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::::Generations I to III are as viable as IV V, aren't they? We can include notice about category split in Generation IV... Maybe something like this? I tried to merge old and new templates (though I'm not good with formatting). &mdash; &forall;<tt>[[User:ЫъГЬ|<span style="color:black"><u>ЫъГѣ</u></span>]] &exist;[[User_talk:ЫъГЬ|<span style="color:black"><u>Talk page</u></span>]]</tt>  11:55, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
::::Generations I to III are as viable as IV V, aren't they? We can include notice about category split in Generation IV... Maybe something like this? I tried to merge old and new templates (though I'm not good with formatting). &mdash; &forall;<tt>[[User:ЫъГЬ|<span style="color:black"><u>ЫъГѣ</u></span>]] &exist;[[User_talk:ЫъГЬ|<span style="color:black"><u>Talk page</u></span>]]</tt>  11:55, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::Now that it's mentioned in the intro of each type article, I don't see any need for that. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 04:38, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::Now that it's mentioned in the intro of each type article, I don't see any need for that. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 04:38, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
== Images? ==
I noticed on a couple of the type pages there is an image of (insert type here) Pokémon in the anime. Are they really needed? If not I'll just remove them. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 20:06, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

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Attack Notes

should they be to the point, or fancy?

Aqua Jet

  • Always attacks first
  • The user lunges at the foe at a speed that makes it almost invisible. It is sure to strike first.

File:Ani081MS.gifMAGNEDETHFile:Ani082MS.gifTALKFile:Ani462MS.gif 02:16, 12 December 2007 (UT)

Centered?

Damage-dealing moves

Name Category Contest Power Accuracy PP Target Notes
Aqua Jet File:PhysicalIC.gif File:BeautyIC.gif 40 100% 20 One foe Always attacks first
Aqua Tail File:PhysicalIC.gif File:CuteIC.gif 90 90% 10 One foe The user attacks by swinging its tail as if it were a vicious wave in a raging storm.

centered? or just leave them off to the right? File:Ani081MS.gifMAGNEDETHFile:Ani082MS.gifTALKFile:Ani462MS.gif 03:25, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Just.. to the left. Tina δ 03:29, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
left?!?! thats not really an option.. File:Ani081MS.gifMAGNEDETHFile:Ani082MS.gifTALKFile:Ani462MS.gif 03:47, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Yeah just leave it as it is, to the left. You do know which way is left and right. Right?File:Ani471MS.gifPokemaniac102File:AniEggMS.gif 03:48, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
yes, but im asking, put the damage/accuracy in the center or to the right? all the pages are to the right, and i was thinking about converting them. File:Ani081MS.gifMAGNEDETHFile:Ani082MS.gifTALKFile:Ani462MS.gif 03:51, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
It doesn't look tacky in the right. Leave it. Tina δ 03:52, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Yeah. Put them in the center.File:Ani471MS.gifPokemaniac102File:AniEggMS.gif 03:54, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
we have a conflict here. one says this, and the other says that. try looking at Electric and Water. also, could somone answer my question above about attack notes? File:Ani081MS.gifMAGNEDETHFile:Ani082MS.gifTALKFile:Ani462MS.gif 03:57, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
To the point for the attacks, and actually, center sounds good. Tina δ 22:38, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
What she said. To the point and in the center. -File:Spr 3e 186.gifニョロトノ666File:Spr 3e 186.gif
some moves have no secondary notes (like Surf) so, should they be left blank? File:Ani081MS.gifMAGNEDETHFile:Ani082MS.gifTALKFile:Ani462MS.gif 22:54, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

yes leave it blank. duh!Lilio 00:49, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Call it "No other effects". END. It's the Θρtιmαtum♏Talk|Links01:27 22 Jun 2008
holy crap, this is from back in December. ive completed them all. -- MAGNEDETH 04:50, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
WHAT???!!!!Lilio3:06, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Look at the dates on the comment. You were replying to a seven-month-old conversation. --Martonimos((Argh|Blargh)) 07:20, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Trivia

"There is at least one Pokémon of each type combination that has a 4x weakness to Water."

