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(The Official Pokémon Handbook: Responding to this at all is probably a bad idea. We're both gonna think the worst of each other no matter what we say, aren't we?)
(The Official Pokémon Handbook: Too bad if I'm annoying you, but you don't get it.)
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:::If you're really that upset over an incident from ''months'' ago that didn't even involve you, then here goes: I'm sorry that I said something that, in the moment, was taken as far more extreme than it was intended. I can't guarantee that it won't happen again (after all, edit summaries can't be withdrawn after one rethinks), but as I'm sure you can see if you go to my user contributions, two incidents several months apart, out of hundreds of edits, does not an ongoing problem make. (Or do you have a problem with anything else I've said? If so, speak up. I'm glad to hear it.)
 
:::If you're really that upset over an incident from ''months'' ago that didn't even involve you, then here goes: I'm sorry that I said something that, in the moment, was taken as far more extreme than it was intended. I can't guarantee that it won't happen again (after all, edit summaries can't be withdrawn after one rethinks), but as I'm sure you can see if you go to my user contributions, two incidents several months apart, out of hundreds of edits, does not an ongoing problem make. (Or do you have a problem with anything else I've said? If so, speak up. I'm glad to hear it.)
 
:::I'm really trying my best to be civil and listen to what you have to say, but ''your'' tone is making it kind of hard (which is a bit ironic, as you're complaining about ''my'' tone.) If you're a Bulbapedia staff member, I retract everything I'm about to say and am gladly corrected, but since your profile gives no indication of that, I don't see why you think it's your place to (1) bring up an incident from several months ago that an admin has already reprimanded me for, (2) decide that your judgment of that incident's severity is more important than that admin's judgment, and (3) decide that you have the authority to (3a) demand regret, (3b) determine whether something is "an ongoing problem", especially when nobody has commented on it since the initial incident ''months'' ago, (3c) judge what kind of behavior is "unacceptable", (3d) speak on behalf of Bulbapedia as a whole, and (3e) tell someone not to say something because ''you'' think it's "superfluous". I don't know Bulbapedia's talk page policies very well, but on most forums, we call that mini-modding, and it's sternly disapproved of. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:50, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
 
:::I'm really trying my best to be civil and listen to what you have to say, but ''your'' tone is making it kind of hard (which is a bit ironic, as you're complaining about ''my'' tone.) If you're a Bulbapedia staff member, I retract everything I'm about to say and am gladly corrected, but since your profile gives no indication of that, I don't see why you think it's your place to (1) bring up an incident from several months ago that an admin has already reprimanded me for, (2) decide that your judgment of that incident's severity is more important than that admin's judgment, and (3) decide that you have the authority to (3a) demand regret, (3b) determine whether something is "an ongoing problem", especially when nobody has commented on it since the initial incident ''months'' ago, (3c) judge what kind of behavior is "unacceptable", (3d) speak on behalf of Bulbapedia as a whole, and (3e) tell someone not to say something because ''you'' think it's "superfluous". I don't know Bulbapedia's talk page policies very well, but on most forums, we call that mini-modding, and it's sternly disapproved of. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:50, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
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::::It "was taken as" far more extreme? You really aren't listening. Surely your forum experience should tell you that hoping someone gnaws off their own foot and chokes on it isn't exactly polite discourse. It was taken much more lightly than it should have been, contrary to your opinion. It's been dealt with, however, and I have no business in it other than to remind you again that you cannot speak that way to anyone for any reason, even terrible grammar.
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::::I have no tone; I'm trying to get it in your head how to behave around here. If you don't care at all what anyone other than an admin has to say, fine; it'll save me a lot of time while you keep on your course. My judgment of the incident is my entitled opinion and exists because it relates to a current incident: the tone of your summary. Here I am trying to help you not seem like a unpleasant person, and you say I'm directing the whole wiki. A wiki formed by fans of mostly equal status trying to create a comprehensive and formal database of the Pokémon franchise. I'm making suggestions to you for the greater good. That's all. I've repeated myself plenty—this is my last message, regardless of whether you've taken my advice or not. --[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|IWannaBeTheVeryBest]] ([[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|talk]]) 23:21, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

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Editing templates

Hi. Thanks for your correction in here, however, since this is a high-use traffic template, it means it's being used in +700 pages, and that could cause server stress. Imagine if you were editing a more complex template and you mess up, that could have been a trouble. Luckily, this one was simple enough. Next time, though, try suggesting the changes in the talk page, that way we'll look into it and make the edit entirely bug-free. Masatoshitalk 02:30, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

I'll be sure to do that in the future. :) Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 02:33, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Code of conduct

