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BTW, just to make sure, you can transfer pokemon from colosseum to Ruby or Saphire using only a wire and GBA, right?  Thanks.  --[[User:Combine 108|Combine 108]] 03:06, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
BTW, just to make sure, you can transfer pokemon from colosseum to Ruby or Saphire using only a wire and GBA, right?  Thanks.  --[[User:Combine 108|Combine 108]] 03:06, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
Why are we consistently referring to Rui as "the girl"? [[User:TraxScrip813|TraxScrip813]] ([[User talk:TraxScrip813|talk]]) 11:42, 13 October 2016 (UTC)


== The order... ==
== The order... ==
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it says nothing about ribbons here {{Unsigned|Emo-fairy}}
it says nothing about ribbons here {{Unsigned|Emo-fairy}}
:Now it does. --[[User:Phred|Phred]] 16:52, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
:Now it does. --[[User:Phred|Phred]] 16:52, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
:so i see. can you get any other ribbons? [[User:Emo-fairy|emoemo]] 14:14, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
::No. --[[User:Phred|Phred]] 22:37, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
:::what a shame . if you cant get any other ribbons, why is the space for trhem so big? [[User:Emo-fairy|emoemo]] 12:25, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
::::So you can see all the Ribbons held by a Pokémon that came from Ruby/Sapphire and earned lots of them. --[[User:Phred|Phred]] 17:53, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
:::: that makes sense.
== player guide ==
where can you get the player guide for this game from? [[User:Emo-fairy|emoemo]] 14:09, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
== Leaf and Red ==
Where exactly do you see them? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 21:54, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
== OT and ID # ==
What is the OT and ID # of Pokémon transferred to a GBA game? Like an Entei, etc. And what will the Pal Park data say? Distant Land? I'm trying to find out if an Entei and some other Pokémon I have are actually form Colosseum and not fakes... --[[User:Sivart345|<span style="color:#4DC000">Sivart</span>]][[User talk:Sivart345|<span style="color:#00FF60">3</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Sivart345|<span style="color:#00FFA0">4</span>]][[User:Firestorm|<span style="color:#7FFFF7">'''5'''</span>]] 20:17, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
:The OT name and ID numbers for a snagged Pokémon from either Colosseum or XD:  Gale of Darkness work the same way as for the handheld games.  The only real difference is that the OT name for such a Pokémon is always highlighted with male colors, since the Gamecube games only allow you to play as male characters and all NPC Pokémon gifts in those games come from males.  The Pal Park listing says it came from a "distant land" (as opposed to saying it's from Orre), but why did they opt for that and not actually list the country of origin like it does for Hoenn and Kanto?  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 21:15, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
::Ok thanks. Seriously it should have been Orre. O_o [[User:Sivart345|<span style="color:#4DC000">Sivart</span>]][[User talk:Sivart345|<span style="color:#00FF60">3</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Sivart345|<span style="color:#00FFA0">4</span>]][[User:Firestorm|<span style="color:#7FFFF7">'''5'''</span>]] 18:59, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
== Trading ==
The XD article has trading, why doesnt this one have it? {{unsigned|?????}}
:There's no trading in this game, I believe. [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#FF1111"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#DAA520"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 01:09, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
::There is... you can trade with the GBA games. I think it's only after you beat the game, though, but don't quote me on that. I never got that far on Colo, heh. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|<span style="color:#d93f91;">Ťïňắ</span>]]'' <sup>[[User talk:Tina|<span style="color:#ae41d9;">♫</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|<span style="color:#d941cf;">♥</span>]]</sup> 01:12, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
:::I think the user's referring to in-game trading, but that'd be the case for after you purify them all.... I think... [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#FF1111"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#DAA520"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 01:14, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
== Unlimited second chances to snag the Pokemon? ==
Various websites, people and Bulbapedia state that some of the snaggable Pokemon can have second chances if you happen to miss snagging them. I do know those include Bayleef, Quilava, Croconaw and Hitmontop if I recall correctly. I'm just wondering though, do all of the snaggable Pokemon offer second chances at snagging them, and if so, do they offer unlimited tries of snagging them if you happen to miss them the second time? I think this should be detailed whether or not that applies in this article... [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 00:47, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, you do get unlimited chances to make the snag, and this applies to every single shadow Pokémon.  Do note that some trainers relocate for different battles.  For example, if you fail to snag from a [[Cipher Admin]] the first time, the second try is at [[Realgam Tower]]; fail there and you'll have to go to [[Deep Colosseum]] to make the snag, where you'll have as many attempts as you need as long as you can cycle through.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 02:53, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
::Well that's a relief. Think that should be noted in the article? Because all it ever states are those evolved forms of the Johto starters having second chances. [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 02:56, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
==Transferred Pokémon==
I'm new here and i thought it'd be worth mentioning; All pokemon transfered from ruby saphire or emerald to colosseum get a 50% xp bonus when killing a pokemon in coloddeum ;-) (i haven't posted it yet though) but it could go under the compatibility section i guess Greetz [[User:-Cipher-|-Cipher-]] 20:39, 26 July 2010 (UTC)).
:New comments to the bottom of pages please. All Pokémon not from the same game get that bonus, whether they are traded from another handheld game or transferred from Colosseum. It's listed on the [[Experience]] page, and it deosn't really fit on here, given that the boost isn't exclusive to these Pokémon. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</sc> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 20:51, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
