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shiny odds increased?

I got Pokémon X on October 12, launch date. Within an hour of playing it, I found a shiny Psyduck. Two days later, I found a shiny Woobat. So either I'm REALLY lucky, or the chances of finding a shiny Pokémon increased for Generation Six. What do you think? ShinyMew9001 (talk) 13:08, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Wow, how did you do that a year before the game came out?!

Seriously, though, I've been hearing this quite a bit lately from all over the place. Also, apparently Monochrome Pokémon are appearing at the previous Shiny rate. Pokérun MAY also be more common, but that one's a little harder to pinpoint. Unfortunately, the 3DS games can't be data mined like previous gens, so it might be a while before we have any solid numbers. --KingStarscream (talk) 19:30, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

I've heard that the monochrome Pokémon are simply a texture error, which seems likely to me. We also can't say anything about increased shiny rate without hard facts. Maybe that many fans think shinies are more common in Gen VI, but that doesn't seem terribly notable. --Wynd Fox 22:30, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

I've heard that the shiny encounter rate is more generous in X and Y. Kikaypikachu (talk) 10:07, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

I understand that there's no easy way to prove that the Shiny odds have increased, but can I point out one more thing? One time I (almost) traded with someone who had a teal Frogadier and a black Furfrou. I do believe that they are Shiny Pokémon, so that means that the person is either super lucky, a hacker, or the Shiny odds have increased. Once again, there's really no way to prove this without a confirmation from Nintendo, but I just wanted to throw that out.

Also, Pokérus may be more common now. One of my friends got Pokérus within one week of playing X, while I've been playing Black for over two years now and I haven't caught it. So either-- well, you know what I'm going to say. And once again this is all speculation, which really makes me wonder why I'm even pointing this out.

Also, what's this talk about Monochrome Pokémon? Unless you're referring to Generation One, I have no idea what you're talking about. ShinyMew9001 (talk) 13:48, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Some rumour about a new type of Pokémon similar to Shiny Pokémon, with the coloroation being black and white. I've heard about it and also heard it's some texture error, either that or it's just a hoax. ☼ BlazingFist ☼ 13:59, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

I don't think Pokérus is more common. Shinies pretty clearly are though (and can be observed easily from empirical testing, and has been). A single person finding Pokérus while their friend does not is not a good sample size; with that data, Pokérus could easily be less common.

As for monochrome Pokémon, I'm calling them a hoax. If they exist, I challenge anybody that has one to record a battle video featuring one and share the code; if they are an intended mechanic, in a battle video they will appear monochrome for everyone. --SnorlaxMonster 14:05, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

If there really were monochrome Pokémon they would probably have been revealed earlier. Kikaypikachu (talk) 14:30, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Monochrome Pokémon are caused by a texture error, and are not an intended mechanic. --The Truth aka Relicant 14:53, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Ah, that makes sense. I would also like to point out one more thing: it may be impossible to find a shiny Xerneas, Yveltal, and Zygarde. Once again, this is all speculation, and I bet the majority of admins would have my head for this, but I've looked all over for an encounter with a shiny Xerneas, Yveltal, or Zygarde, and I've found nothing. It may be that people haven't had time or motivation to shiny hunt them, but I'm sure that there would at least be a screenshot of a shiny legendary by now. I don't want to drag this topic out for too long, but do you have any thoughts on the matter? Also, I'm sorry, admins. ShinyMew9001 (talk) 22:31, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

It's plausible that Xerneas and Yveltal have coding in place that prevents them from being shiny, since last Gen's mascots Reshi and Zek have similar measures in place. Either that or like you suggested people have had no luck/time finding them.--The Truth aka Relicant 23:09, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

That's very possible. Kikaypikachu (talk) 23:12, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Once again, there's really no way to be sure about this without a confirmation from Game Freak, I'm just pointing this out. ShinyMew9001 (talk) 00:17, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

GF's never gonna tell us 'bout that sort of thing. We need hackers for that--BigBadBatter (talk) 06:18, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Research has been done about this: http://nuggetbridge.com/forums/topic/2793-instacheck-hotspot-a-fast-pok%C3%A9mon-checker-for-xy/ This Shiny Value is between 0 and 4095. 'Shiny Value' is the equivalent of TID and SID XORed and right shifted 4 places. It used to be shifted 3 places (2^3 is 8 which is why the value has to be less than 8 because the last 3 bits don't count), however no it's shifted 4 places, meaning the last 4 bits don't count. So going by the calcs in the article the answer can now be less and 16 for it to be shiny. Therefore the range is doubled and the chance of getting a shiny is doubled. I'm about to edit the article to mention this change. Lucky V4.0 (talk) 18:32, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Shiny parents

This is unrelated but I was curious if hatching a shiny Pokemon is more likely if one of the parents is shiny. Mariofan99 (talk) 19:49, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

This is only the case in Generation II, where Shininess is the result of IVs. --SnorlaxMonster 00:07, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Horde Battle and Friend Safari not mentioned

How come there is no mention of Horde battles increasing the chance of finding a Shiny? I am not the best at math, but I know it gives you a 5x better chance then the traditional 1-on-1 encounter. Again, not the best at math, but if I did it right it looks like each Pokémon in a horde has a 1/4096, which in terns means there is a 1/819.2 chance of encountering a horde with a shiny Pokémon if I am correct?

Also, I'm pretty sure there is a higher chance of finding Shiny Pokémon in the Friend Safari but there is no mention of this either. The first time I entered a friend's Flying type Safari I encountered a Shiny Hawlucha. If I am not mistaken, I think the reason there is a increase is because there are only 2-3 Pokémon available in the Friend Safari at all times, thus your chances of encountering a shiny, at least of those 2-3 increases. This might be a superficial increase though. Yamitora1 (talk) 19:40, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Horde Encounters do not increase the shiny rate. Five Pokémon means that you're five times more likely to have any of the members of the horde be Shiny, yes, but the random generator still creates each individual Pokémon with the same rate as normal. As for the Friend Safari, I haven't seen anybody say anything about an increased Shiny rate there except people idly speculating based on anecdotal evidence like you're doing right now. We can't report it as true until either (A) we hack the game and check the data ourselves or (B) a high-quality (i.e. sample size of several thousand, at least) statistical analysis is performed. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 20:38, 28 January 2014 (UTC)