Talk:Core series

Just wondering?

In the Japanese version's of any main series game, does the word "version" exist or is that just international usage. Because on the box arts it just say for example Pearl or Ruby.--Pokéboy93 02:42, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Trivia

• Each generation's third version does not use its mascots official Ken Sugimori artwork. Blastoise (Japanese), Pikachu (Japanese and English), Suicune, Rayquaza, and Giratina use specially made artwork.

The original Red, Green, and Blue, and the English Gold and Silver don't seem to use the official artwork either. Am I wrong? Or did he publish more than one official work of these back then? - MK (^t/_c) 07:51, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Colors

I don't know where else to put this, so since I noticed it here first, I'll put it here. I'm not very familiar with the way wikis work, but I've noticed in the source that each Version has its own "color". I'm not talking about the name of the game, I'm talking about the HTML color that it's assigned in the wiki. For example, Red Version's "color" ("red color") is #FF1111, and FireRed's "color" ("firered color") is #FFAAAA. Anyway, what I'd like to know is...where did those specific colors come from? How were those specific colors chosen? And why aren't White and Black Version's "colors" #000000 and #FFFFFF, respectively, instead of what they are currently (#444444 and #C3C3C3, respectively)? I can understand that lighter/darker colors were chosen for visibility purposes, but as the colors are right now, SoulSilver's color (#E1E1E1) is whiter than White's own color! It just doesn't look right, having White Versions be less white than SoulSilver Version... —Tyeforce 22:36, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Well... we also have "Black color dark/light" and "White color dark/light". You can't make white lighter, and you can't make black darker. Sooo. Also it's a really bad idea to have pure white text... when the default background is white. Another thing is, as you pointed out, Red isn't pure #ff0000. So why should BW be their 'pure' color? D:

... oh yeah and #000 is kinda the default text color, too... >_> ▫▪Ťïňắ ^♫♥ 22:41, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I understand that. But shouldn't we change either SoulSilver's color or White's color, because it doesn't look right with SoulSilver's color being whiter than White's... Also, is there a page that lists all the colors, along with their light and dark versions? I'd like to make a list of them all, but digging through the source code isn't exactly the most convenient method, lol. (I'm using the colors for something I'm doing.) —Tyeforce 23:18, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

I apologise for the format; I took these out of an Excel file I have. Some of the light colors are now outdated (as in, we changed them on the pedia and I didn't change them on my sheet) and I only have up until Platinum.

Click show to view

Regular Bug A8B820 Dark 705848 Dragon 7038F8 Electric F8D030 Fighting C03028 Fire F08030 Flying A890F0 Ghost 705898 Grass 78C850 Ground E0C068 Ice 98D8D8 Normal A8A878 Poison A040A0 Psychic F85888 Rock B8A038 Steel B8B8D0 Water 6890F0 ??? 68A090 Blue 1111FF Colo B6CAE4 Crystal 4FD9FF Diamond AAAAFF Emerald 00A000 FireRed FF7327 Gold DAA520 Green 11BB11 L.Green 00DD00 Pearl FFAAAA Platinum 999999 Red FF1111 Ruby A00000 Sapphire 0000A0 Silver C0C0C0 XD 604E82 Yellow FFD733 Beauty 6890F0 Cute F85888 Cool F08030 Smart 78C850 Tough F8D030 Light Bug CEDE48 Dark A2958D Dragon 9F77FF Electric FCEEB6 Fighting E5524A Fire F9D2B6 Flying CEBFFB Ghost A18DC4 Grass ACEA8C Ground F8DD92 Ice BDF3F3 Normal E0E0CF Poison D878D8 Psychic F99CB8 Rock E6DDB9 Steel E6E6EE Water 9BB8FE ??? CADDD8 Blue 7777FF Colo DDE6F1 Crystal B2EEFF Diamond CCCCFF Emerald 2ED42E FireRed FF9359 Gold FFCB49 Green 28E228 L.Green 32FA32 Pearl FFCCCC Platinum BBBBBB Red FF7777 Ruby D42E2E Sapphire 2E2ED4 Silver E3E3E3 XD 8674A8 Yellow FEEF46 Beauty 9DB7F5 Cute FA92B2 Cool F5AC78 Smart A7DB8D Tough FAE078

Hope that helps. —darklordtrom 23:27, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for that. I'm just curious... How were the colors for Colosseum and XD chosen? Also, what's the verdict on the SoulSilver/White color issue? —Tyeforce 23:40, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Generation V: Inverted Pairings

