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==Remastered Music==
==Remastered Music==
Can anyone link to a place where I can hear this remastered music? Just for curiosity's sake.--[[User:PikamasterADV|PikamasterADV]] 12:43, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Can anyone link to a place where I can hear this remastered music? Just for curiosity's sake.--[[User:PikamasterADV|PikamasterADV]] 12:43, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
== Tileset ==
The pic won't upload for me, it says it has no extension (JPG etc.) but it does. I've tried PNG and JPG.
It can be found here [http://i42.tinypic.com/5ba1oo.png] --[[User:~Poke~|~Poke~]] 08:12, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
:You have to add one in the uploading title.--[[User:RexRacer|'''<font color="#E7CE6B">Rex</font>]][[User talk:RexRacer|<font color="#42528C">Racer</font>''']] 06:24, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
::Yeah, I did, but when I clicked upload it said it needed a file extension. --[[User:~Poke~|~Poke~]] 08:12, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
== Beta Sprites? ==
I was feeling bored, so I looked through Serebii.net's archived news. I was looking at all the RS "new Pokemon" news. I noticed, in the battling screens, the Pokemon had different sprites, as well as the battle scene was different.--[[User:Goukazaru|Gou]] 17:12, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
== Weird Sprite ==
Theres videos of it on youtube, and i'm pretty sure it's in Red and Blue version too. Its a sprite of a fat man, the sumo guy from Quinty. He's put into the data of the pokemon games. Could we have some info on that in here? [[User:CherryParanoia|CherryParanoia]] 20:12, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
:Can you provided a link?--[[User:Midnight Blue|<font color="#333333">Midnight</font> <font color="#191970">Blue</font>]] 20:14, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
::http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq2mbAF_1Lg&feature=channel_page That's the only one i can find. I think the one with the Red and Blue version of Quinty got deleted off youtube or something. [[User:CherryParanoia|CherryParanoia]] 23:18, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
== Do you know what it is called? ==
The in-battle health bar next to the pokémon, is that called a HP Bar? B/c there is info I want to add and I do not know what to call it.--[[User:Midnight Blue|<font color="#333333">Midnight</font> <font color="#191970">Blue</font>]] 01:24, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
:That's what I've always called it. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 01:25, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
::Alright, I'll use that.--[[User:Midnight Blue|<font color="#333333">Midnight</font> <font color="#191970">Blue</font>]] 01:26, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
==Shop/Mart==
''In some photos, Pokémart roofs are colored red instead of blue, and is referred as "shop" instead of "mart" on the front.''
I thought all of the Poké Marts said "Shop" in the Japanese versions? I have a copy of JP Red and they all say "SHOP" (in English) on the signs. So while the red roof bit is interesting, I think the "Shop" part is just a JP/NA difference and doesn't really need to be mentioned in this article (imho). [[User:Zesty Cactus|Zesty Cactus]] 01:58, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
:Oh, I did not know that, alright thanks for telling me.--[[User:Midnight Blue|<font color="#333333">Midnight</font> <font color="#191970">Blue</font>]] 02:00, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
::No problem. [[User:Zesty Cactus|Zesty Cactus]] 02:02, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
== Regi Dolls ==
According to the [[Pokémon Doll]] article, there is coding in the games for dolls of the [[Legendary Golems|Regi Trio]], however plans did not pan out thus there is no way to obtain them in game sans cheating. Should we mention them in the article? --[[User:Bardock|Bar]][[User_Talk:Bardock|dock]] 13:57, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
:If you don't, someone should. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 06:38, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
::Done. --[[User:Bardock|Bar]][[User_Talk:Bardock|dock]] 22:59, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
Wait, the dolls ARE unlockable in JP versions (e-Reader in RS, and use trader to trade to Em).
I've uploaded a scan of the unlocking e-card [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:RegiDollCard.jpg here]. --[[User:Rabby250|Rabby250]] 12:13, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
== Some beta screenshots? ==
I happened to find (what I believe to be) some [http://gameboy.ign.com/articles/355/355527p1.html beta screenshots here], which are probably either routes that didn't make it into the final game, or early versions of existing routes. The first screenshot looks remotely like [[Route 123]], with the general tree formation, ledges, and water in the top-right, although Route 123 as we know it doesn't have any ponds, or have that exact layout. The second screenshot looks like an early [[Dewford Town]], considering it's by the beach with water to the north, although the final version is filled with trees. The final screenshot, with the bridge over the water and the player's shadow, remotely resembles [[Route 120]], although otherwise it is much different, since Route 120 isn't mountainous at all. I actually remember these screenshots before R/S was released (I have a fairly good photographic memory), and I remember that shortly after I got Ruby, I looked at them and I said to myself that these screenshots don't look familiar one bit. So, unless someone can prove that these are places in the final game, should these belong here? --[[User:Blaziken257|<span style="color:#F08030;">'''Blaz'''</span>]][[User talk:Blaziken257|<span style="color:#C03028;">'''iken'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Blaziken257|<span style="color:#302000;">'''257'''</span>]] 02:27, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
