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::UPDATE. Um.....yeah. When I tried to edit the page, I guess it didn't process well. It seems we need to break the page up into smaller sections. I suggest we have a separate article called "Pokémon Gold and Silver Plot Synopsis".[[User:DarkGiratina|DarkGiratina]] 21:09 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 
::UPDATE. Um.....yeah. When I tried to edit the page, I guess it didn't process well. It seems we need to break the page up into smaller sections. I suggest we have a separate article called "Pokémon Gold and Silver Plot Synopsis".[[User:DarkGiratina|DarkGiratina]] 21:09 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 
:::Never mind. I slept on the idea, and I decided it was incredibly dumb. I'll just wait for someone else to finish this page. [[User:DarkGiratina|DarkGiratina]] 12:19 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 
:::Never mind. I slept on the idea, and I decided it was incredibly dumb. I'll just wait for someone else to finish this page. [[User:DarkGiratina|DarkGiratina]] 12:19 6 July 2009 (UTC)
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Wasn't this the first pokémon game to give trainers names?
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Revision as of 03:15, 31 July 2009

So what's the change in the decision? Did Evkl change his mind? I think these combined pages are going to be crowded when listing differences. And it makes other pages like Green, Yellow, and Emerald stick out.

The differences can be listed in separate articles, if they are going to be at all. A summary can be given on this main article, like Pokémon Gold and Pokémon Silver have different sets of wild Pokémon obtainable. But, I think such a list can be presented compactly like this:

Gold-only Silver-only
  • a
  • b
  • c
  • d
  • e
  • f
  • g
  • h
  • i
Also in Crystal
  • k
  • l
  • m
  • n
  • o
  • p

Of course, you could vastly simplify it since we aren't discussing Pokémon Crystal. Here's the logic to decide which Pokémon goes where: If a Pokémon is in:

  • all 3: don't list.
  • none of the 3: don't list.
  • in Gold and Silver only: list with a b c
  • in Gold only: list with d e f
  • in Silver only: list with g h i
  • in Gold and Crystal only: list with k l m
  • in Silver and Crystal only: list with n o p

I think we shouldn't compare with the third of the series in these paired articles though, that can be done in the article for the third game itself.

I can't really think of any other major differences that would require such a detailed explanation though.

For large chunks of information common to all games in a series, perhaps create another article like Generation III Hoenn or Generation II Kanto. - 振霖T 11:10, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Blatant lies

Gold and Silver also introduced the concept of evolution by methods other than leveling, using an evolutionary stone, or trading.

I removed this sentence, since evolutionary stones and trade evolutions were quite obviously already introduced in Generation I. -Pat 06:13, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

That's not what it said. It said that GSC introduced new evo methods other than leveling, stones, or trading. It did not say that it introduced stones and trading as new evo methods other than leveling. IIMarckus 06:17, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
Haha. Oh, I'm a douche. -Pat 03:36, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Platinum?

isn't it a bit strange that its Diamond/Gem Pearl/Gem Platinum/Metal? now lets Look at this

Gold/Metal Silver/Metal? The name hints it!!

OR they could be pulling a Crystal on Us? Dakclaw 07:46, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

What are you saying? That Plantinum is the GS remake? I'd doubt it, why would Johto have a Spear Pillar? Posted by the Θρtιmαtum♏Talk|Links07:51 17 May 2008
What i'm Saying is that in Crystal at the end of the game you can travel to Kanto maybe in Platinum ::you can travel to Johto at the end of the game Dakclaw 07:53, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

No. That would be terrible, I hate Gen II Kanto and it would destroy any chancce of GSDS. Guardian of Earth 17:23, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

So tell me, Dakclaw, what does Crystal have to do with Red, Blue, Green and Yellow? Last time I checked, Crystal/Gem and RedBlueGreenYellow/Colors. Posted by the Θρtιmαtum♏Talk|Links07:58 17 May 2008
Crystal's not even a gem, it's a molecular structure. Anyway... I see what Dakclaw means, with Platinum's name possibly being yet another GSDS hint. But I seriously doubt you'd be able to visit Johto in Platinum... I mean, you could access Kanto in GS, so of course you could access it in Crystal. Why would it be "pulling a Crystal" if we couldn't visit it in DP?
Also, this discussion doesn't seem relevant to the article. We'd better stop it before we get in trouble with Sketchies; take it to the forums instead. --Martonimos((Talk)) 08:06, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Red not a reference to Special?

