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Not sure if this is relevant or not, but I had a look at some one of the games gameplay footage from E3 and it showed a Pokedex entry that listed a Pokemon's height with meters and the weight in kilograms instead of the heights being measure in inches and the weights being measure in pounds. Should this be mentioned here and or on the Pokedex page? [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 14:04, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
Not sure if this is relevant or not, but I had a look at some one of the games gameplay footage from E3 and it showed a Pokedex entry that listed a Pokemon's height with meters and the weight in kilograms instead of the heights being measure in inches and the weights being measure in pounds. Should this be mentioned here and or on the Pokedex page? [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 14:04, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
:It's still prerelease. We'll wait and see. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:03, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
:It's still prerelease. We'll wait and see. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:03, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
:I will say that should it only appear in pre-release information, then we can add it to the relevant article for [[Beta Pokémon games]] in November.  --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 16:06, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
::I will say that should it only appear in pre-release information, then we can add it to the relevant article for [[Beta Pokémon games]] in November.  --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 16:06, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

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What generation?

I know this is very unusual, having a talk page created before its main page counterpart, but do we have enough information to outright confirm S/M as part of Generation VII? Bwburke94 (talk) 15:10, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

I know generations aren't really official per se, so there's no way of really knowing, especially without knowing what region they take place in. Nutter Butter (talk) 15:21, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
No confirmation yet, but the official website mentions that you have to use Pokémon Bank to trade from XYORAS, which would suggest a new gen as otherwise you could just trade directly. --Dorsal Axe (talk) 15:32, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
Also another hint that this game is in Gen VII is in the decription of this clip I cite "The next era of Pokémon games has been announced! Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon are coming to the Nintendo 3DS family of systems in late 2016! Visit our site for more information!" --Raltseye 15:51, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
http://pokemon.gamespress.com/release.asp?i=1942&lang=en&region=United+Kingdom Torpoleon (talk) 18:01, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

In other languages

Could someone add this?

Language Title
France Flag.png French Pokémon Soleil et Lune
Germany Flag.png German Pokémon Sonne und Mond
Italy Flag.png Italian Pokémon Sole e Luna
Spain Flag.png Spanish Pokémon Sol y Pokémon Luna

--Raltseye 16:17, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

Language Title
Chinese Cantonese 精靈寶可夢 太陽·月亮
Mandarin 精灵宝可梦 太阳·月亮
France Flag.png French Pokémon Soleil et Lune
Germany Flag.png German Pokémon Sonne und Mond
Italy Flag.png Italian Pokémon Sole e Luna
Spain Flag.png Spanish Pokémon Sol y Pokémon Luna

And this. Thought the language codes for Chinese aren't quite right, the template doesn't currently support any other way of doing it. The "Mandarin" name is the name in Simplified characters, and the "Cantonese" one is the Traditional characters name. The Taiwanese name would be Mandarin as well, but written the "Cantonese way". - BZD (talk) 17:15, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

Langlinks

Someone should add the langlinks from [1]. --Chandelure2509 (talk) 19:04, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

It's going to be based on Malaysia

[2] MannedTooth (Talk) 23:55, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

Take a good look at that whole history with a skeptical mind... I'm not, personally, sure how to check if a Twitter account is verified or anything, but it seems very unlikely that's really Shigeru Miyamoto. Tiddlywinks (talk) 00:07, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, you're right. So we'll just ignore it xP MannedTooth (Talk) 00:08, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
I'm sorry to say this, but you don't need a skeptical mind to notice that's a parody account. 100% fake, just look at all the profanity and dank memes there are there. --Gabo 2oo (talk) 03:52, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Interesting facts that might be considered added

[3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] MannedTooth (Talk) 23:59, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

Same as above... Tiddlywinks (talk) 00:07, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Chinese Logos

Since when do we put Chinese logos in the gallery? :O MannedTooth (Talk) 01:01, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Since they started existing. These are the first games officially translated into Chinese. glikglak 01:08, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
I know, but what I mean is, why do we keep these and not the others? (French, etc.) MannedTooth (Talk) 01:32, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
I think it's because they use a different writing system for their language, unlike the European ones, all of which use the romanian alphabet. That said, I don't think there's anything preventing us from adding the European logos in the galleries too. --Gabo 2oo (talk) 03:37, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

A little bit of trivia

These are the first non-remake games since Red, Green and Blue that use symbols on their logos. --Gabo 2oo (talk) 03:54, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

HGSS seem to have symbols. Tiddlywinks (talk) 04:00, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
"Non-remake." Luckytama (talk) 04:02, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
Considering the kinds of symbols that are on RGB, I think excluding remakes is a very arbitrary condition; the symbols on the remakes are used very like those on RBG. Tiddlywinks (talk) 04:11, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Korean logos

I would add them to the page myself if I could, but here are the Korean logos. If someone can add them to the page, I would greatly appreciate it. -- Nick15 (talk) 01:23, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Added to the page. --Abcboy (talk) 01:20, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
Thanks! -- Nick15 (talk) 01:23, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Professor

Are you sure Hala is the Professor? I mean, I know he was the one who sent the starter Pokemon out, but Professors are usually named after trees and Kukui is a type of tree, or is related to trees. Playerking95 (talk) 16:55, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Hala tree or Pandanus tectorius is a tree that grows on Hawaii, so both characters are named after trees. --Basinox (talk) 17:11, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
Neither of them have been called a professor (or -hakase), so the point is that it's premature to call either of them "Professor _____", as this page does in the caption of the screenshot of Hala. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 20:38, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Solgaleo and Lunaala.

