Talk:Super Smash Bros. Brawl/Archive 2

This is a talk page archive. It contains old discussions of topics relating to the article. Please do not add or remove any content from it.

Magikarp

My cousin wanted to show this.

It proves only the Magikarp is in the game he could be playable. Cerberus 22:32, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Uh, wtf would people want to play as Magikarp? Tina ^δ♫ 22:34, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Yeah! Lets see it's attacks! Slash! Tackle! And Flail! woo hooPokemaniac102 22:43, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

1 I was making a point 2 Joke charterer like Mr G&W 3 Magikaprs final smash Gyarados. Cerberus

If it's from Subspace Emissary, it's probably a very weak enemy...--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 01:55, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Like Goomba? Cerberus

Yea. MERRY CHRISTMAS 14:29, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

thats funny Cerberus

It's not Magikarp - it has tentacles for one thing. That creature is probably just another member of the Primid. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 16:44, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

But it is a fish. When I rewatched the video, it's head seemed messed up. It looked purple.^Poke_maniac¹⁰² 16:46, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it is a fish. That particular level is underwater so seeing a fish there isn't unusual. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 16:48, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

So now we are sure that it is not Magikarp. Okay! End of story.^Poke_maniac¹⁰² 16:50, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Not Magikarp. Cerberus

THOSE AREN'T TENTACLES!!! Magikarp has whiskers! And how the heck is that PURPLE!!!??? YinYang

1195^TALK 01:01, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Um, are you freaking paying attention? We're saying it's NOT Magikarp because it has a purple/blue head.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 05:39, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

It's not a Carp Cerberus

What the hell? "It has a purple/blue head"?? It's red! The only blue thing in that pic is the background! Aren't you seeing the red thing in the middle of the pic? うずまきハルカ 15:28, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

I say we wate untill you have a better pick. Cerberus

Look at it in the actual the video on the dojo. That is not a Magikarp! --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 20:32, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Look here, if you don't pause, IT IS A MAGIKARP! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Cn3rt0UYPw&feature=related--Quick Man 00:31, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

That movie is AWESOME!--DarthCookieMonster 03:19, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

But that fish still isn't a Magikarp. It. Is. A. Primid. The sooner we see its trophy the better. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 18:49, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Yea, it's sadly not Magikarp. Look here, around the 13 second mark. --Theryguy512 14:00, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Pic

I found this pic online, can you really play as Meowth?

i don't think so Cerberus 02:08, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

That pic is a fake. I check on the SSBB website everyday and they didn't even mention half of these characters. Meowth is a Poké Ball Pokémon and Waluigi is an assist trophy so they can't possibly characters. --'ケンジ'ガール 02:57, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Many Thanks --DarthCookieMonster 02:58, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

How is that guy under Link? Cerberus

that pic is 100% fake because it has Waluigi in it and he was announced as a support guy MAGNEDETHTARIDNEDOPT 05:56, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Also on IGN, the selection page was completely white.PokeManiac10205:57, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

That doesn't even look like the character select screen. It is a fake, and an old one at that. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 20:34, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Of course the big piece of evidence that shows how old and fake this is is the lack of Ike/Pokémon Trainer/Lucas/Dedede. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 00:51, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Also Sanke, Mii and Ike. Cerberus

Snake is in there, I did mention Ike and nothing to do with the Mii has been confirmed thus far. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 03:35, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Probally I'm wrong or getting mad, but, is that Batman next to Snake? うずまきハルカ 03:43, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

By golly, you got it! Yea, what's that about??? --Theryguy512 03:47, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Lol, I'm NOT getting mad?? That's Batman??? O.O うずまきハルカ 03:49, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

No, it's Black Shadow feom F-Zero. Cerberus

Oh, well it sure does look like Batman! --Theryguy512 03:50, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

the rest of him don't pluse he is a bad guy. Who is under Link? Cerberus

It's supposed to be Zero Suit Samus. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 03:57, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Cerberus

It's NOT zero suit Samus, you Idiot, It's DARK Samus!--Quick Man 13:42, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

It's the Blob --DarthCookieMonster 13:47, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

You could have told him nicely. Glinn 13:47, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

I got it it's Chaos. Cerberus☆18:40, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Hey, it's not as if it is a very clear picture. It's some form of Samus and blue. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 18:43, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

I think it says 0 Samus.PokeManiac102 18:45, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

It says "D. Samus." Anyway, why are we getting into arguments over a fake image anyway?--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 19:08, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Magikarp and another one!

