should we get sprites for the decoy pokemon?11:44, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
Yeah! We need sprites of Substitute from all Generations from back and front. Is it possible? --Maxim 12:05, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
Is it? I can't even find sprites of the Substitute from Diamond/Pearl... It'd be cool if you could do it up with the template for the Pokémon Sprites. --Phred 06:31, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
- It should be in the games' data... the question is... hrm. TTEchidna 04:40, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
The information in this article is either wrong or from the first generation of Pokémon. Substitute, for instance, WILL protect against sleep moves such as Hypnosis, and a Pokémon using Explosion against a substitute WILL faint. This article needs a full revamp. --Kefkafreak 22:05, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
This doesn't apply to the Substitute page itself, but to quite a number of Pokémon pages that list Substitute as an egg move. For example, see Furret (Pokémon)#By breeding. While Substitute can be bred, in Generation IV, this is simply because it is a TM. In Generation III, it was an egg move, and I suspect it has been carried over in many of the breeding move lists for Pokémon. I don't think it belongs in the primary 'by breeding' for Pokémon, though. In the Generation III breeding moves for sure, but not the Generation IV ones. Are there any reasons to keep Substitute in the breeding move lists on main Pokémon pages? — Laoris (Blah) 16:45, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
- Because it's programmed that way into the game coding. Just because a move can be taught through a TM doesn't mean it can't be programmed into a breeding list. Another example is Remoraid and Thunder Wave, where Thunder Wave is still on Remoraid's breeding list despite Thunder Wave becoming TM73 in Generation IV and Remoraid being compatible with said TM. If the game code says it, we list it. --Shiningpikablu252 19:08, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
Two moves named 'Substitute' in Japanese???
- If you'll notice the kanji, they're spelled different. It just translates the same. TTEchidna 00:42, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
- Beldum can't. That's all I noticed.