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Moveanime template images

I wrote on the Moveanime talk page about increasing the image count from 4 to 5 several months ago since Kenji-girl had a rule about showing the images per series (currently five) but there wasn't any response about it. I wasn't sure if it was being discussed or it was forgotten about since it is a template used in many pages. PattyMan 17:16, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

I'll have a talk with Kenji-girl about it, see what her ideas on it are. The biggest issue I see with trying to have an image from every series is that it will eventually result in far too many pictures in the template to fit. We'll look into what should be the best option. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 00:47, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
We should be able to update the template to add up to two more images, at absolute maximum. I'll get working on an update in my userspace when I am finished with the spritebox upgrades. If we ever get beyond the need for six images, we'll have to consider other options. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 07:33, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Concerning Glitchdex work

As SnorlaxMonster hasn't replied to my messages in a year, and I need an answer before I do anything, I figured I'd come and ask you, the new EiC. I left two messages on SnorlaxMonster's talk page. Could you possibly answer my questions? Thanks. --×Rsrdaman× 07:17, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

The new availability templates should make your first question mostly obsolete. The new templates aren't all bunched together like the old ones, and should allow the freedom to only list the generations (and games) needed for glitches. As for the Missingno. sprites question, I'll have to take some time and look into the issue & get back to you on that one. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 07:33, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
Sorry for, as a third user, entering this conversation, and late, but the fact is that, having only noticed this conversation right now, I feel an urge to tell you I'm on exactly the same situation, with other glitch-related matters. Despite having written several "reminder" sections, SnorlaxMonster always seemed to have dodged them in a certain way. Since I believe your EiC experience and staff rights are probably enough to solve most of the problems in question, could you please take a look at them? Thanks for the attention. オリナル TheOriginalOne 22:25, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
I've had a talk with SnorlaxMonster, and he's been responding to much of his talk page backlog. Check back there for responses. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 21:38, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Username Change

First off I am sorry to bother you with this request and I hope it is not to hard. I would like to change my username to Cryptic Midnight. The reason why I want this username change is because I had a 11 year-old mentality when I first created my account. I was dumb and put my first initial and last name in my username. I now realize at the age of 16 that this was very dumb and I hope you can fix it. Sincerely, Dbeckelheimer6 (talk) 03:27, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Renames are typically restricted to users who are regularly active, and have made more than 500 contributions. If you remain active through the rest of May, I can rename your account for you. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 03:37, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Userspace edits request

Hey Kogoro, may I have permission to edit some errors that are found on userspace pages. I found these errors through the wanted pages list. Adamws (talk) 04:38, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Permission isn't required to fix links causing unwanted entries to the wanted pages. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 06:00, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
Just making sure. Adamws (talk) 22:49, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
Yes, I know. I was only changing the red links. Any that I couldn't fix (ie. no clue how to fix), I left those ones alone. Adamws (talk) 23:27, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
I don't believe changing move types has anything to do with fixing the typing mistakes that caused unwanted entries on the wanted pages. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 23:29, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
Sorry about that. That won't happen again. Adamws (talk) 18:11, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Just to clarify

So basically, anything located in the moves pages and moving pages are stuff that definitely require staff approval, as well as anything on a lot of pages? On another topic, I have been doing a good job with adding the appearances of moves in the manga, right? This wouldn't count that time with the Double-Edge incident which I got to admit that it was wrong of me to make those massive edits that led to the block. PattyMan 20:59, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Anything regarding moving a large segment of information from one page to another (or to a subpage) should get staff approval, to be sure that it's a necessary action and that the best action is taken. What you've been doing with manga additions to the move articles seems fine to me, but I'd suggest checking with Ataro to see if there's any suggestions he may have. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 08:30, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

Forums?

