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Added Gen I and II names. These [ are] [ Japanese] ones. I will also upload HGSS pictures (and BW pictures) after I get them. What about Japanese name of pockets? I guess I could get the Free Space since it's not a standard pocket. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 11:34, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
Added Gen I and II names. These [ are] [ Japanese] ones. I will also upload HGSS pictures (and BW pictures) after I get them. What about Japanese name of pockets? I guess I could get the Free Space since it's not a standard pocket. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 11:34, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
:I've added their Japanese names to the page. I like the idea of adding Japanese names of the pockets too. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 11:49, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
:I've added their Japanese names to the page. I like the idea of adding Japanese names of the pockets too. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 11:49, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
::Gah. HGSS is hard. Without Ethan (probably also applies to Lyra), [[:a:File:HGSS Items pocket M.png|some look odd]], to the point that eg. Medicine pocket would normally look WITH Ethan. Any idea what to do with them? [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 12:06, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

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The random Pokemon thingy

can I have it? I cant edit my userpage yet but once I can it might look nice there. - unsigned comment from Latias1290 (talkcontribs)

Go ahead and use it if you want (once you have userspace rights). --SnorlaxMonster 14:11, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
Thx :) - unsigned comment from Latias1290 (talkcontribs)


It's lacking the two fields for those version-exclusive Pokémon from Diamond and Pearl. Marked +-+-+ (talk) 15:25, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

To my knowledge this only applies to Magby/Elekid, whose pages already seem to have a different method of handling it. Is it needed? --SnorlaxMonster 11:44, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
Glameow has Cheri Berry, and is exclusive to Pearl. Stunky holds Pecha, exclusive to Diamond. Marked +-+-+ (talk) 11:54, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
Oh, I see. Version exclusives' held items, not version-exclusive held items. Updated. --SnorlaxMonster 12:18, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
Not exactly. Changing "dp1" to "d1" for Mightyena gave me Soothe Bell instead of Pecha Berry. Marked +-+-+ (talk) 12:26, 5 January 2013 (UTC) PS. And yes, field has Pecha Berry (with 5%; while Soothe Bell has... 100%). Marked +-+-+ (talk) 12:30, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
Should be fixed now. --SnorlaxMonster 12:31, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

About my new BerryInfobox

Any word on it? I'll probably need to work it back into a template though... --Abcboy (talk) 06:25, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

I haven't gotten it approved (or tried to), no. Making the templates would be a good idea though. Maybe use {{berries color}} rather than the blue that's already there though? --SnorlaxMonster 11:44, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
I've changed all but the Berry locations template to use the Berry colors. To make it support both Berries exclusive to Generation III and those exclusive to Generation IV and beyond, practically all of them are completely collapsed. --Abcboy (talk) 18:04, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
Something else: should we have Sevii Isle 1 redirect to Kindle Road or is that too much of a stretch? Also, should the list of routes reflect the index number ordering? --Abcboy (talk) 22:23, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
Go ahead and put all the templates on their own pages; unfortunately only the Editorial Board can authorize userspace policy exclusions, so I suggest you ask one of them. Once you've given the templates their own subpages, fix up the Pecha Berry example you made; it's hard for people to really judge it if you haven't got it set up completely. As for Sevii Isle redirects, I doubt anyone would be searching using them so I don't think they're necessary. I don't like the number of things the List of routes in the Pokémon world includes anyway, but I suppose reflecting the internal ordering would be a good idea. --SnorlaxMonster 06:13, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
Werdnae has given me permission to grant you an exemption from the userspace limit for splitting the templates off your page. --SnorlaxMonster 06:54, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
Thank you! I'll get that done soon. --Abcboy (talk) 20:22, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
Hey, can you tell me whether the following situations are worthy of their own warning templates?
  • Editing a page multiple times but in different sections each time
  • Not using link templates
  • To use better grammar/spelling
  • Having userspace content in the user talk namespace
  • Adding something, removing it, then adding it back
I could easily type up a message for each of these, but some of them are prevalent enough that I have to type them out repeatedly. Any opinions? --Abcboy (talk) 00:29, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
  • Editing a page multiple times but in different sections each time - maybe
  • Not using link templates - sure
  • To use better grammar/spelling - no, because this typically requires pointing out specific issues
  • Having userspace content in the user talk namespace - maybe
  • Adding something, removing it, then adding it back - I don't think it's necessary
Any that you think you want please make in the userspace first. --SnorlaxMonster 13:48, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

