend to correct moves we have incorrect or incomplete. It might take a while, though, and might also need to be coordinated with a renovation of parts of the statistics and power articles that's also on Tiddlywinks' list (that also contains all other sorts of stuff), but I hope that we'll be able to make Bulbapedia more reliable soon.

FYI, the source confirms everything you tested, and says that Thousand Arrows does not increase in power. I cannot test it in-game either, and therefore will not edit it in already.

That said, you might be interested in this, which I guess might come handy once we're at the articles anyway. And if you have looooots of spare time, you might be willing to use Fissure on diggin Pokémon to see how you will reliably not kill them (see Talk:Fissure (move)#Dig interaction) :P Nescientist (talk) 18:17, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for some of these sources! I'll probably take a closer look at them later - probably once I get through at least some of the massive pile of Super Mystery Dungeon things that need doing, unless I notice something through recent edits. That said, for what it's worth, I do tend to find the research done/posted on Smogon in recent years, which is then passed on to Showdown, to be reliable (I chipped in a bit right after the release of XY and found the things posted by at the very least the more prolific researchers to be reliable). VioletPumpkin (talk) 19:16, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

It's always good to do what you're into at the moment anyway; I didn't write here to draw your attention away from other things. I primarily wanted to thank you for testing things I had already noticed we (presumably) had wrong, and also inform you on things you may be interested in but not aware of. And, possibly, also keep you from testing things we may have reliable sources for. If you have time, though, of course I wouldn't exactly oppose additional input (or just explicit affirmation) for ideas like the Effect section proposal. Nescientist (talk) 19:52, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

I understand, thanks again for bringing those things up, since I wasn't aware of them. :) I agree with everything I see in the Effect section proposal and don't really have anything else to add at this time, though I only really skimmed through it, so I could've easily missed something. VioletPumpkin (talk) 20:06, 28 August 2016 (UTC)