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Regions?

Do we have any word on what the new region(s) will be? It'll be based on unused portions of real-world Japan, will it? (Like Shikoku, for instance?) --Tanaka Shimoya 06:23, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Not yet, but maybe soon.--Midnight Blue 06:43, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
We knew the names of Diamond and Pearl back in 2005, in the earliest days of the wiki. We didn't get the name Sinnoh until after I had joined in 2006. That's how big a gap DP gave us. Given, this is due at the end of the year, but if we knew the region name I WOULD HAVE SAID SO. I can read Japanese, katakana specifically, and would have made that article immediately, if I knew any more than you guys do. TTEchidna 06:58, 9 April 2010 (UTC)


French intrawiki link

Hello ! Since this page is protected, can someone add Pokémon Noir et Blanc as french link, please ? Thanks Zhu' 15:55, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, there's a French page, and there's also a German page. Somebody should definitely add those two. Wolf 23:19, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Worth noting?

I was wondering if it was worth noting in the article that this is the first time 2 generations of Pokemon games have come out on the same system.--Pkmn

Pokémon Gold and Silver were both produced as enhanced Game Boy cartridges. So technically, Gen I & II are the first two generations to come out on the same system. - Kogoro | Talk to me - 19:20, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
Well, Gold and Silver were playable on the GB, but they were designed for and had more features on the Game Boy Color. These games (as far as we know) are being developed specifically for the DS. --Pkmn
And these games could easily have features for the 3DS. We're not mentioning it. --FabuVinny |Talk Page| 15:26, 10 April 2010 (UTC)


I was wondering if it is relevant to include in the trivia that the games were the 88th most popular searches in Google reported around 9 A.M but occupied this place around 8a.m - unsigned comment from EmpoleonMaster (talkcontribs)

While that is interesting I don't think it is worthy enough to not, but how did you figure this out? It's neat. Pokemon1234567890 01:43, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Just if anyone was wondering about where i obtained the information about the searches in the internet, i just came by this information while i was doing some research about it. Only to be more exact they were classified as mild in the "hot" or popular searches in Google, there was also provided a graphic about how much this increase was but i could not obtain it. - unsigned comment from EmpoleonMaster (talkcontribs)

Vehicles

Just thought i'd point out before it's mentioned on this page, but the shot of a bridge with cars driving underneath ISN'T the first vehicle in a Pokémon game, as most people seem to forget the moving van in the opening of the Hoenn games. A minor point, but one i always seem to remember :P Dawnshadow 13:52, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

How about the S.S. Anne Truck in the Kanto games? Pokemon1234567890 01:42, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

I just want to point out that the Corocoro page didn't say that it was the first vehicle in the games, just that there will be a vehicle that has never been seen in the games before - it could be a unicycle for all we know. 梅子 01:45, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Hmmm.........Skateboard anybody? =P --Theryguy512 02:22, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Or even a bus system. We shouldn't assume it will be a car. MaverickNate 12:01, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Irony

Would it be worth to note the irony in the fact that the first Pokémon games, named after colours, were in greyscale, and now these games, named after excessively dark and excessively light shades of grey, are in third-dimensional 1900+-bit colour? Giratina's Embodiment - Please don't hurt us... 02:00, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

OK, that's funny. But I don't think it's too notable. CuboneKing 02:13, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
It could probably be noted that they're the first games since Generation 1 to be named after colors, though? I know, technically, white and black aren't colors, but really no one except art students cares about that. Reign 02:21, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
Aren't gold and silver colors in addition to metals? Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 11:44, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
They're all colors, except most of them are also mineral colors. I think even "Fire Red" and "Leaf Green". -- Professional Mole (Talk here) 11:09, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Re:"white and black aren't colors".What, since when? --Solid! 11:15, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

White is the lack of color and black is a mixture of all colors Portuguese Old Man 20:37, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
Not in light. the opposite is true! :P ShinyPikachu 23:34, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Gray Version

Do not discuss that here. Just like people thought from the get-go that the third version of RS was gonna be a green gem (Emerald) and third version of DP was gonna have Giratina as a mascot (Platinum), people think from the get-go that the third version to Black and White will be Gray. Congratulations! There's a forum where you can talk about it. Bulbagarden Forums has a fifth generation subforum, and that is easily a better place to put your crappy speculation for a third version to games that don't come out until the end of the year when the last third version we got took two years after its primaries to be released. And it will be Gray if it is, because "grey" is a synonym for "old". TTEchidna 01:14, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

No need to get your panties in a bunch. By the way, "grey" is a perfectly acceptable variant of "gray." --Zelrio 16:16, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
Uh, I think TTEchidna's a male. magikarp123193 15:05, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Shiny legendary dogs to unlock feature in Black/White

As seen in recent Pokémon news, shiny legendary beasts, to be given away at the new movie's premiere in Japan, will unlock a feature in the upcoming Black and White. This info also tells us it will somehow be compatible for trade between Pokémon Diamond and Pearl, Pokémon Platinum, and Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver.