::Sry and sry again as i can't create the indent on my blackberry =/(computer's broke)[NVM THAT, if the coding is standard then i know what to do ^^] and didn't know about that so thx for the info ^^, got anothher question though, but i don't know if it belongs here =(; howcome my latios (training it in colosseum) isn't learning the moves it should at the specific lvls where it should occur? ([[User:-Cipher-|-Cipher-]] 21:14, 26 July 2010 (UTC)).
:::Are you looking at the [[Latios (Pokémon)/Generation III learnset|Gen III learnset?]] They do change between generations, and Colosseum's a gen III game, so it's different from what you see on the Latios page (the Gen IV learnset). If it's not that then I don't know what it is. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</sc> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 02:29, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
::::I dunno xD, i didn't even know there were different learnsets =P, but the last move it learned was dragon dance at lvl 55 after that nothing anymoe =( (am now lvl 84) and THX for the help so far ^^ -[[User:-Cipher-|-Cipher-]] 10:55, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::I was indeed ooking at the GEN IV learnset, will now check your gen III link (thx for that) Greetz [[User:-Cipher-|-Cipher-]] 11:22, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::PROBLEM SOlVED; yup Gen III matches my learnset, latios is bad in gen III though =( Thx for all the help [[User:-Cipher-|-Cipher-]] 11:31, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
==Deoxys Formes==
From what I've seen, Deoxys only appears in its Normal Forme in Colosseum. I have a couple of questions, though:
*If it comes from a GBA game, do its stats stay the same? (E.g. A Deoxys from FireRed keeps Attack Forme's stats)
**If yes, is the Speed Forme compatible since Emerald came about a year after Colosseum?
*If it's traded to Colosseum, would its stats change to the Normal Forme's? (I think so, but want to make sure.) [[User:MagicBarrier|MagicBarrier]] 16:40, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
== Pokemon Colosseum Rerun ==
I have ''dug up'' my Gamecube and Pokemon Colosseum game, and I plan on playing it through again. However, this time I would like to gather up as much information as I possibly can while doing so. It seems that many of the articles on Colosseum are lacking a substantial amount of information, as opposed to the GB-line of games. This is the primary reason I am going to record everything I come by, whether I would be proof-reading what is already on Bulbapedia, or adding something for the first time.
I have looked through the current articles on Colosseum, many of these being mixed with XD (which I may get to after I am done with Colosseum), and I have figured that the most important topics to record are:
*Characters - to record information on all characters in the game, as in what they do, their importance, what they look like, and so on, as demonstrated by the [[:Category:Colosseum_characters|Colosseum Characters]] category.
*Locations - to record all locations, including cities/towns, and key areas, as demonstrated by the [[:Category:Colosseum_locations|Colosseum Locations]] category.
*Pokemon - to record all Pokemon available through normal means of finishing the game (e.g. snag-able Pokemon).
*Trainers - to record the names and locations of trainers, rewards they give, Pokemon they have, the moves these Pokemon have, and so on...
Is there anything else I should be looking for? I am not interested in the topics such as prizes that can be redeemed via Poké Coupons, for example - as these can easily be recorded after the game has already been completed. I would rather focus on collecting information on the topics that grow throughout the storyline, as they change while progressing through the game, and usually become irreversible in that sense. Locations may fall under the former category, but while immersed in the storyline of Pokemon Colosseum, I will be in a more appropriate mindset for writing up information on locations as the story flows along (it should be a good escape from the monotonous work of recording the more statistical data).
Does anyone have any comments, ideas, or anything at all to add? I would just like to get some opinions and whatnot so I can make this project as productive as possible. Thank you.
<span style="color:#64A8FF;">&nbsp; → &nbsp; '''<span style="font-family:Calibri;">[[User:Zelkova|<span style="color:#006FFF;">Zelkova</span>]] &nbsp; [[User talk:Zelkova|<span style="color:#64A8FF;"><small>(Talk)</small></span>]]</span>''' &nbsp;</span> 17:39, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
: IMO, It would be nice to put information about where and from whom each snaggable Pokémon is received into the list. And the purified moves; right now it's not obvious how to get to them. The type, on the other hand, is not that important. --[[User:En-Cu-Kou|&#91;⁄⁄⁄&#93; En‐Cu‐Kou]] 08:44, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
shouldn't it say west not wes. [[User:kingsisle|kingsisle]]
: Wes is the name of the Main Character of the game. Not west. [[User:Chaossy|Chaossy]] ([[User talk:Chaossy|talk]]) 14:52, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
==Main series?==
Do Colosseum and XD qualify as main series games? I've seen them referred to as both, even within Bulbapedia, so I was wondering. (Or does this need to be on another talk page?) [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 02:46, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
:We discussed this on the forums, and came to the conclusion that there are three groups of games: main series, side series, and spin-off. Colosseum classed as a side series game, and despite everyone agreeing, nothing was ever done about it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 02:31, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
== In Other Languages ==
This article is, oddly, missing its "In Other Languages" section. I would add it myself, but I don't have the time make one.
For the record, the Korean title is: {{tt|포켓몬 콜로세움|Pokémon Colosseum}}
(Although this game wasn't released in Korea, this is still its official name in Korean.) -- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] 22:37, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
:Don't have to make the table by hand. Go to another article that has a "In Other Languages" section and copy the table. You can use that as a base for adding that to this one. Hope that helps. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 22:42, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
::I've added it. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 00:24, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