B button glitch removal

I'd like to know your rationale for removing three B-button related glitches from the List of glitches in Generation V page. All three alter the behavior of the NPCs in some way or another that is not listed or mentioned in the games in any way by anybody. Chicobo329 (talk) 11:18, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Replied on the talk page. I had intended to anyway, but I was going to wait until I had done further cleanup of the page. However, I may have ended up forgetting, so thanks for reminding me. Anyway, I may have been a bit too stern in my edit summary; I know that there had been a debate about it, and it had been removed and readded before (well, a while ago), so I was trying to ensure there was not an edit war. --SnorlaxMonster 16:09, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
I read the talk page and this. So you're just going on the safe side! I don't completely agree with the reasoning but I will respect your decision and I certainly start any edit wars over it. Chicobo329 (talk) 22:31, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

a question

I was wondering about adding a personality section to Zinzolin's page. There is certainly enough to work with there, but I noticed many villians do not have this section. My question is, should I add this section to Zinzolin's page, and possibly others? Icestar649 (talk) 20:58, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Sorry about the late response, but we don't usually do personality sections on game characters. I don't think Zinzolin needs one right now, but maybe all game characters could get personality sections at a later time. --SnorlaxMonster 04:26, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your response. Icestar649 (talk) 20:39, 16 January 2013 (UTC)


Needs to include Pikachu; as it's Berry if traded from RB, and Light Ball if from Yellow. (well, at least it was that way in article before all the changes and splites) Marked +-+-+ (talk) 20:47, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Non-issue. It is already set up for Pikachu (as seen here), and was even set up at the time you sent this message. --SnorlaxMonster 13:44, 14 March 2013 (UTC)


Lacks third field for wilderness in Gen III (Oran Berry; Shuckle has 100%, Raticate* has 50% while Sentret and Zigzagoon have 5%). I would do this myself, but I don't want to break anything on that template. Marked +-+-+ (talk) 10:12, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Looks like you've handled this now. --SnorlaxMonster 13:45, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Pokémon Dream Radar

Yesterday when I was with my friend to whom I've been helping with the Dream Radar stuff, I've had six Items, Six Regular Pokémon, Landorus, and all Five Generation IV legendaries and only the Items and all 6 legendaries went during the first data transfer, so I don't know if more legendaries can be sent. -Tyler53841 (talk) 14:11, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I don't know what would happen if you had more than 6 legendary Pokémon. I'm fairly sure only 6 could be transferred, but I don't know if a new row is added. --SnorlaxMonster 14:14, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
But in other news I do know that the amount of Dream Orbs collected is what opens the other extensions and with each member of the Kami Trio a lot more is needed for their extensions which will be difficult to pin down correctly. I mean I made two runs during the late night the previous night and I barely got things ready when I went to go meet my friend even with the amount of Dream Clouds I have. If you want you could mention the waiting time for the Dream Clouds since it starts at 45 minutes max, for all clouds to be ready with 4, 25 minute upgrades that increases it up to 145 minutes or 2 hrs. 25 min. I'll take care of the final beam upgrade coloring when I get to it, right now I am over 500 Dream Orbs. -Tyler53841 (talk) 14:23, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
The regeneration time is just one cloud every five minutes. I had read on other sites that they are unlocked with total Dream Orbs (and it is implied in the manual), but it is better not to use other site's info. Unfortunately the amounts are not specified in-game or in the manual. --SnorlaxMonster 14:53, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
Good idea, and by the way I was at least over 3,000 Dream Orbs when I caught Landorus, but there isn't enough proof to accurately estimate each amount without risking speculation. The unlock method for those extensions might just have to use just simple explanations. -Tyler53841 (talk) 14:58, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
I just wanted to say thanks for the help and pretty much the Dream Radar page is mostly complete. -Tyler53841 (talk) 03:50, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

