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:::::::I do believe that a lot of trivia falls under the "So what?" category, so there's a very uncertain line between notable and unnotable trivia. That being said, a trivia policy ''is'' under the works, so that line should hopefully become more clear once it's finalized. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 17:19, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
:::::::I do believe that a lot of trivia falls under the "So what?" category, so there's a very uncertain line between notable and unnotable trivia. That being said, a trivia policy ''is'' under the works, so that line should hopefully become more clear once it's finalized. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 17:19, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
:::::::: I see it. Even more, all the Fighting/Fire Pokémon are as well. Poison must have slipped my mind, I will remove it again. [[User:Danny199|Danny199]] ([[User talk:Danny199|talk]]) 17:24, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
:::::::: I see it. Even more, all the Fighting/Fire Pokémon are as well. Poison must have slipped my mind, I will remove it again. [[User:Danny199|Danny199]] ([[User talk:Danny199|talk]]) 17:24, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
::::::::: How is the trivia I posted on the Fairy page not good trivia, cause if that one isn't, most of the Trivia isn't good trivia. Like the one that says this Pokémon is the only ..../.... type. Can also be categorized as "So What?", some people might not care. [[User:Danny199|Danny199]] ([[User talk:Danny199|talk]]) 07:46, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
::::::::::First of all, do not insert a talk page comment in between two other comments in the same section. This ruins the flow of conversation.
::::::::::Second, your trivia was way too specific (i.e.: had too many specific requirements) to be notable. We don't like overly specific trivia. For example, "This Pokémon is the only ..../.... type" is acceptable by {{bp|staff|our}} standards because its requirements aren't too specific. Even more, it's focusing on one Pokémon out of 721 (with known types, as of the time of this comment) and pointing out its uniqueness from all 720 other Pokémon. When you're focusing on one type out of 18, this makes its uniqueness factor go down quite a bit, so the requirements for the trivia about that type really shouldn't be all too specific. Your trivia required:
::::::::::#Be a type paired with the {{t|Grass}} type
::::::::::#Be a type paired with the {{t|Water}} type
::::::::::#Be a type not paired with the {{t|Fire}} type
::::::::::#Be the only type for which all three of the above is true
::::::::::This is just way too specific to be noted.
::::::::::Third, the Fairy ''just'' got introduced. It's not going to be paired up with every type in the generation it's introduced in. It doesn't matter if it's the only type to not be paired with all three starter types. Adding that trivia point would really be "reaching"/"trying too hard" for lack of better terms; it's deliberately searching and bloating up a factoid (i.e.: adding too many specific requirements) in order to make it seem "unique."
::::::::::Fourth, the "so what?" portion isn't really all that subjective, but instead more based on what we ({{bp|staff}} ''and'' members too, really) find appropriate for the purposes of this site, based on what I said above. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 12:38, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
:::::::::::Furthermore, although belated, your trivia point was not even true to begin with. Both {{t|Poison}} and {{t|Ice}} also have not been paired up with the {{t|Fire}} type but have already been paired up with the {{t|Grass}} and {{t|Water}} types. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 17:27, 6 April 2016 (UTC)


== Scans of Generations Ready ==
== Scans of Generations Ready ==
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::The description of Mahognay town in HGSS and a character in XY099 use the plural Ninja. Ninjas is an americanisation, commonly used but still incorrect. [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 16:05, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
::The description of Mahognay town in HGSS and a character in XY099 use the plural Ninja. Ninjas is an americanisation, commonly used but still incorrect. [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 16:05, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
:::Kagetomo told Ippei to "look after my Ninja". Many characters have reffered to the "art of the ninja" rather than 'the art of the ninjas' {{unsigned|05308}}
:::Kagetomo told Ippei to "look after my Ninja". Many characters have reffered to the "art of the ninja" rather than 'the art of the ninjas' {{unsigned|05308}}
::::I want to point out that "ninjas" is used in Mahogany's map description in-game, and "ninjas" has been used in character quotes in-game as well. On top of that, dictionaries disagree that it's incorrect English usage, and {{wp|ninja|Wikipedia}} also notes that it can be ninjas in English. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 16:29, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
:::::'''''Welcome to the Home of the Ninja!'''''{{sup/2|GSC}} or '''''Home of the Ninja'''''{{sup/4|HGSS}} (Japanese: '''ようこそ にんじゃの さとへ''' ''Welcome to the home of the ninja.''), not home of the ninjas.
I'd also like to point out that wikipeida can make a similur mistsake to Bulbapedia as they are simalu websites in nature. As I said, ninjas is an americanisation and is often used and not believed to be incorrect. [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 16:39, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
:"A town with a suspicious air to it. It's a hiding place for ninjas." Right there on the page, just below the town description you're quoting. And Wikipedia pulled its citation of "ninjas" from two dictionaries, one American and one British. Are you going to say those dictionaries are wrong? Because if it's in a reputable dictionary, it's acceptable English and cannot be wrong by English standards (until a time it's changed) because it's ''recognized as correct''. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 16:55, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
::"Ninjas" has been used in-game (non-exhaustive list):
::*''"Master KOGA comes from a long line of ninjas."'', Pokémon Red, Blue, FireRed, and LeafGreen
::*''"It's amazing how ninja can terrify even now!"'', Pokémon Red and Blue
::*''"Listen, don't you think my POKéMON are kind of like ninjas?"'', Pokémon XD
::*''"We ninjas appear where you least expect us!"'', Pokémon Diamond and Pearl
::*''"There are several kinds of ninjas. Are you an Iga or a Kouga ninja?"'', Pokémon Diamond and Pearl
::*''"I'm Janine! The essence of ninjas' moves obtained by training! Feel the horror from the Poison-type Pokémon who've mastered it."'', Pokémon Black 2 and White 2
::"Ninja" is also used as a plural in-game (non-exhaustive list):
::*''"Ninja have a long history of using animals!"'', Pokémon Red and Blue
::*''"We ninja conceal ourselves under our camouflage cloaks. I bet you didn't know where I was!"'', Pokémon Emerald
::*''"We ninja conceal ourselves under our invisibility cloaks. I bet you didn’t know where I was!"'', Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire
::*''"We ninja make the papier-mâché for our invisibility cloaks by hand!"'', Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire
::"Ninja" is also used as a plural in ''[[XY098|The Legend of the Ninja Hero!]]'' around 2:14.
::Many dictionaries [http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/240489 list] [http://www.dictionary.com/browse/ninja both] [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ninja as] correct. The argument really shouldn't be about which is correct (because both are correct). --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 17:03, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
== Why stick to the present? ==
You said to stick to the present tense here, http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Vital_Spirit_(Ability)&diff=2430808&oldid=2430801
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However the Dream World shut down, so... you see where I'm going with this? [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 03:48, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
:Normally, descriptions for game mechanics, such as moves and Abilities, should be written in the present tense. But since you brought up the point that the Dream World is no longer accessible, so that specific characteristic of Vital Spirit can no longer be performed...I think this would be a case in which it is okay to use the past tense. You can change it back, but please do mention (in the article, right after that sentence) that this specific effect can no longer occur because the Dream World shut down, since that fact is quite relevant. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 04:30, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
Done, thanks. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 04:42, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
== Helping ==
Thank you for the tip, I am very thankfull for that! {{unsigned|Kenzey}}
:No problem. Also, for future reference, please sign your talk page comments with four tildes <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code>. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 16:20, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
I have to learn many to be so good as you kenzey  16:27, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
== Making new pages  ==
Hello Carmen,
I think we should add more movie character pages  specifically pokemon such as Latios and Latias from M18.--[[User:AshKetchumonfirex90|AshKetchumonfirex90]] ([[User talk:AshKetchumonfirex90|talk]]) 02:31, 24 April 2016 (UTC)[[User:AshKetchumonfirex90|AshKetchumonfirex90]].
:I'm not ''that'' up to date with the Pokémon movies, so I'm not the one to ask about specific Pokémon in recent movies. However, in general, movie Pokémon do not get their own pages unless they were the main characters in that movie or if their role was significant in the plot, as per our {{DL|Bulbapedia:Manual of style/Anime|notability requirements}}, point 6. If you believe that there ''is'' a Pokémon that does satisfy those requirements, you can create a draft of the Pokémon's page in your userspace (after becoming {{bp|Autoconfirmed users|autoconfirmed}}) at <code>User:AshKetchumonfirex90/<pagename></code> and then contact our Head of Anime, {{u|Pokemaster97}}, listing reasons why you think that Pokémon deserves its own page. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 02:44, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
== The unaired episodes ==
I feel that since we know the basic important events from those episodes based on the trailer, they should be on the timeline so that people can know how the whole meteorite plot wrapped up.  I added the note that they were not aired in the dub and later retconned out of canon, so does that help? {{unsigned|Lawrence}}
:It's not our job to assume how events carry out. If the episodes never aired, then as far as we know (for 100% certainty), there is just a gaping hole in the plot, which won't be filled up until the episodes air (if they ever ''do'' air, that is). We can't do anything about that. We're not going to say that certain events happened if they were never shown to happen. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 16:50, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
:: But we're not assuming anything, all the events I listed are things we clearly SEE happen in the trailer and read in official blurbs released about the episodes prior to being pulled. There have been cases of events being posted before episodes even air based on previews and common logic, so what's the difference here? {{unsigned|Lawrence}}
:::Still, the episodes have not aired. The case with events being posted before episodes even air is that they are all commented out with <code><nowiki><!--</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>--></nowiki></code>. They then get unhidden ''after'' the episode actually airs. If [[BW023 (unaired)]] and [[BW024 (unaired)]] ever get aired, the events can get unhidden ''after'' the episodes air. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 17:01, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

