User talk:Martonimos/Archive 1

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Thank you, and have a good time editing here! KPF30px 30px 16:10, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Link templates

They're pretty much required when you link a Pokémon's species. Remember, there are like, seven bajillion Pikachu. TTEchidna 14:08, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't remember linking to Pikachu recently... which page did I do this on? --Martonimos 23:30, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Never mind, I see what you mean. In my defense, I'm not the one who made those links, but you're right that I should have repaired them before you did. --Martonimos 23:36, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

About my talk page

Did you see that I signed my name User talk:Kuki above it?--Kuki 22:44, 3 April 2008 (UTC)Kuki

I'm not sure what you mean... everyone's user talk page has their name at the top of it. I mean, scroll up, and you'll see User talk:Martonimos above all this. I was talking about other pages, though. Most recently, for example, you left a comment on Talk:Wallace about Milotic, and didn't sign it. That said, you did sign this comment on my page, so I'm glad to see that you're taking care of it. --Martonimos 22:51, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

As long as you saw it, would you like to read my story?--Kuki 22:54, 3 April 2008 (UTC)Kuki

Maybe. I'm a little backlogged on the fics I have to read, though, and I haven't written anything in months... but I'll check it out if I have time. --Martonimos 23:05, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Do u promise 2 read and review?--Kuki 23:17, 3 April 2008 (UTC)Kuki

If I read it, I'll review it. I always do. --Martonimos 23:35, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Raichu

Why did you put this on the Raichu page?:

=Biology=

- Raichu is similar to a Pickachu, only more gay. How is this possible? Raichu has more colors and more flamboyant features such as curly ears and a long, phallic tail with a fabulous lightning bolt. Only people named Dan like this particular pokemon, which is apparent by the tribal Hot Topic earring Dans wear that resemble the gay curls of Raichu's ears. - If you like Raichu, you must be a real man. And by man, I mean transvestite.

==Physiology== 

- Raichu is a rather small bipedal rodent. It's able to run faster on all fours. Like Pikachu, from which it evolves, Raichu has long ears and feet, and stubby arms. Also like Pikachu, Raichu has two horizontal brown stripes on its back. Its long, thin tail has a broad, lightning bolt-shaped end. Raichu is a rather small bipedal rodent. It's able to run faster on all fours. Like Pikachu, from which it evolves, Raichu has long ears and feet, and stubby arms. Also like Pikachu, Raichu has two horizontal brown stripes on its back. Its long, thin tail has a broad, lightning bolt-shaped end. Line 59: Line 57:

==Diet== 

- Semen. Anyone who edits this fact that Raichu enjoys semen will die from the ghost of a pokemon crazed girl who died when her classmates pushed her down a well. Repost her story in five minutes on another pokemon page or she will haunt you and steal all of your pokemon cards.

MathijsP

I didn't put those things on Raichu's page, I took them off. User:Forthelulz is the one who put them on. I've reverted all five of his edits so far, and I was hoping TTEchidna would block him before he could make any more. Luckily, he's been inactive for some time now, so I guess he's done for the night.

That said, this is the second time I've gotten in trouble for someone else's edits. Are you having trouble viewing the recent changes? Because I'm growing tired of it. If you'd like to help me stop this vandal, then please, go ahead, but please do your homework before pinning the blame on me.

I don't mean to sound offensive, but as I've said, I'm getting tired. Thank you for your time. --Martonimos 07:16, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Anti-Combo Breaker

edit conflicts have nothing to do with the server. in fact, somtimes, when the server is fast, it happens more often. basically when two people post at the same time. or one person posts and the other is editing, then posts. -- MAGNEDETH 04:00, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

I know. I was trying to express annoyance that you and TTE got to post five or six times because I had to edit my post each time to fit the conversation. I wasn't sure of what to say, so I just put a "YOU RUDDY SERVER!" at the end. Besides, if the server were faster, maybe I could have had the second post in that conversation, rather than the last. --Martonimos_((Talk)) 04:02, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

ive been there, one time, i was on a page and about 4-5 people were posting at the same time... -- MAGNEDETH 04:03, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

So... sorry about the outburst. This is actually the second time today this has happened; two users started picking on each other on May's talk page while I was trying to ask a question, so I wound up trying to mediate between them, only to find that the conflict had escalated while I was typing. Still, it was pretty dumb to write that edit summary. It seemed like a good idea at the time. --Martonimos_((Talk)) 04:26, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

no need to aplogize. i can see where you were comming from. -- MAGNEDETH 04:32, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Gen

your userpage states you only being a player of Silver. do you not have any other game, or do you just not have tags for them? btw, the first rule of Fight Club is - you do not talk about Fight Club. -- MAGNEDETH 01:32, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

