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HGSS is out, and yes I imported, so anything you need verified, I can assist.

Just don't wreck my talk page! TTEchidna

Fake cards? :D

I'll trust your opinion on this matter, but what are the chances of dedicating a few articles at Bulbapedia on the topic of the art of Fake Pokemon TCG cards? I think it might be appropriate for Project Fandom, but it might be TOO fan-made to be of any relevance on Bulbapedia. Whaddya' say? - Nick15 07:06, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

That's a good question. I'd throw the primary questions at Nate to see if you can do something with it (since he's the TCG guy), and then after you've made an example article in the userspace or something...
But eh, I suppose it'd probably alright. We have an article on hack games... TTEchidna 07:09, 1 October 2009 (UTC)


I just noticed what you are trying to do so from Ponyta onwards I will make the appropriate updates for the Stats section as I add Pokéthlon, but can you get the number Pokémon before Ponyta for me since I don't have time and have to leave soon before I can resume working? -Tyler53841 17:19, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Not an immediate concern, but it will be picked up soon. By the time I'd be able to get to it someone would have done it already. TTEchidna 17:21, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Town infobox

So I borrowed your design like we talked this morning, and came up with this. You can see many examples on the talk page. Basically, it works perfectly, except in some cases large spaces are created and I can't fix them. Can you locate the problem? Once you fix it, I think we're good to go. --electAbuzzzz 16:38, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Will do later on today. TTEchidna 16:55, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Wierd glitch with the Pwnsome Cubone Award

Whenever I try to award it, it engulfs the rest of the page. Same with the usertag associated with it. Please fix it, and tell me how to make it not happen again. I will let you edit my subpages this time. Alpha CuboneKing 17:16, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Really somebody please help me. Alpha CuboneKing 20:37, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
He's not gonna help you with this because user based constricted awards are typically looked down upon MaverickNate 22:57, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
Well, PsychicRider helped me. Alpha CuboneKing 22:58, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
That and I'm kinda busy. TTEchidna 05:44, 3 October 2009 (UTC)


Hello, I am new to Bulbapedia. How do you make usertags and edit your signature? - unsigned comment from Kimori-Hinoarashi (talkcontribs)

Why would you want to edit your signature when you can't even use it? --ポケモン恋人私にはトーク 23:46, 2 October 2009 (UTC)


Do you think this has a chance of making it into the mainspace? ht14 22:43, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

After the curved edges of course... ht14 22:43, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
I don't quite understand it. TTEchidna 05:41, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Status effects and weather conditions. ht14 01:16, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, what about them? TTEchidna 02:32, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
I'm just seeing if the purpose is useful for each page: which includes abilities, typing, etc... ht14 02:33, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Ehhh... TTEchidna 02:37, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Ok then. Just wondering. ht14 02:38, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Need a Little help=