This just in. If you use five play coins from the 3DS, then it can be used to instantly regenerate all of the remaining Dream Clouds that still need to regenerate. Since I don't know much about how to get play coins it is the reason I am sending you a message since I recently got my 3DS and don't have much experience on these matters yet. -Tyler53841 (talk) 01:14, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Oh, that's not already in the article? I knew that you could do that. As for how to get them: the 3DS has a pedometer built into it; if you walk around with the 3DS on in your pocket, you can get up to 10 Play Coins per day. --SnorlaxMonster 02:18, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
That would explain what happened after I forgot to turn the 3DS off, but yeah I checked the article first to avoid sending a pointless message. -Tyler53841 (talk) 02:32, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
Took care of it as best I could, if you wish to improve it go ahead I won't mind. -Tyler53841 (talk) 02:37, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Xerneas and Yveltal talk

Can you please check the latest Xerneas and Yveltal talk if you have some spare time? Some nice contents to add and discuss, we'd like to hear you out. Thanks. Tano (talk) 20:31, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Ghetsis as Royalty

How do you know that it's a translation typo?

Jdogno4 (talk) 01:11, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Because I got the Japanese text and translated it myself, and it says "loyal". So it coming up as "royal" in English must of have been a typo (you could call it a mistranslation, but I'd rather assume typo since royal and loyal are one character away). --SnorlaxMonster 06:36, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Fair enough. Understood. Jdogno4 (talk) 23:49, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Shiny chances

SnorelaxMonster, I was wondering If you could tell me what the chances of obtaining a Shiny Charmander and Shiny Eevee in Pokemon FireRed? Thanks,PokeCat3333 (talk) 12:35, 14 January 2013 (UTC)♥

Refer here. While starting a discussion on another topic,do so in a new section.Auraguardian197 14:42, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Two things.

1)As I mentioned earlier, it might be good idea to update the pages for some species not from Unova (the changed exp yield, as currently pages have the Gen IV yield as far as I know, while the EV yield list has Gen V yield)

2)Lum Berry - Not sure if to delete these wild, because none of these Pokémon are legitimately found within a game (with one exception, which can be left out as it's legit). It says "This is in the data. Don't take it out.", but do we list these impossible things (eg. Kingdra for Generation III and IV games) on species' pages? No, we list that here instead, including Berries. Marked +-+-+ (talk) 13:59, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

  1. We should have notes on List of Pokémon by effort value yield for the new values (I'm not really sure about that situation).
  2. No, I don't think we should list those held items on species pages. Not visibly at least—I don't mind if they're hidden and noted as being hidden because they are unobtainable. --SnorlaxMonster 13:43, 14 March 2013 (UTC)


Thought I fixed that error, but you were right to undo that. I should look more carefully next time before adding back an error I thought I took care of... T_T It happens, I guess. Berrenta (talk) 03:33, 21 January 2013 (UTC)


Why did you change my userpage pic? Arceus101 (talk) 20:16, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

The picture there was low quality and unused elsewhere. Since we don't allow personal images, it was deleted so I replaced it with another image of Pikachu (although the image I removed was not the original image anyway; Spriteit had replaced your original image with it when it was deleted for being a personal image). --SnorlaxMonster 08:34, 22 January 2013 (UTC)


Looks like 173penguin, who happens to be new at the website... well, I think you remember the story, as recently you undid many prejudicial edits by him to the Missingno. page. But he didn't understand, so did the same thing again, with a much bigger number of edits (now I've told him on his talk page that he shouldn't do that kind of edits), and now the whole top of the history page (except for a failed attempt of putting an end to that) is covered by less-than-begginer edits. Well, I don't want to manualy undo each edit (would clog up and... you know, probably skip at least one... whatever-it wouldn't be nice), so could you please, as a staff member, revert again to the last edit before all of that and put a quick end to this nightmare? TheOriginalOne 00:18, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

I've rollbacked him. I won't leave him a message since you already have and there is another message about the preview button. Also, if you want to undo a lot of edits, rather than undoing them all individually, you can view an old revision then click the Edit tab; this then puts the old revision in the edit box, so you can just save and take the article back to how it was then. --SnorlaxMonster 01:36, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
Ah... I just talked to you because I didn't find out how to do it, and so I tought only staff members could rollback on that way... well, anyway, thanks for both things. TheOriginalOne 00:07, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
Just to clarify, only staff can rollback, but the method I provided works for everyone. --SnorlaxMonster 11:41, 11 February 2013 (UTC)


