User talk:FinnishPokéFan92/Archive 2

Archieved talks: User talk:FinnishPokéFan92/Archive 1 (archieved on November 5, 2015)

XY093 errors

Why did you erase the error section of All Eyes on the Future!? You said you disagree with them, but that doesn't make them any less of mistakes. Light Screen was shown protecting the male Meowstic from Talonflame's Flame Charge despite Light Screen only reducing damage from Special Attacks, like Frogadier's Water Pulse, not from Physical Attacks like Talonflame's Flame Charge. Later on in that episode, when Talonflame used Steel Wing on the male Meowstic, Professor Sycamore said that Light Screen doesn't work on Physical Attacks like Steel Wing. Later, Clemont claimed that Prankster was making Helping Hand a priority move when Helping Hand is already one to begin with, for Helping Hand always goes first even if the Pokémon using it didn't have Prankster as their ability. Keen Eye only prevents your Pokémon's accuracy from lowering and ignores an opponent's evasive stats. Professor Sycamore claimed that Psyshock was chasing Frogadier and Talonflame because the female Meostic had Keen Eye, but moments ago, you clearly see the Meowstic using Psychic to make the Psyshock go after Ash's Pokémon. That's why these are mistakes. --PKMNAdventurer (talk) 17:11, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Finally some Colo data

I finally got my rear in gear with some of that Colo/XD team data. I've got Colosseum teams now. Here's the file.

There are some comments in the file. The file is huge... I imagine the easiest thing will be to poke around BP's pages and just search for the right Trainers in the file. If you have any questions about anything, feel free to ask. =) Tiddlywinks (talk) 05:32, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Thanks a ton! I'll hopefully get on with it later today. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 05:56, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

I figured out a couple things I did wrong for that Colosseum data with the gender. Half is BP's Shadow and non-Shadow templates acting a bit differently when the "gender=" parameter is missing, and half is a separate mistake on my part. I'll fix that up later on and update the link above.

FYI, right now for XD, I've mostly got the story data converted (just testing a few Trainers, and finding things like that gender issue), but XD also has a good amount of data for other modes, which (with the lazy-ish way I'm doing it) will also be a bit of an annoyance to make work (mostly tedious). Tiddlywinks (talk) 21:43, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

XD data. I've also fixed up the Colosseum data (replaced above; if you wanna check some of the differences, try searching for Entei.)

Colosseum's gender data is pretty straightforward, so I think it's OK now, but XD's is less so... For now for XD, I've assumed all Shadow Pokemon have a random gender (so far as they can), and everything else's gender works like I *think* it does. If you're ever in doubt, you can always try to check playthrough videos. I've done that a bit already while testing my output, and where I have, my data was right (and not just for gender; though Abilities can be hard to be sure about). Tiddlywinks (talk) 22:09, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Hyperspace Hole

Did Hoopa literally used Hyperspace Hole in the movie when it was summoning Pokémon? Because someone told me it did. Seabiscuit2020 (talk) 20:21, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

I doubt it was Hyperspace Hole, since Hoopa Unbound did it too, and it already has four other moves. Remember, the anime has been pretty consistent with the "only four moves at a time" thing over the recent years, so... --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 05:40, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

That was Hyperspace Fury. It's Unbound Form doesn't use Hyperspace Hole. Only when it is in its Confined Form.Seabiscuit2020 (talk) 06:45, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

I know. That's what I was saying. The rings are just Hoopa's special power. Confined didn't use them as an attack, so it wasn't Hyperspace Hole. Also, Unbound used its rings the same way too, so it can't be that move. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 14:56, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Clemont's Inventions

Can you add the information of Clemont's inventions from XY088 and XY089, please? -- Seabiscuit2020 (talk) 22:10, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Old Amber

I don't understand why there's no need for that. In gen. I there weren't key items, and it doesnt say so in the text. ( first time: 8 November 2015 9:33:45 (UTC)) Lokki (talk) 20:04, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Items!

I just want to go into a bit more detail about why I like the order I wrote on Dewford Town. I can certainly understand reasons for liking other orderings, and it's hard to say what may be "always" best, so I think there's definitely room for discussion. =)

1) I don't think there should be any "separation" of the games (which I'm just guessing is the reason you put the Ribbon last on Dewford). I.e., I really don't like the idea of putting all the items that first appeared in RS first, then all the items that appeared in E (but not RS), then all the items that appeared in ORAS (but not RSE) (or whatever games). That's just confusing as hell in longer lists.

2) I think items should be listed by an order of traversal. Basically, pick something that at least makes some (consistent) sense, and stick to it. Basically, N to S then E to W, or E to W then N to S, or... Anyway, this one I'm kind of taking on a case-by-case, "how do I feel" sort of basis. Currently, I'm not entirely sure if it should very strictly obey the location's natural traversal (like, you first enter from N/S/E/W, so that's where the list should start), or if maybe it should always be "reading" order (left>right (E>W), top>bottom (N>S)), or what.

2b) I'm a little torn on whether accessibility requirements should affect the order things are listed in. I.e., when you first reach some places, you may not have an HM that will let you get some of the items, so any of those that you'd have to return for could be listed after all of the things you can get immediately. ...The thing that kind of tilts my opinion in this case is that, if you don't grab any items at first and only scour the town after you have all necessary HMs (like in the postgame), then a single, coherent listing of all the items is best, otherwise you may be forced to backtrack a bit for an item that needs an HM. And at the same time, with a single, coherent list, people who are only on their first visit can easily just skip those items they can't get.

These things basically seem best and simplest/most consistent all around, to me. (And simple is best. Less room for arguments; or confusion.)

(Hope all that's not too wall-of-texty... =P ) Tiddlywinks (talk) 16:19, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Aero

hey! How are you? :) You must know that your page was chosen to be the official Aero one. I just happen to have worked on it too ( User:MannedTooth/Aero) and wondered if there is anything you would like to add to yours? I'm thinking of the Giovanni part, since Aero technically was owned by him before Red. Anyway, take a look at that :) MannedTooth (Talk) 15:12, 7 April 2016 (UTC)