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I have a problem

Hello Carmen,

There's a user here on Bulbapedia that's breaking the code of conduct you gave to me on my discussion page. The user is Kenji-Girl, although it's in Japanese lettering. I would appreciate it if you could help out or forward this message to someone on the administration who can. --ShalashaskaADV 02:03, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

I really can't do anything about that; sorry. Kenji-girl is a senior admin, and I'm sure she knows what she's doing. She wasn't breaking the code of conduct; she was simply explaining what you've done wrong and hopes you won't make a mistake like that again. Please understand. --Carmen (Talk) 02:16, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Trainer classes

The reason Gen I trainers are not included is because, except in a few cases, the trainers are the same as they are in FRLG. Same level, same team. Unless there are differences (or the trainer didn't get carried over into FRLG), they didn't get noted. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 04:05, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Okay, thanks! --Carmen (Talk | Contributions) 13:57, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

No

I know you apologized, but please, next time, CHECK. --Han Ji-Wan 04:05, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry for that. I'll make sure I check from now on. --Carmen (Talk | Contributions) 04:15, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Spoiler links

I had to revert most (not all) of your edit to BW002 because it went against the spoiler links policy in episode articles. I elaborated on that policy in my proposed synopsis guidelines, where it cited a past argument that set the standard. Just take note of it for next time. Thanks! --rockersk08 04:08, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Just butting in where I'm probably not wanted (as per usual, I guess), but I don't think this is actually as big a deal as one may think. The spoiling will happen whether the link goes to the redirect or not, because if someone clicks on the link then they get a major spoiler. At best, I think this sort of thing should be a "link to whatever is appropriate given the context", but don't go out of your way to change or revert someone - it's not really a huge concern.
Personally speaking, I think Bulbapedia should abolish spoiler warnings anyway. Seriously, this is a wiki full of information. Chances are you've come here because you want to learn something you don't already know. Every element from every canon (games, anime, manga, etc.) could be perceived as a spoiler... Maybe I'm a bit too anti-spoiler, but... —darklordtrom 09:05, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
I didn't know about that policy before, but I'll make sure that I will follow it. --Carmen (Talk | Contributions) 13:29, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
I appreciate that, but Trom also brought up a good point about it. I had been following it based on that past argument, but perhaps it could be reassessed? I'll start a conversation on the policy talk page. Feel free to chime in! --rockersk08 04:38, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Changes

Please, why you reverted the changes I made in the images of the pages Emolga Iris and himself? Both are totally disproportionate to their pages and end up spoiling the look of them.-Hikaru Wazana 22:20, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Please read this. --Carmen (Talk | Contributions) 23:50, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Cards and redirects

The cards use the links the way they do for ease of typing out origins. On a further note: The TCG links to redirects more often than other sections, because many times, linking to the actual page makes things incorrect and harder than linking the redirect. If you come across more card pages using Template:Game, just skip them, please. MaverickNate 05:58, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Ah, sorry about that. I'll leave the card pages alone. --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 13:11, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
No worries. Thank you MaverickNate 14:49, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi

If you have a minute, could you please check your email? Thanks. Jellotalk 02:18, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Official congratulations

Welcome to the team! Jellotalk 20:29, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 20:31, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Congradulations Carmenstar! You deserve it you've been making lots of good edits! Good luck as a staff member :) --Pokemaster97 20:32, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Congrats and welcome aboard. Werdnae (talk) 20:35, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
Congratulations, it's nice to see a new fellow user. Masatoshitalk 20:37, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
Whoo! Congrats, you've certainly earned it. :D --P S Yライダー 20:39, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
Congrats. We'll be sure to take good care of you. Yes....good care...Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 20:43, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
Belated congratulations Carmen, welcome to the team. 8) ♫♪エイディニズ♪♫ 15:31, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Underscores in template parameter names

You can't replace them with spaces or they break. --SnorlaxMonster 14:11, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

*Facepalm* I should really think before I act. Sorry. --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 14:13, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Inconsistency!

Not that big of a deal actually, but on the top of your userpage it says "she" joined bulbapedia on 10/22/10. Then it switches perspective (not that it matters, but my writing teacher would kill you for that) and at the bottom, it says you joined on 10/23/10. Not that it's my bussiness, but I just couln't help noticing it (OCD). Obviously there is a good reason for it and I'm just too much of a noob to see it, but just had to point that out. Blastoiseboy19(Talk) was here at 00:46, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Inconsistency!

Not that big of a deal actually, but on the top of your userpage it says "she" joined bulbapedia on 10/22/10. Then it switches perspective (not that it matters, but my writing teacher would kill you for that) and at the bottom, it says you joined on 10/23/10. Not that it's my bussiness, but I just couln't help noticing it (OCD). Obviously there is a good reason for it and I'm just too much of a noob to see it, but just had to point that out. Blastoiseboy19(Talk) was here at 00:47, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

OOPS sorry I just double-posted, my computer really sucks. Blastoiseboy19(Talk) was here at 00:48, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
Also, (stupid me) how do you put the [show] buttons on your usertags? mine just expand my page and it really bugs me. Blastoiseboy19(Talk) was here at 00:51, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Deletion

Do not, under any circumstance add information to my talk page that pertains to lecturing me. That is extremly offensive on my part. Please do not do that again PokePrincess 01:18, 20 June 2011 (UTC)--PokePrincess 01:18, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Well, sometimes lecturing is the only way to teach some people how to do stuff. :--SuperAipom7 (Questions?) 01:22, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Who are you? What do you have anything to do with this...Let me answer for you, NOTHING!!!!. PokePrincess 01:26, 20 June 2011 (UTC)--PokePrincess 01:26, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I was just trying to help. :--SuperAipom7 (Questions?) 01:28, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Oh I am sorry too its just I am so frustrtaed. I am struggling with images. I know this sounds weird but I don't know how to. PokePrincess 01:32, 20 June 2011 (UTC)--PokePrincess 01:32, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

