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Since this is noting a record, and not a peculiar trait, I don't see how this notability requirement enters into it. Would you remove the similar record from the Hydreigon article if it was shared with two other species? [[User:Yvnr|Yvnr]] ([[User talk:Yvnr|talk]]) 07:54, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
Since this is noting a record, and not a peculiar trait, I don't see how this notability requirement enters into it. Would you remove the similar record from the Hydreigon article if it was shared with two other species? [[User:Yvnr|Yvnr]] ([[User talk:Yvnr|talk]]) 07:54, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
== Regarding Tyranitar ==
About Tyranitar that was so stupid of me :3. I don't know how to describe it but if you look above the scaled (a reference from Larvitar's page)blue rhombus you can see the armor fom the lower body is not connected to the armor on the upper body.[[User:Gelato Gelato|Gelato Gelato]] ([[User talk:Gelato Gelato|talk]]) 08:46, 30 March 2013 (UTC)Gelato Gelato

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Welcome to Bulbapedia, Crystal Talian!
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thank you

Thank you for the kind greetings. I came and joined this wiki comunity to help with the "Pokemon + Nobunagas Ambition" game. I am a huge fan of KOEI and their games, and while i dont know much about pokemon outside the cartoons, i thought i could help by proving information regarding the human characters in the upcoming crossover game

I hope i can be of service
Ixbran 07:35, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

I have a question

First of all thank you for the nice greeting, I apreciate it. Also I noticed that on your page it said your favorite Pokemon was Evee. I would like to add my favorite Pokemon (Chandelure) to my page, how can I do that? Carson 07:15, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome! Do you mean the little tag on my page? First you have to make some edits to the mainspace, so you can gain the ability to create and edit your userpage. Don't ask me how many, I don't know. Once you can do that, add {{Template:User Favorite|609|Chandelure}} to your page. For more information, look here. Crystal Talian 07:28, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Thank you

Yes, the tag is very nice, and thanks for letting me know! Carson 07:49, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

I can't find the mainspace

Sorry if I am bothering you, but I am new to Bulbapedia. Is there a link somwhere? Carson 08:02, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

You're not bothering me at all. "Mainspace" refers to most Bulbapedia pages that don't start with "talk:" or "user:". For example, the edit you made to Axew's article counts as a mainspace edit. Crystal Talian 08:08, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

it still will not let me edit my userpage

By the way I'm glad i'm not bothering you, I don't like to do that to people

Carson 08:22, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

You'll need to make several mainspace edits before you are able to edit your userpage. I don't know the exact number, but it is several. By the way, you don't need to create a new header every time you add to a talkpage. You can just click the "edit" button next to the header where the conversation started. You really only need to make a new header when starting a new conversation. - unsigned comment from Crystal Talian (talkcontribs)
Thanks, I will go make some edits now.

Also I was making a new header every time becuase I didn't know how to reply at that time Chandelure1166 08:39, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

No problem! And I figured it was something like that. I was just letting you know. =3 Crystal Talian 08:43, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Can you help me?

Hello Crystal! I don't know If you remember me cause I joined maybe four months ago or longer but I was one of the users you welcomed. Since bulbapedia is so big and I'm a sotr of new user, I'm not exactly sure what to edit (I actually joined just to help with the tyrouge page due to the fact where tyrouge was wasn't completely said). So I was sort of wondering if you possibly have a simple easy task I could do to help out the wiki? --Minor Notes 23:00, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Just one last question

Hello, Crystal! Thanks for the suggestion of what to do. I just have one last question: for the trainer classes would it be possible to put a appearance section? I mostly noticed appearance is basically only used for pokemon and not for the human characters but I looked at another stub for a trainer class and it listed a appearance for both characters but it was in the section where game information was usually located. Well thanks for your help, bye!


Hello Crystal Talian, please check your e-mail* as soon as possible, awaiting for your reply. Thank you. ♫♪ エイディニズ ♪♫ 10:47, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Signature move

Where is the problem? KyleRGiggs 09:01, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Wait until Force Fire replies to your question before reverting him. However, I believe the problem is that this is a move tutor move. It wasn't that only Blastoise could learn, but that the tutor refused to teach it to anyone else. Crystal Talian 09:02, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
I am not reverting him actually, please check what I revert. KyleRGiggs 09:13, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
Hitting "undo" is reverting. I did check before I said anything. However, the issue appears to have been resolved now. Crystal Talian 09:18, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Using templates