I do have some others. Silver's the only one I play currently (and I haven't even touched that in weeks), but I also own Blue and Yellow, and I have a Sapphire somewhere, though I can't find it anywhere. I also have Ranger, which is currently in my brother's posession. I guess I should at least mention them... I do have an updated version of this page saved on my hard drive. I'll upload it, along with my GSDS page, when the edit ban gets lifted. And you're here because someone broke the rules. Somebody told you about Fight Club. --Martonimos_((Talk)) 01:47, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

the ol "edit the page somwhere else" strategy. got it. i did that back during the server lock down, and back when the server was junk. just dont expect much in the way of user space when the ban is lifted (as in, talks of 5 edits a day sort of thing). and, just as long as i dont have to mention Rule #2.. -- MAGNEDETH 02:45, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, thanks to having everything done already (and a little button titled "preview") it should take me two edits at most to get everything up. I'm probably going to wait a few days after the ban is lifted to make them anyway, just because there'll be a huge flood of edits shortly afterwards (even if it's only five a day, five edits per user times several hundred users equals a lot of edits, and a lot of strain on the server). So like I said, it shouldn't matter. I just figured I'd write up some predictions on GSDS and edit the Fight Club and Dune tags so they have more than one color. --Martonimos_((Talk)) 03:12, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

ah, i see. all i need to do is remove the "notice" on my page (as im done with SSBB single player), maybe move the 2nd notice (as its not really important and i only wanted it there as maybe a one week joke), maybe add something alluding to my birthday (as i remain anonymous right now), and lastly, update my Teams page. maybe even condense the whole page and then delete it. and, if i have an edit left, i can do a sprite page update in one edit easy (as people seem to actually like that page). ive got it planned out as well. -- MAGNEDETH 04:00, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

thankyou

Thanks by the way for the help on link templates.

p.s reading your other talk bit, When is the user space going to get unlocked, I have never been able to do it because I joined in the ban. Sailor Earth 20:58, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

In fact you could go 1 step further and teach me how to do Tables and changing your signature. :) {sorry just learnt how to add no wiki so tried it}

Hmm... let's see. The User Space was locked back in March, and though TTEchidna kept promising it would be "just another week" before they got everything figured out, it's been several months by now. I think most of us just aren't getting our hopes up. You're familiar with the problem, right? People were editing their userpages so much that 1) The server was bogged down with their edits, and 2) They were ignoring the main space. They locked down the userspace to stop this, and it's worked pretty well so far. The admins aren't cruel, though (certain April Fool's jokes aside), and they're trying to get them back by limiting the number of times we could edit them per day. The problem is, there's no way to prevent users from editing their userspaces too much short of manually policing their edits and stopping them when they go too far. So it'll probably be a while yet before they can figure something out. In the meantime, some people are putting content they would put on their user page on their user talk page to be moved later. While this seems OK to me, don't do it too much. If people start editing their talk pages as much as they used to edit their user pages, those'll get blocked as well, and that'd really cause trouble for us. EDIT: Ignore the struck-through parts. Nobody should be using their user talk pages for userpages, as that circumvents the purpose of the ban and bogs down the server just as badly.

Doing your signature is easy. Click on "preferences" in the row of links at the top of any page when you're logged in. Scroll down to where it says "nickname," check the box that says "raw signatures," and enter your signature code into the "nickname" field. It'll handle both wikicode and html, so you can do cool stuff like Martonimos_((Talk)). BUT! Before making a signature, be sure you look at the new signature policy to make sure your sig complies with the rules.

Tables are pretty hard, at least for me. Whenever I see a table that needs fixing, I run screaming and wait for someone who knows what they're doing to take care of it. The manual of style has a crash course in them, so I'll summarize that here. Basically, the code

{|
! Top cell 1
! Top cell 2
|-
| Thingy
| Other thingy
|-
| Another thingy
| More thingies
|-
| Doohicky
| Yet another thingy
|-
| Second-to-last thingy
| Last thingy
|}

will get you

Top cell 1	Top cell 2
Thingy	Other thingy
Another thingy	More thingies
Doohicky	Yet another thingy
Second-to-last thingy	Last thingy

As you can see, you separate cells with a | and rows with a |-. For fanciness, add borders by using something like {| style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse;" in place of just {| in the top line.