What does this mean?--Skaisdead 00:36, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

It means that in every type, there is a Pokémon that has a 4x weakness to water, though this isn't exactly true, cause Dragon and Grass are resistant to Water Chuck67322 20:59, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
No, it means that there is a Pokémon created with each of the type combinations that are 4x weak to Water. These are Rock/Ground (e.g. Onix), Fire/Rock (e.g. Magcargo) and Fire/Ground (e.g. Camerupt). There are no other type combinations with 4x weakness to Water. UltimateSephiroth (about me · chat · edits) 21:06, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
The same is true of Flying and Grass. What of it? --Skaisdead 00:18, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
Added to the Flying and Grass pages. Werdnae (talk) 06:20, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Type combination trivia

Since it has been recently removed and re-added, I'v decided to bring this up here. The section above explains what the trivia should mean, but the current wording is ambiguous and could mean either the intended meaning, or that each type has a Pokémon which is double weak to water, which is, of course, incorrect.

Currently it reads There is at least one Pokémon of each type combination that has a double weakness to Water.

I'm unsure how to word it better. All I could come up with was For each possible type combination with a double weakness to Water there is at least one Pokémon with that type combination. However that sounds a bit too wordy.

Can anyone come up with something better? (i.e. isn't ambiguous, but isn't too wordy) Werdnae (talk) 06:10, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

"For each possible type combination with a double weakness to Water there is at least one Pokémon with that type combination. (examples: Ground/Rock, Geodude, Fire/Rock, Magcargo, Fire/Ground, Numel)" Or we could list them off, like:
  • Ground/Rock, *insert Pokémon*
  • Fire/Ground, *insert Pokémon*

And so on. It might be wordy, but if it works, it's fine. R.A. Hunter Blade 16:20, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Trivia

Every main character in the anime (with the obvious exception of Max) has had at least one Water-type Pokémon.)

Would the fact that Max borrowed a Poliwag from Roxanne in Gonna Rule the School! and Corphish from Ash in Candid Camerupt! qualify him to be a main character in the anime has had at least one Water-type Pokémon. Elemental 02:37, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Nope. We could always change it to "owned a Water-type" if you think it's still too ambiguous. --ZestyCactus 02:40, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Inconsistency

In the statistics section, it says there are 110 water types, but in the trivia section, it says 109. Which one should be changed? --ルレ 22:31, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Ignoring all alternate forms (Arceus, Castform, Rotom, others?), I'm pretty sure that 109 is the correct number. --Minimiscience 22:38, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Signature move

Could we mention that water type was the type with highest signature move? such as crabhammer,shellblade,octazooka and camouflage. jomphol 12:11, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Dragons have more: Mist Ball, Luster Purge, Spacial Rend, Roar of Time, Shadow Force, Cross Flame/Thunder Blue Fire, Lightning Strike and Frozen World.
Also Bugs have more, and Shell Blade has never been sig move.----無限の知性DENNOUZENSHI 12:31, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Special or Physical?

In generations I and II (and III?), were water-type moves special or physical? Should this be included in all type articles? EnosShayrem 02:42, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

You are completely correct, it should be included in the articles. It used to be included in the box on the right, but was removed when it was redesigned. Somehow it never made it into the text of the articles. I've gone and put it on all type articles now. --SnorlaxMonster 04:55, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
But, but {{ElementalTypes}} template lists previously special types on the left and physical on the right, isn't it enough? I think we just can include notice about this formating into this template and thats it. — ∀ЫъГѣTalk page 11:13, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
I see, so it was there. But why was it removed? EnosShayrem's question proves that this was needed. --— ∀ЫъГѣTalk page 11:13, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
It still lists them left and right, but it doesn't label that. It is better to have it in the article in text form, either by itself or accompanied by the template. I think it was removed because it is no longer relevant and has the potential to confuse users playing Generations IV and V. --SnorlaxMonster 11:20, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
Elemental types
Formerly Physical
Normal
Formerly Special
Fire
Generations I to III are as viable as IV V, aren't they? We can include notice about category split in Generation IV... Maybe something like this? I tried to merge old and new templates (though I'm not good with formatting). — ∀ЫъГѣTalk page 11:55, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
Now that it's mentioned in the intro of each type article, I don't see any need for that. Werdnae (talk) 04:38, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Images?

I noticed on a couple of the type pages there is an image of (insert type here) Pokémon in the anime. Are they really needed? If not I'll just remove them. Frozen Fennec 20:06, 6 March 2012 (UTC)