==Endo on the bike==
I was...'digging' through the overworld sprites, and certain bike sprites show the rider and bike doing a wheelie, 'jump,' and finally, an endo.  [[User:Dry Bones|<font color="#191970" face="Mistral">DB</font>]] 04:34, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
== Beta music zip ==
I found a zip file with the beta music here. Is it worth including in the article? [http://www.megaupload.com/?d=A4AD759G] --[[User:Fsilone90|Fsilone90]] 01:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
== New Beta screenshot ==
Someone in the Bulbagarden forum has shown new information and screenshot relative at Pokémon Ruby and Shappire Beta here: http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f226/i-have-found-new-beta-images-pok%C3%A9mon-ruby-sapphire-135725/ {{unsigned|Gyro}}
== No Mention of it... ==
There’s also one other thing that I find kind of weird, and while I don’t have the proof of pics on me to show here, I don’t think it’s that hard to find it otherwise. Fortunately, Google doesn’t currently hate me and I’ve found a link to a picture someone else posted of the same critter.
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/5837/sumo.png
He is from a game called mendal palace.
Source: http://tcrf.net/Pok%C3%A9mon_Ruby_and_Sapphire#Unused_overworld_sprite
== A note on the Ruby Debug version ==
Obviously this isn't worth mentioning in the article, but it might be of interest to someone so I'll mention it here.
:Some quick background info: I've temporarily come into possession of a German Emerald version and want to make the most of it while I can since there's a lot of Pokemon I can't get between my Sapphire and LeafGreen. In Gens I & II I know you could change a nickname back to the species name before trading and it would be able to get the new species name when it evolved, so I figured I'd do that before trading between my English games and our exchange student's German game. That's a no-go apparently, but I hadn't checked the [[trade]] article beforehand.
:I'm left wondering whether Pokemon which share the same name between languages such as Abra/Kadabra would change names if they evolved in a different language version. I figured I'd test it on the computer since that way I don't have to mess with my carts. I loaded up the German debug version of Ruby and a regular copy (each with their own unique save states.) I caught an Abra in the English version, but the German game isn't very far along, so I decided to just use the 'Create PKMN' debug menu to create a Pokemon to trade rather than catch something that the other game already has. I made a level 5 Yanma, nothing fancy. The reason I'm posting this is, the Yanma I created has the same Trainer ID and Special ID as the other Pokemon captured normally, but the OT name is 'Debug-G' and has a fateful encounter flag by default. It also gains boosted experience in battle (in the German game where I generated it) but I don't know if this might be related to the fateful encounter flag or having a different OT name than my player character.
:There's also a bunch of symbols that show up on the screen during the confirmation dialog before you enter the cable club room, but I know that has been seen to appear in other areas when using the debug menus.
--[[User:GARY-DOS|GARY-DOS]] ([[User talk:GARY-DOS|talk]]) 22:50, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
== Some pre-release images ==
[http://web.archive.org/web/20030201095639/http://www.pokemon.com/news/UpdateRound2.asp] [http://web.archive.org/web/20021201103851/http://www.pokemon.com/news/UpdateRound3.asp] [http://web.archive.org/web/20021201100209/http://www.pokemon.com/News/news1.asp] In-case anyone finds these useful. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 16:16, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
== We should have the reference to Masuda's quote for limitations section. ==
http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/dir_english/?p=28
Here's the link to the quote. [[User:Trainer Yusuf|Trainer Yusuf]] ([[User talk:Trainer Yusuf|talk]]) 09:24, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
==“I may even have seen it receiving a piece of MAIL.”==
This text is actually used for a little-known feature. If you deposit a Pokémon holding Mail into the Day Care and then mix records, the Mail can be transferred to a Pokémon in another game’s Day Care, and the Day-Care Man there will tell you about it. —[[User:Háčky|Háčky]] ([[User talk:Háčky|talk]]) 22:44, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
==No Abilities==
"It is also shown that Sharpedo has no Ability in the demo; it could mean that not all Pokémon could have Abilities. "
The Cutting Room[https://tcrf.net/Pok%C3%A9mon_Ruby_and_Sapphire#Unused_Overworld_sprite] explicitly states:
"Lack of Ability
The string "No special ability." (Japanese: とくせいなし) is used when the game manages a Pokémon with an Ability of identifier 00. The term is never used in normal gameplay within the final game because all Pokémon were given Abilities." [[User:Trainer Yusuf|Trainer Yusuf]] ([[User talk:Trainer Yusuf|talk]]) 12:49, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