The most recent Video of Subspace has somthing very supspicious: http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/modea/modea10.html. I think Magikarp is an enemy! Rayquaza is definitly as boss as seen here: http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/modea/modea11.html -quick Man P.S Can someone teach me to make a sig?

I saw Magikarp too!

* Evey ^☆ 03:25, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

So did I, though I think that it's just a PokéBall Pokémon and can just be hit away, like Chansey in Melee. But let's not add speculation! --Theryguy512 14:10, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

This is already covered. Rayquaza's boss status is mentioned on the relevent pages and that creature is not a Magikarp. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 20:35, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Dude, that totally is Magikarp! --Theryguy512 22:16, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

A Magicarp If I eva did see one. Cerberus

Look at it in the actual video on the dojo. There is no way that that fish is supposed to be Magikarp. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 22:30, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Questions

The Trainer and Pokemon will change colors (I saw a officail Picture of a Brendan looking Red with a green bulb Ivysaur).-Quick Man

Not really much of a question, but yes, Red will change colors as will his Pokémon. We know two colors so far. TTEchidna^G_SDS! 06:54, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Here is a picture of the Pokémon Trainer looking like Brendan: --Theryguy512 14:10, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

It's Red, with different colors. Sure his outfit LOOKS like Emerald Brendan. But it isn't. TTEchidna^G_SDS! 23:17, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Does this mean he'll also look like Gold and Lucas? YinYang

1195^TALK 05:11, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Probably, although I bet it's limited to pallet swaps.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 06:24, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Stickers

Hey, here's a novelty: let's have a discussion about the actual article.

I've been thinking about stickers and am wondering how we are going to implement the information on it here. Take a look at the Spectator Mode coverage on the official site: Not only does it promise to "be passing out stickers left and right" but the likes of Silver the Hedgehog managed to be a sticker in the game. This suggests that we are likely to see a lot of stickers from the Pokémon universe. So is it going to fill up the page as a big list? And if we continue to list every little detail on the template, then it is going to be massive!

We've got a bit of time to go before the release but it is worth thinking about --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 20:01, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

I say gloss over the stickers, since there could be 500+ stickers, one for every Pokémon. Angerman 09:17, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

There's no guarantee of that, though. And I think they'd include a few humans and items as well as Pokémon. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 20:35, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

If there's any substantial number of stickers, put the description on the Pokémon species page. If there's not too many, perhaps a list of trophies and a list of stickers that feature Pokémon things should be made. TTEchidna^G_SDS! 22:15, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

A Celebi sticker was revealed today. I uploaded a pic of it. --Theryguy512 12:01, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Do we really need that picture? More importantly, this update just threw everything we thought we knew about stickers on its head. We have to cover them now. At least I fixed the template. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 15:52, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Deoxys

Does anybody know what form Deoxys will be? --DarthCookieMonster 01:31, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Attack was revealled so far.PokeManiac102 01:32, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

It will probably just be the attack form. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 02:04, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

It would be cool if defense form Deoxys would just be a wall, invincible to attacks. --DarthCookieMonster 02:09, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

That would be pointless since all Poké Ball Pokémon are immune to attacks anyway and are supposed to have some effect on the battle. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 02:13, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

All 4 would be cool Cerberus

But we already have one and there's nearly 500 of the things eager for some representation. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 02:13, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