Hi. I have a question. What are forums? Sometimes when I discuss something about a character or a Pokémon on their talk page, people delete what I write and always say "That goes on the forums." Can you explain to me why people are doing that to me? I don't want to cause any trouble. --PKMNAdventurer (talk) 05:30, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

The Bulbagarden Forums, they're full of discussion regarding Pokémon. Including theories, speculation, people's opinions regarding all segments of the franchise, and a whole lot more. Anything that isn't about improving an article, or discussing edits, is very likely to be forums material rather than something to be posted on talk pages. The recent one about Serena was okay for a talk page, though it heavily read like a general complaint against the character rather than a question about trivia. I apologize for the revert there, and I've responded to the question at hand. (The timestamps got confused, however, making the reply seem like it didn't happen... Silly software.) - Kogoro - Talk to me - 05:38, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
That's ok. Thank you. :) --PKMNAdventurer (talk) 06:23, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

TPP article Edit Timer

Does the 6 hour rule apply to things like fixing minor table errors, or should that be left to someone else (i.e. EB) during that "do not edit" time period? For example, this is simply missing a |- in the table, and has a stray comment tail after it. (All in all that's probably a 0 byte change but doing it would reset the timer). Schiffy (瀬藤健二) (Talk Contribs) 15:48, 5/31/2014 (UTC)

Small fixes are typically best done moments after the last update, so the timer doesn't get reset too massively, or done with the next major update. If you spot a problem, leave a note on the talk page and a staff member should handle it. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 19:28, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks for putting the Type Effectiveness chart up for Mega Sceptile.

I had just figured 99% of it out before I saw your edit. All I needed to left was to google the alt code for ¼ and I would have had it lol. It took me a while, and I cursed so bad in frustration, that a Grimmer would have put soap in my mouth, but at least I know what to do for the next time.

Anyways, thanks again for putting the chart up and cheers.Yamitora1 (talk) 07:19, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

DP185 picture

I don't know what went wrong, but I just changed the picture for DP185 without changing the filename, but now it's not displaying any picture at all in the template anymore. I have never had that happen. --The Great Butler (talk) 04:28, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Image appears fine for me. Have you tried hard refreshing the article? - Kogoro - Talk to me - 02:30, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Bulbagarden Forums

I sent you a PM there concerning a project here, if you haven't received it yet. I'm fine with discussing it further on either site, whatever works for you. Just letting you know. Drake Clawfang (talk) 21:28, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Username rename request

Will you please change "SaturnMario" to "General Xerneas"? I like my new username better. SaturnMario, his talk and his contributions 01:53, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Renames are something we offer to active editors, and your activity has been on the low side as of late. Because of this, I can't approve your rename at this time. If you bring your activity up, you can ask me again. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 02:30, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Couple pages for mainspace

(As a preamble, I'd like to say it was nice when the Candidates for merging/moving/mainspacing/splitting thread was in use, so people (I) at least had some idea that the staff was considering stuff at all. At the moment, I don't have the first clue what staff is or isn't up to...)

The pages:

I would appreciate if staff would consider approving these to move into the mainspace. In either case, if some modification is called for, that's fine, but these subjects definitely deserve pages in the mainspace.

Re:hotel hoppers:
Stuff like Camphrier Town#Pokémon really is not adequate: the hotels are not random, and users should not have to be searching about Kalos for the hotels these people appear in (or even searching the ones they've seen them appear in to find the hotel a specific person is in that day). There's really no good way to communicate this information except in a page more or less like the one I made. If that page is in the mainspace, this sort of thing (or this) can easily contain a link to that page.