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I see no mention of how you're able to store Pokecoupons on your GBA.--ANinyMouse 23:14, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Ah, also, don't you think the information on the effectiveness of purification methods against the various types of Natures might be important? We can't very well add this informatioin to the Shadow Pokemon page yet, since it could change in Pokemon XD.--ANinyMouse 23:17, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)

BTW, just to make sure, you can transfer pokemon from colosseum to Ruby or Saphire using only a wire and GBA, right? Thanks. --Combine 108 03:06, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Why are we consistently referring to Rui as "the girl"? TraxScrip813 (talk) 11:42, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

The order...

Does anyone know where the other two Johto starters appear based on what you take in Phenac? Or does that not deserve a mention?--Blazevoir!! 02:05, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

If you pick Bayleef in Phenac: Quilava is found in the Snagem Hideout, Croconaw at the Shadow Pokémon Lab second visit.
If you pick Quilava in Phenac: Croconaw is found in the Snagem Hideout, Bayleef at the Shadow Pokémon Lab second visit.
If you pick Croconaw in Phenac: Bayleef is found in the Snagem Hideout, Quilava at the Shadow Pokémon Lab second visit.
--Shiningpikablu252 03:03, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

RIBBONS

it says nothing about ribbons here - unsigned comment from Emo-fairy (talkcontribs)