It's pretty much certain that their names will be Solgaleo and Lunaala. Considering that the Moon one is LEO like Lion and SOLGA like Solar and GALEO like Galileo - unsigned comment from Theexploringgamer (talkcontribs)

When there's some confirmation, great. Until then, it's still speculation. Tiddlywinks (talk) 17:38, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
So what about the Pokemon on the front covers of Sun and Moon? Theexploringgamer (talk) 15:51, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
What do you mean what about them? Tiddlywinks (talk) 15:52, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
Should we make an article with the "Solgaleo" and "Lunaala" names and put the "The subject of this article has no official name.
The name currently in use is a fan designator; see below for more information." message? Theexploringgamer (talk) 15:54, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
For the "See Below" Part, you could put "Fans currently speculate this Pokemon's name after 2 names from the Pokemon Company were revealed in  :::::the Japenese Trademark database" 15:56, 12 May 2016 (UTC) - unsigned comment from Theexploringgamer (talkcontribs)
Until they are officially revealed, it is (as you said) purely speculation what the names will be. There's already limited enough information and speculation running rampant with the new region and starters, there's no need to post entirely speculative articles that ave nothing more than a picture and possible Japanese name. ChE clarinetist (talk) 16:09, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
True. There are things we might do to showcase unidentified Pokemon somehow, but not that. We generally want to stick to describing confirmed details; Bulbapedia isn't a news site that really needs to stay abreast of current (or the most "likely") rumors. Tiddlywinks (talk) 16:47, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
Apparently these two names were leaked through trademarks. We don't know if these trademarks are real or not, but at least for now we know that the trademarks for the Japanese names of Rowlet, Litten, and Popplio are real. Crum Mum 19:14, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
So now that the leaks confirmed these true, except Lunala's extra a, could we consider any other new trademarks true? Theexploringgamer (talk) 20:44, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
Game Freak has also, over the years, filed trademarks for things like "Pokémon Delta Emerald" and "Pokémon Gray." We can't trust that any particular trademark will be actually implemented. Any given trademark could be changed or abandoned entirely before being publicly revealed. So no, we can't treat trademarks as fact. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 05:30, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
However, we all already thought Delta Emerald wouldn't happen because of OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire. And Grey, I can't argue with that. But we had enough evidence to assume, due to the Lion legendary, and the naming of Solar, Galieo, and Leo, that we could've peiced together the name.... Theexploringgamer (talk) 14:21, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
We don't need to make assumptions. Just be patient and wait for official news. If you're so eager to discuss what might be, you may wish to explore the forums instead. Tiddlywinks (talk) 14:36, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
Okay! I'll try my best to stop getting ahead of myself. Theexploringgamer (talk) 14:39, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

Trailers [June 2nd]

UK: Explore the Alola Region in Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon!, Explore the Alola Region in Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon! (North America), (Japan 1), (Japan 2), (Japan 3), (Japan 4), (Japan 5), (Japan 6), (Japan 7). --Super goku (talk) 21:02, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

Protagonist Names

According to the E3 2016 trailer, the names of the protagonists may be Elio and Selene because Elio is from Helios the Greek word for Sun and Selene is the Greek word for Moon and they probably used the names for both the manga and the game in the Battle Royal part or maybe they are just tricking us. --Red Yoshi Team Moon (talk) 21:50, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Note that they also used the names Sun and Moon in the Battle Royal. We don't know which of these names, if any, will be the official names. Either or both pairs could just be names they're using for promotional materials. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 22:39, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
As with everything else, if it's not 100% confirmed, it doesn't go on the site. --HoennMaster 05:24, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Magearna

Shouldn't Magearna's new artwork be in the gallery? Nutter Butter (talk) 21:59, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Magearna has been added. CycloneGU (talk) 23:25, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Pokedex

Not sure if this is relevant or not, but I had a look at some one of the games gameplay footage from E3 and it showed a Pokedex entry that listed a Pokemon's height with meters and the weight in kilograms instead of the heights being measure in inches and the weights being measure in pounds. Should this be mentioned here and or on the Pokedex page? Playerking95 (talk) 14:04, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

It's still prerelease. We'll wait and see. Tiddlywinks (talk) 15:03, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
I will say that should it only appear in pre-release information, then we can add it to the relevant article for Beta Pokémon games in November. --Super goku (talk) 16:06, 16 June 2016 (UTC)