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== Artwork ==
== Artwork ==


I have uploaded a clearer image of Haribōgu with an invisible background.[[File:ハリボーグ_(Haribōgu)_XY_Artwork_Ken_Sugimori.png ]] May I suggest that this is used instead. Thank You!--[[User:ShinyPatch|ShinyPatch]] ([[User talk:ShinyPatch|talk]]) 15:20, 12 September 2013 (UTC)--[[User:ShinyPatch|ShinyPatch]] ([[User talk:ShinyPatch|talk]]) 15:20, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
I have uploaded a clearer image of Haribōgu with an invisible background.[[a:File:ハリボーグ_(Haribōgu)_XY_Artwork_Ken_Sugimori.png ]] May I suggest that this is used instead. Thank You!--[[User:ShinyPatch|ShinyPatch]] ([[User talk:ShinyPatch|talk]]) 15:20, 12 September 2013 (UTC)--[[User:ShinyPatch|ShinyPatch]] ([[User talk:ShinyPatch|talk]]) 15:20, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
:Thank You Ataro!--[[User:ShinyPatch|ShinyPatch]] ([[User talk:ShinyPatch|talk]]) 15:26, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
:Thank You Ataro!--[[User:ShinyPatch|ShinyPatch]] ([[User talk:ShinyPatch|talk]]) 15:26, 12 September 2013 (UTC)


== Origin ==
== Origin ==


Based off a rodent and a chestnut. Also, the whole line takes inspiration from a solider or knight, which hopefully will become more clear in it's final evolution. [[User:CoolDudeAl|CoolDudeAl]] ([[User talk:CoolDudeAl|talk]]) 01:19, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Based off a rodent and a chestnut. Also, the whole line takes inspiration from a soldier or knight, which hopefully will become more clear in its final evolution. [[User:CoolDudeAl|CoolDudeAl]] ([[User talk:CoolDudeAl|talk]]) 01:19, 13 September 2013 (UTC)


: The ''bōgu'' is Quilladin's Japanese name is also a reference to the French [[https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/bogue bogue]], the hard, green covering of a chestnut still on the tree. Could someone please edit this in? [[User:Arpha|Arpha]] ([[User talk:Arpha|talk]]) 20:10, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
: The ''bōgu'' is Quilladin's Japanese name is also a reference to the French [[https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/bogue bogue]], the hard, green covering of a chestnut still on the tree. Could someone please edit this in? [[User:Arpha|Arpha]] ([[User talk:Arpha|talk]]) 20:10, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
::Is there something I'm missing here, because I'm not sure how you're getting "soldier/knight" from the Chespin line? If anything, I'd mark the line as an Oliver Twist style upbeat-happy-go-lucky ragamuffin. (edit: I just noticed quilladin's species name. ''right.'') Also, I'm pretty sure that the line is based on a hedgehog, which is not a rodent. So, there's that. [[User:Harumei|Harumei]] ([[User talk:Harumei|talk]]) 18:03, 28 September 2013 (UTC)


== Name origin ==
== Name origin ==


Paladin, while the spelling fits, sounds like a very unlikely candidate for the name. I think the "ladin" part comes from the word laden (meaning heavily loaded or weighed down).--[[User:Goukazaru|Gou]] ([[User talk:Goukazaru|talk]]) 01:08, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
Paladin, while the spelling fits, sounds like a very unlikely candidate for the name. I think the "ladin" part comes from the word laden (meaning heavily loaded or weighed down).--[[User:Goukazaru|Gou]] ([[User talk:Goukazaru|talk]]) 01:08, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
:The middle stages of the Kalos starters appear to be pretty heavily based on the generic fantasy game power trio of fighter, mage, and thief. Paladins are usually a subset or offshoot of fighters, so it's not as unlikely as you seem to think. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 03:17, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
::Except that logic would make ''frogadier'' the fighter, because that's pretty clearly from brigadier, leaving Quilladin either mage or thief, in which case I might suggest "Aladdin"? I'm with Goukazaru on Paladin seeming unlikely, since what we know of Quilladin doesn't sound very "fighter"-y. Since I see the chespin line as being the thief/rogue in this scenario, ''especially'' since there is a suggestion that part of the origin on Chespin's name is *urchin*, and the happy-go-lucky street urchin doesn't seem the type to evolve into a paladin. EDIT: Just saw the species name on Quilladin, so, yeah, I can see where the "armored" thing is coming from.  [[User:Harumei|Harumei]] ([[User talk:Harumei|talk]]) 17:45, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
:::(Edit conflict:) It's possible, but knights are more likely to wear noticeable armor (Quilladin's species name) than thieves/rogues. I don't have any theories about why Frogadier's name comes from brigadier, but if you ignore that, design-wise it's pretty clearly based on the slim, sneaky, speedy thief/rogue D&D archetype (perhaps even with a hint of ninja added, too), at least in my mind. Part of the problem is that both Quilladin and Frogadier have some traits of both fighters and thieves (which is, in turn, at least partly because the two classes themselves are inherently less well-distinguished from each other than from mages). [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:21, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
::::Also, whether they are moves, characters, Pokémon or anything else, the Japanese names are always better indicators for what they are/are based on. In this case, Frogadier's Japanese name comes from a certain kind of criminal.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 18:38, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
== Korean name for Quilladin ==
Its Korean name is 도치보구 ''Dochibogu''.
* Name explanation coming. -- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] ([[User talk:Nick15|talk]]) 17:28, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
* Ok, Korean name meaning:
:* 고슴도치 ''goseumdochi''; hedgehog
:* 보구 ''bogu''; from ''bogue'', the shell of a chestnut
* Easy peasy. -- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] ([[User talk:Nick15|talk]]) 18:25, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
== Friend Safari ==
The Friend Safari article and Serbi list is as being in the grass friend safari, shouldn't it be added here? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 15:33, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
:There's an ongoing discussion about this on [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f195/friend-safari-pok%C3%A9mon-pages-159320/ the forums] and {{DL|Talk:Friend Safari|Pokémon not obtainable anywhere but the Friend Safari|the Friend Safari talk page}}. I don't think there's been a final decision about it, but people generally seem to agree it should be mentioned in some way. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:18, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
== Odd coloring on 3D model ==
For the 3D model of this [[Pokémon]] in [[Pokémon X and Y]], the brown shade on it's head is lighter than the official artwork depicts it as. --[[User:Tag365|Tag365]] ([[User talk:Tag365|talk]]) 13:27, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
:Artwork and in-game appearances differ from time to time. Happens almost every game. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 19:35, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