Instead of copying the code of the template Protect, simply write the template as such: {{Protect}}. ht14 21:36, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

I thought I did? I didn't copy the code, at least. I wasn't sure what the what the template code was, so I mimicked the way you call a welcome template. I guess the "subst" was unnecessary. Ah, well. Noted. Thank you. Crystal Talian 21:39, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
Subst is only used for Welcome template. :) All other templates do not use subst. ht14 21:40, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
Got it. I'll be sure to remember for next time. Thanks! Crystal Talian 21:43, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
Sorry to butt in but, subst is usually used for message templates like {{subst:Userspace warning}} and {{subst:Preview button}}, not just for {{subst:Welcome}}. I beleive that subst is what signs those automatic message templates for you. --Pokemaster97 23:12, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, I mentioned that. It's hidden, haha, but yeah, what Pokemaster97 said is true. ht14 23:32, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
Derp, I didn't notice the hidden part sorry XD --Pokemaster97 23:38, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Then Let's Bring it Up With Staff

To the uneducated reader who knows nothing about Pokémon and is trying to decide which game to buy as their first, such entries as the one I attempted to correct can be very misleading. Anyone looking at the Butterfree or Metapod articles can easily see at the top of the article that it evolves from Caterpie, but cannot catch it in Black; however, the text in cases like Metapod suggests that a player who wants a Butterfree HAS to play White, and cannot trade the Pokémon from Black, thus requiring a player who wants to catch Reshiram (that was my deciding factor, I wanted the white legendary) to purchase White instead. This is completely misleading to an uneducated reader, and it is wrong to assume that everyone will understand that you can still evolve it in Black. After all, clicking a Caterpie link from Metapod's page already shows you can only catch Caterpie in White.

This is a task I'm willing to undertake myself as well, I'm just trying to establish a correct precedent. The existing one is entirely flawed. CycloneGU (talk) 01:04, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

I understand your concern, and I agree that it is a good point. The next time I have the chance to talk with staff, I will bring up your point, and we will let you know when a decision is made on the subject. Crystal Talian 01:10, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
Fair enough. Give me a heads-up on my talk page when that occurs; I constantly refer back to things here more often than anywhere else, so I'll see it. Let the staff know I'm willing to take this on myself as well, and if I do make an odd mistake somewhere, they're welcome to clean up after me where necessary. Hopefully that won't happen very often. =D CycloneGU (talk) 01:14, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

thanks for the warm welcome

i wanted to thank you for welcoming me and i was wondering how to put those "this user ----" on my page and where to find them Maggiedroid (talk) 04:59, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

First, you're welcome. =3 And do you mean the usertags? Well, first you need to do some editing so you can start your own userpage. Don't ask me how many edits you need to do, it's a hidden number. Anyway, once you do that, you can look here for information on usertags. Have fun! Crystal Talian 06:06, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Name Translations

Hey Crystal Talian, I just saw your message and I just wanted to say, first, sorry about that, I'm not fluent in Japanese, and I was looking for something to edit, and I thought that I could do that by translating something from English to Japanese; second, that I didn't really know how the translations worked, which is why I translated the English names back into Japanese; and third, I don't own a Japanese copy of a Hoenn-based game (As I live in the US, and it's realtively hard to get one in and around where I live).The next time I edit a page on Bulbapedia, and any other site for that matter, I'll make sure I know what I'm doing before I start editing. I'll also make sure that the next I edit a page on the site, I'll make sure it will be not only tested personally, but also that it follows the conduct of Bulbapedia and that if it deals with another language that I'm not fluent in, I promise that I won't translate on this site until one of the following is true: A) I'm fluent in that language (I'm currently fluent in only English, but I'm working on becoming fluent in German) B) I use an offical site to translate (i.e. a govt. website) or C) If I'm thinking about editing, one of the above is true

I'll become fluent in any language, if needed. I am actually thinking about becoming fluent in Japanese, amongst a few other languages. One final thing, I wasn't really thinking about how the translating worked, especially with languages like English and Japanese, which have little to no connection. If you (Or another Bulbapedia staf member) have any problem with anything I edit, like this one, just feel free to edit that page back and tell me. Thanks for pointing that out, and telling me about how translating generally works. Thanks! Grayglove

A little help, please

I have been creating battlefield sections for the kingdoms of Pokémon Conquest and would like to create a battlefield page. It looks like I now have the right to create pages, so could you please tell me a bit about creating them? Sorry to bother you. The editing help doesn't help. LOL! Either way, I would really appreciate it if you helped me out. Eeveewithwings123 (talk) 21:50, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

