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alright, im sure people wont be happy with Choking getting arms and legs. as for not using "Hakking" i decided it was too close to "hacking" as in cheating. as for "Nohtyp", i dont want to sound like a jerk, but i cant give you credit for it because while creating it myself, i gave it the same name. i didnt know you had also called it that untill i came here to post this that im typing right now. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color: #696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 06:04, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
alright, im sure people wont be happy with Choking getting arms and legs. as for not using "Hakking" i decided it was too close to "hacking" as in cheating. as for "Nohtyp", i dont want to sound like a jerk, but i cant give you credit for it because while creating it myself, i gave it the same name. i didnt know you had also called it that untill i came here to post this that im typing right now. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color: #696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 06:04, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
:I always envisaged a Poison/Ice Weezing evo... Sneezing... -- <small><font color="0000C8">[[User:The dark lord trombonator|SeriousDom]]</font></small> 08:32, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
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If anything, a Farfetch'd evo should be a Normal/Dark or Dark/Flying ninja. TTEchidnaFire echyGSDS! 05:39, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

i like the idea, but im not sure where you are comming mean how he is very elusive and attacks with a stick like a sword? 35pxMAGNEDETH35pxTARIDNEDOPT35px 05:45, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Yes, the leek would become a sword. TTEchidnaFire echyGSDS! 06:11, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
i dont think parents would like that, a Pokemon with a sword? 35pxMAGNEDETH35pxTARIDNEDOPT35px 06:14, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
It'd be a leek that looks more like a sword. And that's no more violent than a Pokémon with boxing gloves or one that can pretty much shoot missiles. TTEchidnaFire echyGSDS! 06:35, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
alright, i like it, a Dark/Flying, keep the name i got, or what do you think? MAGNEDETH 06:39, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Screw the parents, we have Scyther and is anyone going on about that? No. -Mudkipchan 06:41, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Ninjetch'd? It just fits. TTEchidnaFire echyGSDS! 06:47, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
oooh, i like that. also, i think Mudkipchan put that comment in the wrong section.. MAGNEDETH 06:53, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

ネギニンジ Negininja would be its Japanese name, from カモネギ Kamonegi. TTEchidnaFire echyGSDS! 07:46, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

um.....sure? MAGNEDETH 07:50, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Ninjetch'd signature move could be Super Swords Dance, a move that increase its attack by 3 levels!-Billy4b2004 09:18, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

hmm, idk, thats rather absurd...there arent any moves out there that that increase any stat more than twice except for belly drum i think, and that halvs HP. MAGNEDETH 23:43, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
It doesn't make sense that it is the only Pokémon to have a sword but its Swords Dance is the same of the normal one.-Billy4b2004 06:03, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Or its trigger can be: Level-up while holding a Learner's Sword and having Super Swords Dance!-Billy4b2004 05:36, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
the only way "Super Swords Dance" would work is if it lowered somthing else. 3 levels is too much. MAGNEDETH 05:42, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
OK, let's lower its Defense for 1 level!-Billy4b2004 10:33, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

File:Ninjetchd.JPG I made a sprite if you want to use it but I get credit for making the sprite.It is saved under Ninjetchd.JPG CrystalLucario 14:09, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

thanks, but im just going to keep with the regular sprites. MAGNEDETH 00:41, 26 February 2008 (UTC)


There should be a baby Pokémon that can evolve into either Miltank and Tauros. Maybe one for the Volbeat... guys too. -Mudkipchan 05:41, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

