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Beta route? I call bullcrap. Pix or it goes. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#DAA520">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">chidna</span>]]''' 09:01, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
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== One infobox ==
:If [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt90l7-qxTE this] is the source used, then it's a cruddily done hack to alienate people. If it were an actual route, then the trees would have at least lined up! <span style="border: 1px dashed #0088FF;">[[User:Gywall|<span style="color:#FF8800;">'''Gyw</span><span style="color:#FFAE00;">all'''</span>]]</span> <span style="border: 1px dashed #00CFFF;"><small>[[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]</small></span> 10:22, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
 
::Hackrom obviously. In real FR/LG there are no weather effect. It's a really n00bish hack. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 11:37, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
 
   
I opened a rom of FireRed and found a move called Conversion3. Maybe it's a beta move? Could someone check their ROM to make sure mine wasn't already hacked. I tried a few different ROMs and they all have it. [[User:Pokemon1234567890|Pokemon1234567890]] 01:17, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
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Wouldn't it be better if we had both pictures in the same infobox (somehow). The page looks kinda messy. [[User:Takharii|<span style="color:#B69E00;"><sc>Takharii</sc></span>]] '''~''' [[User talk:Takharii|<span style="color:#929292;"><sc>Talk!</sc></span>]] 23:41, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
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:I can merge them into one file, but I dunno if I should... [[User:CuboneKing|<font color="Red">Cu</font>]][[User talk:CuboneKing|<font color="Tan">bo</font>]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|<font color="Green color light">ne</font>]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|<font color="Black">King</font>]] 23:43, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
   
== Anti-piracy message? ==
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== Does anybody have the locations of these islands? ==
   
[http://tcrf.net/Talk:Pokémon_FireRed_and_LeafGreen This discussion] does make the message look really suspicious. I personally have had my doubts about it in the past and these people have dug through the games' code and found nothing that proves its existence. [[User:Pokemon lover|<b><span style="color:blue">Sato</span></b>]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|<b><span style="color:pink">Mew</span></b>]] 18:16, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
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I could plug in a cheat to warp there and get more information {{unsigned|Shadowater}}
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:Yeah, that'd be nice. Rip png screenshots of their map locations if you can. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 06:15, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
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::According to the game's you-know-what, Sevii Isle 6-9 are between Three Isle Port and Resort Gorgeous. 22-24 are between the Tanoby Ruins and Navel Rock. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:50, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
   
== Beta images ==
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==Unincluded Sevii Isles==
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Could we change this page so it is all of the unincluded Sevii Isles, not just 8 and 9 (with the appropriate move of course)? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 11:43, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
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:Would "Beta Sevii Isles" or "Inaccessible Sevii Isles" make a better title? &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 09:51, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
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::Yeah, my title was just what I could think of. I think "Beta Sevii Islands" would be better. Perhaps even "Other Sevii Islands". --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 02:22, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
   
The images on the bottom for weather could be viewed via Firefox or whatever browsers that can view anipngs, but on those that cannot, they look odd... can someone fix those images? Thanks. [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#FF1111"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#DAA520"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 18:11, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
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== Extra routes ==
:I know that it sucks but uploading GIFs is discouraged so I uploaded APNGs. Perhaps I could replace them with new ones where the final warping scene does not show up but the uploading rules are already set. [[User:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:blue">Sato</span></b>]][[User talk:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:pink">Mew</span></b>]] 12:53, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
 
   
== Cloudy ==
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It seems obvious to me that "Sevii Isle 6," "Sevii Isle 7," &c. are unused routes in the Sevii Islands route system. Just look at the [[List of locations by index number (GBA)|index numbers]]: if Kindle Road is route 1, then our mysterious locations correspond to routes 6–9 and 22–24. (This also gives us a definitive ordering and numbering for the Sevii Islands routes.) But why does all the discussion treat them like they're additional islands? —[[User:Typhlosion|Typhlosion]] 02:30, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
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:Because the names ingame are 'Sevii Isle 8' and 'Sevii Isle 9'. They are unused islands, not routes. [[Kindle Road]] is clearly not an island, while these are. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 08:40, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
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::It actually makes sense to me that they are beta names for the routes. At some point the developers must have decided that they wanted to give them names rather than potentially confuse people with two Route 1s in the same game. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 23:38, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
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::So at some point there going to be 24 Sevii Islands? If these are "clearly islands," that's exactly what it means. But they aren't clearly islands: the map data for 'Sevii Isle 8' and 'Sevii Isle 9' are prototypical water routes, not new islands. Furthermore, the location index numbers plop these right in the middle of the Sevii Island routes; the cities all come earlier. I don't believe these location indices are evidence that there were going to be ''more'' Sevii Islands, but that the existing islands were going to be ''larger'', incorporating more routes until the Sevii Islands were scaled back at some point in production. —[[User:Typhlosion|Typhlosion]] 19:14, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
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::They are clearly routes as they are programmed as such, given AdvanceMap's output of their map data. I updated the article accordingly as well as the respective information on the article about the development of FireRed/LeafGreen. [[User:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:blue">Sato</span></b>]][[User talk:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:pink">Mew</span></b>]] 23:07, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
   