What must be done must be done. If you go against the talk page policy, or rather, any policy, you'll get a warning. --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 01:33, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Before you do that, why do we have to keep the welcoming and you are going to absolutley hate me from saying this but can you help with images. PokePrincess 01:35, 20 June 2011 (UTC)--PokePrincess 01:35, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

We have to keep the welcoming becuase it has some helpful advice you should follow. :--SuperAipom7 (Questions?) 01:36, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
Exactly what kind of help do you need with images? Uploading, inserting them into pages...what? --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 01:40, 20 June

You know how the sprites for pokemon are in those boxes? how do you make thosePokePrincess 05:14, 20 June 2011 (UTC)--PokePrincess 05:14, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

I'll assume you mean something like this. That's done through the use of several templates. I suggest you familiarize yourself with the manual of style and wikicode before getting into templates. --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 20:59, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Fail attempt

Hey, since you are an admin, is there anyway you can delete my failed attempt at a usertag? It's near the top of the Recent Changes. Thanks! :--SuperAipom7 (Questions?) 00:34, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm only a Junior Admin, which means I can't delete pages. I can bring it up with a higher staff member. --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 00:38, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. :--SuperAipom7 (Questions?) 00:44, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

I have another question...

Do you know how I can add this to the other userboxes? Or am I allowed to? :--SuperAipom7 (Questions?) 02:24, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Read this. It should answer your questions. --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 02:28, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. Do you think my usertag is any good? :--SuperAipom7 (Questions?) 02:30, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
I don't really have an opinion...sorry. --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 02:34, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
That's fine. Thanks for your help! :--SuperAipom7 (Questions?) 02:35, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Policy?

What is the policy on horizontal lines? You have to agree that on Sawsbuck's page, it would really help to break up that section. LimeGreenCharizard 15:42, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Official poilcy is that they should be avoided if at all possible. Breaking up a page is generally a bad thing, not a good thing; it disrupts the flow. Sections should be used instead. Sawsbuck's page already has sections, it does not need further division. Werdnae (talk) 01:10, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Minor Edits

May I ask why all of your contribs are marked as minor edits? They couldn't have all been minor. LimeGreenCharizard 19:16, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Some of us have all our edits marked as minor by default, because most of our edits are. It's easy to forget to unckeck the box when making a large edit. Werdnae (talk) 01:10, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Type Templates?

Hello, I've noticed that there are two templates for Pokémon types. One is {{type|Type}} and {{t|Type}}. Is there a preferred template or are they enterchangable? --Pokemaster97 02:52, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

See here, bullet five. {{T}} would be used when describing a type as a noun and {{Type}} would be used when describing a type as an adjective. For example, use {{T}} when saying "Pikachu is weak to the Ground type", and use {{Type}} when saying "Pikachu is an Electric-type Pokémon." --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 03:13, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
Ahh, I understand now. Thank you! --Pokemaster97 03:17, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Deleting an account

Hi there, I was wondering if you could delete/cancel my account? It occurs to me that, although I enjoy reading through this wiki, I don't have the time or the resources right now to contribute. Thanks :) Reedreda Reedreda 17:48, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Contributing isn't necessary; you can just not contribute. --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 01:14, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

I would rather just not have an account until I actually have a reason for using it, if that's all right. -- unsigned comment from Reedreda (talkcontribs)

Due to the way the wiki is built, we are unable to remove accounts. Feel free to ignore your account though. It isn't doing any harm by leaving it idle. —darklordtrom 04:06, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

Carmenstar97 I need your help! I want to make my own profile page but it wont let me. It's says I need an admins permission. Can I have your permission? Sincerly - Adrian - unsigned comment from Adrian from Gun Slingerz Inc. (talkcontribs)

Doddman

when will this page be unproteted ? This Pokémon is fully evolved and shoudend't be portected anymore. - unsigned comment from Doddman (talkcontribs)

Move/Addition requests

As the server move has broken the php mail() function, I'll post this here instead:

Hiya, I noticed the archives. wiki is locked and I needed a file moved. The File:DW_unidentified_candy_house.png needs to be changed to File:DW_Gingerbread_House.png as it was released today and I updated the Décor page accordingly.

Speaking of the Décor page, I would like permission to start working on a new Dream World Item template and 2 new pages to separate out the Plain and Dolls catalogue from the Décor page as it's now just a monolithic page.

Feel free to get in contact with me about any of this. I seem to be picking up the Dreamworld section and attempting to keep it up-to-date and cleaning it up where possible.

♪Pyrii♫ talkcontrib 01:23, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

I added my suggestions for discussion on the Décor talk page. But the file move is still needed. ♪Pyrii♫ talkcontrib 01:50, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

The Lylat Wiki returns.

Hello, Carmenstar97! I'm RingtailedFox, assistant administrator at the Lylat Wiki. I just wanted to let you know that we've come back online after a lengthy hiatus, and our URL has changed to http://www.starfoxwiki.info . I'm sending the word out to all the NIWA members/affiliates, as the old URL no longer points to the website. :) RingtailedFox (talk) 03:50, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

User: page

Just wondering if you'd know anything behind this, but a few weeks ago I was notified that my user: page was created, but when I went onto a PC a few hours to actually prepare it all, I found that it was all gone, include the message another person left me (I think it was someone starting with "Z"). I just wanted to find out if there was any exact reason why I was told that the page was created, then only a few hours later all evidence of it was erased?

Sorry if I sound rude or anything, I'm not too used to human contact :S - unsigned comment from Flamerheart (talkcontribs)

When can you create a page?

I would like to know when a user can create a new page. I really want to make my user page.
Supermarti15 (talk) 19:34, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

You'll have to wait until you're autoconfirmed. --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 23:10, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Archives protection removal?

Could you do anything to remove the protection of Bulbagarden Archives? Since X and Y are out now, I guess there is no real reason for keeping it protected, just like Bulbapedia. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 07:15, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Now that you're active...

Could you please take a look at this link template, and possibly mainspace it? Thanks. オリナル TheOriginalOne 00:07, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

That template already exists: Template:Kal. --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 00:09, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
Sorry for the trouble: I assumed it because it's not listed here. Please add it, and thank you for your time. オリナル TheOriginalOne 13:52, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Reporting a user breaking the Code of Conduct

While I do not disagree with Mask no oni's accusation that I am a stickler and a pedant in this edit summary, and in fact am proud of those qualities because they make for better copy editing, I do believe he is also calling me an "elitist shithole" unless I have misread his post, so I'd like to report him for that. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 20:49, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Merge files

I think these files/pages should be merged. Since I can't do that as a regular user, I'll post it here.

Skier II OD.png with Buena II OD.png

File:Pokemon_Fan_Club_Chairman_Kanto_II_OD.png with File:Name_rater_Johto_II_OD.png and File:Radio_Director_II_OD.png

File:Youngster_II_OD.png with Schoolboy II OD.png and File:Santos_II_OD.png and Arthur II OD.png

File:Johto_Move_Deleter_II_OD.png with PokéManiac II OD.png and Wesley II OD.png

Frieda II OD.png with Copycat II OD.png

Note: there are two grey pixels that shouldn't be there on the Weasley and Frieda's sprite (not their duplicate uploads though), that you'll notice if you enlarge the image.

A good example of many characters with the same sprite merged to one file is Rocket Grunt M II OD Rocket Grunt M II OD.png.TorNyan (talk) 17:25, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

I have noticed a mistake, but am not sure who to tell.