And a baby Kangaskhan would definitely be both genders, and males would become Kangaskirk. TTEchidnaFire echyGSDS! 05:42, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
i like the miltank/tauros idea, im not so sure about the Volbeat one (maybe thats because i dont like them) 35pxMAGNEDETH35pxTARIDNEDOPT35px 05:45, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Yes to male Kangaskhan and baby, they would both solve the missing link of Kangaskhan. Why Game Freak, why must you torment us! And I don't like Volbeat too. :P -05:48, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
alright, a male Kahn it is, but what to name it? i like the idea of "Kirk" but that doesnt really fit the evo line name. unless i changed the baby to "Kangasroo" or somthing. 35pxMAGNEDETH35pxTARIDNEDOPT35px 06:03, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
You do know the reference is to Star Trek, right? Kirk was the one who said KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!. TTEchidnaFire echyGSDS! 06:10, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Kirk is also a name for a boy, of course. :P Mudkipchan 06:13, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
well, i know Kirk, and i know the Kahn line, but not everyone knows that, and it still wouldnt look right. itd be a damn good nickname though 35pxMAGNEDETH35pxTARIDNEDOPT35px 06:14, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Well, doesn't "Kangaskhan" sounds sort of like it is based off Genghis Khan (that Mongolian emipre guy??), so maybe name it after his brother/nephew/however that guy was related to him, Kublai Khan? Just putting out the idea. -Theininen 16:52, 27 March 2008 (UTC) (Couldn't make a sig before big testing thing)
My opinion, Kangaskhan should of never been able to breed. That would of solved this whole mess. But I guess it's too late for that. --File:048MS.gifケンジFile:183MS.gifガールFile:123MS.gif 06:52, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
maybe ill add that to my other page MAGNEDETH 07:04, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
I object. If Kangaskhan couldn't breed, then it still wouldn't explain where the child came from in fact it would probably raise even more questions. Mudkipchan 07:05, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
thats an even better point. i think the real prob was that they made it a female only with no male, it makes me wonder how they ever exsisted at all!! MAGNEDETH 07:07, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
No the real problem is not the gender. When a Kangaskhan is born.. as soon as it comes out of the egg, it is an adult that is already bearing another kid. Mudkipchan 07:14, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
What I meant was that the players can't breed them. Maybe Kangaskhan could have mated in secrecy. You know, the same as legendary Pokémon. We can't breed them but there's no doubt that they can mate. Just not in front of humans. There is that baby Lugia in the anime. --File:Ani048MS.gifケンジFile:Ani183MS.gifガールFile:Ani123MS.gif 07:18, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Let the debate begin. :P Joking. Well that is possible... But the Lugias just made me go "Meh." when I first watched the episodes surrounding the two, just being honest here. But I'll give you credit that you do have a point here. But now that Game Freak has made the kanga breedable... that missing link just appeared. And before anyone asks, yes I am too lazy to use my sig. Mudkipchan 07:23, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
yea, im def putting that on my do over page... MAGNEDETH 07:21, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

New Evolutions

You know, the name of the new doesn't always have to match the old. Examples of Pokémon who's names don't have much in common.

  1. Tyrogue = Hitmon...
  2. Caterpie = Metapod = Butterfree
  3. Ekans = Arbok
  4. Oddish = Gloom = Vileplume or Bellosom
  5. Meowth = Persian
  6. Geodude = Graveler = Golem
  7. Ponyta = Rapidash
  8. Magikarp = Gyrados
  9. Nuzleaf = Shiftry
  10. Wingull = Pelipper
  11. Ralts = Kirlia = Ga...
  12. Shroomish = Breloom
  13. Burmy = Wormadam or Mothim
  14. Skorupi = Drapion

So vary a little okay?486PokeManiac102492 07:00, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

good point, I'm just a stickler for that stuff. it always bothered me when Pokémon evolutions didn't have similar cries in the games MAGNEDETH 07:06, 31 December 2007 (UTC)


One more thing i can't stand. Pinsir is a pun on Pincer. There is no such thing as a Clawcer. Only a Claw.486PokeManiac102492 07:07, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

i did make a note "the name needs work" that being said, what do you think? and do you like the idea of a Bug/Dark type? MAGNEDETH 07:10, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Well I love darkness. What do you think you're gonna name it? Clark? Claw and Dark. {This is not funny and is not meant to be funny)486PokeManiac102492 07:11, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
wow, if it were real, "Clark" would be the best nickname ever. could go the generic route and say "Darklaw" or something MAGNEDETH 07:13, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Hey, Crushir might be a good name.--Pokencyclopedia 22:21, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
not a bad name, but i cant help but feel its a bit generic...i have since renamed it "Guiloreap", i think its still a bit to busy, thoughts? MAGNEDETH 23:49, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Sorry I was away, watching Saw. I like the reap part but not a big fan of the Guilo.486PokeManiac102492 00:31, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

For Gen II, III, IV

I think a Houndoom evo would be cool. Also a baby form of Absol. And of course a Pachirisu evo. Maybe it could be a flying squirrel and become Electric/Flying.