Re:Juice Shoppe:
The Juice Shoppe juices are basically Kalos's Pokeblocks or Poffins: you combine Berries to get something to feed to your Pokemon. In this case, instead of affecting Contest stats, they affect EVs, levels, and friendship. Though the Juice Shoppe may be confined to Lumiose City, the juice mechanics are quite irrelevant to Lumiose; they deserve their own page. ...Thinking of it in the light of Pokeblocks and Poffins, I suppose the page could be named "Berry juice" and the Lumiose page could talk generally about the shop and link to that page for the mechanics (and that page would take out the stuff about the shop in general). ...The problem is, "Berry Juice" conflicts with the Berry Juice drink... Maybe "Berry Juice (Kalos)" or something? Well, under whatever name, the mechanics should be on a separate page rather than unnecessarily cluttering up the Lumiose City article. (A suggestion was previously made to include some pictures, but I don't know how I'm expected to get any, and the page should not languish indefinitely in the userspace just because there is no convenient means for the average user to get good pictures...) Tiddlywinks (talk) 00:59, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

We intend to work through nominees for moving, merging, mainspacing, etc. gradually through staff meetings. So, we'll try to look into your pages during our next meeting. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 03:40, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Kalos secondary type "triangle"

I would like staff to weigh in on whether the Kalos secondary types (Dark/Psychic/Fighting) form a "triangle" analogous to the primary types (Water/Fire/Grass). (This stems mostly from here and here.) I don't know where I should ask this so I bring the request directly to you.

The short of it is, Dark/Psychic/Fighting come so close to the exact same relationship as Water/Fire/Grass that I cannot see it as anything but intentional. I.e., that the designers intended it as a parallel to the "triangle" of the primary types. In five whole generations, there has basically been only one single data point for the starters' "type triangle". However, a definition based only on one example is inherently and massively flawed. Considering Water/Fire/Grass and Dark/Psychic/Fighting together, though, it's easy to see a triangular pattern/definition that fits both: "Type X has an offensive and defensive advantage against Type Y".

It is apparent to me that the designers made this choice deliberately. Our definition of a "triangle" (if "we" have one) is effectively artificial in the first place; I see no good reason to not accept a definition that actually fits the pattern that the designers were by all appearances aiming for with the Kalos starters' final forms. Tiddlywinks (talk) 04:28, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

It's not our place to assume what Game Freak's intentions were. If it's something where the fandom will never be in reasonable agreement over, it may be better to simply leave it to people's imaginations & not try to class it as anything. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 03:40, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Question

It's been over a year, can I be removed from the abuse and forcepreview groups? TheShinyRoggenrola (talk) 13:15, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Restrictions have been removed. Do be responsible with the privileges. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 03:40, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
Thank you. TheShinyRoggenrola (talk) 17:12, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Talk Page

What is a talk page best pokemon master

Any page that contains a prefix with the word "talk" in it, such as this very page, is a talk page. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 03:40, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Another question

Can you delete the Pokémon lacking disambiguation notices category? Den Zen says it's no longer needed. TheShinyRoggenrola (talk) 22:04, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Categories should not be deleted until they have been cleared out. Since the category still contains a significant number of articles, it will not be deleted at this time. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 00:40, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
So should I (or perhaps User:BulbaBot) start to remove the articles from the category? TheShinyRoggenrola (talk) 12:10, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
The category isn't causing any harm by existing, and isn't a priority to remove. The staff will handle the category when we have the time to worry about it. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 18:29, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Adding pages

I have looked all around on how to make pages - specifically my user page - but they say you have to make edits to the main space. I have made several edits to the main space and it still won't let me make pages. Can you help me? --Derpyderpy (talk) 14:30, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

In order to create pages, users must make enough edits and their account must exist for enough time. Neither of these requirements will ever be given out by the staff, as to prevent people from abusing the system in order to make a user page. Just keep on making useful edits to the mainspace, and the privilege will eventually be granted by the system. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 18:29, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
Got it. Thanks! --Derpyderpy (talk) 12:40, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

A third question

Why don't I have permission to upload images to Bulbagarden Archives? TheShinyRoggenrola (talk) 16:57, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Just like creating pages on Bulbapedia, it's required for an account to become autoconfirmed on the Archives before the ability to upload is activated. You can help out by cleaning up image summaries/categories until such happens, or you can make upload requests to the Archives staff. As an additional note, Archives-related comments/questions/concerns should be posted on the Archives, not Bulbapedia. Thanks. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 02:50, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Curious Query

Force Fire sent me your way with this question.