You're not bothering me at all. As far as getting a page started, all you have to do is run a search for the title of the page you want to make, and click the link to create the page. As far as the content for that page, I suggest you look over the other Conquest pages and how they are written and set up, and then maybe go over the manual of style. Other than that, just go with your instincts. Good luck and have fun! Crystal Talian 03:07, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Umm... I've been too busy to do the page yet (and a bit scared, I know it's stupid to worry about it, I'm just not that good at codes and all), but what would you use for a suffix to show that the article is for the conquest games and not any others? Thanks in advance!--Eeveewithwings123 (talk) 16:01, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Since we don't have any other battlefield pages, a suffix isn't needed to distinguish it. But if you're wanting to make a different page that will need a distinction, the suffix would be (Conquest). I don't think it would be needed for any pages at the moment, though. Crystal Talian 00:28, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

A question

Hello Crystal! I have a question and I thought you would probably be able to answer it. Can any user, including the ones that are admins or higher, use obscenities on their user pages? I was just sort of wondering since I found this bureaucrat, User:Darkeiya, using a obscenity in a user box and that confused me since I thought Bulbapedia had rules against that.If you could answer my question I would greatly appreciate it. Minor Notes (talk) 03:51, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

There are rules against it in mainspace articles. However, so long as it is within reason and not specifically directed at a person (or group of people), its allowed on userpages and talkpages. So long as it is not excessive, it's nothing to worry about. Thank you for your concern, though. Crystal Talian 04:35, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Thankyou for answering my question. The obscenity is directed at a villian in the game so does that change it or is it just different if it is directed at a living person?Minor Notes (talk) 16:04, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Only a living person, as it would then be against the Code of Conduct. Crystal Talian 03:51, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for answering my question yet again. Now take for instance the God the Christians believe is real and say that some one uses a obscenity and directs it at that God, would that have to be taken down since Christians believe He is real or would it simply be ignored since not everyone believes He is real?Minor Notes (talk) 23:38, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

That would be offensive to a particular group of people, so that would not be allowed. To put it simply, swearing is okay in the userspace and talkpages so long as it is not offensive to a person or persons. So, if someone is swearing at at game, a game character, or nothing in particular, then that is fine. On the other hand, if someone is directing that obscenity at a person, people, entity, or concept that insults or offends someone, it would not be allowed. If you think that something you want to say might offend someone, then don't say it. Crystal Talian 04:44, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your help Crystal! I thought by leaving you a message you might get back to me the next month (since I have had dreadful experiences on talk pages for articles and I thought this would be the same) but I was very surprised that you got back to me in less then a day. Thank you so much for answering my questions but I'm afraid I've got another one (I believe this one will be my last). Now say for instance a user takes a word that is less then a obscenity but is in the same category and then put the word God in front of it and then uses that word to insult themselves. Would that be allowed because they were insulting themselves or would that be not allowed for they would be insulting both God and themselves? I was wondering about that after seeing a user do that exact thing.Minor Notes (talk) 23:45, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

I really can't run through every possible scenario. The main thing is to avoid offending people. If you think you're going to offend someone, just don't say it. If you're worried about something someone else said, staff will get to it if it is a problem (and if the user hasn't already been banned). Bulbapedia does not discriminate against any race, religion, or ethnic background. If someone is openly expressing discretions against these groups they will be blocked indefinitely whether they use swear words or not. In the case of the provided situation, it would not be allowed as it may offend some people. Crystal Talian 00:45, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your help but I think I would just annoy the staff...Minor Notes (talk) 02:37, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Moving Sections

Crystal i am new and i made a new section on a page and how do i move it to a new place(Icestar649 (talk) 22:22, 19 December 2012 (UTC))

Hello. First, please add new talkpage comments to the bottom of the page. I've moved this comment for you. To move the section you created, all you need to do is copy-paste it to the area of the page where you want to be (make sure you delete it from the original area so it isn't on the page twice). However, I would suggest simply putting the section in the correct area of the page to begin with. To bring up the whole page for editing, just click the "edit this page" tab at the top of page and add the new section where it needs to be. I went ahead and looked over the section you added, and removed it as it was not the right style for this website. Please work your grammar and do not use "you" when writing for articles here. I would suggest that you look over the manual of style, it'll help you out with some of the basics of editing here. Crystal Talian 22:59, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

Dear Crystal Tailan, thank you so much for the help and time you have given me. I hope you have a happy new year and a merry Christmas. Because your favourite pokemon is evee, I recoloured it and turned it into a Christmas evee by using Christmas colour (red and green). I hope you like it and have a great day. Chirstmas_Eevee.png Minor Notes (talk) 02:37, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

I do like it. Thank you so much for your thoughtful gift. <3 Crystal Talian 05:01, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Your welcome.--Minor Notes (talk) 14:12, 26 December 2012 (UTC)


Shuckle going to make Rare Candy from Berry Juice. However sadly, the function was removed. --Samueljoo (talk) 06:54, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Yes? May I please ask why you are telling me this? Crystal Talian 10:23, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Ask what?