When using edit summaries, please don't make comments like this one in them. Good grammar is always a first priority here but be nice about it when you fix it. Not everyone here is a native English speaker here and can't always find a way to word things correctly. Telling them to "choke to death" is a little much. Thanks. --ケンジガール 19:08, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Scyther and Porygon2

I was actually in an extensive debate about that base stat issue earlier, and I know that Scyther and Scizor actually have *equal* base stat totals. I accounted for that in the Porygon-Z note by specifying that Porygon-Z had lower values in certain stats, despite its base stat total being higher than Porygon2's. —βetA ZerØ 01:36, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Ah. I guess I read too quickly to absorb that particular clause. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 02:33, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

The Official Pokémon Handbook

The TM doesn't learn the move, so the phrasing "learned by TM" is incorrect. ("Learn" and "teach" are not synonyms, despite what street slang tells you.) He traveled by train. We got there by any means necessary. Charizard learned Dig by means of a TM. "By" indeed can be used as "via," "from," or "with." Don't insult my intelligence. I will admit that, in rewording "learnable," I forgot to put "by means of TM", but I don't feel like I deserved to be condescendingly criticized for it. Have some respect for people who actually add content to the wiki. Oh, and Kenji-girl was being extremely lenient—don't ever wish someone violence because of their writing, even in jest. --IWannaBeTheVeryBest (talk) 23:31, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Okay, take two steps back from this conversation and breathe for a moment. It's just the Internet. Only on very rare occasions do I actually think less of someone for a grammatical mistake (and usually I will call them out by name); in this case, as in most cases, it's a teaching moment for the benefit of anyone who looks in the history, which is why I explain it instead of just silently correcting it. But if you want to think I'm being actively malicious and uppity, fine; there's nothing I can do about your mindset. (And I really shouldn't provoke you by replying to that last statement, but I have to bring it up - if you disapprove of Kenji-girl's lenience, bring it up with her. It's fruitless to say anything to me about it.) Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 00:48, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
You clearly haven't learned your lesson since you expressed regret neither to her nor me. That behavior is unacceptable.
Fruitless? The whole point of this comment is to make you a better editor. I don't care that you corrected my grammar; I care that you put me down. I saw your other incident, so this is obviously an ongoing problem. Bulbapedia welcomes and thanks you for your contributions, just don't add superfluous commentary, whether you intend the attitude of your words or not. --IWannaBeTheVeryBest (talk) 08:08, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
If you're really that upset over an incident from months ago that didn't even involve you, then here goes: I'm sorry that I said something that, in the moment, was taken as far more extreme than it was intended. I can't guarantee that it won't happen again (after all, edit summaries can't be withdrawn after one rethinks), but as I'm sure you can see if you go to my user contributions, two incidents several months apart, out of hundreds of edits, does not an ongoing problem make. (Or do you have a problem with anything else I've said? If so, speak up. I'm glad to hear it.)
I'm really trying my best to be civil and listen to what you have to say, but your tone is making it kind of hard (which is a bit ironic, as you're complaining about my tone.) If you're a Bulbapedia staff member, I retract everything I'm about to say and am gladly corrected, but since your profile gives no indication of that, I don't see why you think it's your place to (1) bring up an incident from several months ago that an admin has already reprimanded me for, (2) decide that your judgment of that incident's severity is more important than that admin's judgment, and (3) decide that you have the authority to (3a) demand regret, (3b) determine whether something is "an ongoing problem", especially when nobody has commented on it since the initial incident months ago, (3c) judge what kind of behavior is "unacceptable", (3d) speak on behalf of Bulbapedia as a whole, and (3e) tell someone not to say something because you think it's "superfluous". I don't know Bulbapedia's talk page policies very well, but on most forums, we call that mini-modding, and it's sternly disapproved of. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 19:50, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
It "was taken as" far more extreme? You really aren't listening. Surely your forum experience should tell you that hoping someone gnaws off their own foot and chokes on it isn't exactly polite discourse. It was taken much more lightly than it should have been, contrary to your opinion. It's been dealt with, however, and I have no business in it other than to remind you again that you cannot speak that way to anyone for any reason, even terrible grammar.
I have no tone; I'm trying to get it in your head how to behave around here. If you don't care at all what anyone other than an admin has to say, fine; it'll save me a lot of time while you keep on your course. My judgment of the incident is my entitled opinion and exists because it relates to a current incident: the tone of your summary. Here I am trying to help you not seem like a unpleasant person, and you say I'm directing the whole wiki. A wiki formed by fans of mostly equal status trying to create a comprehensive and formal database of the Pokémon franchise. I'm making suggestions to you for the greater good. That's all. I've repeated myself plenty—this is my last message, regardless of whether you've taken my advice or not. --IWannaBeTheVeryBest (talk) 23:21, 21 January 2013 (UTC)