If you have the chance could you fix the code for the collapsible boxes on Deoxys page for the Pokéthlon stats. I tried my best but I was only half-sucessful. Also if you can could you created the Pokéthlon stats for Giratina's formes on the Giratina page for the Pokéthlon stats in the same manner because once this is done then the Pokéthlon stats will be complete since my main sweep on adding them has been complete. Of course I deeply apologize for any inconvenience. -Tyler53841 15:51, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Half successful is right. You tried to close the collapsing table to early, and didn't have the switch statements right. For the forme changers, copying the switchcode from the same page is usually the best way to go.
Anyway, you've got Deoxys and Giratina... but what about Shaymin? TTEchidna 15:59, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
I would have done the swithces them but a certain Trombonator told me not to put them in, now that you approve, I'll get to them later.--MisterE13 16:11, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Nah, I can handle it now, unless you know their Pokéthlon stats. TTEchidna 16:14, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Actually, almost no one else can handle it now... the page is protected. (I don't really mind it, but I find it strange that admins can lock the page just for a regular edit, while protection is not really intended for that and there is the template {{Inuse}} for specifically informing others to not edit the page... this is not the first time I see this.</rant>) UltimateSephiroth (about me · chat · edits) 16:19, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Which page, Giratina, Shaymin, or Deoxys? Deoxys I protected so no one would conflict me while editing, considering that's the easier thing to do than throwing up the inuse template. Plus, I usually protect it for a very limited amount of time to do so. TTEchidna 16:23, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Shaymin's already done I am working on a full page preview for Giratina to avoid cutting the rest of the material out below like what happened before, but with this server problem my tests are going to take awhile to confirm if I can make it work. -Tyler53841 16:40, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Believe me, for the forme changers, fullpage is the best idea. TTEchidna 16:56, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I meant the Deoxys article... but as I said, I don't mind and wasn't going to edit it myself, just wanted to point out the strangeness of this method. (503 errors, edit conflicts and process data losses keep appearing again, damn) UltimateSephiroth (about me · chat · edits) 17:05, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Believe me, if you had the ability to do it, you would too. TTEchidna 17:08, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Giratina has just been completed. I perfected it by changing the code to match that at Shaymin's page. The one to also thank is Ht14 who helped me on this project and dealt with some of the similar pages since I normally don't do well at creating template code, though I can modify it if I do it carefully. The Dexoys business only started because the Preview button wasn't of any use even when I compared it with Wormadam. Now to close this up I was also thinking on the Pokéthlon stats and wondering if anything needs to be done to make it easier to understand for people to know that the stats represent the maximum stats and not the starting stats or are people just going to assume the truth? If you want to do anything about this I'll be happy to help. -Tyler53841 17:10, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Well, personally, I wonder if the 'thlon stats should be changed around so that it's shorter but wider... Any idea yet what causes the difference in the Pokémon's current Pokéthlon stats vs their maximum? Is it the regular stats? Random? What? TTEchidna 17:39, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Well I know it has to do with Apricorn drinks, check out the Apricorn page. But anyway my original plan was to either modify the template with this note or change the header but if you have any ideas like changing the template then go ahead such as if you want to shade some of the stars to represent what their beginning stats were. But since I know you have a copy of the game you might be able to pull off some tests, or we'll wait a long while if this is going to be a long-term project. Also I only wanted to tell you this after the adding was completed some it would be quicker to fix when ready. -Tyler53841 17:49, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Well of course, but the Aprishakes are just like HP Up, Protein, Iron, Calcium, Zinc, and Carbos in that regard. I'm talking about the base determinant, like IVs, rather than the additive, like EVs. And mock up a variation of the template and I'll take a look at it. TTEchidna 17:53, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Look at the picture of Celebi posted here on [1] which shows what I was talking about when I mentioned about the stars and that I had seen the stars light up when the juice is used in a video on youtube, but right now I can't look into it because the site videos are inaccessible due to maintenance. If you want either a header change or be added new code to explain that the stats are the maximized stats (similar to the template notes on Base stats) would work as a substitute until further detail on how many stars on each stat that a Pokémon starts with are uncovered. -Tyler53841 18:07, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Perhaps. Like I said, mock up a version of the template like that and I'll check it out. TTEchidna 18:24, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

I've been trying but I have been looking through the instructions to do this and I am getting anything since I never done this before and not trying to give up on this even though I can't even locate a template with a search engine. All I really need is something like this "The stats present only represent the maximum Pokéthlon stats for that Pokémon. More details to follow later.". If I could find out how or if you do something then this might work. -Tyler53841 19:00, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Doesn't take anything more than copying the code to your sandbox and playing with it. TTEchidna 19:06, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Right here is what I have but note that this is the best I can do at the moment (Tyler53841/Sandbox), since I don't know where to find the original coding. -Tyler53841 19:23, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Um, der? In the template. Template:Pokéthlon. TTEchidna 19:26, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Iffy. I'll work on some. TTEchidna 19:43, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Oh well, but at least I took my best shot. I swear someday I'll enroll in a computer coding class to improve my skills. But anyway as I said using a picture like the one on with Quilava on Pokéthlon stats then the template can be furthered improve once more adequate details are found. Thats all for now, Bye. -Tyler53841 19:57, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Wiki isn't anything like any other code. It's the easiest thing you'd ever know. Just practice more with it. TTEchidna 20:06, 3 October 2009 (UTC)