Ask what? --Samueljoo (talk) 09:04, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Why did you tell me about Shuckle? Or is this message referring to the one I recently left you? Crystal Talian 09:06, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

I don't know who to ask I thought you might

Hello Crystal. My brother made a account (his user name is NOBODY) and he for some reason isn't getting a conformation email no matter how many times he clicks on the thing to get it. I'm not exactly sure who to ask about this and I thought you might know. If you can tell me who to ask that would be great. Have a nice day. --Minor Notes (talk) 20:11, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Check the spam folder to make sure that it hasn't got caught by the spam filter? Werdnae (talk) 05:19, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Help please

I cannot edit my user page and I would like to remove all my data. I do not want to make any further edits other than removing all the text on my user page. Please help. Bageese (talk) 09:12, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

If you are leaving the site and wish for your page to be deleted, staff will take care of that for you. The reason why you can't edit your page is because new users have to make a certain number of mainspace contributions before they are allowed to edit their userpages. I realize that you are not a new user, but you have not made any edits since this rule was put in place a long time ago. So, the restriction is having an effect on you as well. If you wish to stay, you simply need to make some contributions and you'll be able to edit your page again. Crystal Talian 22:41, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
Can you just delete my account for me then? That would be appreciated, I'm more of a reader, not a contributor. =) Bageese (talk) 01:01, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
We have deleted your page for you, but we can't actually remove the whole account. If you don't want to log into it, you don't have to do so. The only thing that will remain is your talkpage for archival reasons. Crystal Talian 01:13, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

"If there are six, it's not notable"

Technically, it's only five, since Deoxys differs via forme. Is five a small enough number out of 650 to be deemed notable? Sweeping statistics like this at a glance are of considerable use to people who play competitively. Jumpman16 (talk) 03:54, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

I'm afraid that five is still too many. We also don't typically include competitive based trivia. Crystal Talian 04:00, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Article about Misty's Gyarados

Hello, im bringing this up because way article about Gyarados was written brings confusion among fans making it seem like things are based on assumptions rather than actual proof itself. Its listed on main page as Misty pokemon, but in article about Gyarados way its worded make it seem like its gym pokemon. Which many fans find confusing judging by comments you can read online.

Since going by canon and what was showed in anime from moment Misty earned its trust Gyarados was showed to be used and trained only by her. One of proof to this was revealed in episode "Togepi Mirage" when Misty stated how she trained Gyarados teaching it flamethrower. Like its been already brought up in article Gyarados seem to establish special bond with Misty , bond we never saw existing between him and Daisy, Violet or LIly. Before MIsty returned to gym earning its respect it was also showed how he didn't listened to anyone being out of control, until Misty intervened choosing to be her partner and nothing afterwards indicate how anyone else beside Misty use him befriending it.

Which is one of basic ways trainers acquire new pokemon.Otherwise if we are going to count only captured pokemon as ones which belong to someone, than same logic could be applied to Dawn Togekiss or Brock Onix which they received as gifts from others. Or all befriended pokemon others acquired on travels. In comparison all Brock pokemon are currently at gym, but that doesn't mean they belong to gym and new gym leader Forest.

Gyarados may be gym pokemon before(even though in canon such thing has never been stated), but that doesn't necessarily mean it still belongs to gym with canon treating it more as Misty's than gym pokemon. There are plenty other gym pokemon like Dewgong, Shelder, Goldeen etc but we don't see Misty taking them with her outside the gym, nor she was ever showed to be using them.Let alone being listed as her pokemon. Only Gyarados is being taken with her whenever she leaves gym being treated in similar manner like Corsola, Staryu and other pokemon which belong to her are.It was also showed how she is the only one training it, learning flamethrower in process. Likewise on every site whether its SPPF, or some Japanese poke site Gyarados is listed as one of Misty pokemon with only bulbapedia causing confusion listing it at same time both as Misty and gym pokemon?