I think I've proven by now, even with my sporadic editing, that I'm not a troublesome editor. Meanwhile, I predict that the site will go on lockdown on or just before November 21. Since I edit sporadically, and I like doing my own edits (since I am a grammar Nazi and somesuch), I'd like to know how I can avoid being slammed by a lockdown. I've also done some updating on Gen. VI moves after the lockdown was lifted from X/Y, but could have done a lot more had I not been stopped for a while (I could have confirmed a lot of learned moves throughout my play). Further, I sometimes edit little bits or edit for grammar on episode articles, which have nothing to do with the games and are still hit by a lockdown. Finally, I've tried requesting edits before, but I never got any response from anyone; basically, staff were too busy with new games to answer anything else.

So my question is this: how can I avoid being barred from editing pages during any brief lockdown in the event I have an insightful edit to make? I can even help with requested edits during any such lockdown if I'm not busy with something else at the time. CycloneGU (talk) 01:42, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

There is no guaranteed way to get on the list of users that are given the ability to edit while editing is locked. Users that are given the ability are selected by the staff, and are typically editors who are regularly active, have shown to be skilled & dedicated contributors, and those who will help in sections that need regular updates during the edit lock. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 02:50, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
Darn. I hate being locked out by such a thing. I still can't understand why they need to lock the entire site for an extended period of time; I think it would make more sense to have people monitor the Recent Changes page and quickly reverse anything that's wrong. Wikipedia marks changes that have not been confirmed yet as well, making it easy to know what to look at. The page might have a different name, however. CycloneGU (talk) 23:09, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
It's a necessary evil in order to get work done in timely and efficient manner. In the past, we weren't able to lock editing and the mass of false information, rumors, and blatant vandalism was so great that the staff had to near-exclusively focus on reverting these issues. Because of this, information on the new games took well over twice as long to get up as it takes now with the ability to temporarily lock editing. The fans want information as soon as possible, and our aim is to have accurate information up to best meet with these demands. I am sorry you're disappointed regarding the edit locks, but they're for the best. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 01:25, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, that's why I'm trying to see if I can get past that before it hits. When it does hit, I never hear from anyone, even if I'm trying to make an edit that never gets made. That turns out as a bad experience. Ya know what I mean? =)
That said, there is less information to do this time, so I can't see why the entire site would need locking this time. There might be a few changes to movesets (hey, FR/LG did it, I think HG/SS did it), but those should be quick to verify if someone posts one. I could even test them if I have the Pokémon. LOL Unless that's where Move Tutors get added, and then updating pages with Secret Power (for instance) would be a mess; that I can understand. CycloneGU (talk) 04:02, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

New Template:Sign

There are two problems with the Sign template.

1) It's implemented rather horribly, asking you to use the template repeatedly for rather trivial reasons. If we would just let the user format the lines for the sign manually, the whole thing can easily be handled in one call. ...Fixing the current template to work like this either means temporarily breaking all current uses of it or creating a new template.

2) The BW sign that someone created is hugely complicated by its constant use of Template:!. ...To solve this, it'd be nice to just create a separate template for this sign where it can build a table properly/legibly.

So: can I split the Sign template into templates for each Gen like Sign/1, Sign/2 (redirect to 1 for now maybe), and so on? That way I can write the new templates correctly without breaking everything, and BW can build its table cleanly (and they'll just generally be less crowded). Then I can go and update all the current usages of Sign to these new templates. (...All the mainspace uses at least shouldn't be too bad.) Tiddlywinks (talk) 00:09, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Bump...
This seems to me like it should be a pretty simple decision, turning a complicated template into a simple one(s). Tiddlywinks (talk) 02:02, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
It's not a real top-priority template to change, but it's not a bad idea to clean it up and make it more manageable. You're welcome to build up split versions in your userspace & make sure they're working correctly. Let me know when you've got them working, then we'll look into getting them live. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 06:39, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
I have created the templates: User:Tiddlywinks/Sign/1, User:Tiddlywinks/Sign/3, User:Tiddlywinks/Sign/4, and User:Tiddlywinks/Sign/5. I have also created some usage examples based off of current uses of Template:Sign around the wiki. They should all look exactly the same (or nearly so) as the current template produces. I haven't done exhaustive testing, but I believe these templates all work fine, so I now present them for your inspection. Tiddlywinks (talk) 16:55, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Rayquaza ex δ Card Picture