Do you think its possible? Like to have Spinda sprites change to a random, though defined, PV then generate R/S/FR/LG, E and DP/Pt Spinda sprites corresponding to that PV?--MisterE13--15:08, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

...four... billion possibilities, E. Billion. It'd be easily handled, sure, but... why? TTEchidna 23:03, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I guess. At least I didn't want them all to be uploaded seperately.--MisterE13 22:18, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
Even using a generator, though, that'd be four billion images on BMG's servers. TTEchidna 22:28, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
OK then, just wondering I guess I have to get on that spotless Emerald sprite then. Also, could you move Template:Sprite/4/2formesnew to Template:Sprite/4/2formesnew/Pt so it fits with Notchie's--MisterE13 21:21, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Auuugh... I'm gonna redesign the dang thing completely soon anyway. TTEchidna 21:26, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
OK, you know it exists though now. Speaking of redesigns, what happened to the Side Games template?
That'll be taken care of when I'm less busy with other stuff. Considering how little I really pay attention to the side games, that is. Plus I'm playing SoulSilver, so I'm distracted. TTEchidna 21:30, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Mind if I have a try at it?--MisterE13 00:00, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

I've already got it set up, the only thing remaining is for me to do my switch-statement handiwork. TTEchidna 00:12, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Contest Opponents

I was wondering if I could create a page for opponents in contests in Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald. It would list their Pokemon, their moves, nicknames and ranks. Drake Clawfang 04:00, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Sounds like a good idea, but it'd need a name. TTEchidna 04:11, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
"List of Contest Opponents" sounds reasonable to me. I'm not sure how the Gen IV contests work though, so maybe we'd have to tag it as a Gen III page. Drake Clawfang 06:09, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Better not have a capital o in there. Title case = FAIL FAIL FAIL, SIR. And Gen IV contests being listed on the same page seems fine. TTEchidna 06:19, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Lol, alright then. It's a bit late here now, but I'll create the page tomorrow. ^_^ Drake Clawfang 06:34, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Okay, one more question before I do there, is there some sort of table template you want me to use? Because I can make one if it's needed. Drake Clawfang 16:03, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Here, I tried making it myself. It's not as fancy or nice-looking as most of the templates and tables I see it, but it's just a conceptual thing. Drake Clawfang 16:48, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Pretty much you can go by section headers with the Trainer's name, and then under that use the {{Pokémon}} template... Jasmine's page has how to do it for Gen IV contests, Gen III contests are pretty much the same only you have jam ratings for each move as well. TTEchidna 16:56, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Alright then, I'll get working. Thanks for the advice! Drake Clawfang 17:04, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Okay, one final problem. I've got the template mostly done, it's in the sandbox. The problem is that when I previewed what it would look like in usage, the "Jam" hearts always have a "2" before the number of hearts. Like, Here. I'm not sure how to get rid of that. Drake Clawfang 17:18, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

