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Oh look, guys. Another archived page. Let's take care not to bombard me with questions on the release of Black and White. I won't have the game until the US release in March. Kogsie does have the Japanese game, though. So bombard her or Deth unless you really need my opinion.


Also, if you need something to do, take a look over at the right side of the page. We need that stuff done. TTEchidna

Hello.

I returned your(Mr. TTEchidna) article. Let's talk with me. http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Arceus_(Pok%C3%A9mon) Sawamular101 08:57, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi

Hi, Arceus god Pokémon, I'm the one country called Argentina (sorry for bad translations, is the translator) recorded in the bulbapedia me to talk only about my friend code is 4855-9477-2344 my name is Gold, I like that tomorrow, Saturday, we could connect and make some trades. --Arceus god Pokémon 00:53, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

What. What is this? I don't just... trade Pokémon. TTEchidna 05:47, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
01010100 01101000 01100101 01101110 00100000 01110111 01101000 01100001 01110100 00100000 01100100 01101111 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 00100000 01100100 01101111 00111111--444Zekrom 11:11, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Party Templates

How literally are we supposed to interpret the Gen I ones? Most Trainers had only classes so should our templates do the same? Blue, Giovanni, and the other Leaders should have no classes technically, and Prof. isn't really a class, his name is Prof. Oak. Also, Jessie and James had no name, only ROCKET and Lt. Surge is only Surge in Stadium.----MisterE13 01:00, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Prof. is the class, like Passerby is with Silver on his first battle. You can omit the classes and just have the class be the name. Only named Trainers use that in Gen I, far as I can remember... TTEchidna 05:04, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Oh wait, I'm an idiot. Oak's battle is in Gen I. TTEchidna 21:10, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Something wrong with this account

TTE, I have question. HOW COME I CAN EDIT OTHERS' ACCOUNTS? Normally I can't right?-444Zekrom 07:03, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

...what the heck do you mean? You can edit anyone's userpage by clicking the "edit this page" button. They aren't their account, dude. It's a wiki. These are pages. The account data is not on your page. It's in the database. And only a select few have access to that. Just don't save edits you make to others' pages without their or our prior consent, unless it's breaking something (such as categorizing pages in a way they should not be, like a person's page names them as, for example, a usertag). TTEchidna 07:43, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
So I see... thanks.-444Zekrom 07:03, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Question

"Junior Administrators are allowed to edit and create pages that are otherwise protected from editing and creation to those other than Administrators." I tried that recently, but I couldn't. Is that part actually true? tc²₆tc26 13:37, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Either:
1) It has not much info on the topic (I think, at least); or
2) It contains excessive, if not all, fanon, or any other personal reason (like 1) or it was previously deleted by an admin or user because it doesn't contribute) and thus was or is block by an admin.
--444Zekrom 15:16, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
I may have put down cascading protection. Cascading protection still locks out JAs, for some reason. TTEchidna 21:09, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
JAs have never been able to create protected pages. I'm not entirely sure why. —darklordtrom 02:06, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Might be different permissions. TTEchidna 04:50, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
I went through them, though, and couldn't determine which permission it would be under. Twas odd. —darklordtrom 10:13, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

I want to battle you!

I am requesting a battle with you. If you win, I will take back my filler info comment. If I win, i will still apologize to you. --Pokemon26 18:55, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Absolutely not the place to do this. TTEchidna 21:07, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Before I start ripping mugshots from Pokémon Card GB 2

What file format should I use for them? Zsaberslash 20:29, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

I would never say anything other than png. TTEchidna 20:53, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Alright, thanks. Zsaberslash 20:59, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

A little help, if you may.

See, I have a problem. Now, thankfully, I can edit my userpage, but I need help: see, I want to use the character template for most pages on playable and non-playable characters, and also the template to show your Pokemon team. [I mean like those kind of articles for trainers/Gym Leaders]. Can you please direct to me the template page for it or maybe give me the template. [Do it on my page, if you can]. A President Named C-Dawg.