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Remastered Music

Can anyone link to a place where I can hear this remastered music? Just for curiosity's sake.--PikamasterADV 12:43, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Tileset

The pic won't upload for me, it says it has no extension (JPG etc.) but it does. I've tried PNG and JPG. It can be found here [1] --~Poke~ 08:12, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

You have to add one in the uploading title.--RexRacer 06:24, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I did, but when I clicked upload it said it needed a file extension. --~Poke~ 08:12, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Beta Sprites?

I was feeling bored, so I looked through Serebii.net's archived news. I was looking at all the RS "new Pokemon" news. I noticed, in the battling screens, the Pokemon had different sprites, as well as the battle scene was different.--Gou 17:12, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Weird Sprite

Theres videos of it on youtube, and i'm pretty sure it's in Red and Blue version too. Its a sprite of a fat man, the sumo guy from Quinty. He's put into the data of the pokemon games. Could we have some info on that in here? CherryParanoia 20:12, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Can you provided a link?--Midnight Blue 20:14, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq2mbAF_1Lg&feature=channel_page That's the only one i can find. I think the one with the Red and Blue version of Quinty got deleted off youtube or something. CherryParanoia 23:18, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Do you know what it is called?

The in-battle health bar next to the pokémon, is that called a HP Bar? B/c there is info I want to add and I do not know what to call it.--Midnight Blue 01:24, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

That's what I've always called it. —darklordtrom 01:25, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
Alright, I'll use that.--Midnight Blue 01:26, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Shop/Mart

In some photos, Pokémart roofs are colored red instead of blue, and is referred as "shop" instead of "mart" on the front.

I thought all of the Poké Marts said "Shop" in the Japanese versions? I have a copy of JP Red and they all say "SHOP" (in English) on the signs. So while the red roof bit is interesting, I think the "Shop" part is just a JP/NA difference and doesn't really need to be mentioned in this article (imho). Zesty Cactus 01:58, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Oh, I did not know that, alright thanks for telling me.--Midnight Blue 02:00, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
No problem. Zesty Cactus 02:02, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Regi Dolls

According to the Pokémon Doll article, there is coding in the games for dolls of the Regi Trio, however plans did not pan out thus there is no way to obtain them in game sans cheating. Should we mention them in the article? --Bardock 13:57, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

If you don't, someone should. —darklordtrom 06:38, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
Done. --Bardock 22:59, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Wait, the dolls ARE unlockable in JP versions (e-Reader in RS, and use trader to trade to Em). I've uploaded a scan of the unlocking e-card here. --Rabby250 12:13, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Some beta screenshots?