Generation V is the first time that the pairings between version color and version mascot are inverted. (I.E. Reshiram, the White Dragon, is the version mascot of Pokémon Black while Zekrom, the Black Dragon, is the version mascot of Pokémon White.) --Arima 03:01, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Font Colors

I haven't figured out how to but can someone change the font color for Red, Blue, Ruby and Sapphire in the box? They are either incredibly hard to see or you can't see them at all. --HoennMaster 19:36, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

SoulSilver and White

It doesn't look like this was ever concluded, but I agree that having SoulSilver a lighter color than White is odd. Ikarishipper900 15:07, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Version Concepts

This seems like as good a place as any to ask. Anyway, I was wondering if there's a spot on the Wiki that talks about the 'theme' of a generation. The Generation V page has a section on how Black and White is an exploration of polarity. Here's the relevant section from the March Nintendo Power: "We choose the titles to express the themes of each game. Like, diamonds are the hardest substance in the world, so that fit the theme of "ultimateness" in Pokemon Diamond and Pearl. This time we're pursuing a theme of "polarity," things that are defined by their opposition to each other. Take, for example, angles and demons, or light and shadow-if one didn't exist, the other would lose all meaning. "White" is a blank slate with potential to become anything, while "black" is complete and unchanging. So our intention actually wasn't to return to the basics, but to evoke that particular theme." What I'm wondering is, is there a place for this sort of thing on the main version pages. A line that says "Diamond and Pearl are named for being 'Ultimate', like how BW is named for 'Polarity'. Could this be included anywhere?--Purimpopoie 00:43, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

I think that kind of thing would go best in the "Discussion of Generation X" section of each generation page. However, the version naming origin should also be on the pages of the game versions themselves, maybe in the trivia sections of those pages. --SnorlaxMonster 13:46, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Move

Is the discussion to move this page still ongoing or is it no longer being considered? - poikins 07:45, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

I dont think it ever got past suggestion. I'm all for it (since I was the one that suggested it). --SnorlaxMonster 11:14, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

I think it should move as well. - poikins 23:17, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

I also agree with the move. A proper disscussion should at least take place. --Pokemaster97 23:27, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

I also agree that the page should be moved. ZMT123 21:47, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

I also think it should be moved. Version sounds like it should be about the differences between versions or what a version is, but Main series fits this article much better.--Darth Zekrom 22:07, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

So, are we moving this or what? ZMT123 04:55, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

The move will take a bit of editing in the article for it to make sense as titled "Main series", so if no one else wants to, I can start working on it. - poikins 19:02, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

A "version" is a game. It is a singular game entity. The "main series" is the entire series of games that headlines a generation, as well as their complimenting same-generation additions (ie: remakes). This article seems to walk the line between the two, as if it has an identity crisis at times. -- MAGNEDETH 04:35, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

I agree, this article needs a rewrite. Something else I believe that should happen is the creation of a side series page, in line with the decision we made sometime last year IIRC, where side series is defined as Stadium, Colosseum, XD, Box, Ranch, and PBR, and is distinct from spin-off games as well as the main series. --SnorlaxMonster 12:51, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Yellow and Pikachu

There has been an edit war on the Japanese games section. I believe it should remain Pikachu, while others thing it should stay Yellow. Maybe we need an admin in on this to decide what to keep. Iml908 (talk) 00:53, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Title screens

Would it be a good idea to put all the title screens on this page? --Abcboy (talk) 01:55, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Here's my idea:

	Paired versions		Third (or more) version(s)
Generation I	Japan
	International
Generation II
Generation III
Generation IV
Generation V

I know, it's stupidly gigantic, the pictures are too big, bla bla bla... but still, give me your opinion! --Abcboy (talk) 13:55, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

It looks nice though there's just too much stuff going on in this table, most of the Japanese title screens are/will most likely be shown on the Generation pages. But I'm supporting this idea. Արիանո 14:14, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

How about this:

	Paired versions		Third (or more) version(s)
Generation I	Japan
	International
Generation II
Generation III
Generation IV
Generation V

I removed the Japanese ones, and to compensate, I made the English ones bigger. --Abcboy (talk) 14:25, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Looks better but the size is a problem. It could be hidden (or something similar to compensate) like the trainer list tables on trainer class pages so it wouldn't dominate the whole page. Արիանո 14:33, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

This is a cool idea. For the English B2W2 Title Screens, shouldn't it have the word Pokémon in it though? Not sure why they aren't in the above images. Torpoleon (talk) 14:41, 5 November 2012 (UTC)