Anyway, great choices so far. Can't wait to see more --File:Ani048MS.gifケンジFile:Ani183MS.gifガールFile:Ani123MS.gif 07:08, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Pachirisu flying squirrel, thats a really good one, ill get one that one. as for Houndoom? idk, hes pretty awesome, ill think about it. MAGNEDETH 07:11, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Throw it off a cliff LOL!! That's a good one. Have you ever thought of different Eeveelutions? --File:Ani048MS.gifケンジFile:Ani183MS.gifガールFile:Ani123MS.gif 22:23, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm all for the idea of a Pachirisu evo, but I'd prefer it to be a pure Electric-type with the Levitate ability.--Pokencyclopedia 22:34, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Also, I think that Rotom could use an evolved form. It would basically be more like Pulseman.--Pokencyclopedia 22:34, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

why would there be a reason for Levitating Pachirisu? a flying squirrel is a real thing. as for Rotom, yea, i was thinking about it, give folks a reason to have to wait until after the E4 to get him. also, i probably wont do Eeveelutions, theres no real work involved in them, just copy and paste types and stats, and give it a generic name. Drageon, Steeleon, Toxeon, etc..MAGNEDETH 23:56, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
I don't know. I just like the idea of a pure-Electric type.--Pokencyclopedia 01:47, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
well, theres 20 other pure Eelctric-types, im sure almost all of them are better than Pachirisu.. MAGNEDETH 02:06, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
With Levitate, it wouldn't have any weaknesses. File:Ani164MS.gifShiny Noctowl  02:23, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
my stance on flying squirrel stands. MAGNEDETH 02:47, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Flying squirrels don't actually fly, they just glide. File:Ani164MS.gifShiny Noctowl  02:52, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm for the Flying-type Pachirisu. Why? Cause. No weaknesses are just hax, man. Tina δ 02:54, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
i agree, i dispise Sableye and Spiritomb, and thats comming from a hacker! MAGNEDETH 02:56, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

I perfer the pure Electric type with levitate, scince Electric/Flying is basiclly reserved for Zapdos--Quick Man107 21:09, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

FLYING squirrel is the way it is. i know everyone wants no weakness, but too bad. MAGNEDETH 21:14, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Separating the charts?

Why not do that, for evos and prevos? Prevos get one section, evos get another. TTEchidnaFire echyGSDS! 07:19, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

the idea had come to me, i suppose ill do it tomorrow, its almost 3:00AM MAGNEDETH 07:25, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Oh boy, three AM! *grabs a burger and chomps on it* TTEchidnaFire echyGSDS! 07:37, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
well, i have no idea what that was about, but i do have a full time job and i get up at 7, so, i think ill be going now....btw, thanks for cleaning up my page. MAGNEDETH 07:43, 31 December 2007 (UTC)


How about this. Speedix could be Steel and Dark type, with Dark being the secondary type. I mean think about it, a giant metal drill that moves around on its own seems more like a dual Dark type to me. And it must learn Horn Drill of course. :P Mudkipchan 17:56, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

i like the idea, but, if hes digging around underground, i think itd make more sence to be ground-type. btw, please tell me you have an idea for a better name, this one is killing me. MAGNEDETH 17:59, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
True that. But Pokemon can't have three typing anyhow.... and battle-wise, he would probably get a 4x weakness to Fighting if he were Steel and Dark type. :P Mudkipchan 18:04, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
I dunno. I always thought that Onix needed a pre-evolution. Onix is WAY to big to be an unevolved Pokémon. Satoshi Tajiri managed to avoid making a pre-evolution for Rhyhorn by giving Rhydon an evolution, and I'd hate for that to happen with Onix.Pokencyclopedia 21:21, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
thats a really good point...hows about Speedix be an alternative to Onix? (like bellossom) MAGNEDETH 21:26, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

i changed the name, thoughts? MAGNEDETH 19:25, 5 January 2008 (UTC)