Now it does. --Phred 16:52, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
so i see. can you get any other ribbons? emoemo 14:14, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
No. --Phred 22:37, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
what a shame . if you cant get any other ribbons, why is the space for trhem so big? emoemo 12:25, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
So you can see all the Ribbons held by a Pokémon that came from Ruby/Sapphire and earned lots of them. --Phred 17:53, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
that makes sense.

player guide

where can you get the player guide for this game from? emoemo 14:09, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Leaf and Red

Where exactly do you see them? Lovely Rose 21:54, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

OT and ID #

What is the OT and ID # of Pokémon transferred to a GBA game? Like an Entei, etc. And what will the Pal Park data say? Distant Land? I'm trying to find out if an Entei and some other Pokémon I have are actually form Colosseum and not fakes... --Sivart345 20:17, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

The OT name and ID numbers for a snagged Pokémon from either Colosseum or XD: Gale of Darkness work the same way as for the handheld games. The only real difference is that the OT name for such a Pokémon is always highlighted with male colors, since the Gamecube games only allow you to play as male characters and all NPC Pokémon gifts in those games come from males. The Pal Park listing says it came from a "distant land" (as opposed to saying it's from Orre), but why did they opt for that and not actually list the country of origin like it does for Hoenn and Kanto? --Shiningpikablu252 21:15, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
Ok thanks. Seriously it should have been Orre. O_o Sivart345 18:59, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Trading

The XD article has trading, why doesnt this one have it? - unsigned comment from ????? (talkcontribs)

There's no trading in this game, I believe. ht14 01:09, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
There is... you can trade with the GBA games. I think it's only after you beat the game, though, but don't quote me on that. I never got that far on Colo, heh. ▫▪Ťïňắ 01:12, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
I think the user's referring to in-game trading, but that'd be the case for after you purify them all.... I think... ht14 01:14, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Unlimited second chances to snag the Pokemon?

Various websites, people and Bulbapedia state that some of the snaggable Pokemon can have second chances if you happen to miss snagging them. I do know those include Bayleef, Quilava, Croconaw and Hitmontop if I recall correctly. I'm just wondering though, do all of the snaggable Pokemon offer second chances at snagging them, and if so, do they offer unlimited tries of snagging them if you happen to miss them the second time? I think this should be detailed whether or not that applies in this article... Mudkipchan 00:47, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes, you do get unlimited chances to make the snag, and this applies to every single shadow Pokémon. Do note that some trainers relocate for different battles. For example, if you fail to snag from a Cipher Admin the first time, the second try is at Realgam Tower; fail there and you'll have to go to Deep Colosseum to make the snag, where you'll have as many attempts as you need as long as you can cycle through. --Shiningpikablu252 02:53, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Well that's a relief. Think that should be noted in the article? Because all it ever states are those evolved forms of the Johto starters having second chances. Mudkipchan 02:56, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Transferred Pokémon

I'm new here and i thought it'd be worth mentioning; All pokemon transfered from ruby saphire or emerald to colosseum get a 50% xp bonus when killing a pokemon in coloddeum ;-) (i haven't posted it yet though) but it could go under the compatibility section i guess Greetz -Cipher- 20:39, 26 July 2010 (UTC)).

New comments to the bottom of pages please. All Pokémon not from the same game get that bonus, whether they are traded from another handheld game or transferred from Colosseum. It's listed on the Experience page, and it deosn't really fit on here, given that the boost isn't exclusive to these Pokémon. Werdnae (talk) 20:51, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
Sry and sry again as i can't create the indent on my blackberry =/(computer's broke)[NVM THAT, if the coding is standard then i know what to do ^^] and didn't know about that so thx for the info ^^, got anothher question though, but i don't know if it belongs here =(; howcome my latios (training it in colosseum) isn't learning the moves it should at the specific lvls where it should occur? (-Cipher- 21:14, 26 July 2010 (UTC)).
Are you looking at the Gen III learnset? They do change between generations, and Colosseum's a gen III game, so it's different from what you see on the Latios page (the Gen IV learnset). If it's not that then I don't know what it is. Werdnae (talk) 02:29, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
I dunno xD, i didn't even know there were different learnsets =P, but the last move it learned was dragon dance at lvl 55 after that nothing anymoe =( (am now lvl 84) and THX for the help so far ^^ --Cipher- 10:55, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
I was indeed ooking at the GEN IV learnset, will now check your gen III link (thx for that) Greetz -Cipher- 11:22, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
PROBLEM SOlVED; yup Gen III matches my learnset, latios is bad in gen III though =( Thx for all the help -Cipher- 11:31, 27 July 2010 (UTC)