Therefore i believe judging by what canon showed so far it would be more accurate to classify Gyarados as Misty rather than gym pokemon since unlike its case with other pokemon we reliably know belong to Cerulean, Gyarados is another story bring showed to have special bond only with Misty listening, training and being taken with her whenever she leaves gym. For all aforementioned reasons wouldn't it be more authentic to say how Gyarados is pokemon Misty befriended, since its treated basically like every pokemon which belongs to Misty? --Pokemon fan 132 (talk) 08:46, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

I wanted to ask before reverting this image to an earlier version

Somehow, [[[1]]] seems like a hazard to epileptics. Or non epileptics. Or any one, really --Shadowater (talk) 07:14, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

The current version is fine. I doubt it'll cause any seizures, as the movement is slow and small. Thank you for your concern, though. Crystal Talian 07:59, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Move trivia

I don't think that "the only non-X-type Pokémon that can learn the move" trivia should be on the move pages, since you can see it easily just by looking at the move lists (which is why sprite trivia isn't allowed). For example, when you read the Poison Gas page, you'll notice immediately that Drowzee and Hypno are the only Psychic types without having to read the trivia section.--Den Zen 21:50, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

I considered that, but it really doesn't belong on Pokémon species pages either. Being the only one not of a type to learn it is potentially notable, but the major question is where to put it. It is easily visible on the move pages, but it's not really relevant on the species pages since it's more about the move than the Pokémon. I will look into the best place to put them tonight. Crystal Talian 22:09, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
I'm also dumbfounded as to why you reverted my edits. In my opinion, all those reversions and pseudo-reversions of yours should be reverted, as the trivia does not belong in the move articles (see my talk page), and if it is notable, then of course the species articles are the appropriate locations. Really can't follow the logic in the argument that the content is not relevant for the species articles. How is it not? I'd even say it's more about the Pokémon than the move. Do you think that the fact that Bagon and its evolutionary relatives are the only non-Fire-type Pokémon to learn Ember says more about Ember than the Pokémon? I don't. I'd appreciate it if you could just undo your brash actions, disregarding any face-saving that could be gained from arguing and making this "major question" more complicated than it has to be; there are two location options, one is inapproriate due to being beyond redundant, the other is not - species articles if notable, nowhere if not notable. That was the conclusion I reached when editing, reflected in my edit summaries, so if you want to oppose that, at least make up your mind before reverting. Also, it appears your reversions are made without regard to my grammar-fixes (compare your restored Flame Wheel (move) to what you removed from Rattata (Pokémon)), which is, you know, counterproductive. Yvnr (talk) 16:00, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

How to add pictures

I really want to add a picture, how? Gelato Gelato (talk) 01:40, 29 March 2013 (UTC)Gelato Gelato

Pictures need to be uploaded to the Bulbagarden Archives before the they can be added to Bulbapedia. Crystal Talian 05:48, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

I remembered in Answer.com

Somebody copied information from Regigas.Gelato Gelato (talk) 01:44, 29 March 2013 (UTC)Gelato Gelato

If it's only to Answer.com, then it's not something to worry about. Crystal Talian 05:48, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

About Pupitar?

In the Pokédex entries of Pupitar in FireRed and Silver it describes Pupitar as fast, but it is not really that fast for a Pokemon at Level 30. And I would aalso like to add "despite its Pokédex entries it can be damage by steel-type.Gelato Gelato (talk) 05:34, 30 March 2013 (UTC)Gelato Gelato

Pokedex entries do not necessarily relate to in-game mechanics. The games can only do so much. Crystal Talian 05:36, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
How about in the trivia section of Escavalier: "Although Escavalier's Pokédex entry states that it flies around at high speed, its base speed is among the lowest of all known Pokémon, at just 20, nor can this species have the Ability Levitate.".Gelato Gelato (talk) 08:42, 30 March 2013 (UTC)Gelato Gelato

"Out of three Pokemon, so not notable"

Since this is noting a record, and not a peculiar trait, I don't see how this notability requirement enters into it. Would you remove the similar record from the Hydreigon article if it was shared with two other species? Yvnr (talk) 07:54, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Regarding Tyranitar

About Tyranitar that was so stupid of me :3. I don't know how to describe it but if you look above the scaled (a reference from Larvitar's page)blue rhombus you can see the armor fom the lower body is not connected to the armor on the upper body.Gelato Gelato (talk) 08:46, 30 March 2013 (UTC)Gelato Gelato