This is true. Like Tarous Cerberus

Jan 12. Edit on Dojo

Toady, they released some pics of a Challenger mode thing. If you look carefully, you can see a shilouette of a Latios/Latias trophy. You can also see that there is going to be a Pink Ball Repulsion challenge to unlock such trophy. Do you think that this challenge is related to Pokémon? And where should we put this info????--Theryguy512 12:06, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Its Metaknights ship the Halberd, I mean if you think about it they do sort of have the same shape in a way. But yeah thats Metaknights ship since its featured in the event match. Pokémon Master

In addition, in Kirby of the Stars, Dedede and Escargon often call Kirby a "Pink Ball" as a derogatory name. Since he looks like a pink ball with feet.--PikamasterADV 12:23, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

We are getting a topic here people. It is that trophy is a Pokémon I don't think it's noticeable to me are we going to do every time there is a Pigey in the background. Cerberus 12:48, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

All the Poké Ball Pokémon will get trophies anyway. And the "Pink Ball" event is described here. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 17:43, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Okay, the mission your talking about is in here: http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/various/various16.html Your meta knight fighting kirby. Also, that is most likly a tropy of the Halbred--Quick Man 14:00, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Thats what I said before its an event match for Kirby's universe so Pokémon won't be a part of it ok? That trophy is the Halberd like I stated before. Pokémon Master

Legendary questions

So Shaymin and Darkrai (w00t) have been confirmed to appear in Brawl. Friggin' sweet, but Shaymin hasn't even been officially introduced to the Japanese D/P fan base yet (unless you count Brawl itself), and neither have been introduced to English-speaking countries. Will this mean that Shaymin events all around the world and Darkrai events for English players be held to help kill all confusion as to who these Pokémon are, or will they be cut from the finalized English versions?

As for Latios and Latias, just the other day the article said that the two are released from the same Poké Ball, fly to opposite ends of the stage, and meet in the middle. But now, it says all that and that only Latios has been confirmed. Clearly, Latias has been confirmed if we know so much about what happens when the Poké Ball is thrown, has she not? // SzayelAporroGranz 16:22, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Listen I have actually seen the video with Latios in it and only Latios comes out of the Poké Ball alright?

Look Latios Appears at 0.50 okay? - unsigned comment from Big Johnno (talk • contribs)

That is one video. The demo was released to multiple game journalists who report seeing both. Gimpyfish played it constantly at E For All and in his impressions he reports seeing both. Until we get more solid information, the evidence is at both being featured in the game. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 14:37, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

To answer the first question, no they aren't suddenly going to give away the unobtainables. Shaymin will be revealed in the next Coro Coro and then be given away in Japan when the movie comes out. Darkrai will soon be revealed on Pokemon.com with the revelation of the movie and MD sequel. The big question is what the English translation will do with Shaymin and NoA might not even have that answer yet.

But when was Darkrai confirmed? It seems odd that it wouldn't have been mentioned when we knew of Shaymin immediately. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 14:45, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

I think I heard, but I forgot the name, that Darkrai was revealed at the same place Garchomp was revealed.PokeManiac102 16:01, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Jumpfesta? That's not even what it says in the article. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 18:27, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

No nevermind. Not Jumpfesta. The thing had a capital E in it.PokeManiac102 18:37, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

E for All is probably what you're thinking of (it's the only event with a capital E in it that Brawl appeared at). // SzayelAporroGranz 18:44, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Yea that's it.PokeManiac102 18:46, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Lucario (And Ness) Confirmed for Brawl

Copied and Pasted straight from GameFAQs.

"(A video from Offical Nintendo Wii Website (Japanese)

Check around 4:20 in the lower-right-hand corner that shows who you can use the stickers on. Lucario's and Ness's heads appear in separate images:

Lucario:

(Check the corner)

Ness:

(Check the corner)

Enjoy."

Make sure you watch the video on the website, not the video on YouTube and such.

Epic.--PikamasterADV 04:17, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Damn my ignorance! The links to the pictures are there, you just have to open the edit function to see them.