I keep talk threads in the same place. And the best way to learn is to figure out how to operate that template. It's {{Party}}, while the Pokémon inside are {{Pokémon}}. TTEchidna 00:45, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Junior Administrator

I recently looked a junior administrator, Chuggaconroy, and looked at his contributions and he has only made 1 edit in the past 91 days. Do you think you should relieve him of rank, or still keep him as a JA?--Dbeckelheimer6 01:40, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

You don't know who he is? TTEchidna 01:46, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
Not really. Could you tell me a little bit more about him so I change my mind about him? (Not to be offensive)--Dbeckelheimer6 01:51, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
Check the news archives. TTEchidna 08:46, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Hello, Again

I don't know if you remember me, but at one point I asked for your permission to use bulbapedia pokemon descriptions in the tabletop game called Pokemon: Tabletop Adventures. The project is currently in Beta and is doing fairly well, considering how many online tabletop gaming communities play it. In fact, there are times where the Critical Failures (tabletop gaming) board, on the Penny Arcade forums, is filled with campaigns being run and the only games with more topics than Pokemon: Tabletop Adventures on the front page are Warhammer and Dungeons & Dragons (although the ratio at the time was 15 D&D topics, 7 Warhammer topics, 6 P:TA topics and 7 other tabletop games). Anyway, my group will most surely be updating for the upcoming release of the fifth generation of Pokemon I was wondering if it would be okay to further copy and paste any new descriptions of pokemon that may come up. Credit would of course be given again, as it was during the initial release of Beta, and every update since then (putting it at Beta 1.07). Thank you for your time and consideration. A link back to our forums: http://s4.zetaboards.com/Pokemon_Tabletop/site/ --User:DrMrStark 04:50, 12 September 2010 (PDT)

If I said okay before, it still is in play. Just make sure to keep in contact. TTEchidna 01:12, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Ph4mp573r

Ph4mp573r is a user, obviously a sockpuppet (probably one). We better question him...--444Zekrom 12:20, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

No, he's not. —darklordtrom 22:30, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Quick question

In D/P/Pt, HM05 was displayed as a Water-type HM, but contained a Flying-type move.

In the new learnset template, it's displayed as a Flying-type HM.

Just wondering, would there be any way to edit the template so that Defog's HM could be displayed as Water-type, or would that be too much work and/or too minor to worry about?--Cold (talk) 22:11, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Don't worry about it. It's a Flying-type move. They just F'd up, and it's trivia for the HM05 page. But not something we should display on all instances of its appearance. TTEchidna 01:11, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Learnset category

I'm just a little curious how a regular user would take a Pokémon off the old learnset category. I've done a few and I can't find a way to take them off the list. Jo The Marten 01:27, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

It's automatic, when you update the page with the new template, just purge the page. Jellotalk 01:34, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
Alright. If that's the case, something is up with Cyndaquil. I made his learnset template and he's still in the category. The other Pokémon I did are off the list but Cyndaquil is still there. Jo The Marten 01:38, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
Sometimes the category pages take a while to update. TTEchidna 02:04, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Questions

I have two questions. First, is this OK to be mainspaced? Second, why is there a learnset namespace included in the Recent Changes namespace modifier? Turtwig's A-B-Cs (talk | contribs) 11:44, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

"Triple battles is"? Also, that's there because of what we may do in the future. Just ignore it. TTEchidna 19:09, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Seriusly This Has Been Bothering Me For A While

With the arrival of generation five, we learned that none of the old Pokēmon will be in the Regional Pokédex. There are literaly hundereds of trivia stating that a Pokémon or Pokémon family has been in every Regional Pokédex up to date. Should sombody go back and delete all of these facts or at least change them? EpicShadow 20:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Actually, they only need to be changed to mention that they're in every regional Pokédex in the Japan-centric Pokémon nation (which itself needs to be moved). TTEchidna 21:25, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Speaking of that... has anybody actualy confirmed what nation Issue is based on. I know that many speculate it to be America but I've also heard that it might be China. Both of these are highly likely because they both have a large influence on Japenes media but I would like to know for sure which nation it is and what region of that nation it is in. --EpicShadow 14:33, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
It's confirmed to be NY by many sources, including interviews.--でんのう Zえんし 14:41, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Hello

I hope you don't mind me using this as a means to notify you (and you may already be aware) but the starter evos have been fully confirmed:

[1] [2] [3]

From the official daisuki club site.