I have noticed a mistake on some information regarding a specific Pokemon, but I am not sure who to tell. I was hoping you could help me, as the Administrators I may have asked are inactive. --Guakstick (talk) 13:22, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

Diploma

Hii, in the page [1] (Diploma) theres 2 pictures that where taked by a camera, i have these 2 on a normal DS size (256x192) taked normally as well. i can send you these two for the page. but tell me how to do that. - unsigned comment from Araraura (talkcontribs)

Hell their please give me chance

i really want to join please please please pretty please i will do anything to join also trivia for James that he caught three pokemon by food thats good trivia --DareDevil (talk) 01:45, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

New Project

I have an idea for a new project concerning the Pokémon world: Project Record (name can change). Basically, it's a project in which we would categorize every Pokémon-related world records. To give an idea, here's some of the records it could feature:

  • The biggest <langage> TCG collection
  • The most hours played at <game>
  • The fastest time to level up a <pokemon> from level <x> to <y>
  • The biggest official Pokémon plush/shirt collection
  • etc.

Ideas and records are endless, anything would be considered record-able if it is:

  • Proven
  • Breakable
  • Quantifiable (countable, mesurable)

Need more info? Let me know! :) MannedTooth (talk) 20:29, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

Honestly, the idea for this project is both impossible to gauge and not notable enough. Things like records would fit more under trivia, and even then, it's impossible to figure out what exactly those records are, since the Pokémon community is so large. I would say no to this idea, but thank you anyways for your efforts. --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 20:54, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
Well, since the community is so large and because we can't go to people's house to validate it, what about we limit the range of this project to the games? Like, think about it, every number (exaggeration) can become a record! :O As long as they provide a video footage to prove it, it can become something great which I consider myself to be able to handle. If your answer is still a no, I will stop trying. I see so much potential, and to be honest, I find this a lot more notable than the project ship (my opinion only). MannedTooth (talk) 21:02, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
Bulbapedia is not a record-hosting site, but rather an encyclopedia about Pokémon. This project, while subjectively may be notable, just doesn't fit the aims of Bulbapedia. My answer is still a no. --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 21:13, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

Invalid Information

I found an invalid information about Mr. Briney for generation 6, I am not sure how to reformulate the sentence though.

It's written "Mr. Briney is first seen near the Rusturf Tunnel, asking the player to recover his Wingull, Peeko, from a Team Magma GruntROR/Team Aqua GruntSEAS."

Maybe this is true for RSE, but for ORAS it isn't. Mr.Briney is first seen in front of his house (cottage). MannedTooth (talk) 21:29, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

You could say:
In Pokémon Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald, Mr. Briney is first seen near Rusturf Tunnel, while in Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, he is first seen in front of his cottage on Route 104.
Outside of Rusturf Tunnel, he will ask the player to recover his Wingull, Peeko, from a Team Magma GruntROR/Team Aqua GruntSEAS.
--Carmen (Talk | contribs) 21:42, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

Addition to templates

In the templates of the Trainers you can meet in the game on certain routes/locations. It includes the name of the trainer, the money you get by defeating him/her, and the Pokémon he uses (including their level and gender). I think we should add to each Pokémon the moves they use. Basically, the same as for Brendan by example.

What it looks like: Petalburg Woods

What it should look like: Brendan

And again, I'm not talking about changing the whole template, it is awesome as it is for now, a list, but as I said, Pokémon should include their moves too, for the reader to know exactly what he will be facing. MannedTooth (talk) 22:07, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

We don't do that for regular Trainers because: (1) they're just not notable enough, (2) if we did that for all Trainers, location pages would get unnecessarily large and cramped, and (3) I think most people would be able to defeat a regular Trainer's Pokémon before finding out all of their moves. The information could potentially be helpful, but most people wouldn't need it or search it up. And anyways, isn't part of the fun of playing a game the aspect of not knowing every little detail that will happen? --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 22:19, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
Well, I do have a couple of things to argue with you on this.
  • Notability implies since they do have a section just for them, it would just be an additional information about them since, everything's here, except for that. I am not asking to create a whole page for them. Just add something to their section which they already have.
  • They wouldn't get so large and cramped, all we have to do is hide their abilities with an expendable class just like for the Brendan page I just sent you. It's not annoying for the eye, and if you want that particular information, all you have to do is click on a little word. Users who don't want to see it/be spoiled, won't click on it.
  • For trainers like them, okay, I agree, everyone's able to defeat them without preparation. But more advanced Trainers may need some preparation to do so, for some people. So if we do it for advanced trainers, why don't we do it for every trainers? Seems logic to me.
  • Your argument with the "it's more fun to not know it" is pretty (with all respect due) ironic to me. This website is essentially made so that anyone can dig up the information they look for. People who, as you said, play for fun and like to find out the abilities themselves, just won't use the website.
MannedTooth (talk) 22:28, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
Your request may sound simple, but the amount of effort and research that would have to be put into it is quite large. Let's look at the Ace Trainer Trainer class alone. There's about 400 Ace Trainers spanning all core series games so far. Let's say that on average they have 2 Pokémon each, 3 moves per Pokémon. 800 Pokémon. 2400 moves. And that's just for Ace Trainers. There's over 200 Trainer classes. There could be about 500,000 moves to research.
My point is, what you're suggesting is an enormous change, not just a request to add a little "additional information." And for what purpose? Just how necessary would this change be?
If you're still determined to have this change implemented, I'd suggest you go talk to the Head of Games or an Editorial Board member, as changes of this size are really not up to me. --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 23:15, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
I know this could be huge, but there must be a way to replace every empty spot by "unknown" "to be added" or "if you know, please add it" isn't it? As time goes, cells are gonna be filled. Who would be the best person to contact for this to be discussed with? I would like to suggest it at least. Thank you for your time. Very appreciated! ^^ MannedTooth (talk) 23:59, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
Try talking to Kogoro. --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 00:20, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Primal Kyogre

I must correct you on something.

Primal Kyogre itself is still subject to Fire-type attacks. Its ability renders them obsolete. However, if a slower Primal Groudon or Mega Rayquaza comes out, or they enter the field after Primal Kyogre regardless of speed, Primordial Sea vanishes and Primal Kyogre is able to be hit by Fire-type attacks at the usual rate for Water types. I am thus going to side with the user on Primal Kyogre and Fire-type attacks (same with Water types on Primal Groudon once its ability vanishes), and the table, I think, needs to be redone with the ability in mind as a note. If upper staff made the decision, however, it might be more appropriate to bring it up in discussion. CycloneGU (talk) 04:04, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

You're right, but allow me to defend myself a little. The main reason I reverted that edit was because in cases in which a Pokémon's only Ability is one that affects type effectiveness, such as Levitate, we default the type effectiveness chart to support the conditions of that Ability and leave a note at the bottom of the chart indicating exceptions. Like you said, the table does need to be updated to include a note for Primordial Sea, Desolate Land, and Delta Stream, but at the time I reverted that edit I didn't have the power to edit the template. I thank you for bringing this up, and I hope it's clear now. --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 04:20, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
Completely understood. I've gone ahead and removed the Primal Kyogre effectiveness table and notified Force Fire of the issue so that it can be properly addressed. Until it is, there's no point having the different tables. I have urged that notes are needed, myself, since it's clearly causing confusion. I also see no way to add notes like at Hoopa's page, which suggests they may have to do it anyway. If it were up to me (obviously it isn't, just saying LOL), I'd rather the table be factually correct ignoring the ability, and the ability note explaining things, but maybe I'm late to the party on this discussion as well. CycloneGU (talk) 04:27, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

New template?