Evolve The Kucheat! And don't name it Bawile. DO NOT. Or else I will harm you. REALLY. REALLY. BADLY. TTEchidnaFire echyGSDS! 07:38, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

that would be terrible, and it does need an evolution MAGNEDETH 18:02, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
toss me some ideas here MAGNEDETH 20:38, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Japanese name could be Krakcheat. English, Jaworn. TTEchidnaFire echyGSDS! 07:52, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Oh, and don't forget: Steel/Dark plz. TTEchidnaFire echyGSDS! 07:53, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
you dont mind a 4x weakness? MAGNEDETH 23:25, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Not to Fighting. That's easily solved with Aerial Ace, if it can learn it. TTEchidnaFire echyGSDS! 23:47, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
t seems like everything can learn that, and because were making it up, why not?? so hows about "Jawile" MAGNEDETH 03:18, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Jawile, I guess. TTEchidnaFire echyGSDS! 07:02, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
クラチート Krakcheat. TTEchidnaFire echyGSDS! 07:19, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Why did you name the Mawile evo "Kucheat"? That's Mawile's Japanese name. You can't use that. --File:Ani048MS.gifケンジFile:Ani183MS.gifガールFile:Ani123MS.gif 07:19, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

TTE suggested it. However, I believe it will now be changed to Jawile. Glinn32px 07:41, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

I suggested merely to evolve The Kucheat. 303 Maw! 107 Hitmon-chaaaaan! TTEchidnaFire echyGSDS! 07:48, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes, you did indeed say evolve The Kucheat. My mistake. Glinn32px 07:51, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

other than the hardcore fans, no one knows Mawiles name is Kucheat. i like the name, so i figured swap the american and jap names around, though, Jawile has come up as well. MAGNEDETH 17:17, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Same with Sonans/Wobbuffet and Sohnano/Wynaut. "That's how it is!" and "Really?" in Japan, a wobbly thing you hit and why shouldn't you in English. Doesn't prevent me from thinking they dropped the ball. Besides, Krakcheat would come from Kraken and cheat, not kuchi and cheat. If anything, Mawile would've been better having its name the same in the US. TTEchidnaFire echyGSDS! 00:17, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
So, are you suggesting that Krakcheat would be part-squid?--Pokencyclopedia 00:41, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
I dunno. Maybe it could have some elements... TTEchidnaFire echyGSDS! 07:01, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
yea, im really lost here, so, lets break it down. the name for the new Mawile evo should be: Jawile, Kucheat, Krakcheat, Other. MAGNEDETH 08:27, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Japanese: クラチート Krakcheat. English: Jawile. TTEchidnaFire echyGSDS! 03:29, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
ill probibly ignore the Jap names as i dont really care about them, but i cant help but think that "Jawile" is rather generic MAGNEDETH 22:00, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
So do I, but it's better than Bawile. TTEchidnaFire echyGSDS! 02:25, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
yes it is. besides, i guess if i had one in game i could name it whatever i want. like Doody Head. but i wouldnt, because i know as soon as i did, somehow, someway, you would hunt me down and kill me. MAGNEDETH 02:28, 15 January 2008 (UTC)


There should be an evolution of Sableye if there's an evolution of Mawile! And it should have Wonder Guard. File:Ani164MS.gifShiny Noctowl  21:30, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

yes to evolution, no to Wonder Guard..hehe MAGNEDETH 21:46, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Why shouldn't it have Wonder Guard? File:Ani164MS.gifShiny Noctowl  21:51, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
You can see some of my other ideas here. File:Ani164MS.gifShiny Noctowl  21:53, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Didn't I already explain to you why NO Wonder Guard? Because a Dark/Ghost type Pokemon has no weakness, and one having Wonder Guard would be entirely unfair and IILEGAL in the metagame. Goodness. Mudkipchan 22:28, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, it wouldn't be invincible. All you would need is a pokemon with Foresight and a Fighting type move. Still, it would be hard. Random279

i dont want to sound like a jerk, but no, its not going to happen, if it did, i would stop playing Pokemon MAGNEDETH 23:20, 4 January 2008 (UTC)