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Height/Weight

Weighs 29.0kg (63.9 lbs) and 0.7m (2'04") ----samm :D 07:50, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Artwork

I have uploaded a clearer image of Haribōgu with an invisible background.a:File:ハリボーグ_(Haribōgu)_XY_Artwork_Ken_Sugimori.png May I suggest that this is used instead. Thank You!--ShinyPatch (talk) 15:20, 12 September 2013 (UTC)--ShinyPatch (talk) 15:20, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Thank You Ataro!--ShinyPatch (talk) 15:26, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Origin

Based off a rodent and a chestnut. Also, the whole line takes inspiration from a soldier or knight, which hopefully will become more clear in its final evolution. CoolDudeAl (talk) 01:19, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

The bōgu is Quilladin's Japanese name is also a reference to the French [bogue], the hard, green covering of a chestnut still on the tree. Could someone please edit this in? Arpha (talk) 20:10, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Is there something I'm missing here, because I'm not sure how you're getting "soldier/knight" from the Chespin line? If anything, I'd mark the line as an Oliver Twist style upbeat-happy-go-lucky ragamuffin. (edit: I just noticed quilladin's species name. right.) Also, I'm pretty sure that the line is based on a hedgehog, which is not a rodent. So, there's that. Harumei (talk) 18:03, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

Name origin

Paladin, while the spelling fits, sounds like a very unlikely candidate for the name. I think the "ladin" part comes from the word laden (meaning heavily loaded or weighed down).--Gou (talk) 01:08, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

The middle stages of the Kalos starters appear to be pretty heavily based on the generic fantasy game power trio of fighter, mage, and thief. Paladins are usually a subset or offshoot of fighters, so it's not as unlikely as you seem to think. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 03:17, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
Except that logic would make frogadier the fighter, because that's pretty clearly from brigadier, leaving Quilladin either mage or thief, in which case I might suggest "Aladdin"? I'm with Goukazaru on Paladin seeming unlikely, since what we know of Quilladin doesn't sound very "fighter"-y. Since I see the chespin line as being the thief/rogue in this scenario, especially since there is a suggestion that part of the origin on Chespin's name is *urchin*, and the happy-go-lucky street urchin doesn't seem the type to evolve into a paladin. EDIT: Just saw the species name on Quilladin, so, yeah, I can see where the "armored" thing is coming from. Harumei (talk) 17:45, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
(Edit conflict:) It's possible, but knights are more likely to wear noticeable armor (Quilladin's species name) than thieves/rogues. I don't have any theories about why Frogadier's name comes from brigadier, but if you ignore that, design-wise it's pretty clearly based on the slim, sneaky, speedy thief/rogue D&D archetype (perhaps even with a hint of ninja added, too), at least in my mind. Part of the problem is that both Quilladin and Frogadier have some traits of both fighters and thieves (which is, in turn, at least partly because the two classes themselves are inherently less well-distinguished from each other than from mages). Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 18:21, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
Also, whether they are moves, characters, Pokémon or anything else, the Japanese names are always better indicators for what they are/are based on. In this case, Frogadier's Japanese name comes from a certain kind of criminal.--Den Zen 18:38, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

Korean name for Quilladin

Its Korean name is 도치보구 Dochibogu.

  • Name explanation coming. -- Nick15 (talk) 17:28, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
  • Ok, Korean name meaning:
  • 고슴도치 goseumdochi; hedgehog
  • 보구 bogu; from bogue, the shell of a chestnut
  • Easy peasy. -- Nick15 (talk) 18:25, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Friend Safari

The Friend Safari article and Serbi list is as being in the grass friend safari, shouldn't it be added here? Yamitora1 (talk) 15:33, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

There's an ongoing discussion about this on the forums and the Friend Safari talk page. I don't think there's been a final decision about it, but people generally seem to agree it should be mentioned in some way. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 17:18, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Odd coloring on 3D model

For the 3D model of this Pokémon in Pokémon X and Y, the brown shade on it's head is lighter than the official artwork depicts it as. --Tag365 (talk) 13:27, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Artwork and in-game appearances differ from time to time. Happens almost every game. Ataro (talk) 19:35, 13 January 2014 (UTC)