Figured it can't hurt to get a staff member's opinion on this, if you don't mind. :) Drake Clawfang (talk) 05:14, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

So, I made a template for 7-member stat comparison here, and tested it here, looks good to me. If it's satisfactory all that needs to be done I think is move it to a mainspace template. Drake Clawfang (talk) 03:12, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

There were a few parameters using the wrong color (making it really hard to read Umbreon's name due to being in Water blue, for example), but I've fixed them. I also replaced all the align= code with text-align: and margin:auto. I like it and think it should be fine to use. --SnorlaxMonster 11:41, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
Cool. So, do I make the template, or does a staff member have to? Drake Clawfang (talk) 13:05, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
Also, it appears the bars are not aligning properly for the stats, that is to say, some of the 60 and 65 bars are the same length as the 95 and+ bars and vice-versa. Drake Clawfang (talk) 13:09, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
Fixed that issue and implemented it. There's no rule that only staff members can implement templates, it's just better that they do if the change is controversial or widespread; if unsure, better to check with a staff member. Also, it's a good idea to check with a staff member first if you're inexperienced with templates (like I get the indication you are from your template). --SnorlaxMonster 14:29, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
Aye, why I posted it here. :) I know enough about basic wikia coding (like, I understand how to change the colors and numbers on that template), but the more complex stuff like how you make those bars appear, no idea how that's done. Thanks for cleaning it up. Drake Clawfang (talk) 22:28, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
It's a bit disappointing that now the template has to be redone to include the Sylveon as well. Oh well, at least it can wait until we get its base stats (which likely won't be until after the release). --SnorlaxMonster 16:33, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Missing Abilities

Two missing Abilities are quite disturbing me at the momement: Greta's Heracross's Ability, plus the Ability of the wild Electrode that can be encountered at the Battle Pike. I almost saw Heracross's Ability in one video when a Trainer sent out Gardevoir, but obviously it didn't have Trace, so too bad. I think it could be Swarm, since I don't notice any kind of attack boost during status conditions, but I can't be sure if I've missed something. Do you know some person, possibly in Bulbapedia, who could know enough about this, or at least offer some clues, have an access to the Emerald version, or at least something? Thank you. Sorry if I disturbed you in the middle of something important. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 18:31, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

I wasn't even there, so you didn't disturb me. I have Emerald, but I've never really been that good at the Battle Frontier in Emerald—I got up to Noland and Lucy once each (this is mostly due to my team sucking). I don't personally know anyone who could do this, but all it needs is someone with a cheating device to go into the Battle Frontier and force catch them. The Electrode however I had always assumed would just have a random Ability due to being a wild Pokémon. Greta... it's fairly hard to test that without something like Transform, Trace or Skill Swap unless you're cheating. If anyone knows though, it's probably Jumpman16; he's got a reputation for being pretty experienced with battle facilities. --SnorlaxMonster 11:10, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
Thank you so much. Even though it seems that he hasn't been active for a week or two, I'll leave a message on his talk page, and wait for the answer. Arigato! --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 16:18, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

usertag error?

I noticed that the "does not like mudkip" usertag when used in a userpage displays the text as "This user does NOT liek Mudkipz". As you can see there are obvious errors but nobody has corrected them. Can you tell me why ? Hope I'm not disturbing you!Auraguardian197 17:28, 9 February 2013 (UTC) --SnorlaxMonster 17:31, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
Got it.Thank you,SM!Auraguardian197 18:22, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Grammar dispute

Okay, we'll agree to disagree and it will be left on that note. Jdogno4 (talk) 00:47, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

This reply indicates that you misunderstood the issue. This is not a matter of opinion, it is a mater of fact. And it is a fact that Iris's is just as grammatically correct as Iris'. Choosing to use Iris's or Iris' is a matter of opinion, but the fact that they are both correct is not. Here is the source Jo provided one your talk page, which explains that they are both correct. The Oatmeal has a comic where he points out both are acceptable.
Now since it is a matter of preference as to which is used, the reason we use s's is that it is less ambiguous and easier to template. TTE always liked to point out that James' Carnevine could belong to one person named James or more than one Jame, whereas James's Carnevine belongs to James. Also, templates like {{TP}} and {{OP}} all template in <name>'s <pokemon>, so it makes it far easier to template for the pages if they are titled with s's. --SnorlaxMonster 11:41, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Tamato Berries on Route 5