Deoxys Formes

From what I've seen, Deoxys only appears in its Normal Forme in Colosseum. I have a couple of questions, though:

  • If it comes from a GBA game, do its stats stay the same? (E.g. A Deoxys from FireRed keeps Attack Forme's stats)
    • If yes, is the Speed Forme compatible since Emerald came about a year after Colosseum?
  • If it's traded to Colosseum, would its stats change to the Normal Forme's? (I think so, but want to make sure.) MagicBarrier 16:40, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Pokemon Colosseum Rerun

I have dug up my Gamecube and Pokemon Colosseum game, and I plan on playing it through again. However, this time I would like to gather up as much information as I possibly can while doing so. It seems that many of the articles on Colosseum are lacking a substantial amount of information, as opposed to the GB-line of games. This is the primary reason I am going to record everything I come by, whether I would be proof-reading what is already on Bulbapedia, or adding something for the first time.

I have looked through the current articles on Colosseum, many of these being mixed with XD (which I may get to after I am done with Colosseum), and I have figured that the most important topics to record are:

  • Characters - to record information on all characters in the game, as in what they do, their importance, what they look like, and so on, as demonstrated by the Colosseum Characters category.
  • Locations - to record all locations, including cities/towns, and key areas, as demonstrated by the Colosseum Locations category.
  • Pokemon - to record all Pokemon available through normal means of finishing the game (e.g. snag-able Pokemon).
  • Trainers - to record the names and locations of trainers, rewards they give, Pokemon they have, the moves these Pokemon have, and so on...

Is there anything else I should be looking for? I am not interested in the topics such as prizes that can be redeemed via Poké Coupons, for example - as these can easily be recorded after the game has already been completed. I would rather focus on collecting information on the topics that grow throughout the storyline, as they change while progressing through the game, and usually become irreversible in that sense. Locations may fall under the former category, but while immersed in the storyline of Pokemon Colosseum, I will be in a more appropriate mindset for writing up information on locations as the story flows along (it should be a good escape from the monotonous work of recording the more statistical data).

Does anyone have any comments, ideas, or anything at all to add? I would just like to get some opinions and whatnot so I can make this project as productive as possible. Thank you.

  →   Zelkova   (Talk)   17:39, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

IMO, It would be nice to put information about where and from whom each snaggable Pokémon is received into the list. And the purified moves; right now it's not obvious how to get to them. The type, on the other hand, is not that important. --[⁄⁄⁄] En‐Cu‐Kou 08:44, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

shouldn't it say west not wes. kingsisle

Wes is the name of the Main Character of the game. Not west. Chaossy (talk) 14:52, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Main series?

Do Colosseum and XD qualify as main series games? I've seen them referred to as both, even within Bulbapedia, so I was wondering. (Or does this need to be on another talk page?) Ikarishipper900 02:46, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

We discussed this on the forums, and came to the conclusion that there are three groups of games: main series, side series, and spin-off. Colosseum classed as a side series game, and despite everyone agreeing, nothing was ever done about it. --SnorlaxMonster 02:31, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

In Other Languages

This article is, oddly, missing its "In Other Languages" section. I would add it myself, but I don't have the time make one.

For the record, the Korean title is: 포켓몬 콜로세움

(Although this game wasn't released in Korea, this is still its official name in Korean.) -- Nick15 22:37, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Don't have to make the table by hand. Go to another article that has a "In Other Languages" section and copy the table. You can use that as a base for adding that to this one. Hope that helps. Frozen Fennec 22:42, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
I've added it. Frozen Fennec 00:24, 13 March 2012 (UTC)