The page Rayquaza ex δ (EX Dragon Frontiers 97) has a message at the top stating that the picture is not of good quality. Therefore, here is a better scan: [1]. Moaz786 (talk) 00:07, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

While we appreciate the attention and time you spent getting the image and changing the file extension, card images of poor quality should be replaced with actual card scans, and not from the non holofoil images from the official site. It eliminates extra temporary files that, in the end, will need to be replaced with higher quality images anyway. MaverickNate 01:58, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

City population counts

Do you know how they are supposed to be counted, or does every person who adds them decide whether to include or exclude certain people? For example, should Pokémon Center nurses or Poké Mart employees be counted? --Abcboy (talk) 15:21, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Includes everyone who populates the town/city. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 18:52, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

{{Dead link}}

On very old comments over a year, would it be okay to add the {{Dead link}} template to external links that no longer work? I wasn't sure about doing that so I'm asking you. PattyMan 04:51, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

That template is really meant for mainspace use, not talk pages. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 18:52, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Rename request

May I please have my name changed from "詹玮键" to "Yuuki Asuna".As this is an English wiki, I feel that it would be better for me to use a username in English,Thanks. --Asuna 11:05, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

I can't do so right at the moment, but I should be able to do so on Monday or Tuesday. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 18:52, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
Thank you.Asuna 08:44, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Bulbapedia API or JSON Bulbapedia Library

Does there happen to be an API or a Library in JSON format available for this site and its Pokémon data? I would like to create a Pokémon RP bot that would make use of commands to keep track of XP, Evolution, Learned Moves, TMs, Health, and some battle stats. If I could somehow acquire a link or a download page for a library that would be a great starting point. SomePerson (talk) 01:16, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Due to the nature of this request, I'm currently discussing this with my superiors and unable to give you an answer at the moment. When I have an answer for you, I'll let you know. Thank you for your patience, - Kogoro - Talk to me - 08:06, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
After discussing it with the superiors, it's been decided that isn't not really something we're capable of offering for technical reasons, nor is it something we wish to be involved with. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 21:38, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

I need permission for Upload picture

I need permission for Upload picture (Pokemon pictures, List of episodes picture and general pictureT), you can permit me ? Thank you -- User:Tomarzig Talk 15:21, 03 September 2014 (ICT)

The manually-added group that allows non-established contributors to upload is restricted to well-established Bulbapedia/Bulbanews editors, or individuals approved for uploading Pokémon X and Y content. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 02:25, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
Thank for Information, I upload pokemon pictures but not have permission to create new pages and cannot overwrite this file. How to setting permission for me. Thank you-- User:Tomarzig Talk 11:58, 05 September 2014 (ICT)
In order to be able to upload, you will need to help out on the Archives by doing smaller tasks, such as adding missing categories, fixing up image summaries, and the like. If you believe a file needs to be changed, you're also welcome to post an upload request on the file's talk page, or to send one to a member of the Archives staff. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 21:38, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Unnamed section

Hello, I am an admin on another (wikia) wiki, and i need your help. How to distinguish the names of admins from regular users? I am not copying any code fom BulbaGarden, i just need to know where to do it. Please help me. →PikaTepig999 09:35, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