I've come with the idea of a new template. Basically, it's a table with all the bonus stats a Pokémon gains per level.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:MannedTooth/Stats_Per_Level_Gen_3

Let me know what you think, and should I continue working on it so that when it's full we can implement them? Thanks ! ^~^ MannedTooth (talk) 04:23, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

I changed the template, since this was was not a good idea, so I've come with something else:
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:MannedTooth/Items_In_Manga
Let me know which one is the best? MannedTooth (talk) 21:33, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
Personally, I think the first table looks easier on the eyes, but the second table is more efficient. You could try making the second table less green. Also, I'm not too familiar with the manga section of the site, so you might want to go to Zesty Cactus to ask whether such a table is needed. --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 21:43, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

Snover

You can tell me why it isn't notworthy that Snover and Abomasnow are the only two non-fairy types who are weak to both Steel and Poison, because that is what the Trivia sector is about in my opinion. Danny199 (talk) 07:54, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Unique type combinations are notable, while unique type combinations of weaknesses are not. If a Pokémon or an evolutionary family of Pokémon has a unique type combination, any unique type combinations of weaknesses that they may have are already directly implied by the Pokémon's type combination. --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 17:55, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
It is just the only evolutionary line that has this, out of all types, their are no types with multiple weaknesses that have this as well. Danny199 (talk) 19:28, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
I don't think you follow what I'm saying. If an evolutionary line has a unique type combination, then naturally it should follow that the types these Pokémon are weak to are unique as well. Stating that the Pokémon have a unique type combination is sufficient; there is no need to further detail the type effectiveness of that type combination. Snover and Abomasnow are the only non-Fairy types weak to both Steel and Poison? That's already implied through the fact that Snover and Abomasnow are the only Grass/Ice Pokémon. --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 21:48, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
I got that part. What I tried to ask you if it isn't nameworthy to tell that out of all the Pokémon evolutionary lines, only Snover and Abomasnow are weak to all the weaknesses of one type, in this case Fairy, neglecting the fact that Normal and Electric only have one weakness. Danny199 (talk) 16:17, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
In that case, then your point just isn't true. Lileep and Cradily are weak to all the weaknesses of the Dark type: Fighting and Bug. --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 17:01, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
They aren't weak to Fairy, which is also a weakness of Dark, since gen VI that is. Danny199 (talk) 17:05, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
Okay, I just realized I forgot about the Generation VI changes to the type chart. Forgive me for that. You may re-add your trivia point, but please make sure it's worded clearly so that there is no confusion. --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 17:09, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
If I may, if you're looking for a counter to "Snover/Abomasnow are unique in this", Terrakion is weak to Poison's weaknesses.
That said, I would say that this sort of thing is unnotable anyway just because it falls under that nebulous umbrella of "So what?" To try to be more specific, I would say it's trivia for the sake of trivia, which isn't worth our while. Tiddlywinks (talk) 17:11, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
...And yet another thing I completely forgot about. Alright, disregard what I said about re-adding the trivia.
I do believe that a lot of trivia falls under the "So what?" category, so there's a very uncertain line between notable and unnotable trivia. That being said, a trivia policy is under the works, so that line should hopefully become more clear once it's finalized. --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 17:19, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
I see it. Even more, all the Fighting/Fire Pokémon are as well. Poison must have slipped my mind, I will remove it again. Danny199 (talk) 17:24, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
How is the trivia I posted on the Fairy page not good trivia, cause if that one isn't, most of the Trivia isn't good trivia. Like the one that says this Pokémon is the only ..../.... type. Can also be categorized as "So What?", some people might not care. Danny199 (talk) 07:46, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
First of all, do not insert a talk page comment in between two other comments in the same section. This ruins the flow of conversation.
Second, your trivia was way too specific (i.e.: had too many specific requirements) to be notable. We don't like overly specific trivia. For example, "This Pokémon is the only ..../.... type" is acceptable by our standards because its requirements aren't too specific. Even more, it's focusing on one Pokémon out of 721 (with known types, as of the time of this comment) and pointing out its uniqueness from all 720 other Pokémon. When you're focusing on one type out of 18, this makes its uniqueness factor go down quite a bit, so the requirements for the trivia about that type really shouldn't be all too specific. Your trivia required:
  1. Be a type paired with the Grass type
  2. Be a type paired with the Water type
  3. Be a type not paired with the Fire type
  4. Be the only type for which all three of the above is true
This is just way too specific to be noted.
Third, the Fairy just got introduced. It's not going to be paired up with every type in the generation it's introduced in. It doesn't matter if it's the only type to not be paired with all three starter types. Adding that trivia point would really be "reaching"/"trying too hard" for lack of better terms; it's deliberately searching and bloating up a factoid (i.e.: adding too many specific requirements) in order to make it seem "unique."
Fourth, the "so what?" portion isn't really all that subjective, but instead more based on what we (staff and members too, really) find appropriate for the purposes of this site, based on what I said above. --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 12:38, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
Furthermore, although belated, your trivia point was not even true to begin with. Both Poison and Ice also have not been paired up with the Fire type but have already been paired up with the Grass and Water types. --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 17:27, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Scans of Generations Ready

Need to be a confirmed user on Bulbagarden Archives in order to upload the new images. Thanks, SirFinkleBottom 04:53, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

You can upload your images to an image-hosting site and link them so I can upload them for you. --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 04:56, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
The source of these cards are from RockCarolina an associate of The Charizard Authority. RockCarolina only allows me to view the Photo Album. SirFinkleBottom 04:59, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
I see that you've asked Maverick Nate the same thing. I'll ask you to hold off on doing anything until you receive his answer, as he is the head of Project TCG. Until then, just wait for his reply. --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 05:20, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
Alright, thanks for the quick responses Carmen. SirFinkleBottom 05:27, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
Sorry one more thing. How to I become a confirmed user or autoconfirmed user when the only thing to do there is upload?SirFinkleBottom 05:30, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
You're also about to edit the summaries of files (provided they need fixing). --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 05:39, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
I mean able, not about, but you get the point. --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 05:40, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Why did you deleted it shows personality

Muk seemed joy to massage his shoulders. --SilverioBOMB (talk) 04:21, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

We don't need every little detail in the personality sections. Muk's personality was already clear from the content that was already in the section. --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 04:24, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
It was preety good as other of Ash pokemon didnt show it.--SilverioBOMB (talk) 04:26, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
That doesn't matter; it's incredibly minor and unnecessary. --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 04:29, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
Ok no prombelm i was wondering are you on fourms can you meet me their i like to ask you somehting on it please--SilverioBOMB (talk) 04:31, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
Better may i email you instead please--SilverioBOMB (talk) 04:32, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
Go ahead. --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 04:33, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
ok i did it please give me answer when you have chance--SilverioBOMB (talk) 04:39, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Please - unsigned comment from SilverioFlame (talkcontribs)

I have not received any email from you. --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 04:53, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

are you sure --SilverioBOMB (talk) 05:15, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Yes, I am sure. Please make sure you're using the following link: here. --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 05:17, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

i send it again --SilverioBOMB (talk) 05:31, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

if not work please give me your email adderesed please--SilverioBOMB (talk) 05:32, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
did it work--SilverioBOMB (talk) 05:52, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
No, it did not. Just email me at [email protected] --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 05:55, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

I send it --SilverioBOMB (talk) 06:24, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Ash's Torterra

And why in the word is the fact that both Torterra, as Turtwig, and Bulbasaur both are the protectors of a sort of village filled with Pokémon. Both protect a Pokémon from Ash and his friends, Either it being an Oddish protecting for Misty, or Ash's Pikachu, thinking it being a wild Pokémon, protecting it for Ash, Dawn and Brock. Afterwards, both are captured. Sounds like perfect trivia for me. Danny199 (talk) 17:25, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