Ah. Hrm. Mainspacing those then... it seems. TTEchidna 22:50, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Gen V names

What, you didn't like my romanizations? I see PokéBeach copied them all. :) --Argy 05:44, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

The thing is, we had the articles at different names. So that was making redlinks where there should be none. I'd prefer Gearl, anyway, but meh. TTEchidna 05:50, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
If you prefer it, then why not change the article name? You will have to anyway when the official romanizations surface. --Argy 18:02, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
That's why I haven't changed them yet. In case the official romanization is different. TTEchidna 01:03, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Abilities

I was actually thinking we should divide them by generation, like the moves. Can be discussed at some point tomorrow, if you want, and if I can find time to come online. It's shaping up to be one of those weeks... —darklordtrom 10:44, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps have their boxes be colored differently depending on the generation of availability. No Gen I-III Pokémon get Gen IV abilities until Gen IV, no Gen III/IV Pokémon get Gen V abilities until Gen V. And any past generations' abilities that they do get, like Bulbasaur with Chlorophyll, are Dream World abilities, and thus not available until Gen V. TTEchidna 17:40, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Well of course. And it says that in the footer. But not everyone knows the debut generation of every ability.
I think the only potential confusion will be for those Pokémon which gained second abilities in the fourth/fifth (if any) generations. So perhaps even a superscript annotation "IV onwards" would do. I think it's fairly obvious that Dream World abilities will be fifth only...
I don't suppose you know a sneaky way to get rid of that self-link bold either? Would an #ifeq=PAGENAME thing in that template kill the wiki? —darklordtrom 22:11, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Considering the fact that the ability pages tell you what the ability does, as well as what generation it came from... I don't know.
If it's obvious Dream World abilities are V-on... why should it not be obvious that an ability that didn't exist in Gen III or IV cannot be had by a Pokémon in that generation. TTEchidna 22:30, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
It's obvious Dream World abilities are V-on because the Dream World is in V only. It's implied by the column. The other columns, though, are ambiguous if you don't know what abilities were introduced in what generation. —darklordtrom 10:47, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
It's obvious that Generation II moves can't be had by a Pokémon in Generation I, even by trading back due to the time capsule restriction. We don't put on every Gen I Pokémon's Gen II learnset "Generation II moves, marked with a II, must be forgotten in Blackthorn City before this Pokémon can be traded back to Generation I". It's on the move page what generation the move's from, and we can't and shouldn't put all information on one page. Besides. Gen III and Gen IV are outdated. So we either ignore them (as is the case in most instances, like, say, Magnemite) or make subpages! TTEchidna 17:31, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
That's not the same thing at all. You don't transfer Pokémon from Generation IV back to Generation III. The comparison would rather be the different distributions of the move in each generation. I don't see what the problem is with including as much information as possible. It's helpful. We don't ignore Magnemite's former single-type status; it's documented all over the site including on Magenemite's page and the pages for the Electric- and Steel-types. —darklordtrom 01:43, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Then how do we show it without it looking dumb? TTEchidna 07:20, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

In the TCG - 5th Gen Edition

Would it be prudent to add in this: <!-- {{main|Pokémon (TCG)}} --> Pokémon has not yet been featured in the [[Pokémon Trading Card Game]].


to the Gen V Pokémon articles? I can find some time to help, if need be. --P o L i 22:20, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

All the hidden main links are already there. I already suggested the outside statement; however, it was shot down: "Why should the TCG have something and not everything else." They will be there soon enough. There are already like 20 or so created. I'm getting the disambigs up pretty quickly but not the actual card pages. I don't think the outside would be necessary. 23:16, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
I think we'll wait for the first couple releases from the new TCG. TTEchidna 07:19, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

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Nate, you signed your comment wrong.  :x And alright, I didn't check to see if the hidden mains were already there, just assumed they weren't. What do you mean you're getting the disambigs up but not the actual card pages? There haven't been any B/W cards released...? Right? TTE, I'd advise against waiting for more than one Japanese B/W TCG release to note cards that have/have not been featured. --P o L i 11:53, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
There are 25 cards released; 18 Pokémon featured. MaverickNate 15:45, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Like I said. First couple. Obviously all 156 new Pokémon won't be in the same set, even if they've been getting progressively bigger. Base Set was 102, with only 69 of the first 151 Pokémon. Neo Genesis was 73 of the then-existent 251... and from there on out it became a lengthy time to get every Pokémon in a generation out. Once we see what's in the first BW expansion, then we'll throw the "X has not been featured in the TCG as of yet" on there. TTEchidna 04:43, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Or we can just leave it blank. MaverickNate 16:35, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Name redirects

