Talk:Version-exclusive Pokémon

Hey guys!

Remember how this page used to be about how certain Pokémon were missing from certain games, and how it confused the hell out of everyone? Yes? Well, thanks to The Trom's efforts, we've hopefully fixed that. The page now lists Pokémon and marks which versions they are or aren't available in. For more information, check out this discussion. ---((Marton imos)) 12:15, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

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• Archive 1 (discussions from before the switch/October 5, 2006 – January 4, 2009)

New discussion

Looks good but even the not available boxes for the mystery dungeons link to the pages.--MisterE13 16:43, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

That was a design technique of Jioruji Derako. It's the same for all boxes on this page. Available or not available, they all link to the page. — THE TROM — 21:07, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Coulda' sworn it wasn't like that before but if they're all like that then it's OK. Some other templates that use a similar system might have to be changed though. (ie. Move Tutors)--MisterE13 23:23, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

G instead of B

Anyone have any problems with it as it is? The note is clear enough that Green means US Blue and Blue means the Japanese one? TTEchidna 04:07, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

This is great. The entire article is 100x better. The design just feels more welcoming. I'm ashamed I didn't think of this style before. As for the G/B thing, I think it's rather clear. MK 15:54, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Emerald safari zone vs. Birds and Regis in Pt

Why is it we have the Emerald safari zone ones outside of the table, yet for certain Pokémon in Platinum, we mention them when both groups require the national dex?--MisterE13 22:02, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

We can blame me for that. Because of the approx. 30 Emerald exclusives, I decided just to list them, or the table would be larger than the warnings previously here. Platinum didn't have as many exclusives as Emerald so I put them in the table. — THE TROM — 08:46, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Possible other tables

It might be helpful to have a table to show Pokemon completely unavailable in certain generations without trading with other generations (e.g. Mewtwo for Generation II, or Larvitar for Generation III). Perhaps even a table of those Pokemon to appear in every version of the game without trading might be interesting, if somewhat less useful. I admit, I can't really be bothered to do this myself at the moment, but I could later. Idantlol 22:25, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

The reason we haven't got these listed (particularly for Gen III) is because of the sheer amount of Pokemon excluded in the Hoenn games (see HDex). And typically, starters and legnedaries cannot be obtained in other games than their originals. — THE TROM — 06:17, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Even so, it isn't an impossible task to list 186 pokemon (if we include Jirachi and Deoxys). If the worst comes to the worst, you could just make a separate page for it. As it is, it can be quite a hassle finding information on where some pokemon are actually found. Idantlol 18:07, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Seedot in Sapphire and Lotad in Ruby?

The article claims the following: "Surskit can be found in Pokémon Emerald, but only when the TV says they're swarming somewhere. Through the same way, Lotad and Seedot can be found in Ruby and Sapphire, respectively." The second doesn't seem right to me. I have played pokémon Sapphire for over 700 hours (I know, call me lifeles) and I have never met any Seedot swarm through the tv (I did see surskit and skitty swarms however). Also I looked it up on internet and I didn't find any info about seedot being catchable in Sapphire or Lotad in ruby. Even great sites like serebii.net never mention it and just say that the only way to get seedot in sapphire and lotad in ruby is by trading them from the other version. Mijzelffan 17:55, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

You need to mix records with someone from the other game. — THE TROM — 02:47, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

I have done that like fifty times with ruby players, sapphire players and emerald players. Can't someone upload a screenshot or a link to a video for evidence or something? Mijzelffan 11:28, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

HG/SS Version Exclusives

Hey I was browsing around the Net and Serebii just made a list of the version exclusive Pokémon. I don't know set the chart of them up. Could omeone do it, or tell me how? ♪♪Shiny Pachirisu :) ♪♪ 19:44, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Any news if they are going to pull the American swith-a-roo with Phanpy and Teddiursa like in Generation II?Zabbethx 21:22, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

None yet. —darklordtrom 21:24, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Generation II: Japanese or American list?

The Gen II section opens with a comment explaining that the Pokémon exclusive to either Gold or Silver are reversed between version when you compare the Japanese to the American. However, it doesn't point out which nation's list is presented... Help? Doctorhook 01:19, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

it quite obviously states that "in the Japanese versions, they ae the opposite" which must mean the lists are according to the English versions. after all, this is an English wiki. -- MAGNEDETH 01:27, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Here's an Idea

Even though that Latios and Latias are not true version exclusives because of the hacking or events, people can mistake them as version exclusives, but my plan is to mention this in a short paragraph with the intention of reducing confusion, but I need some input to see what other people think of this, though I do know what I will write about this. -Tyler53841 20:55, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Missing from the List

I don't know for sure, but i think Mr. Mime and Mime Jr. are exclusive to Diamond version (they may be in platinum, i'm not sure), but i know they're not in pearl. At the same time, Bonsley and Suduwoodo are only in Pearl Version(again, i don't know about platinum) I hope this helps:) - unsigned comment from Canus albinus (talk • contribs)

You can get the respective pre-evos in the Trophy Garden... and Mr. Mime is in Platinum, it's somewhere around Route 218. Sudowoodo's on 221 in Platinum. So they're in all the games. ▫▪Ťïňắ ^♫♥ 16:13, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Pokewalker

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courses, the player can get Sableye and Meowth respectively on both versions, though these are normally exclusives. Should this be mentioned? Jmvb 13:12, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

I doubt it. It's the case for lots of Pokéwalker courses... in fact, you can even get Pokémon you shouldn't be able to catch until after the National Dex. Maybe mentioning how the Pokéwalker changes the availability of Pokémon, but I wouldn't go beyond that. ʝɑzzmotɦ _❝❞✎ 16:14, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Pokémon White

Isn't the BW version exclusive list a bit... big? It seems kinda confusing. Does anyone think it would be a good idea to have a separate list for all the White Forest exclusives? We don't seem to include Pokémon that are found in Emerald's Safari Zone in Ruby and Sapphire's list. PDL 02:48, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Definition of version-exclusive Pokémon

Version-exclusive Pokémon are Pokémon which can be obtained in one game but not another when the games are in the same pair/triplet, without intervention from another game other than another of the same game. Events and the Dream World are not counted in this. It has nothing to do with wild availability. Cranidos and Shieldon are version exclusive, as are Persian and Primeape, despite not being available in the wild. Glitches are excluded completely. If you want to debate this, reply below. --SnorlaxMonster 06:01, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Strongly agreed. Quite honestly, I'm not sure Monmen and Churine should even be listed as such, as you can get the other one via an in-game trade. Unknowen900 06:41, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

I agree, the same goes for Volbeat, which can be obtained in White by breeding Illumise. Is it OK to remove them? XVuvuzela2010X 08:56, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

If we remove Monmen and Churine and leave a note, the same should go for Volbeat. --SnorlaxMonster 12:03, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

I'd just like to note that I noticed a typo I made in the original definition, so have changed it. Basically, it means that trade evolutions are OK because you can interact with a game as long as it is the same game version. --SnorlaxMonster 12:07, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

If you're insisting on having a whole table for White Forest Exclusive Pokémon...

At least fix it so that the field for Pokémon Black doesn't show up in the table. It's pretty much unneeded otherwise. Also, add one for Emerald's Safari Zone exclusives as well. PDL 20:05, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I added a table for Emerald's exclusives, but it's still not looking too good with those redundant fields for Ruby and Sapphire in them... PDL 20:35, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

I think long lists look better in tables than in text. If you don't like the template being redundant, you can use something like the one on BW's page, which is where I got the base code from, from where I then modified the list to look like all the others on this page. --SnorlaxMonster 10:56, 29 December 2010 (UTC)