If, on the other hand, you were asking about tables like the ones on top of these guys' talk pages, I can't really help you. You're better off asking one of them (probably Jioruji Derako, since he's apparently the one who came up with it).

If there's anything else you need, just let me know. I can't do everything (yet), but I can try. --Martonimos_((Talk)) 21:38, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Thankyou so much :) Sailor Earth 21:47, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

I tried making a template for those box things (just to add something to the community)Template:Good Friend and I tried adding a picture of Pikachu and Pachirisu on the template but it put one underneath the other, is there anyway to make them next to eachother so they go

pic 1 → pic 2 then carries on with the writing

セーラー地球 15:44, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

help

I tried making a template for those box things (just to add something to the community)Template:Good Friend and I tried adding a picture of Pikachu and Pachirisu on the template but it put one underneath the other, is there anyway to make them next to eachother so they go

pic 1 → pic 2 then carries on with the writing

セーラー地球 15:44, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

First of all, try to avoid making a comment twice. Second of all, it looks like you've got it figured out, so good work. That said, the image part of the box you created is twice as long as most others as a result of having two images, so maybe you should reduce their size so they mesh better with the other boxes. Template:User Jewish, for example, has three images, but they all fit in the space of one. It's just a suggestion, but you may want to try it. --Martonimos_((Talk)) 20:46, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

um

it's not thatI make mistakes and have to change it, it's that I have to save then find more templates to add.

Thanks for all the advice and for looking at that userbox for me. ShiningPikablu fixed it in the end but thanks for going to do it anyway. Like I said to Kenji-Girl I'm limiting my edits to 5 a day. セーラー地球 21:25, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Just open a new window or tab. You can find the userboxes with one, and edit them into your page with the other. Both Safari and Mozilla Firefox, as well as countless other browsers, support multiple tabs, so if you don't have one of those, get whichever is more appropriate for your OS.

Now. I 'm glad you're limiting yourself to five edits a day. If everyone had done that three months ago, we wouldn't have a userspace edit ban at all. BUT. Even that is going to get you in trouble, so here's what I suggest. You don't have to put anything on a page at all. You can put the wikicode into a text file and save that to your computer. Then you can edit the text file all you want, without causing any trouble for the server. When you need to preview it, go to the sandbox, copy the code from the text file into the sandbox, and just hit "show preview." If something needs changing, change it and preview it again until it's fixed. In the end, you don't even have to save the changes in the sandbox; just save everything in the text document once you're done. The server doesn't have to deal with the changes, and you won't have anyone yelling at you for making them. I've done this with my own user page, as well as a page full of GSDS predictions, so I can make a total of two edits after the ban is lifted and I'll be done for a long time.

Try it. If you need any help, contact me or one of the other friends you've made here. We may act like dicks sometimes, but we're largely willing to help. Just don't clog up the recent changes with user talk page edits; you're giving other users ideas, and if this spreads too far, we'll never be able to clean it up. --Martonimos_((Talk)) 21:43, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Take this

This is the Template

		This user is a good friend.

and you deserve it as a Thankyou.

セーラー地球 21:27, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for the help. Can I delete all the stuff on my talk page and start fresh? - unsigned comment from Purpleknowitall (talk • contribs)

Not all of it, no. Keeping comments and the welcome message on your page are official policy, and you'll get in trouble if you try to erase any of those. I don't know that it'd make a difference to remove the tags you have now, although you probably should remove them once we get the userspace back. But don't add any more. Like I said, write them down or copy the code into a text file. --Martonimos_((Talk)) 01:54, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

"Deoxys's Four Forms Retconned"

I thought that's what you meant. The thing is, though, Deoxys's forms have always used the French "Forme" rather than "Form". At least, in things directly from Nintendo. Just wanted to let you know. Deoxys911 22:54, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Wait, what? What "things" are you talking about, exactly? As far as I know (and everyone else here also, apparently), the whole Forme mess only started when Giratina's Formes were unveiled to the Japanese. If what you're saying is right... well, I don't know quite what it would mean, but it'd definitely be important. --Martonimos_((Talk)) 23:33, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

I can't actually remember, but I know for a fact that Nintendo has been using "forme" for Deoxys the whole time. Prima Games as well. EDIT: OK, here is an example. Deoxys911 03:18, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Hmm. Interesting, but it doesn't actually prove it. The people at Pokémon.com could change that page just as easily as the Pokédex itself. If you could provide a scan of something in print that was published back then, like a page from a Prima guide that uses the word "Forme," that'd be perfect. --Martonimos_((Talk)) 04:21, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