While true, it's just not significant enough to include. Also, comparison trivia on Pokémon pages is generally discouraged due to the amount of subjectivity it involves with regards to notability. --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 17:36, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
Seeing that most of the Trivia I add is almost directly removed again, can you explain to me what the Trivia sector is for? Everything I include is to specific or not neccessary. Danny199 (talk) 06:36, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
The information that belongs in the trivia section really varies depending on the type of article. In general, though, the trivia section is for small little tidbits about the subject of the article that don't really fit anywhere else on the page, yet are interesting and informative enough to include. --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 14:02, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

Sorry

Sorry about that, I completely forgot I could edit all the page by one entire time. I promise after the last edit I was programming to do on the page this kind of thing is not going to repeat, I'll edit everything together. Really, it was not my intention to polute the history board I just forgot it :/ - unsigned comment from HilbertCalderon (talkcontribs)

No worries, just remember to preview from now on. Thanks! --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 21:59, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

Sorry about my over editing. I will try preview it next time -Mygs

That's alright. Just remember to always preview your edits before saving so that you get it right the first time. Also, for future reference, please sign your comments on talk pages with four tildes (~~~~). If done correctly, it will produce your signature with a link to your talk page as well as a time stamp. --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 02:56, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

About using the roundy templates

I have a huge question that I'd really like to ask you. I've been trying to use the roundy templates in the tables, and unfortunately I'm having difficulty in being able to use it on the bottom row of the table. Like for instance, if I try putting it in the same way as it is done with the top row, it does absolutely nothing. I'm not sure if it's a bug with the tables or if I'm actually using it incorrectly.

I try using this code: {| class="roundy" style="background: #C3C3C3; margin-left: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; border: 3px solid #2C2C2C" |- ! style="background: #FFFFFF; {{roundytl|5px}}"| Image<small><sup>[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team|{{color|{{md red color}}|R}}]][[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team|{{color|{{md blue color}}|B}}]][[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|{{color|{{md time color}}|T}}]][[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|{{color|{{md darkness color}}|D}}]][[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky|{{color|{{md sky color}}|S}}]]</sup></small> ! style="background: #FFFFFF;| Image<small><sup>[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon (WiiWare)|{{color|{{silver color dark}}|WW}}]]</sup></small> ! style="background: #FFFFFF"| Tile ! style="background: #FFFFFF"| In-game Description<small><sup>[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team|{{color|{{md red color}}|R}}]][[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team|{{color|{{md blue color}}|B}}]]</sup></small> ! style="background: #FFFFFF"| In-game Description<small><sup>[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|{{color|{{md time color}}|T}}]][[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|{{color|{{md darkness color}}|D}}]]</sup></small> ! style="background: #FFFFFF"| In-game Description<small><sup>[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky|{{color|{{md sky color}}|S}}]]</sup></small> ! style="background: #FFFFFF"| In-game Description<small><sup>[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon (WiiWare)|{{color|{{silver color dark}}|WW}}]]</sup></small> ! style="background: #FFFFFF; {{roundytr|5px}}"| Details |- style="background: #FFFFFF" {{anchor|Stairs}} | align="center"| [[File:StairsUp.png]][[File:StairsDown.png]][[File:StairsDisabled.png]] | align="center"| | align="center"| Stairs | | | | | To further advance in a dungeon, a player must find the stairs. On the last floor of most dungeons, it will take the team out of the dungeon. The stairs can go up or down, depending on if the player is to descend to the dungeon's basement floor or ascend to the top of it. |- style="background: #FFFFFF" {{anchor|Warp Points}} | align="center"| [[File:WarpTrap.png]] | align="center"| | align="center"| Warp Points | | | | | Warp Points are found at the last floor of some optional dungeons. It instantly warps the team out of the dungeon. |- style="background: #FFFFFF" {{anchor|Wonder Tile}} | align="center"| [[File:WonderTile.png]] | align="center"| | align="center"| Wonder Tile | | | | | Varying numbers of these can be found on a floor, if the dungeon contains them at all. If there is a yellow arrow above the player's or partner's head (indicating a stat problem such as lowered defense, accuracy, etc.), stepping on one of these will restore the normal state. However, it also cancels stat increments of the Pokémon. |- style="background: #FFFFFF" {{anchor|Rescue Point}} | align="center"| [[File:RescuePoint.png]] | align="center"| | align="center"| Rescue Point | | | | | Rescue Points are found when atempting friend rescues and appear at the same spot as the fainted Pokémon that are being rescued. |- style="background: #FFFFFF" {{anchor|Carpet}} | {{roundybr|5px}}; align="center"| [[File:KecleonCarpet.png]] | align="center"| | align="center"| Carpet | align="center"| — | align="center"| — | align="center"| — | align="center"| — | {{roundybr|5px}}| If the player finds a [[Kecleon Shop]], items are placed on these. The player may either buy or steal the items; however, thieves are confronted by many high-level Kecleon. |} But it ends up turning up like this:

ImageRBTDS ImageWW Tile In-game DescriptionRB In-game DescriptionTD In-game DescriptionS In-game DescriptionWW Details
StairsUp.pngStairsDown.pngStairsDisabled.png Stairs To further advance in a dungeon, a player must find the stairs. On the last floor of most dungeons, it will take the team out of the dungeon. The stairs can go up or down, depending on if the player is to descend to the dungeon's basement floor or ascend to the top of it.
WarpTrap.png Warp Points Warp Points are found at the last floor of some optional dungeons. It instantly warps the team out of the dungeon.
WonderTile.png Wonder Tile Varying numbers of these can be found on a floor, if the dungeon contains them at all. If there is a yellow arrow above the player's or partner's head (indicating a stat problem such as lowered defense, accuracy, etc.), stepping on one of these will restore the normal state. However, it also cancels stat increments of the Pokémon.
RescuePoint.png Rescue Point Rescue Points are found when atempting friend rescues and appear at the same spot as the fainted Pokémon that are being rescued.
KecleonCarpet.png Carpet If the player finds a Kecleon Shop, items are placed on these. The player may either buy or steal the items; however, thieves are confronted by many high-level Kecleon.

The bottom row just simply doesn't show any curved edges. I have to say, I'm terrible at programming, but I'm willing to learn! —Platinum Lucario (talk) 12:20, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Change your {{roundybl|5px}} and {{roundybr|5px}} to style="{{roundybl|5px}}" and style="{{roundybr|5px}}", respectively. --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 12:30, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
I just tried putting it in, but unfortunately the background still has sharp edges on the bottom row. As you can see here:

{| class="roundy" style="background: #C3C3C3; margin-left: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; border: 3px solid #2C2C2C" |- ! style="background: #FFFFFF; {{roundytl|5px}}"| Image<small><sup>[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team|{{color|{{md red color}}|R}}]][[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team|{{color|{{md blue color}}|B}}]][[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|{{color|{{md time color}}|T}}]][[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|{{color|{{md darkness color}}|D}}]][[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky|{{color|{{md sky color}}|S}}]]</sup></small> ! style="background: #FFFFFF;| Image<small><sup>[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon (WiiWare)|{{color|{{silver color dark}}|WW}}]]</sup></small> ! style="background: #FFFFFF"| Tile ! style="background: #FFFFFF"| In-game Description<small><sup>[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team|{{color|{{md red color}}|R}}]][[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team|{{color|{{md blue color}}|B}}]]</sup></small> ! style="background: #FFFFFF"| In-game Description<small><sup>[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|{{color|{{md time color}}|T}}]][[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|{{color|{{md darkness color}}|D}}]]</sup></small> ! style="background: #FFFFFF"| In-game Description<small><sup>[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky|{{color|{{md sky color}}|S}}]]</sup></small> ! style="background: #FFFFFF"| In-game Description<small><sup>[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon (WiiWare)|{{color|{{silver color dark}}|WW}}]]</sup></small> ! style="background: #FFFFFF; {{roundytr|5px}}"| Details |- style="background: #FFFFFF" {{anchor|Stairs}} | align="center"| [[File:StairsUp.png]][[File:StairsDown.png]][[File:StairsDisabled.png]] | align="center"| | align="center"| Stairs | | | | | To further advance in a dungeon, a player must find the stairs. On the last floor of most dungeons, it will take the team out of the dungeon. The stairs can go up or down, depending on if the player is to descend to the dungeon's basement floor or ascend to the top of it. |- style="background: #FFFFFF" {{anchor|Warp Points}} | align="center"| [[File:WarpTrap.png]] | align="center"| | align="center"| Warp Points | | | | | Warp Points are found at the last floor of some optional dungeons. It instantly warps the team out of the dungeon. |- style="background: #FFFFFF" {{anchor|Wonder Tile}} | align="center"| [[File:WonderTile.png]] | align="center"| | align="center"| Wonder Tile | | | | | Varying numbers of these can be found on a floor, if the dungeon contains them at all. If there is a yellow arrow above the player's or partner's head (indicating a stat problem such as lowered defense, accuracy, etc.), stepping on one of these will restore the normal state. However, it also cancels stat increments of the Pokémon. |- style="background: #FFFFFF" {{anchor|Rescue Point}} | align="center"| [[File:RescuePoint.png]] | align="center"| | align="center"| Rescue Point | | | | | Rescue Points are found when atempting friend rescues and appear at the same spot as the fainted Pokémon that are being rescued. |- style="background: #FFFFFF" {{anchor|Carpet}} | style="{{roundybl|5px}}"; align="center"| [[File:KecleonCarpet.png]] | align="center"| | align="center"| Carpet | align="center"| — | align="center"| — | align="center"| — | align="center"| — | style="{{roundybr|5px}}"|If the player finds a [[Kecleon Shop]], items are placed on these. The player may either buy or steal the items; however, thieves are confronted by many high-level Kecleon. |}

ImageRBTDS ImageWW Tile In-game DescriptionRB In-game DescriptionTD In-game DescriptionS In-game DescriptionWW Details
StairsUp.pngStairsDown.pngStairsDisabled.png Stairs To further advance in a dungeon, a player must find the stairs. On the last floor of most dungeons, it will take the team out of the dungeon. The stairs can go up or down, depending on if the player is to descend to the dungeon's basement floor or ascend to the top of it.
WarpTrap.png Warp Points Warp Points are found at the last floor of some optional dungeons. It instantly warps the team out of the dungeon.
WonderTile.png Wonder Tile Varying numbers of these can be found on a floor, if the dungeon contains them at all. If there is a yellow arrow above the player's or partner's head (indicating a stat problem such as lowered defense, accuracy, etc.), stepping on one of these will restore the normal state. However, it also cancels stat increments of the Pokémon.
RescuePoint.png Rescue Point Rescue Points are found when atempting friend rescues and appear at the same spot as the fainted Pokémon that are being rescued.
KecleonCarpet.png Carpet If the player finds a Kecleon Shop, items are placed on these. The player may either buy or steal the items; however, thieves are confronted by many high-level Kecleon.

Is there something else I need to put into the code? —Platinum Lucario (talk) 12:47, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

There shouldn't be a ; between style="{{roundybl|5px}}" and align="center". Other than that, the bottom right corner looks fine to me (on Google Chrome). Something worth noting is that on Firefox (and maybe other browsers), even after taking out the ;, you will not be able to see the roundy corners. What does work is taking out the style settings you set for the entire row (after the |- for the last row) and manually placing it in each of the last row's cells' settings. There are also a bunch of style issues with your code that, while technically not wrong, are considered outdated on Bulbapedia, namely the use of align="center". Coding is a bit hard to explain in words even though I'm trying my best to explain, but perhaps if I fixed up the table code in Dungeon tile, and you viewed the diff, it'd be easier for you to understand? --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 13:02, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
That would be fantastic. Thank you so much! I had no idea that the code that was used was outdated. I'm still learning things.—Platinum Lucario (talk) 13:12, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
Scratch that, I'm leaving that page alone for now since another staff member wants to edit the content on it as well. Instead, I'll try to explain how we format table code by using your second table and editing it.
This is your second table, exactly as it was when you first posted it:
ImageRBTDS ImageWW Tile In-game DescriptionRB In-game DescriptionTD In-game DescriptionS In-game DescriptionWW Details
StairsUp.pngStairsDown.pngStairsDisabled.png Stairs To further advance in a dungeon, a player must find the stairs. On the last floor of most dungeons, it will take the team out of the dungeon. The stairs can go up or down, depending on if the player is to descend to the dungeon's basement floor or ascend to the top of it.
WarpTrap.png Warp Points Warp Points are found at the last floor of some optional dungeons. It instantly warps the team out of the dungeon.
WonderTile.png Wonder Tile Varying numbers of these can be found on a floor, if the dungeon contains them at all. If there is a yellow arrow above the player's or partner's head (indicating a stat problem such as lowered defense, accuracy, etc.), stepping on one of these will restore the normal state. However, it also cancels stat increments of the Pokémon.
RescuePoint.png Rescue Point Rescue Points are found when atempting friend rescues and appear at the same spot as the fainted Pokémon that are being rescued.
KecleonCarpet.png Carpet If the player finds a Kecleon Shop, items are placed on these. The player may either buy or steal the items; however, thieves are confronted by many high-level Kecleon.
This is how it is, after fixing up the code:
ImageRBTDS ImageWW Tile In-game DescriptionRB In-game DescriptionTD In-game DescriptionS In-game DescriptionWW Details
StairsUp.pngStairsDown.pngStairsDisabled.png Stairs To further advance in a dungeon, a player must find the stairs. On the last floor of most dungeons, it will take the team out of the dungeon. The stairs can go up or down, depending on if the player is to descend to the dungeon's basement floor or ascend to the top of it.
WarpTrap.png Warp Points Warp Points are found at the last floor of some optional dungeons. It instantly warps the team out of the dungeon.
WonderTile.png Wonder Tile Varying numbers of these can be found on a floor, if the dungeon contains them at all. If there is a yellow arrow above the player's or partner's head (indicating a stat problem such as lowered defense, accuracy, etc.), stepping on one of these will restore the normal state. However, it also cancels stat increments of the Pokémon.
RescuePoint.png Rescue Point Rescue Points are found when atempting friend rescues and appear at the same spot as the fainted Pokémon that are being rescued.
KecleonCarpet.png Carpet If the player finds a Kecleon Shop, items are placed on these. The player may either buy or steal the items; however, thieves are confronted by many high-level Kecleon.
Sorry I can't explain in a more efficient way, but if you compare the codes side-by-side and study them for a bit, you should be able to figure out how table code works. If you have any remaining questions, feel free to ask. --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 13:38, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
Ah! Thank you so much! After looking at the differences, now I see what you mean about it. I have to take out the code next to the |-. And also, as you're showing me, it tells me that I have to take out the margin-left: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; code out of the table. I guess that's what was preventing the roundy edges from working on the bottom row. It all makes sense now. Thank you so much! —Platinum Lucario (talk) 14:05, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
Actually, the margin-left: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; was not what was preventing the roundy edges from working. What those do is just start the table 10 pixels from the left and leave 10 pixels of open space below the table. I left them out because they simply weren't needed for this table. What was preventing the roundy edges from working was the code next to the |-, which was overriding any other style codes for the cells in that row, namely the roundy calls. Like I said earlier, you have to manually insert that code into the style settings for each cell. So the bottom-left cell would get | style="background:#FFF; {{roundybl|5px}}" | <insert content for bottom-left cell>, the middle cells would get | style="background:#FFF" | <insert content for middle cells>, and the bottom-right cell would get | style="background:#FFF; {{roundybr|5px}}" | <insert content for bottom-right cell>. I hope it's clear now. --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 14:17, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
Ah! Now that totally makes sense. So basically if there's any code in the |-, it will use that code for the entire row of that table. I have to remember that if there's anything that needs to be inserted on the bottom cells, I have to make sure there isn't any code in that |- space. I will have to remember that only the middle cells should have codes in the |- space. Thanks again, I will also work on the other tables on the page and fix them up too. I might also add some tables to the page Status ailments in Mystery Dungeon too! —Platinum Lucario (talk) 14:36, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Database in the background

Hello Carmen,

I just picked on a random Jr. Admin, hope you don't mind. I am getting back into the RPG gaming aspect of pokemon and am having fun trying to collect all the pokemon in the Gen 3 games. I am a database administrator IRL and I find that I would like to look up the information I want in a database format. Do you know if there is a background database powering the website at all? I would like to be able to query information to make lists of pokemon based on specific games or find all pokemon on a given route or things like that. I'd be willing to create a database of this information, but before I take on such an endeavor I'd like to know if someone has done it before me.