I think there should be an evolution of breloom, with less weaknesses. Just spitballing. --133Darth196Cookie197Monster471 01:11, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

idk, theres not much that can be done there. Breloom is a Grass/Fighting type. theres been no pokemon that gains a type, then gets rid of it. if anything, i was considering a middle evolution because Shroomish is some tiny blob with no limbs and suddenly its a full size FIGHTING type! it didnt even have arms before!! MAGNEDETH 06:17, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Never any middle-intermediate evos, and besides... why mess with it when the final product is the same...? TTEchidnaFire echyGSDS! 07:45, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
so on that basis, Breloom is untouchable. MAGNEDETH 21:53, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
It could have another evolution, or Shroomish could have an alternate evo. TTEchidnaFire echyGSDS! 22:54, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
yea, i suppose, but grass types are so unuseable... MAGNEDETH 23:24, 3 January 2008 (UTC)


Thr... Thr... Throw it off a cliff!? Are you just being funny are have you gone mad?486PokeManiac102492 23:30, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

maybe both? MAGNEDETH 23:41, 3 January 2008 (UTC)


Why don't they have a baby form of Plusle/Minum. It could evolve like Tyrogue. And also, they should have an evolved form, and you have to level up Plusle with a MinusCharge, and Minum with a Plus Charge Random279

i like that idea, ill think about it MAGNEDETH 23:22, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Maybe they could both evolve into the same thing? That would be a first. (like the idea of charges, they could neutralize them, further this idea of dual prevos for one evo) -Theininen 17:08, 27 March 2008 (UTC)


I think Kecleon might get an evolved form sooner or later. Aside from the fact that it's a mere novelty Pokémon, it lacks Hyper Beam and Giga Impact. The majority of Pokémon that can use those moves are fully evolved.--Pokencyclopedia 20:56, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

He can't learn those? Certainly something I'll look into. I was also looking into a Ditto or Smeargle evo. MAGNEDETH 23:24, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, I never realized that until I was fixing up Kecleon's article yesterday.--Pokencyclopedia 13:09, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Lunatone and Solrock

What about a pre-evolveded forms of Lunatone and Solrock, kind of like Tyrouge, who evolves into at night or day. --133Darth196Cookie197Monster471 23:33, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

makes sence to me, though it seems a tad unnecesary. MAGNEDETH 03:18, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Arcanine and Ninetails

How about Fire/Ghost type evo for Ninetails and a Fire/Dragon type evo for Arcanine? Since the two are based on the wp:Kitsune and wp:Imperial guardian lion respectivly Manga-in-a-bottle 06:47, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

The only problem: Stone evolutions never evolve. TTEchidnaFire echyGSDS! 06:53, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
i dont see the problem with stone evo pokemon evolving, but Arcanine being a fire/dragon type, hmm, idk. but on my do over page i said Ninetails should be a fire/ghost type. in the mean time, i dont see that as a bad thing. MAGNEDETH 17:14, 5 January 2008 (UTC)


I really think Skarmory needs an evolution. It has good typing, fairly good moves, but it stats just aren't good enough. It's defense stat is high, but low compared to pokemon such as Aggron, Regirock, and Cloyster. Also, it says on it's Pokedex entrythat it can go over 180mph, but it is slower than pokemon like Magikarp and Rattatta. So, it really needs a faster evolution. Random279

done. MAGNEDETH 18:41, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

I've also been thinking that Skarmory should have a prevolution.--Pokencyclopedia 21:34, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

given Skarmory's 25 catch rate, that wouldnt be a bad idea MAGNEDETH 08:24, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Oh so close. Its base stat total is 570. If it was at least 600, and you made a prevolution, it could be a Pseudo-legendary.486PokeManiac102492 18:46, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Then give it an evelution with more BA stats!--Quick Man107 21:00, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

idk, it wouldnt really qualify because you can catch Skarmory in the wild MAGNEDETH 22:17, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
Doh... Well since you made Jetmach, you can make it to not be able to appear in the wild.486PokeManiac102492 22:20, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
technically yes, but most psuedos have rediculous attack stats and Jetmach does not. if i bumped its stats anywhere, it would be Sp. Def. even then, it would fall into the Slaking catigory. powerful, but not psuedo. MAGNEDETH 22:24, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
True. Oh well. too bad...486PokeManiac102492 22:30, 8 January 2008 (UTC)