It's done via CSS. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 02:25, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
I tried doing it. but it doesn't work. So could you give me an example of the code please ? →PikaTepig999 04:03, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
A simple version, specific to Special:RecentChanges would be:
.page-Special_RecentChanges [title="User:Example"] {
style code goes here
}
Hope that helps, - Kogoro - Talk to me - 04:33, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
Well it is only working for one user. Anyway, Thnaks for your time! →PikaTepig999 08:11, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

Adding to trivia

Hi, Kogoro. I want to add to the trivia on Professor Sycamore: to date, he has given out the most starter Pokémon to date, with a grand total of 8. Blazingfist recommended me going here. Does it seem like it's notable or suitable enough? WATERWARRIOR67 (talk) 12:43, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Since it's an anime fact, it would need to be noted that it's specific to the anime. Otherwise, it's an interesting enough little factoid to include. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 23:30, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

I am Looking for Work

Hey, Kogoro. As I read through information I saw that you are the Editorial Chief for this wiki. The information I am looking to get from you is what kind of work could you and do you want me to do (if any). I am a competitive Pokémon player and I also collect Pokémon TCG. I do not watch the anime as much and thus I am not as knowledgeable in that area. Also, what would you recommend to read in order to learn more about how to use templates and such? Thanks, SirFinkleBottom (talk) 17:16, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

I would suggest checking out Project Games and Project TCG, as well as the pages in the Bulbapedia guides and Bulbapedia policies categories. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask! - Kogoro - Talk to me - 06:01, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Projects

What on earth is going on with all of the projects? And why are we getting rid of project leaders? --リックEO (My message board) 05:11, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Projects are currently undergoing a massive upgrade that's been in the work for a very long time. These changes are being done in order to better focus the projects, and provide an easier environment for users to find things to help out with.
The Project Leader position has been retired for a number of reasons, the biggest being that the position was becoming stagnant. Most Project Leaders were members of staff, and projects needing new Leaders were proving to be extremely difficult to fill. It was felt that it would be better to offer a list of staff members to contact, and generally leave the decision making to the relevant staff section head. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 06:01, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Clothing templates approval?

I have created templates for use in constructing clothing tables, and I would like for staff to approve them for use in the mainspace. I have examples of the templates in use and links to each of the templates here: User:Tiddlywinks/Clothing/examples.

I am currently working to verify clothing schedules, and I expect to be finished with that by the end of this weekend, so if they could possibly approved a little sooner rather than later (like by sometime next week), that would make it a lot easier for me to import my verified data into Bulbapedia. Thanks. Tiddlywinks (talk) 00:17, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

Unfortunately, while the templates look nice and appear to function well, the row templates contain far too many parser (switch/if) statements to be approved. We're trying to reduce the number of such statements we use, as excessive use of them can cause pages to severely lag to the point of not loading. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 04:50, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
I thought about solutions and came up with a pretty simple way to achieve the same result without the "if"s on the day-of-the-week cells. So the only parser function of any kind that should be left in the templates is in the price cell (and it's only actually an "if" in the slot template). So how about now? Tiddlywinks (talk) 05:51, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
An impressively sneaky way to bypass a parser statement for something like that, clever. The templates look good, and should be alright to move to the template space. I would also suggest making a template for the header, at least for use on city/town articles. There's quite a few boutique locations already, and likely to be more with ORAS coming along. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 04:59, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
I'd like to make sure you're okay with User:Tiddlywinks/Clothing/header, then. It's got one "if" statement. I avoided this before because I personally prefer to avoid building a table with Template:!, but if I'm going to create any header template, I'd rather that users be able to make both headers than guess at a second that doesn't exist. (I could certainly make two, but my first preference is for one. I also made User:Tiddlywinks/Clothing/footer to round things out, but it's entirely straightforward. And both have been employed on the example page.) Tiddlywinks (talk) 06:04, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
They look great, and good call on making a footer as well. You have the green light to move them all to the template namespace and begin applying them. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 04:20, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Articles In Need Of Transformation

Hey, Korogo. I have something that I have been working on for a while. I just moved it from my main page into my sandbox. I think it could be useful. Let me know what you think. Thanks! Adamws (talk) 05:18, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