It says that Red's team references Red from Special by including a Pikachu, Snorlax, and Espeon - is this true? It seems more likely (to me, at least) that it's a fairly generic team based on Generation 1 - he has all four starting Pokemon from Red/Green/Blue/Yellow, and the two non-legendary Pokemon that could be found outside of random encounters (though the Eevee has evolved). Does anyone else agree that Red's team referencing Special should be removed from the article?

I agree. This subject has also come up in the Red's Pikachu article. IIMarckus 15:41, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Surely it's the other way round, as so much of Special is based on the games? For instance, Gold and Red going to battle at Mt. Silver and Lance telling Silver that he needs to treat his Pokemon with more care. I mean, he doesn't get the team exactly like Red in GS until the GS arc in the manga. I thought it was pretty obvious that Red's manga team is based on his team in Generation II as opposed to the other way around.

Glitches

I read through the article and didn't find anything on the GS glitch that clones pokémon and I was wondering if it should be added or if there was a reason that it was not added. - unsigned comment from Greenmcr (talkcontribs)

Internal clock "glitch" - Ruby/Sapphire?

The internal clock wore out the game cartridge's battery faster, reducing the time it would last to about 6 years. Ruby/Sapphire has an internal clock (inside Brandon's bedroom, and the internal one that tells how long berries will take to grow). Will the same start to happen to R/S/E? C Teng [talk] 17:21, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

What internal clock glitch? I've had my copy of Silver for a little over 8 years, and it still keeps time just fine...--Shiningpikablu252 17:23, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Besides, even if such issue is real, it isn't definitely a glitch and simply a problem of a battery that wore out. Pokemon lover 18:05, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
It's less a glitch than simple wear. In a fit of nostalgia inspired by hearing about HG/SS, I dragged out all my old games and was heartbroken to find the saves of GSC gone. Fortunately (and somewhat ironically since it's a fair bit older) I found my Yellow save happily intact. I'd guess that eventually, yes, the internal batteries of RSE will wear out, but it seems to me to be less of an issue since migrating forward is an option - an option that will hopefully be retained as long as Pokemon lives. AlishaShatogi 08:15, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
RSE saves via flash memory, as does FRLG. The battery in RSE is for the clock alone. RBY's saves are in danger, however, and will die eventually, but not for a long time after GSC has, since their batteries took care of both the time and the save. And DPPtHGSS don't have anything other than flash memory, no batteries period in those carts. TTEchidna 08:28, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Good to know they fixed a design flaw. I know less about the actual media of the games than I probably should. AlishaShatogi 08:33, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
There's good news though: the internal batteries in GameBoy cartriges can be replaced. I found a video on YouTube showing how to do it (on a copy of Silver) However, I wouldn't recommend trying this unless you know exactly what you're doing! Taromon777 11:14, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

umm...correction its [Brendan]] not Brandon...heheGio12 11:20, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

The Plot

What's up with the plot section? I don't know much about the plot of that game but it just stops after the player battles Morty for the Fog Badge. He's only the fourth Gym Leader! It doesn't even mention the last four Leaders or the Elite Four or the player going to Kanto. I don't know the plot of this game so could someone fill it in. Bttsstewart 03:05, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

It's all good, friend. The plot has been expanded on, and now I'm putting the finishing touches on it. once it's done, you may edit it as you see fit. DarkGiratina 20:03 5 July 2009 (UTC)
UPDATE. Um.....yeah. When I tried to edit the page, I guess it didn't process well. It seems we need to break the page up into smaller sections. I suggest we have a separate article called "Pokémon Gold and Silver Plot Synopsis".DarkGiratina 21:09 5 July 2009 (UTC)
Never mind. I slept on the idea, and I decided it was incredibly dumb. I'll just wait for someone else to finish this page. DarkGiratina 12:19 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Names

Wasn't this the first pokémon game to give trainers names?

Metalucario