Some users have been questioning the availability of Tamato Berries on Unova Route 5 through the Pokemon Breeder. I have received them from her in the past but I never thought it to be an issue where I'd have to get some video proof over it until now. Until I get them again from her and get some video proof (I am trying every day), what can I do to appease the others on the talkpage that seem to want more verification? Should I keep the Tamato information up or remove it? Chicobo329 (talk) 03:30, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

It's quite possible the chances are based on ID number. Anyway, you can soft reset and get different Berries every time, so I tried that a lot but came up with no Tamato Berries. Until we actually get someone getting Tamato Berries again, it's probably best it gets removed. --SnorlaxMonster 11:41, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Random Pokemon Template

May I please use it on my Userpage?TurtleLover1999 (talk) 16:24, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Sure. There are a bunch of people already doing so anyway (although I do like it when people ask permission before just taking it). --SnorlaxMonster 16:25, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
Thank you!TurtleLover1999 (talk) 22:40, 21 February 2013 (UTC)


Needs cleaning up because someone didn't check earlier games and now we have a mess with what is new in Gen IV and what actually was there since earlier Generations. Marked +-+-+ (talk) 12:04, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Small question

Do we really need the redirect page Backpack? The command has always been called either BAG, PACK, or ITEMS. TheShinyRoggenrola (talk) 19:58, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Well, primarily it is probably for the item in the anime. It doesn't do any harm existing, so I'm fine with it. --SnorlaxMonster 01:42, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
At the very least, I think it would make a bit more sense to move the redirect to Pack, which would coexist a bit better with the games. TheShinyRoggenrola (talk) 12:43, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
There is now a redirect from pack as well. There is no limit on the number of redirects to a page. --SnorlaxMonster 12:47, 10 March 2013 (UTC)


Needs note for normal Kyurem. While the fusions learn the fusion moves at Lv. 43, normal Kyurem learns instead Scary Face. And since I can't edit it... Marked +-+-+ (talk) 15:50, 13 March 2013 (UTC) PS. Glaciate could use that note, though it's already mentioned to be normal Kyurem signature. Marked +-+-+ (talk) 15:53, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Done. --SnorlaxMonster 13:37, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Not really evident and "slightly opinionated"?

What do you mean by "not really evident" in relation to Arceus' behavior? Jdogno4 (talk) 05:28, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

What is "slightly opinionated" about Arceus'(M12) personality and characteristics? Jdogno4 (talk) 05:32, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

"intelligent, heroic and benevolent" are all subjective, unless they are used officially. And I don't think those traits were overly evident in the movie either. --SnorlaxMonster 10:30, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Redone GB Sounds article