You haven't thought of a name yet? I don't know if it is good or not but how bout Matrare?486PokeManiac102492 19:00, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

whats that? mattress and rare? MAGNEDETH 19:01, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Matte and rare.486PokeManiac102492 19:02, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Hello? Are you there? Are you dead?486PokeManiac102492 19:12, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
yea, i was rearging and modding the page. as for the name, hows about "Mattare"? i think it flows better. MAGNEDETH 19:24, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Sure. It took only an hour for me to decide between one or two "t"s anyway. It looks better without the "r" too.486PokeManiac102492 19:25, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
I'd suggest the name "Mialoof", but a guy name lydario from Deviantart already made up a Dunsparce evo with that name.--Pokencyclopedia 21:31, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Can you cite a reference? MAGNEDETH 08:23, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Here[1]!--Pokencyclopedia 18:10, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Not bad. You can change if you want.486PokeManiac102492 18:02, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Oh MAGNEDETH would have been dead already if he was just sitting there waiting for you to answer.486PokeManiac102492 18:12, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
It's better. Change it if you want.486PokeManiac102492 18:58, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
well, untill i can think of another name, ill leave that there. im not stealing his name if i didnt know he created it already.. MAGNEDETH 22:18, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

My Ideas

Lapras, Ditto, Xatu, Quilfish, Heracross, Shuckle, Corsola

Do you think Lapras should have an evolution or a prevolution?486PokeManiac102492 19:37, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Lapras'd be good for a prevo. Not evolution, as it's great as it is. Tina δ 19:42, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
I have the same thoughts.486PokeManiac102492 19:44, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
as soon as i saw "Lapras" i thought prevo. also, dont just barf text like that poke102, start a new section. make it somthing like "my ideas" MAGNEDETH 19:51, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

How bout Luvdisc or Chatot?486PokeManiac102492 19:53, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Ditto doesn't need anything, imo.
Qwilfish is pretty weak, so I'd think that it'd get an evo.
Everyone in competitive battling loves Heracross. I think a prevo'd be good.
Corsola should get both. :p
Sableye should get an evo. Something that'd look at Spiritomb and say 'Hey, he's equal to me.' instead of 'Man I wish I was that strong.'
Zangoose and prevo, yes, Seviper and evo, yes.
Luvdisc and Chatot should get an evo. Luvdisc does like.. nothing good, seriously. At least I could kick ass with my Chatot.
Just my little 2 cents. Tina δ 19:53, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

I was thinking either evos for Zangoose and Sevi, or Prevos for Zangoose and Viper. 486PokeManiac102492 19:55, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Dammit I had like, 5 edit conflicts on this thing. e_e Tina δ 19:55, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
before i go any further, id like to tell Pokemaniac102 to STOP POSTING ONE THING AT A TIME! i cant reply if i keep getting edit conflicts. MAGNEDETH 19:56, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Oh I finished.486PokeManiac102492 19:57, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
ok, i think Luvdisc shouldnt exsist in the first place MAGNEDETH 20:00, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Are you that heartless?486PokeManiac102492 20:02, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Luvdisc is a good idea, but Chatot isn't yet. A Shedinja prevo would be good as well. Random279|Random279 20:02 , 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Shedninja already has one.486PokeManiac102492 20:05, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Chatot could probibly use an evo, as for Shedinja, it already has one, its called Nincada MAGNEDETH 20:07, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
MY FIRST EDIT CONFLICT! Chatot is a great idea.486PokeManiac102492 20:08, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
I mean as in if you breed Shedinja it will hatch into this and not Nincada. This page really needs less edit conflicts. Random279 20:12, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
IT IS GENDERLESS!486PokeManiac102492 20:13, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Ditto is genderless, and you can breed that! Random279 20:15, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
i can breed Magnemite, the real point is that theres no reason to have a Shedinja thing MAGNEDETH 20:16, 5 January 2008 (UTC)