Thanks, Charmeister Charmeister (talk) 19:50, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

I'm not entirely sure what you're talking about, but as far as I'm concerned, there is no sort of background database powering the website. I don't think we need one, but then again, I'm not sure. Things concerning the inner workings of the site are out of my reach, so I am definitely not the person to ask. --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 22:08, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Ninja

I think you've misunderstood, I changed the category to Ninja because Ninjas in incorrect. The plural of Ninja is Ninja, just as the plural of sheep is sheep, examples of this are even in the Pokémon games and anime. Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 15:03, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

"Ninjas" is also correct. "Ninja" as a plural is used to reflect the word's Japanese origin, since Japanese words don't really differentiate between singular and plural (as far as I'm concerned). However, this is an English wiki, so we use "ninjas". If you would cite more specific examples of "ninja" being used as a plural in the games and anime, however, this would be a case more worth considering. --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 15:35, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
The description of Mahognay town in HGSS and a character in XY099 use the plural Ninja. Ninjas is an americanisation, commonly used but still incorrect. Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 16:05, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
Kagetomo told Ippei to "look after my Ninja". Many characters have reffered to the "art of the ninja" rather than 'the art of the ninjas' - unsigned comment from 05308 (talkcontribs)
I want to point out that "ninjas" is used in Mahogany's map description in-game, and "ninjas" has been used in character quotes in-game as well. On top of that, dictionaries disagree that it's incorrect English usage, and Wikipedia also notes that it can be ninjas in English. Kai * the Arc Toraph 16:29, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
Welcome to the Home of the Ninja!GSC or Home of the NinjaHGSS (Japanese: ようこそ にんじゃの さとへ Welcome to the home of the ninja.), not home of the ninjas.

I'd also like to point out that wikipeida can make a similur mistsake to Bulbapedia as they are simalu websites in nature. As I said, ninjas is an americanisation and is often used and not believed to be incorrect. Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 16:39, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

"A town with a suspicious air to it. It's a hiding place for ninjas." Right there on the page, just below the town description you're quoting. And Wikipedia pulled its citation of "ninjas" from two dictionaries, one American and one British. Are you going to say those dictionaries are wrong? Because if it's in a reputable dictionary, it's acceptable English and cannot be wrong by English standards (until a time it's changed) because it's recognized as correct. Kai * the Arc Toraph 16:55, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
"Ninjas" has been used in-game (non-exhaustive list):
  • "Master KOGA comes from a long line of ninjas.", Pokémon Red, Blue, FireRed, and LeafGreen
  • "It's amazing how ninja can terrify even now!", Pokémon Red and Blue
  • "Listen, don't you think my POKéMON are kind of like ninjas?", Pokémon XD
  • "We ninjas appear where you least expect us!", Pokémon Diamond and Pearl
  • "There are several kinds of ninjas. Are you an Iga or a Kouga ninja?", Pokémon Diamond and Pearl
  • "I'm Janine! The essence of ninjas' moves obtained by training! Feel the horror from the Poison-type Pokémon who've mastered it.", Pokémon Black 2 and White 2
"Ninja" is also used as a plural in-game (non-exhaustive list):
  • "Ninja have a long history of using animals!", Pokémon Red and Blue
  • "We ninja conceal ourselves under our camouflage cloaks. I bet you didn't know where I was!", Pokémon Emerald
  • "We ninja conceal ourselves under our invisibility cloaks. I bet you didn’t know where I was!", Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire
  • "We ninja make the papier-mâché for our invisibility cloaks by hand!", Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire
"Ninja" is also used as a plural in The Legend of the Ninja Hero! around 2:14.
Many dictionaries list both as correct. The argument really shouldn't be about which is correct (because both are correct). --Abcboy (talk) 17:03, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

Why stick to the present?

You said to stick to the present tense here, http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Vital_Spirit_(Ability)&diff=2430808&oldid=2430801 ' However the Dream World shut down, so... you see where I'm going with this? Unowninator (talk) 03:48, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Normally, descriptions for game mechanics, such as moves and Abilities, should be written in the present tense. But since you brought up the point that the Dream World is no longer accessible, so that specific characteristic of Vital Spirit can no longer be performed...I think this would be a case in which it is okay to use the past tense. You can change it back, but please do mention (in the article, right after that sentence) that this specific effect can no longer occur because the Dream World shut down, since that fact is quite relevant. --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 04:30, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Done, thanks. Unowninator (talk) 04:42, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Helping

Thank you for the tip, I am very thankfull for that! - unsigned comment from Kenzey (talkcontribs)

No problem. Also, for future reference, please sign your talk page comments with four tildes ~~~~. --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 16:20, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

I have to learn many to be so good as you kenzey 16:27, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

Making new pages

Hello Carmen, I think we should add more movie character pages specifically pokemon such as Latios and Latias from M18.--AshKetchumonfirex90 (talk) 02:31, 24 April 2016 (UTC)AshKetchumonfirex90.

I'm not that up to date with the Pokémon movies, so I'm not the one to ask about specific Pokémon in recent movies. However, in general, movie Pokémon do not get their own pages unless they were the main characters in that movie or if their role was significant in the plot, as per our notability requirements, point 6. If you believe that there is a Pokémon that does satisfy those requirements, you can create a draft of the Pokémon's page in your userspace (after becoming autoconfirmed) at User:AshKetchumonfirex90/<pagename> and then contact our Head of Anime, Pokemaster97, listing reasons why you think that Pokémon deserves its own page. --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 02:44, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

The unaired episodes

I feel that since we know the basic important events from those episodes based on the trailer, they should be on the timeline so that people can know how the whole meteorite plot wrapped up. I added the note that they were not aired in the dub and later retconned out of canon, so does that help? - unsigned comment from Lawrence (talkcontribs)

It's not our job to assume how events carry out. If the episodes never aired, then as far as we know (for 100% certainty), there is just a gaping hole in the plot, which won't be filled up until the episodes air (if they ever do air, that is). We can't do anything about that. We're not going to say that certain events happened if they were never shown to happen. --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 16:50, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
But we're not assuming anything, all the events I listed are things we clearly SEE happen in the trailer and read in official blurbs released about the episodes prior to being pulled. There have been cases of events being posted before episodes even air based on previews and common logic, so what's the difference here? - unsigned comment from Lawrence (talkcontribs)
Still, the episodes have not aired. The case with events being posted before episodes even air is that they are all commented out with <!-- and -->. They then get unhidden after the episode actually airs. If BW023 (unaired) and BW024 (unaired) ever get aired, the events can get unhidden after the episodes air. --Carmen (Talk | contribs) 17:01, 24 April 2016 (UTC)