fffff I screwed up. I'll fix it. TTEchidna 17:19, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Also, don't just copy the template's code... it already existssssss. TTEchidna 17:22, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
So, you want me to make the template from scratch then? Drake Clawfang 17:24, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Oooooh, the Gen 3 contest template already existed....heh heh, I copied the Gen 4 template and modified it to create that. Alright, that's it, I'll make the page. Thanks again. Drake Clawfang 17:26, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
If the template didn't exist, I'd've not asked you to use one. TTEchidna 17:29, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Well I'd thought you wanted me to make one myself. No harm no foul though. Drake Clawfang 17:31, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Either way it would've ended up as a subtemplate to the base one. TTEchidna 17:33, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Done. Drake Clawfang 20:31, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Fail at the Steal-type. Also sprites should probably be RS for the Contests, and DP for the Super Contests. TTEchidna 20:34, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Zero clue on how to do that. Drake Clawfang 20:36, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
I was thinking though, for the physical length of the page, I know how to organize the page in a semi-table so the templates appear two on each row. It would make the page a lot shorter, if you want. Drake Clawfang 20:37, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Set the game parameter to Ruby and Sapphire for the RS sprites to appear. Pretty much just version names. And the length isn't much of an issue for the lists... TTEchidna 20:38, 6 October 2009 (UTC) do I do that? Drake Clawfang 20:41, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Like all the rest, game is a parameter. game=Ruby and Sapphire. It's wikicode. TTEchidna 20:42, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Okay, changed the sprites. Ya, I know how to handle WikiCode mostly, but you guys here have like, templates within templates six, seven times over. It's very confusing finding what I have to edit to change what sometimes. >< Drake Clawfang 20:49, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

I tend to keep mine as one template. However I do have many parameters. TTEchidna 21:03, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

pokemon hp talk page think

I can borrow your pokemon hp talk page bar.PLease ?The Aura Wolf ! 23:59, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Just make sure you set the code to work for your own page... TTEchidna 00:12, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Move Tutor page

Did you see my move tutor update from earlier, which I was able to expand with the rest of the Move tutor data and upgraded with details I knew beforehand and double checked during my update. But the real reason why I am contacting you if you wish to do you think about dividing it since I want to make it easier for people to know which of the Tutor moves are only available. Using the previous HG/SS template it should be not that difficult to do and it would be similar to how I handled the available Pokemon for the Bug Catching Contest and the Headbutt page. -Tyler53841 05:01, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Um... like how? TTEchidna 05:39, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
  • Put in my Sandbox, make changes to it if you want but if you give it the go ahead I will move it to the move tutor page. -Tyler53841 06:33, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Looks pretty good to me. Except the abbreviation is BP, not B.P. And move tutor needn't be capitalized. TTEchidna 07:11, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, made the fixes then moved it to the Move Tutor page. I'm glad also my work from last night also paid off. Seriously I have done over 500 edits since I started working on the Pokéthlon stats. But anyway good night and I hope to find a project to work on to help with HG/SS.-Tyler53841 07:19, 7 October 2009 (UTC)


Some person with this IP address tried to reset my password as well as Tommy-SAN's. This IP doesn't have an account here but I'd thought you'd like to know. --ケンジガール 07:37, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for telling me. It shall be killed. TTEchidna 07:44, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Hm... Seems to be from the same town as a certain banned user. One by the name of Gengarblood3. --ケンジガール 08:19, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Well isn't that fun. TTEchidna 12:42, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Lu geia

If lugeia is based on loon is the biggest stretch I have ever seen then you have never seen Tangarows origin. How that thing is at all caveman like is beyond me. Random Chaos Was here 17:44, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Tangrowth is a caveman. AncientPower, general unkemptness... it's a walking Geico ad. TTEchidna 17:45, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

I still don't get it. Tangaworth = Caveman true Tangaworth = Cousin itt false Random Chaos Was here 23:04, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Cousin It... well I'd not go for Addams Family references unless they were Ghost or Dark. TTEchidna 23:29, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Im sorry I just don't see it. Way do we say cave man for that thing?Random Chaos Was here 03:06, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Because of AncientPower! Yanmega's a freaking Meganeura, Mamoswine's a wooly mammoth, and both are ancient things (fitting AncientPower's evolution activation). Tangrowth is a caveman. However Lugia's no freaking swan. TTEchidna 06:22, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Category:Pokethlon Stat

Should we add Category:Pokethlon Stat?