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:We literally have no information about them except for the appearances, types, and some of their abilities. We don't have enough info to have their own pages, and even if we did, it's still a Vulpix, it's still a Ninetails...they aren't brand new Pokémon altogether. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 06:31, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
:We literally have no information about them except for the appearances, types, and some of their abilities. We don't have enough info to have their own pages, and even if we did, it's still a Vulpix, it's still a Ninetails...they aren't brand new Pokémon altogether. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 06:31, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
::We have seen Alolan Ninetales use Ice Beam, at least. Sky Shaymin would make for a fair base, what with Air Slash exclusivity there. [[User:Phineas81707|Phineas81707]] ([[User talk:Phineas81707|talk]]) 02:12, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
::We have seen Alolan Ninetales use Ice Beam, at least. Sky Shaymin would make for a fair base, what with Air Slash exclusivity there. [[User:Phineas81707|Phineas81707]] ([[User talk:Phineas81707|talk]]) 02:12, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
:But people give new Pokemon Bulbapedia entries all the time without knowing what their full set list, abilities, evolution levels, etc. are going to be. Bewear alrealdy has a page, so that argument is kind of moot. In the case of Alolan Variants, every time one has been revealed we've gotten typing and even abilities, so we definitely have enough to start building pages for them and then fill them out completely once we know all the details. And yes it is still a Vulpix and Ninetales, but with a completely different appearance, diifferent abilities, I think that if we keep adding variants to the pages of "normal" Pokemon, it's going to start looking REALLY messy. I mean what if two generations down the line there's a ground typed Ninetales, are we seriously going to have all three versions on the same page? Crowded much? {{unsigned|Milotic1209}}
:::But people give new Pokemon Bulbapedia entries all the time without knowing what their full set list, abilities, evolution levels, etc. are going to be. Bewear alrealdy has a page, so that argument is kind of moot. In the case of Alolan Variants, every time one has been revealed we've gotten typing and even abilities, so we definitely have enough to start building pages for them and then fill them out completely once we know all the details. And yes it is still a Vulpix and Ninetales, but with a completely different appearance, diifferent abilities, I think that if we keep adding variants to the pages of "normal" Pokemon, it's going to start looking REALLY messy. I mean what if two generations down the line there's a ground typed Ninetales, are we seriously going to have all three versions on the same page? Crowded much? {{unsigned|Milotic1209}}
::There have already been {{p|Wormadam|Pokémon}} with {{p|Deoxys|different forms}} that had significant differences. They all fit on one page just fine. <small>[[User:Glik|glik]]</small><sup>[[User talk:Glik|glak]]</sup> 16:06, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
::::There have already been {{p|Wormadam|Pokémon}} with {{p|Deoxys|different forms}} that had significant differences. They all fit on one page just fine. <small>[[User:Glik|glik]]</small><sup>[[User talk:Glik|glak]]</sup> 16:06, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
:Fine, whatever. It seems most people are ok with everything being on one page. It seems to me that having regional variants of a Pokemon is a pretty momentous thing, that deserves more of a spotlight, but if no one really cares, then I give up. :P [[User:Milotic1209|Milotic1209]] ([[User talk:Milotic1209|talk]]) 16:12, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
:::::Fine, whatever. It seems most people are ok with everything being on one page. It seems to me that having regional variants of a Pokemon is a pretty momentous thing, that deserves more of a spotlight, but if no one really cares, then I give up. :P [[User:Milotic1209|Milotic1209]] ([[User talk:Milotic1209|talk]]) 16:12, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

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Portuguese

You can add "Variante regional" for Brazilian Portuguese on "In other languages" seciton. Muriloricci (talk) 16:03, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Is "Regional variant" an official term?

Is this an official term? I know Alolan Forme is, but is this as well?Trainer Yusuf (talk) 12:44, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Yes: http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/en-us/pokemon/ glikglak 14:03, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Arbok

Shouldn't Arbok's regional forms be listed here? If I remember correctly, its pattern changes in every region in which it appears. Menace64 (talk) 02:24, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

This is a formal thing. If Arbok is not identified as a "regional variant", it's not one.
Also, regional variants are fundamentally pretty significantly different from the rest of their species; they've adapted. Differing patterns is neither significant nor a real adaptation. Tiddlywinks (talk) 02:29, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

Alolan Variants Should Have Their Own Pages

I don't think it's fair that Alolan variant Pokemon are only side notes on their "normal variant" pages. These Alolan formes are not like Hoopa Unbound or Arial Shaymin. Those Pokemon eventually find ways of returning to their original formes. These Alolan formes are inherent to the Pokemon, they will never change into their "normal" counterpart. They will have different abilities, different move sets, different typings. I think they merit having their own pages. For example keep the regular Ninetales page, and add another one entitled Ninetales (Alola). - unsigned comment from Milotic1209 (talkcontribs)

We literally have no information about them except for the appearances, types, and some of their abilities. We don't have enough info to have their own pages, and even if we did, it's still a Vulpix, it's still a Ninetails...they aren't brand new Pokémon altogether. --HoennMaster 06:31, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
We have seen Alolan Ninetales use Ice Beam, at least. Sky Shaymin would make for a fair base, what with Air Slash exclusivity there. Phineas81707 (talk) 02:12, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
But people give new Pokemon Bulbapedia entries all the time without knowing what their full set list, abilities, evolution levels, etc. are going to be. Bewear alrealdy has a page, so that argument is kind of moot. In the case of Alolan Variants, every time one has been revealed we've gotten typing and even abilities, so we definitely have enough to start building pages for them and then fill them out completely once we know all the details. And yes it is still a Vulpix and Ninetales, but with a completely different appearance, diifferent abilities, I think that if we keep adding variants to the pages of "normal" Pokemon, it's going to start looking REALLY messy. I mean what if two generations down the line there's a ground typed Ninetales, are we seriously going to have all three versions on the same page? Crowded much? - unsigned comment from Milotic1209 (talkcontribs)
There have already been Pokémon with different forms that had significant differences. They all fit on one page just fine. glikglak 16:06, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
Fine, whatever. It seems most people are ok with everything being on one page. It seems to me that having regional variants of a Pokemon is a pretty momentous thing, that deserves more of a spotlight, but if no one really cares, then I give up. :P Milotic1209 (talk) 16:12, 11 August 2016 (UTC)