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:So what you're saying is that it was only x3 during the glitch period? [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 00:48, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
:So what you're saying is that it was only x3 during the glitch period? [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 00:48, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
::Yes, I remember reading that something was overpowered but never paid attention. I do remember the version, though, and when Boblers said the version number I realized that's what it had to be. Since he tested it in the current build, I trust that what he has is accurate, and from my memory and that Shuffle chat trust that it was Brute Force, as that was the only thing I believe was fixed the very next day. Unless there's one I'm forgetting.  [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 01:08, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
::Yes, I remember reading that something was overpowered but never paid attention. I do remember the version, though, and when Boblers said the version number I realized that's what it had to be. Since he tested it in the current build, I trust that what he has is accurate, and from my memory and that Shuffle chat trust that it was Brute Force, as that was the only thing I believe was fixed the very next day. Unless there's one I'm forgetting.  [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 01:08, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
:::This may be a technicality, but I don't think the increase to Brute Force's multiplier was itself the glitch, though the two did coincide. From what I've read on [https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonShuffle/comments/63jwz2/a_new_bug_found_on_mobile_new_updated_version/ these] [https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonShuffle/comments/63k36i/pokemon_shuffle_update_110_compiled_info/ reddit] [https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonShuffle/comments/63zast/brute_force_bug_fixed/ posts], the actual glitch was that Brute Force boosted the attack of all types instead of only those Not Very Effective against the enemy Pokemon. The official japanese site even announced the x2 -> x3 buff to Brute Force, although they have since deleted it (see the third reddit post for more info on that). The combo multiplier buff just happened to be at the same time as the glitch appeared, and was then removed at the same time as the glitch was fixed. It seems to me that they messed up while attempting to add the buff, and then had to rollback the skill entirely because a fix couldn't be found fast enough.
:::With this in mind, how should mention this in the Skill article, if at all? Unowninator's edit earlier today that removed the hover-over note on Brute Force got me thinking about this. Would it be more appropriate to put this as a point in the trivia, or as a statement on the skill like "in 3DS v1.4.6 and mobile v1.10-1.10.1, the skill erroneously activated for all types" with the hover-over note on the multiplier restored? [[User:Boblers|Boblers]] ([[User talk:Boblers|talk]]) 03:55, 19 May 2017 (UTC)


== Skill ==
== Skill ==

Revision as of 03:55, 19 May 2017

User talk:Unowninator/Archive1

Brute Force

Just to confirm, I was in a Shuffle Discord chat where they were talking about Brute Force being bugged and take advantage of it as long as you can before checking in, because the extra data fixed it. So yes, the increase to Brute Force was a glitch, and it was restored in v1.4.7. Coincidentally, it was around that point I finally started playing again, so I missed a lot of events. RIP me. CycloneGU (talk) 19:55, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

So what you're saying is that it was only x3 during the glitch period? Unowninator?! (talk) 00:48, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
Yes, I remember reading that something was overpowered but never paid attention. I do remember the version, though, and when Boblers said the version number I realized that's what it had to be. Since he tested it in the current build, I trust that what he has is accurate, and from my memory and that Shuffle chat trust that it was Brute Force, as that was the only thing I believe was fixed the very next day. Unless there's one I'm forgetting. CycloneGU (talk) 01:08, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
This may be a technicality, but I don't think the increase to Brute Force's multiplier was itself the glitch, though the two did coincide. From what I've read on these reddit posts, the actual glitch was that Brute Force boosted the attack of all types instead of only those Not Very Effective against the enemy Pokemon. The official japanese site even announced the x2 -> x3 buff to Brute Force, although they have since deleted it (see the third reddit post for more info on that). The combo multiplier buff just happened to be at the same time as the glitch appeared, and was then removed at the same time as the glitch was fixed. It seems to me that they messed up while attempting to add the buff, and then had to rollback the skill entirely because a fix couldn't be found fast enough.
With this in mind, how should mention this in the Skill article, if at all? Unowninator's edit earlier today that removed the hover-over note on Brute Force got me thinking about this. Would it be more appropriate to put this as a point in the trivia, or as a statement on the skill like "in 3DS v1.4.6 and mobile v1.10-1.10.1, the skill erroneously activated for all types" with the hover-over note on the multiplier restored? Boblers (talk) 03:55, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Skill

Please do not just blindly revert something you don't agree with, like you did here. Discuss it on the talk page to come to a solution. My reasoning behind removing Pokémon icons was sound in that we have a sortable list at the other page already, and it's pointless to have to bounce around updating data in multiple locations. I don't even understand what you were comparing it to. I personally find icons in the Skill table extremely clunky when we can already sort in the list every single Pokémon that has the skill at quick glance.

I do see as I was typing this that you did post on the talk page there, so I'll discuss it further there. CycloneGU (talk) 03:47, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, when I started typing my undo reason, the talk page was still empty & it didn't occur to me to check until my edit was undone. But I would like to talk to you about this, so like you said, I'll talk to you on the other talk page. Unowninator?! (talk) 03:52, 19 May 2017 (UTC)