There should be a Bug/Ice type evo, or maybe a Bug/Electric. Random279 20:31, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

well, i was thinking Voltbeat and Illunice, or something to that effect. MAGNEDETH 20:35, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
I would've thought that Volbeat and Illumise would have evos that were Bug/Electric and Bug/Fire respectively.--Pokencyclopedia 21:34, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Actually I was thinking Volbeat has an evo with Bug/Fire and Illumise an evo with Bug/Ice. But, I'll stop placing comments here if it keeps bothering MAGNEDETH.486PokeManiac102492 03:40, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
no, its fine, i was just getting annoyed when 4 people are editing and i get conflicts. as for the Pokemon, well, they are LIGHTNING bugs, arent they? MAGNEDETH 08:25, 6 January 2008 (UTC)


Misdreavus and Murkrow need a pre evelution, They got weaker with their new evelutions Mismagius and Honchkrow, Repectfully. Murkow aire my favorite Flying type Pokémon and I just didn't like the fact they got weaker. Misdreavus has the best attack in Pokémon (Pain split) and is exclusive to that family without sketch/Breeding and Mismagius is just creepy, so I think that is why Misdreavus needs a pre Evelution, so it isn't as weak to that creepy excuse for a pokémon!--Quick Man107 21:39, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

NO They both are already too weak.486PokeManiac102492 21:41, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Weaker? Wha? Honchkrow is more powerful that Murkrow. TTEchidnaFire echyGSDS! 03:31, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
...uh. Anything that got an evo, imo, doesn't need a prevo.
Also, creepy isn't a good excuse for a prevo. At all. >_> Tina δ 03:33, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Anything that JUST got an evo needs no prevo. Wait a couple gens. TTEchidnaFire echyGSDS! 04:02, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Mismagius makes Misdreavus usable, and Honchkrow is incredibly powerful. yea, his defence sucks, but his attack is 125!! MAGNEDETH 22:21, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

I personally consider 120+ in any stat excellent, especially in Attack or Special Attack. TTEchidnaFire echyGSDS! 10:26, 10 January 2008 (UTC)


Why shouldn't Luvdisc get an evo. It is nearly as pathetic as it gets.486PokeManiac102492 22:33, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Luvdisk is getting an evo, and im quite happy with it, just give me time to post it, ive been incredibly busy recently. MAGNEDETH 04:18, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Eules and Hikorisu

You don't mind if I use them on my own new evo page, do you? TTEchidnaFire echyGSDS! 10:24, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

go for it MAGNEDETH 04:19, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Choking and Notyp

I think weezing should have a new evolution that is both poison and dark, It could evolve by dusk stone and maybe be called Hakking. It would have a much greater movepool if it was half dark. (Sorry, I did not mean to put it on here twice!!)Moldy orange 18:11 10 January 2008

Hakking? That's a name I came up with for a Koffing pre-evo! -- Glitch and Official Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. In my opinion, the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by Missingno. Master 02:04, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

I made a Hakking too! It evolved from James's Weezing along with Jessie's Arbok becoming Nohtyp. Zurqoxn 03:27, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
hmmm, Weezing evo, makes sence to me, while were at it, lets give Arbok one too. maybe they could return to the anime for jessie and james!! MAGNEDETH 04:20, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

alright, im sure people wont be happy with Choking getting arms and legs. as for not using "Hakking" i decided it was too close to "hacking" as in cheating. as for "Nohtyp", i dont want to sound like a jerk, but i cant give you credit for it because while creating it myself, i gave it the same name. i didnt know you had also called it that untill i came here to post this that im typing right now. MAGNEDETH 06:04, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

I always envisaged a Poison/Ice Weezing evo... Sneezing... -- SeriousDom 08:32, 7 April 2008 (UTC)


yes i know Pokencyclopedia already has a Chimecho evolution on his page, but i thought of this a few days ago, i just didnt get around to it untill now. MAGNEDETH 05:35, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