Do you like it? Your template needs some improvements, though. The Dream World artwork should be an optional parameter and there must be a way to specify that an item is only available in a given generation. SatoMew 17:08, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Also, I tried performing the GB Sounds glitch on my European English HeartGold and it seems to be fixed. So you might want to check that out on the American English and other localizations to confirm if it is only present in the Japanese versions. SatoMew 00:51, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Overall I like your page; I hadn't really planned for it to be used on pages without artwork (most items have DW art, key items in Gen V have key item obtain sprites, and most other key items at least have some form of artwork like the Old Sea Chart). I've set up the template to include an exception for items with no art, but it doesn't look as nice anymore.
I have done the glitch before in my Australian version (which is probably the same as the European one), and just tried it then and it worked. I had a lot of trouble figuring out how to get it to work originally (see User talk:TheOriginalOne#GB Sounds glitch, and that's not the only conversation we had about it), but it does occur. Chances are the issue you're having is the same as mine was: the glitch will not occur if you use the GB Sounds as a registered item; you must open the Bag and use it from there. --SnorlaxMonster 14:50, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
I understand your concern about the template kinda losing its charm but it doesn't look that bad either, in my opinion. Now all you need to add is a parameter to specify that the item is only available/present in a single generation. In the case of the GB Sounds, this would instead read "Only in Generation IV" as opposed to "Introduced in Generation IV" (disregarding the fact that it is present in the internal data of the Generation V games, of course).
I don't have the GB Sounds registered so I always called it from the Bag when attempting to perform the glitch. I also made sure no wild Pokémon encounters took place and the glitch still didn't work. Maybe it has to do with the tiles you Surf on between Route 20 and Cinnabar Island, since I always kept at least one tile from the border between the locations. SatoMew 18:49, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
(Funny, I found a conversation that is somehow a repetition of what happened between me and SnorlaxMonster more than one year ago) Well, are you SURE you did turn on the GBS while SURFING at one of the locations, and off while STILL SURFING in THE OTHER ONE? Or are you even sure you didn't have in turned on in Cinnabar and Route 20 before trying to do this and since you had flown there for the last time? TheOriginalOne 23:23, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
I followed the instructions from the linked YouTube video in the article where the glitch is documented. SatoMew 00:55, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
Well, the simplest way I can get it to work is to simply go to Route 20 with normal music, open the Bag and turn the GB Sounds on, close the Bag and menu then open the Bag again and disable it (all while surfing); this results in instant silence. If that doesn't work, I don't know what the problem is. - unsigned comment from SnorlaxMonster (talkcontribs)
I guess I found out what I was doing wrong so I attempted the glitch again and it worked. So yeah, it's confirmed to be present in both Japanese versions and all worldwide English releases. However, other localizations might have it fixed. SatoMew 13:59, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

The European versions were the last ones. Or did you want to test the korean version? (it's older anyway) There are many glitches that are much more easily noticed than this one and that are not corrected tough. My discovery was just luck (a glitch that was just discovered 2 years after the game first came out), and this glitch isn't particularly important anyway. There are a lot of glitches registered in bulbapedia. Do you think we individually test each of them on all the versions of the same game, including the korean one, which is normally the last to come out? TheOriginalOne 16:04, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

I didn't imply any of that. But the reason I brought it up is because certain glitches do get fixed in the localizations, like at least some of what I collectively call "overworld sprite repositioning glitches" (old man on the roof in Cinnabar Island, etc.) in Generation I. SatoMew 18:14, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, but the European localization was the last one for HGSS. TheOriginalOne 20:47, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Template edit

Sorry, but I'm that kind of guy who just likes to rush into action, without going through some boring, long, time-taking, eternal discussions first. And besides, it was an OK edit, right? What do I need to do to make it approved? PLEASE!! I would at least SOMETIMES get to make some cool, BIG edits without someone getting in my way with details like this! --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 12:45, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
PS. Sorry about that, but, I'm just a little sensitive about these "nasty surprises" that Bulbapedia sometimes has to offer. So anyway, could you please answer what do I have to do in order to get my (completely mature and OK) edit back up again?

I agree, things tend to sit in "discussion phase" for far too long on Bulbapedia (see all my proposed stuff in my userspace). I actually have another design of that template, and I think it's best to submit the idea and see what people think before making a change that affects a huge number of pages (and the template in question should have been protected anyway, something which I have now fixed). --SnorlaxMonster 12:47, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
Your template suggestion was not bad, but I think that my version made it more clear which game had which leaders. So, if you could be so nice, please give my suggestion at least a thought, okay? :D --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 12:55, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

User talk:Marked +-+-+/Learnlist templates

Someone might wanna do something with this. It's lying there, untouched for a while. I am not sure if it's exactly... good (since I could miss a small thing that's damn important for fully correct functionality), but it might be good idea to update old movesets to the Gen V's standard. It'll make stuff less confusing.* Marked +-+-+ (talk) 14:20, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Pokémon Mobile System GB stuff

Compatible software

We should make a table of compatible Mobile System GB software (not the Pokémon version, that is) but I'm not sure how exactly.

PokéCom Center-related

GS Ball event

The reason why I put the incomplete notification on the section for the events held by the PokéCom Center is because I'm not sure of the following:

  • The true name of the minigame known as "Chieko Dice" as I don't see it being called that way (see below);
  • The so-called "ten card quiz" may be incorrect as I see the quiz involving 5 questions for the April 2001 event and 8 for the May 2001 event, as described here and here, respectively.