The staff is currently working diligently to get the split, merge, move, and mainspace candidates sorted and dealt with. Thank you for your interest in these matters, but I don't believe we will need what you have in your sandbox. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 07:28, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Staff privileges

What happens if a staff member on the Bulbapedia side hasn't been around for over a year? I know that the privileges get revoked on the Archives side. I noticed that a user hasn't been around for almost two years even though he is listed as staff. PattyMan 20:12, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

We'll be discussing staff changes after the ORAS edit lock is concluded. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 19:54, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Template:Dex/Entry4?

Could a four-game variant of the new Pokédex template be added? This would be used for Pokémon that have the same dex entry for all four Gen V games, particularly Hoenn and Sinnoh Pokémon. See: Treecko, Turtwig. - Chosen of Mana 16:10, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

I considered a four game variant when I was creating the templates, but it didn't look good, and it didn't appear to be advantageous to create a special variant for exclusive use by a single generation. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 19:54, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

ORAS dumped data

I know that the wiki was locked because of the ORAS data dumps and worrying about using leaked data before the games were out, but now that they are, is it okay to use that data now?

In particular, I'm wondering if it would be okay to use any information or images found here or here? (I have no idea about questions of permission.) Tiddlywinks (talk) 17:46, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

We don't condone using content from other fansites, we prefer to gather that information via our own tech crew or content that's been freely released for public use. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 08:23, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
Is the primary issue with the above links that it hasn't been gathered by Bulbapedia's own "tech crew", or that it hasn't been "released to the public" (and when you say "release", might you mean that it should be Nintendo's doing)? If it's the latter, I can certainly try to confirm whether those things are meant for the "public" or are else amenable to use on Bulbapedia.
In the meantime, SnorlaxMonster was willing to use dumped encounter data on Hoenn Route 118. Should that information be reverted to "??%", or is SnorlaxMonster using an approved reference that I could also reference? Tiddlywinks (talk) 11:02, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
You'll have to ask SnorlaxMonster regarding the source material, but we can confirm the data that has been added is correct. Apologies for the late response. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 01:51, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
I have obtained explicit permission to use the data in SciresM's Pastebin (notably containing ORAS encounter data). I hope that is enough to satisfy your concerns above. If not...well, encounter data's been seeping in on various pages and I've seen no pushback from staff; and you also said above that you "verified" SnorlaxMonster's added encounter data. So at worst, I hope you can also verify the encounter data that I intend to add and we can all be (relatively) happy.
SciresM also told me it would be okay to use what's in the Project Pokemon ORAS research directory on Bulbapedia. May I then upload things like minisprites for Megas from there to the Archives? Tiddlywinks (talk) 02:42, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Moveentry/TM3 and Others

I went to check on Dive earlier and tried testing for a split column in Gen. VI (like how HGSS, etc. splits Generation IV and E/FR/LG splits Generation III) and don't seem to see an available trigger for it yet. Not sure who specifically adds it, but can you please see that it's added? I've noted HM07 for now. CycloneGU (talk) 22:49, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Welcome back! Any chance you can do this sometime? I've already checked all Kalos species (up to Diancie, anyway, since we don't have Hoopa or Volcanion yet) so the split column will provide clarity that they can't learn Dive until OR/AS. CycloneGU (talk) 05:47, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
We're planning on moving away from the colored split-cell format of the current template, as the extreme number of parser functions needed for those cells are causing many move articles to have severe load lag. It's even caused some move articles to stop loading and required content splitting in order to get the articles functioning again. You can view a partial build of the upcoming conversion here. Ways to better denote method exclusivity will be handled in the new templates. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 08:30, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
Good to know. I'll go ahead and just put it for the entire column in the morning, then, with a tooltip that it only applies to OR/AS in the header. That should work. CycloneGU (talk) 08:44, 28 December 2014 (UTC)