I have a Prima guide from 2006 that uses "Forme." I don't have a scanner, but I'll take a picture of the page. If it's clear enough, I'll provide a link. EDIT: OK, my camera can't get a picture with clear text. But look in any Pokémon guide book that has Deoxys's four formes, and look at how they spell "form." It's with an "e" at the end. Deoxys911 20:42, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

As of 10:11 on 21 May 2008, Optimus35 confirmed your claim over here. I owe you an apology for having doubted you. --Martonimos_((Talk)) 19:42, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

ok

thankyou for welcoming me back and by the way, when I was banned I read on a talk page that I never responded to your idea about my good friend template, so sorry for that and thankyou for your support and good idea, I wasn't being rude and ignoring you, I just must have forgot. But thankyou anyway. Guardian of Earth 18:24, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Don't listen to him!! He is a stupid little theif that I hate!! ^Moldy_Orange 16:27, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Who's a thief???Guardian of Earth 18:24, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Don't worry about it, Guardian. Moldy, who's a thief and what did he steal? --Martonimos_((Talk)) 18:39, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Look, I don't mind that you want to be called Guardian instead of Sailor, but you shouldn't do that again. Editing other people's comments is against Bulbapedia policy. You don't exactly have a great track record with Sp252, so watch your step. If you can avoid breaking any rules (take another look at both the welcome message andmanual of style; anything not listed in those is pretty much common sense), anyone whose trust you've lost will grow to like you again over time. Just be careful in the meantime.

Oh, and while we're at it, don't forget the "preview" button. Making multiple edits to your talk page just to test your sig is completely unecessary. Just hit "save changes" in the Preferences tab after you've done editing your sig, go to any talk page, type ~~~~, and hit "Show Preview." It'll show your updated sig. If you have another window or tab open, you can go to Preferences and edit the sig in one while you keep hitting the "preview" button in the other. That's how I got my sig to look like Martonimos_((Talk)) 19:13, 2 June 2008 (UTC).

Where to start...well, this kid completely stole the table from my talk page. I wouldn't be as mad about it if he would have changed the colors of it like everyone else, but no! He Completely took the entire thing, the exact colors, and he didn't even changed what I had written there. It was exactly what I spent three days perfecting (except for about three words) and now mine looks like crap!! I usually don't get this angry, but I can't stand being taken advantage of by this twerp! ^Moldy_Orange 19:40, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Ah yes. I recall you mentioning that... in an edit summary. This is really something you should have taken up with Guardian himself right away; there's no real reason to bring me into it, or to sit on it for this long. But I'll do my best to settle this peacefully.

Guardian, I get the feeling that you lifted the code from Moldy's page, pasted it directly on yours, and saved it without a second thought. Only later did you edit the text to be slightly different, and you still left the colors alone. This applies to the same things Kenji-girl and I have been telling you all along; use the preview button. There's no reason to slap the table on there, save it, and then edit it to match your preferences. It's easier on the server and makes you look more professional when you can do all your editing in one fell swoop. And like Moldy said, it'd be nice if you could come up with your own color scheme and text to put there, because ripping him off like that is pretty dumb. Look, in a few minutes, I'll put one of those tables on top of my page to try and demonstrate what I mean. For now, though, you should change your color scheme so Moldy can have his back.

Moldy, like I said, this is really something you should bring up with Guardian himself. I agree with you that he shouldn't have ripped you off so blatantly, but there was no real reason for you to wait until he posted here to actually approach him about it. Mostly, I'm just wondering why you didn't keep your color scheme and ask him to change his. Anyway, it doesn't matter now; just keep it in mind for future conflicts.

That's all I have to say for now. Let's take care of this quickly. --Martonimos_((Talk)) 20:02, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

OK, I've posted it. I lifted most of the code from Porygon-Z and a little from Tina, but as you can see, it's not quite the same as either of theirs. What's more, if you'll look at the history, you can see that I only took one edit to add it. What you can't see is the five hundred times I previewed that damned thing to get it looking just right (and the links still look ugly against that background... I don't feel like fixing it now, though). I know I sound like a broken record, but the preview button and multiple tabs are your friends. Use them as best you can, and it'll keep you out of a lot of trouble. --Martonimos_((Talk)) 21:39, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Alright then.

I'm changing the the Table as I don't want to be seen as being mean to Moldy Orange and I am sorry if he doesn't want anyone else using his colours so I want to change the colours.

That's when we hit a problem, I just made about 30 previews and I couldn't work it out. The code is in a strange order and once you change it and preview it there is no way of going back without having to completely restart it.