Those links also refer to the minigame as 「チエコ」にサイコロ, with サイコロ being the Japanese term for the dice game. It also mentions that チエコ Chieko is from Azalea Town.

To put it simply, we do know there was a minigame involving dice and that there were quizzes but we're not sure on the minigame's name and the actual amount of questions in the quiz or quizzes.

Trade Corner info

It probably needs expansion based on this unused English text (taken from the text dump I have—it's probably missing internal placeholder strings; I also adapted the text and replaced the caps with the <sc> tag):

Hello! Welcome to PokéCom Center Trade Corner.
You can trade Pokémon with other people far away.

To make a trade, we must hold your Pokémon.
Would you like to trade?

What kind of Pokémon do you want in return?

Fine. We will try to trade your for .
We'll have to hold your Pokémon during the trade.
Please wait while we prepare the room for it.

Fine. We will try to trade your for a Pokémon that you have never seen.
We'll have to hold your Pokémon during the trade.
Please wait while we prepare the room for it.

Your trade Pokémon has been received.
It will take time to find a trade partner. Please come back later.

Oh? You have only one Pokémon in your party.
Please come back once you've increased the size of your party.

We hope to see you again.

Communication error...

If we accept that Pokémon, what will you battle with?

Sorry. We can't accept an Egg.

Sorry, but your Pokémon appears to be abnormal. We can't accept it.

Oh? Aren't we already holding a Pokémon of yours?

We'll check the rooms.
Please wait.

Thank you for your patience.
A trade partner has been found.

It's your new partner.
Please take care of it with love.
We hope to see you again.

Uh-oh. Your party is already full.
Please come back when you have room in your party.

It's unfortunate, but no one has come forward as a trade partner.
Would you like your Pokémon back?

We have returned your Pokémon.

It's unfortunate, but no one has come forward as a trade partner.
We've held your Pokémon for a long time. As a result, it is very lonely.
Sorry, but we must return it to you.

We hope to see you again.

Fine. We will continue to hold your Pokémon.

Oh? You left your Pokémon with us only recently.
Please come back later.

We'll Save before connecting to the Center.

Which Pokémon do you want to trade?

Sorry, but we must cancel the trade.

Odd Egg

Same as above.

I see you have an Egg Ticket!
It's a coupon that special people can redeem for a special Pokémon!

Let me give you a quick briefing.
Trades held at the Trade Corner are between two trainers who don't know each other's identity.
As a result, it may take time.
However, an Odd Egg is available just for you.
It will be sent to you right away.
Please choose one of the rooms in the Center.
An Odd Egg will be sent from the chosen room.

Please wait a moment.

Thank you for waiting.
We received your Odd Egg.
Here it is!
Please raise it with loving care.

I'm awfully sorry.
The Egg Ticket exchange service isn't running now.

Pokémon News Machine

It's a Pokémon News Machine.

What would you like to do?

Pokémon News is news compiled from the Save files of Pokémon trainers.
When reading the News, your Save file may be sent out.
The Save file data will contain your adventure log and mobile profile.
Your phone number will not be sent.
The contents of the News will vary depending on the Save files sent by you and the other Pokémon trainers.
You might even be in the News!

Would you like to get the News?

Reading the latest News... Please wait.

There is no old News...

The News data is corrupted.
Please download the News again.

We're making preparations.
Please come back later.

We will Save your progress before starting the News Machine.

It's all for now but it's already more than enough! SatoMew 17:45, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

I do intend to get back to you (and all the other outstanding comments on my talk page), but I'm currently very busy and going away over Easter. Sorry for making you wait; I'll try to get back to you soon. --SnorlaxMonster 13:45, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Naming conventions for glitch pokémon sprites

Recently I've been very confused about this. I read what was stipulated here, and immediately noticed that it wasn't being followed on most images. There were many different models on those uploads - how I wish autoconfirmed users could move pages on the archives just like in bulbapedia... WAIT! Before you start doing anything, let me tell you why am I really concerned on this matter, which is the defect of the current convention: what about pokémon with more than one front/back sprite? Maybe putting a "2" at the end of one, but... what about Missingno.? Its sprite depends on the hexadecimal! In addition, there are a few glitch pokémon that share the same dex number... on the same game! And a possible other defect: are there any glitch pokémon that can either be shiny or not?

