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::::: [[EP226#Errors|That was also an error]]: ''Misty says that she was in the "Best 8" of the Whirl Cup and Ash was in the "Best 16", but they were really in the "Best 16" and "Best 32", respectively.'' This error was probably a result of the earlier made error. Because we know for certain the battle between Misty and Trinity was a third round match, and that the Whirl Cup has 64 participants. That undoubtedly means the winner of Misty vs. Trinity went to the fourth round, which is quarterfinals, which is Top 8 and as such Misty ended Top 16 and Ash ended Top 32. There's no doubt about this, it's only that the writers screwed up with the rankings two times. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 15:46, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
::::: [[EP226#Errors|That was also an error]]: ''Misty says that she was in the "Best 8" of the Whirl Cup and Ash was in the "Best 16", but they were really in the "Best 16" and "Best 32", respectively.'' This error was probably a result of the earlier made error. Because we know for certain the battle between Misty and Trinity was a third round match, and that the Whirl Cup has 64 participants. That undoubtedly means the winner of Misty vs. Trinity went to the fourth round, which is quarterfinals, which is Top 8 and as such Misty ended Top 16 and Ash ended Top 32. There's no doubt about this, it's only that the writers screwed up with the rankings two times. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 15:46, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
:::::: Actually, I'm pretty sure it would be Champion (final round winner), then Top 2 (final round runner up), then Top 4 (semi-finals), then Top 8 (quarter-finals), then Top 16, then Top 32, then Top 64, then everyone else, so in point of fact, Misty would actually be Top 8, not Top 16, and likewise Ash would in fact be Top 16. Think the Silver Conference or the other leagues, as they generally do those kinds of multipliers. Also, Misty and Trinity were actually the quarter-finals. Trinity and the Feraligatr trainer were the semi-finals [that much was made very clear not just from the dialogue but also from the visuals of the ending of the episode], and whoever that trainer fought against was the finals. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] ([[User talk:Weedle Mchairybug|talk]]) 02:32, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
:::::: Actually, I'm pretty sure it would be Champion (final round winner), then Top 2 (final round runner up), then Top 4 (semi-finals), then Top 8 (quarter-finals), then Top 16, then Top 32, then Top 64, then everyone else, so in point of fact, Misty would actually be Top 8, not Top 16, and likewise Ash would in fact be Top 16. Think the Silver Conference or the other leagues, as they generally do those kinds of multipliers. Also, Misty and Trinity were actually the quarter-finals. Trinity and the Feraligatr trainer were the semi-finals [that much was made very clear not just from the dialogue but also from the visuals of the ending of the episode], and whoever that trainer fought against was the finals. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] ([[User talk:Weedle Mchairybug|talk]]) 02:32, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
:::::: EDIT: Correction: Since the match Trinity lost to was the finals (not just stated, but also made clear from the awards ceremony in terms of visuals), that would actually make Misty top 4, not top 8. Likewise, that would make Ash top 8, not top 16. 02:38, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

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Poster

I just noticed that the logo on the poster looks like the haed of a celebi should this be in the trivia or am i over thinking it? Rucario64 01:49, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

I think you're overthinking it. And plus, headers on talk pages should be Level 2 Headers, unless it's a subsection of the current subject. - espeonA 02:01, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Ohh yeah! Sorry about that thanks anyway!Rucario64 02:22, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Misty's ranking

In the EP217 "The Perfect Match!", after the win of Trinity against Misty, the commentator says that she is advancing to the semi-finals so Misty made Top 8, Ash Top 16 and so on, no? - unsigned comment from LeoKetchumB (talkcontribs)

From the episode's article's Errors section:
Also in the English dub, the announcer says that the winner of the third round match between Misty and Trinity would advance to the semi-finals, but the fourth round of a 64-member tournament would be the quarter-finals (64→32→16→8).
It might not hurt to mention this discrepancy somewhere on this article, however. --Pie ~ 17:05, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
New argument in the EP226 "Espeon, Not Included", Misty tells Sakura that she has finished Top 8 and Ash Top 16 --LeoKetchumB (talk) 15:09, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
That was also an error: Misty says that she was in the "Best 8" of the Whirl Cup and Ash was in the "Best 16", but they were really in the "Best 16" and "Best 32", respectively. This error was probably a result of the earlier made error. Because we know for certain the battle between Misty and Trinity was a third round match, and that the Whirl Cup has 64 participants. That undoubtedly means the winner of Misty vs. Trinity went to the fourth round, which is quarterfinals, which is Top 8 and as such Misty ended Top 16 and Ash ended Top 32. There's no doubt about this, it's only that the writers screwed up with the rankings two times. ☼ BlazingFist ☼ 15:46, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
Actually, I'm pretty sure it would be Champion (final round winner), then Top 2 (final round runner up), then Top 4 (semi-finals), then Top 8 (quarter-finals), then Top 16, then Top 32, then Top 64, then everyone else, so in point of fact, Misty would actually be Top 8, not Top 16, and likewise Ash would in fact be Top 16. Think the Silver Conference or the other leagues, as they generally do those kinds of multipliers. Also, Misty and Trinity were actually the quarter-finals. Trinity and the Feraligatr trainer were the semi-finals [that much was made very clear not just from the dialogue but also from the visuals of the ending of the episode], and whoever that trainer fought against was the finals. Weedle Mchairybug (talk) 02:32, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
EDIT: Correction: Since the match Trinity lost to was the finals (not just stated, but also made clear from the awards ceremony in terms of visuals), that would actually make Misty top 4, not top 8. Likewise, that would make Ash top 8, not top 16. 02:38, 23 December 2014 (UTC)