The "cloudy" weather effect is used in Viridian Forest, I'm not sure whether or not to remove it from the table or just change the line next to the image. Can someone edit this? --[[User:Nepse|Nepse]] 11:56, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
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==Glitch?==
:Done. Thanks for pointing it out. [[User:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:blue">Sato</span></b>]][[User talk:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:pink">Mew</span></b>]] 11:45, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
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Is there a reason this is listed under glitches? It doesn't seem like a glitch to me. [[User:Funktastic~!|It&#39;s Funktastic~!]] 02:36, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
 
== "Unused" maps ==
 
 
Only those maps that are alternate versions of the Hoenn ones are the unused maps. The others that are "duplicates" (for example the Seafoam Islands map or Trainer Tower floors) are not unused, just hidden. The purpose isn't unknown either. Those are the maps taken as reference by the game after some flags are set, and copies the reference map to another offset. Taking as example the Seafoam Islands map, after the player has thrown the rocks through the corresponding holes, the game copies the map listed as "unused" in the article to where the original map is and replaces it, so you get the impression that the water current has been blocked. '''[[User:Hfc2x|<span style="color:#008800">h</span><span style="color:#000000">fc</span>]][[User talk:Hfc2x|<span style="color:#000000">2</span><span style="color:#008800">X</span>]]''' 07:51, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Sevii Isles ==
 
 
The Sevii Isles '''are ''not''''' islands and wouldn't be the alternate name of the archipelago. They're programmed in as routes. At least that's the output in AdvanceMap. I'm going to change the article accordingly. [[User:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:blue">Sato</span></b>]][[User talk:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:pink">Mew</span></b>]] 20:20, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
 

Revision as of 23:07, 7 November 2012

One infobox

Wouldn't it be better if we had both pictures in the same infobox (somehow). The page looks kinda messy. Takharii ~ Talk! 23:41, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

I can merge them into one file, but I dunno if I should... CuboneKing 23:43, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Does anybody have the locations of these islands?

I could plug in a cheat to warp there and get more information - unsigned comment from Shadowater (talkcontribs)

Yeah, that'd be nice. Rip png screenshots of their map locations if you can. —darklordtrom 06:15, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
According to the game's you-know-what, Sevii Isle 6-9 are between Three Isle Port and Resort Gorgeous. 22-24 are between the Tanoby Ruins and Navel Rock. TTEchidna 22:50, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Unincluded Sevii Isles

Could we change this page so it is all of the unincluded Sevii Isles, not just 8 and 9 (with the appropriate move of course)? --SnorlaxMonster 11:43, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Would "Beta Sevii Isles" or "Inaccessible Sevii Isles" make a better title? —darklordtrom 09:51, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, my title was just what I could think of. I think "Beta Sevii Islands" would be better. Perhaps even "Other Sevii Islands". --SnorlaxMonster 02:22, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Extra routes

It seems obvious to me that "Sevii Isle 6," "Sevii Isle 7," &c. are unused routes in the Sevii Islands route system. Just look at the index numbers: if Kindle Road is route 1, then our mysterious locations correspond to routes 6–9 and 22–24. (This also gives us a definitive ordering and numbering for the Sevii Islands routes.) But why does all the discussion treat them like they're additional islands? —Typhlosion 02:30, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Because the names ingame are 'Sevii Isle 8' and 'Sevii Isle 9'. They are unused islands, not routes. Kindle Road is clearly not an island, while these are. --SnorlaxMonster 08:40, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
It actually makes sense to me that they are beta names for the routes. At some point the developers must have decided that they wanted to give them names rather than potentially confuse people with two Route 1s in the same game. —darklordtrom 23:38, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
So at some point there going to be 24 Sevii Islands? If these are "clearly islands," that's exactly what it means. But they aren't clearly islands: the map data for 'Sevii Isle 8' and 'Sevii Isle 9' are prototypical water routes, not new islands. Furthermore, the location index numbers plop these right in the middle of the Sevii Island routes; the cities all come earlier. I don't believe these location indices are evidence that there were going to be more Sevii Islands, but that the existing islands were going to be larger, incorporating more routes until the Sevii Islands were scaled back at some point in production. —Typhlosion 19:14, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
They are clearly routes as they are programmed as such, given AdvanceMap's output of their map data. I updated the article accordingly as well as the respective information on the article about the development of FireRed/LeafGreen. SatoMew 23:07, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Glitch?

Is there a reason this is listed under glitches? It doesn't seem like a glitch to me. It's Funktastic~! 02:36, 17 February 2012 (UTC)