So, would you agree with, before a mass move of pages, changing the convention to "[game]Glitch[hex][_b][_2].png"? TheOriginalOne 23:52, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I came up with that as a convention for the files to be moved to and to use when uploading new ones; I haven't had time to move them all to the new convention (and generally leave menial tasks like that to other people). Apart from Missingno., glitch Pokémon in the Generation I and II games should only have one front and one back sprite. The standard is how they appear in battle; other sprites just aren't used. I don't think the _2 convention is necessary. Missingno.'s extra sprites are taken from other parts of the game (Fossil sprites and the ghost sprite) and follow those naming conventions rather than the glitch ones. Also, Missingno.'s other forms don't have a static Pokédex number; they copy what the Pokémon loaded had. As for its forms in Yellow... they should have different Pokédex entries. I really wish I had a Gen I game so I could accurately evaluate these kind of things, but unfortunately I don't. --SnorlaxMonster 11:58, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Nintendo Space World '97 flyer

The flyer

I found this old flyer for Nintendo Space World '97 on an archived 2ch thread, I believe. Then reverse-searched the image to find a copy in better resolution and quality. It seems to be announcing the Mew event at NSW '97 but I'm not sure. And I don't know where this could be used so I'm asking you to take a look at it, if you don't mind. SatoMew 22:24, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Me and SnorlaxMonster worked together to do the event page revamp, and events are a specialty of mine so I should be able to help a little. Based on the Space World '97 text from the official site, it is defiantly a poster detailing the Nintendo Space World '97 Mew. Also the poster does say that at most 10,000 people will receive Mew. However most text is still very small for translation, but the bottom appears to be describing the postcard submission process. It should be noted there appears to be a discrepancy in dates though, the offical site says November 22 to 24, 1997 while the poster appears to say November 22 to 23, 1997. As for the location of the poster, I would say somewhere on this page but I can't say where for certain. Lady Ariel 00:14, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
If the dates are inconsistent, it should be mentioned. Also, just a small correction: the referred number is 100,000 instead of 10,000 because 10万 is 10×10,000 or 104 ( means ten thousand). It's the same situation with the Japanese name of Thunderbolt. SatoMew 14:41, 21 March 2013 (UTC)


ForceFiretold me that I should talk to you. I created a glitch page in Pokemon Rumble Blast.Gelato Gelato (talk) 01:28, 29 March 2013 (UTC)Gelato Gelato

That would belong here, but I had someone who actually owns the game (I don't) to try it out and it didn't work apparently. If you can provide more detail so that it is repeatable, please do so (although preferably on the talk page). --SnorlaxMonster 13:11, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Archive Red Link

I noticed in your 6th archive, there is a red link to a nonexistent page (Unova Pokérap). Think you could fix that? :-) Frozen Fennec 03:31, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Fixed. --SnorlaxMonster 13:11, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Sky Drop Glitch

I tested the Sky Drop glitch on the Battle Subway's Double Lines in Black 2 and White 2 and the glitch activated. Not sure about link battles with other games though. Even if you think the glitch has been "fixed" we at least mention the glitch still works in the Battle Subway? --Relicant (talk) 13:06, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

I tried in dark grass. I think it is worth mentioning that it still occurs in the Battle Subway though. B2W2-B2W2 link battles and the PWT are probably worth testing too though (and B2W2-BW link battles if it doesn't occur during B2W2-B2W2 link battles). --SnorlaxMonster 13:11, 12 April 2013 (UTC)


Added Gen I and II names. These are Japanese ones. I will also upload HGSS pictures (and BW pictures) after I get them. What about Japanese name of pockets? I guess I could get the Free Space since it's not a standard pocket. Marked +-+-+ (talk) 11:34, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

I've added their Japanese names to the page. I like the idea of adding Japanese names of the pockets too. --SnorlaxMonster 11:49, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
Gah. HGSS is hard. Without Ethan (probably also applies to Lyra), some look odd, to the point that eg. Medicine pocket would normally look WITH Ethan. Any idea what to do with them? Marked +-+-+ (talk) 12:06, 13 April 2013 (UTC)