Well spotted, but they might also be leading to another section of stickers, plus people have been saying they saw Lucario come out of a Poké Ball.

But in the Sticker Power Up update on the DOJO, it shows Kirby, Meta-Knight, and Dedede when the Cook Kirby sticker is highlighted. I believe this is real. That would be three pictures following the pattern.

We'll see. TTEchidna^G_SDS! 04:55, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Be patient.^PokeManiac₁₀₂ 04:59, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

I remembered something! In the video, it shows the Klaptrap Sticker, but when the hand hovers over it, it shows no one. If the above "leading to a selection of stickers" hypothesis is correct, where are Donkey Kong and Diddy on the bar next to the discription for the Klaptrap sticker?--PikamasterADV 05:08, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

EVERYONE! JUST BE PATIENT! PLEASE DO NOT ADD LUCARIO OR JIGGLYPUFF TO THE PAGE UNTILL SOMETHING IS CONFIRMED ON THE DOJO! AT THE MOMENT ITS NOTHING BUT RUMOR AND SPECULATION OKAY?

Well, I admit I went and added the info the Jigglypuff and Lucario and those haven't been edited back yet. I'm not trying to create an Edit War; I'm not "readding" the information to the Brawl Page. Coincidentally, I s'pose this means that Mewtwo isn't in Brawl, similar to what Serebii was hinting at..--PikamasterADV 05:17, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Mewtwo was terrible, i would love to see him get replaced with Lucario. but does Lucario have enough popularity to become a playable character? MAGNEDETH 05:20, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Well on img there was a debate going on about who should be in brawl? Mewtwo or Lucario, despite Mewtwo having a bigger fan base, most have agreed, Lucario would be better in close combat. But still please don't add anything!

UNCONFIRMED Zeta...PokeManiac102 05:26, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Just an update: theres now a YouTube Version of the video that the leak came from. Apparently, someone learned of the leak, and the video on Wii.com was changed.--PikamasterADV 05:42, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Oy... No one knows what i'm talking about nowadays.PokeManiac102 05:44, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Prove that Jigglypuff is in the game... AND I WANT VISUAL EVIDENCE...PokeManiac102 05:46, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

No, I know what you mean. There could be some contrived way that Lucario isn't going to be playable, and that the DOJO or other, 100% infalliable confirmation should be recieved. I was just making sure the information was still listed on this page, with reliable videos. I'm sorry if I'm offending anyone. And Pokemaniac, if you look at the YouTube Vid or the pictures that have been put on Bulbanews, you can see Jigglypuff next to Lucario. --PikamasterADV 05:48, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Wait........Why are we fighting? And are we sure that those images at the bottom are players?PokeManiac102 05:53, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

I didn't think we were fighting. I'd call it a 99% true thing. Also in the (non-edited) Video, it shows that two Sonic Stickers and only Sonic listed where the character Icons are. Not to mention the entire Ness thing.--PikamasterADV 05:56, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

K... End of Discussion! But Zeta or any other admin will probably not UNprotect the article.PokeManiac102 05:58, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

And it has been protected without a time limit.PokeManiac102 05:59, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

We'll see. The article should be protected until the release date, no longer. I changed it so we don't forget to do so manually. TTEchidna^G_SDS! 08:41, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Mind if I just say, Whoopie! Cerberus 10:28, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

I agree with you there Cerberus, this is one of the best news in ages! YIPEE KI YAY!Pokémon Master 19:48, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

D*** YOU, LUCARIO, I WILL NOT ACCEPT MEWTWO BEING CUT! I am sorry for the Caps abuse but I am a huge mewtwo player in melee, he's my best and favoritwe charecter, you see, some pepole DO like mewtwo better than lucario.--Quick Man 12:37, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

wait a minute, light bulb! Maybe that certain game didn't unlock mewtwo and/or pichu and/or any other playable pokemon!--Quick Man 12:37, 22 January 2008 (UTC)