About the Onix evo

Pokémon can't hold two items at the same time. --File:Ani048MS.gifケンジFile:Ani183MS.gifガールFile:Ani123MS.gif 00:57, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

oops, fixed. sucks because that sounded good you like the "Super Quick Claw"? MAGNEDETH 01:03, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Hell yeah! XD. It'd be cool if that item's battle effect was to guarantee a first strike every single time. --File:Ani048MS.gifケンジFile:Ani183MS.gifガールFile:Ani123MS.gif 01:07, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
well, now yur just talking hax. but i figure, more effective version of the Quick Claw, as in, works twice as often. MAGNEDETH 01:09, 16 January 2008 (UTC)


It's gummi bears and milk in the same glass. That's The Che-- I mean, the Kucheat's favorite drink. ;) Tina δ 01:23, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

thats disgusting, but thanks for telling me MAGNEDETH 01:28, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Skim milk. TTEchidnaFire echyGSDS! 05:59, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
i dont like skim milk, but, thats prefrence i guess MAGNEDETH 22:57, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Chemical Plant

Level up near chemical plant?!

Spiderman, Spiderman, does whatever a spider can....

Maybe Ariados bit spiderman? --133Darth196Cookie197Monster471 01:56, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

well, he could i suppose, but Spiderman was via radioactive spider bite. MAGNEDETH 02:07, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

I know (GAH) just found the similarity humorous :) why not call him arachna dude? Thank you Nuklear power!--133Darth196Cookie197Monster471 02:11, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

well, his name is "Arantula" as in "arachnid" and "tarantula" MAGNEDETH 02:14, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

you should include a chemical name in their. Just spitballin --133Darth196Cookie197Monster471 02:15, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

hmmm, Mercantula, Mercury and Tarantula. it just doesnt work as well.. MAGNEDETH 02:17, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

how about Vanatula= Vanadium+Tarantula

It may not be poisinous (I think) but it was discovered, then incorrectly declared not an elemant (you know, maybe it was declared a shiny ariados, or something) --133Darth196Cookie197Monster471 22:12, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

giving it an elemental name doesnt really fit. chemicals and elements arent really similar...i could say that maybe the Steel Factory produces lots of waste which attracts poison pokemon. or maybe, a ladfill? MAGNEDETH 22:59, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Problem with Ariados and also evolutions.

Arantula is ALREADY a Paper Mario 2-enemy. There can't be a pokémon with the same name as a Mario enemy?
BTW, I got some good evolutions:

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youve got some good ideas, why not create your own page and post them? MAGNEDETH 00:08, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Long time since an addition

Haven't been here in a long time. Stopping to smell the roses. *breathing in and coughing* Good Night 486PokeManiac102492 03:17, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

yea, ive been rather busy. MAGNEDETH 03:39, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Finally...486PokeManiac102492 18:07, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
yea, just some quick ones that came to me. MAGNEDETH 19:02, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
I see486PokeManiac102492 19:14, 24 February 2008 (UTC)


Shuckle? I don't know why, but he has been around a while, and no one really knows about him. Despite your "dislike for tanks" (yes, i read your hate page, but still, i think that he deserves a little consideration!!), I think that he should get a little recognition!

Ditto deserves an evo!!! It's been around since Gen one, and IT CAN STIL ONLY LEARN ONE MOVE!!! c'mon, he deserves SOMETHING better, right? someone agree with me please -Theininen 03:01, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Essentially all a Ditto evo would and should be is a bigger blob with higher defenses and Speed. TTEchidna 05:43, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
shuckle cant evolve because hes already a super tank. what more could he have? as for Ditto, its really not worth it. TTE is right. just more blob and slightly better stats. no one would use it for anything but breeding anyway. MAGNEDETH 01:06, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
Well, if Ditto learned some moves, he could at least be used. Seriously, who have you seen that uses a Ditto for battles? As for Shuckle, if his def was lowered, atk raised, mayb he would be..(for lack of a better word) better? see my customs page (after we can use userpages again) for a kind of cool idea i had for him. -Theininen 02:13, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
well, you have to realize, Ditto is solely a copy pokemon. it copies the opponent. thus the name, Ditto. as for Shuckle, its specifically designed as a tank. and thats it. MAGNEDETH 03:09, 30 March 2008 (UTC)