I happened to find (what I believe to be) some beta screenshots here, which are probably either routes that didn't make it into the final game, or early versions of existing routes. The first screenshot looks remotely like Route 123, with the general tree formation, ledges, and water in the top-right, although Route 123 as we know it doesn't have any ponds, or have that exact layout. The second screenshot looks like an early Dewford Town, considering it's by the beach with water to the north, although the final version is filled with trees. The final screenshot, with the bridge over the water and the player's shadow, remotely resembles Route 120, although otherwise it is much different, since Route 120 isn't mountainous at all. I actually remember these screenshots before R/S was released (I have a fairly good photographic memory), and I remember that shortly after I got Ruby, I looked at them and I said to myself that these screenshots don't look familiar one bit. So, unless someone can prove that these are places in the final game, should these belong here? --Blaziken257 02:27, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Endo on the bike

I was...'digging' through the overworld sprites, and certain bike sprites show the rider and bike doing a wheelie, 'jump,' and finally, an endo. DB 04:34, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Beta music zip

I found a zip file with the beta music here. Is it worth including in the article? [2] --Fsilone90 01:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

New Beta screenshot

Someone in the Bulbagarden forum has shown new information and screenshot relative at Pokémon Ruby and Shappire Beta here: http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f226/i-have-found-new-beta-images-pok%C3%A9mon-ruby-sapphire-135725/ - unsigned comment from Gyro (talkcontribs)

No Mention of it...

There’s also one other thing that I find kind of weird, and while I don’t have the proof of pics on me to show here, I don’t think it’s that hard to find it otherwise. Fortunately, Google doesn’t currently hate me and I’ve found a link to a picture someone else posted of the same critter.

sumo.png

He is from a game called mendal palace.

Source: http://tcrf.net/Pok%C3%A9mon_Ruby_and_Sapphire#Unused_overworld_sprite

A note on the Ruby Debug version

Obviously this isn't worth mentioning in the article, but it might be of interest to someone so I'll mention it here.

Some quick background info: I've temporarily come into possession of a German Emerald version and want to make the most of it while I can since there's a lot of Pokemon I can't get between my Sapphire and LeafGreen. In Gens I & II I know you could change a nickname back to the species name before trading and it would be able to get the new species name when it evolved, so I figured I'd do that before trading between my English games and our exchange student's German game. That's a no-go apparently, but I hadn't checked the trade article beforehand.
I'm left wondering whether Pokemon which share the same name between languages such as Abra/Kadabra would change names if they evolved in a different language version. I figured I'd test it on the computer since that way I don't have to mess with my carts. I loaded up the German debug version of Ruby and a regular copy (each with their own unique save states.) I caught an Abra in the English version, but the German game isn't very far along, so I decided to just use the 'Create PKMN' debug menu to create a Pokemon to trade rather than catch something that the other game already has. I made a level 5 Yanma, nothing fancy. The reason I'm posting this is, the Yanma I created has the same Trainer ID and Special ID as the other Pokemon captured normally, but the OT name is 'Debug-G' and has a fateful encounter flag by default. It also gains boosted experience in battle (in the German game where I generated it) but I don't know if this might be related to the fateful encounter flag or having a different OT name than my player character.
There's also a bunch of symbols that show up on the screen during the confirmation dialog before you enter the cable club room, but I know that has been seen to appear in other areas when using the debug menus.

--GARY-DOS (talk) 22:50, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Some pre-release images

[3] [4] [5] In-case anyone finds these useful. --SnorlaxMonster 16:16, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

We should have the reference to Masuda's quote for limitations section.

http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/dir_english/?p=28

Here's the link to the quote. Trainer Yusuf (talk) 09:24, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

“I may even have seen it receiving a piece of MAIL.”

This text is actually used for a little-known feature. If you deposit a Pokémon holding Mail into the Day Care and then mix records, the Mail can be transferred to a Pokémon in another game’s Day Care, and the Day-Care Man there will tell you about it. —Háčky (talk) 22:44, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

No Abilities

"It is also shown that Sharpedo has no Ability in the demo; it could mean that not all Pokémon could have Abilities. "

The Cutting Room[6] explicitly states:

"Lack of Ability The string "No special ability." (Japanese: とくせいなし) is used when the game manages a Pokémon with an Ability of identifier 00. The term is never used in normal gameplay within the final game because all Pokémon were given Abilities." Trainer Yusuf (talk) 12:49, 16 May 2016 (UTC)