So could you please help. Guardian of Earth 11:48, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

• I want the top bit about messages background in Green and the top text Gold.

• The notices background to be blue with red writing.

• The archives background yellow, with one of those white boxes like in Table of Contents with black writing.

• Table of Contents background, red with the white box in the middle with blue writing.

• The sludge coloured border between everything to be white.

I am going to use a sandbox, to experiment first then put it on my page. Guardian of Earth 11:51, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Okay I have changed the backgrounds and it looks really good. Can you please help by,

• telling me how to change the top box's font to silver,
• Archive numbers to silver and
• Notices text to red FF0000

Guardian of Earth 12:46, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

You've got options here. You can either use <font="#HEXCOD">, <span class="color:#HEXCOD">, or {{color|HEXCOD}} (where HEXCOD, obviously, stands for the hexadecimal code of the color you want). Using these are fairly simple; just put tags at either end of the text you want to change, or else type it in the third field of the template. When you do this in a link, though, be sure you include it within the code of the link itself, not outside it; otherwise, the link will remain blue. So, for example, the text in your top box should probably go either

[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sailor_Earth&action=edit&section=new '''{{color|C0C0C0|Please leave new messages at the bottom of this page.}}''']

or else

[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sailor_Earth&action=edit&section=new '''<font color="C0C0C0">Please leave new messages at the bottom of this page.</font>''']

For your notices, just include the entire list in the template or tags (and use FF0000 for the hex code). The archive numbers already have a color template on each of them, so simply replace the 000 in those with C0C0C0 (which is what Wikipedia gave for Silver; if you don't like it, find a different color and use its hex code instead). --Martonimos_{((Argh|Blargh))} 20:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Talk page

No biggie... I saved everything. I'll just Bide my time. ~$aturn¥oshi ^{THE VOICES} 02:38, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for being so understanding. Saving the code to wordpad or something really is useful, and you can always copy it into the sandbox to see how it looks without saving it. --Martonimos_{((Argh|Blargh))} 02:41, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

You forgot to sign that last talk page comment about the signature... you might want to do that. ^Moldy_Orange 02:20, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Beauty

User_talk:Politoed666#Beauty. --Valepert 13:48, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Aaaaah

You didn't categorize a new category! Don't forget to do so! TTEchidna 07:09, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh teh noes! I'm sorry, I'll try to remember next time. I'm going to try to make categories for several move variations, so I'll be sure to include them all in moves. Man, I'm usually good about categorizing new pages... --Martonimos_{((Argh|Blargh))} 07:18, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Damnit, this is the second time I did that. Third versions wasn't categorized, either. --Martonimos_{((Argh|Blargh))} 07:19, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

help

i'm not allowed to edit my own page Hemu

Neither is anyone. Check this message for more info. --Martonimos_{((Argh|Blargh))} 01:17, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

CONGLATURATIONS!!

you got it. -- MAGNEDETH 00:48, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you!

That sure was a task... ~$aturn¥oshi ^{THE VOICES} 00:14, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. And SpontaneousCombusken. I'm used to doing these things on my own, but you two completely eclipsed my contributions this time.

I hope I can help with Trozei!, too. --Martonimos_{((Argh|Blargh))} 00:31, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Re: Galleries

Yeah, maybe you're right. So, I starting now, I'll change just the articles that have too much images, or even more pics than text, you know. Anyway, thanks for giving me your opinion. うずまきハルカ 01:10, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks...?0_0

Ermm... I hope you're okay with this... But I copied some usertags off your page...0_0; Palkiajosh 15:19, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Dude, that's fine. I got most of mine by copying them off of other people's pages, too. The only ones I would have a problem with are my custom ones, which I think are the Fight Club and Dune ones, as well as "This user rocks," "This user is a dick," and "Mew-who?" And I wouldn't have a problem with anyone stealing those as long as they let me know. --Martonimos_{((Argh|Blargh))} 20:56, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Languages

Virtually every language shows up in the "Add..." dialog except Chinese, Japanese, and Korean (the three languages I want to enable). How do I fix this? --S^hi_ny ^No_ct^ow_l 00:25, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

...are you clicking on the "East Asian Languages" checkbox? That's the one with Japanese, Chinese, and Korean. The other one has a bunch of languages, but not the ones you need, assuming you're using Windows XP. --Martonimos_{((Argh|Blargh))} 00:28, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

I can't find the checkbox. Can you please upload a screenshot? --S^hi_ny ^No_ct^ow_l 00:39, 9 August 2008 (UTC)