I made redirects for Pokémon names to their (Pokémon) counterparts. You might want to apply move=sysop and probably edit=sysop as well to them; see the list here. Also, I had to skip these pages because they had sysop level protections: Janoby, Chaobu, Futachimaru, Choroneko, Dangoro, Moguryuu (literal romaji spelling), Doryuuzu (literal romaji spelling), Monmen, Churine, Rankurusu, Mebukijika, Tamagetake, Denchura and Ononokusu. UltimateSephiroth (about me · chat · edits) 23:01, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm... TTEchidna 04:48, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
More into this, these ones are creation protected as well: Janoby (Pokemon), Futachimaru (Pokemon), Minezumi (Pokemon), Miruhoggu (Pokemon), Musharna (Pokemon), Gigaiasu (Pokemon), Koromori (Pokemon), Moguryuu (Pokemon), Doryuuzu (Pokemon), Desukaan (Pokemon), Mamanbou (Pokemon), Denchura (Pokemon) and Ononokusu (Pokemon). UltimateSephiroth (about me · chat · edits) 22:33, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

{{MS}}

On the (type) pages, the tables that display the Pokémon use the MS template like this: {{MS|###|Name (Pokémon)}}

In my opinion, {{MSP}} would be much better suited for this. Would I be allowed to convert them?--Cold (talk) 21:02, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes. TTEchidna 06:00, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Emails

Did you get my emails? Just asking...TheRevived 02:47, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Revolts

Have you ever thought that all of the users without userpages rising up in a revolt, led by a very charismatic Kuki, Thelateryears, Ph43r, or Mjakson438, manually reversing all of you and your cronies' edits, blanking your talk pages, and flooding your inbox with hundreds upon hunderds of threats, inflammatory messages, or such?

Think about it for a few moments... TheRevived 04:02, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

This is not cryptic, just drop everything and think about it.TheRevived 04:11, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Kuki is suddenly Hitler? Last I checked, he was Jewish... Anyway, threats like that aren't exactly gonna work on me. Besides. It's a fucking wiki. There is no way to do any lasting damage, and it's literally no more than a minor nuisance, considering I have the ability to lock the wiki from editing, delete revisions, block your IP indefinitely, and a whole hell of a lot of other things. TTEchidna 04:32, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Lightningrod and Storm Drain

it has been profed hat this abilities negate the damages of the types so could you add this to the Type effectiveness template and unlock Shimama (Pokémon)? --Hanmac 10:07, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Do they now? They didn't used to... TTEchidna 14:39, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
They do now. Lots of new and improved "F*** Yeah, Seaking!" memes have been popping all over the webs thanks to it. Ground-types are still immune to Electric moves and their immunity keeps Lightning Rod's secondary effect from kicking in, though. Mr. Charlie(TalkToMe) 14:43, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
What secondary effect? The negation of the moves, or drawing them? TTEchidna 16:38, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
It still draws the moves, but gives immunity to them and raises the Pokémon's Sp.Att. Pikiwyn 16:46, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
It will draw the moves, but not raise the Sp. Atk. For example, Rhydon will still protect any partners from Electric-type moves, but will never receive a Sp. Atk boost, Shimama will do both and yet receive no damage from the moves. Mr. Charlie(TalkToMe) 18:36, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
A Special Attack boost? Suddenly Gastrodon is way more viable. TTEchidna 00:57, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
I know, he finally has something to rub in Quagsire's face since it stole his exclusivity over Recover! Mr. Charlie(TalkToMe) 01:22, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Gym predictions

You should do them again, and update the anime teams.Ethan brendan lucas 16:26, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Eh. TTEchidna 16:40, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Psycho page

What happened to it? It's been redlinked for AGES now, and I've been wanting updates since you took it off your userpage. TyphlosionBlaze 04:02, 1 October 2010 (UTC)