They have unique moves that are not normally known by Raikou, Suicune and Entei. Raikou will know Zap Cannon, Aura Sphere, and Weather Ball and will hold the Micle berry; Suicune will know Sheer Cold, Air Slash, and Aqua Ring and will hold the Rowap berry; and Entei will know Flare Blitz, Howl, and Crush Claw and will hold the Custap berry. All three will also know Extremespeed.

Please add this! - 050294 14:44, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Gameplay footage released on Pokémon Sunday

Pokémon Sunday released footage of the female player walking in a 3D city that had some Pikachu animated billboards.

Video seen here. - 050294 02:46, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

You sure that was animated? CuboneKing 04:21, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
I just checked that and the billboard above the Pokémon Center in that city is pretty stationary, it is a Pikachu billboard though. –MasterKenobi 04:36, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Oh well. I guess I was seeing things. - 050294 07:39, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
So I guess your Pokemon wont follow you anymore... Blade Bro.
Maybe, maybe not. Let's leave the speculation to the forums.... *points at banner at the top of the page* —darklordtrom 22:25, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

What Is This For?

Is this for the soon-to-be-released Nintendo 3DS or for just the normal DSs? User:Legendary Catcher 0:57:10 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Not confirmed yet, I don't think. Littlmiget123 00:59, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
Right now it appears it's for the DS, but a lot of people, such as me, think that it's going to have extra features on the 3DS. CuboneKing 01:00, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
It was confirmed for DS since before we even had the titles. Reign 08:12, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
And it says so in the article. Wow!
This line of correspondence is now CLOSED. —darklordtrom 10:32, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Tentative websites

Please put these (hidden, of course) as the possible sites for the translations:

http://www.pokemonblackwhite.com/ for Global (placeholder)

http://www.pokemonblackwhite.eu/ for Europe (redirect)

http://www.pokemonblackwhite.co.uk/ for the UK(redirect)

Most likely, all registered correctly.--immewnitythemew 01:37, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

It's official. These are the sites.--immewnitythemew 22:01, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
These all just redirect to the new English page. If anything is added it should be http://www.pokemon.com/blackwhite/en/ (which is the English site, by the way). --|6259 20:56, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Isshu Region

CoroCoro just confirmed that the games will be in the Isshu Region. - unsigned comment from Pokemonemerfan1954 (talkcontribs)

Thanks, I'll update the appropriate pages. —darklordtrom 11:12, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Starter Pics

I just thought that maybe since CoroCoro showed the New Starter Pics and The New Characters they maybe could be added to the page. But im not saying they should forcibly. CodyDelis

Sprites

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Could someone replace the current sprites for revealed Pokémon with these? They're cleaned-up PNGs, in contrast to the ones we currently have, which still have JPG pixelization when zoomed in. And it's not letting me upload them myself, I assume because of the whole new Pokémon thing. Reign 18:11, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

The Archives are locked until Monday, so I suggest maybe you contact an active admin right now, if you want them uploaded. Jello 18:18, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

New site link

http://www.pokemon-sp.jp/series/bw/

I can't edit the main page, so I'll let somebody who can put this on in place of the current link. (The link as it is now leads to a very old website, and this one has all the new information, etc.) Ztobor 19:43, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Never mind, the site redirects. Ztobor 03:23, 18 May 2010 (UTC)


Images

Hi. Does anyone remember me? Well, if you take a look on the PKMN Black & White Version article on the "Pokémon Wiki" on Wikia you can find other images. I suggest getting permission from the site first before using the images here. Just to let you all know! T-SAN! 22:48, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

No I don't. Also, we are fine we can get our own images no need to get them from Wikia of all places. Thanks, --Coolピカチュウ! 22:49, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
(conflicted) I do... And we just don't really consider Pokémon Wiki to be too realiable... CuboneKing 22:52, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
Okay, whatever you guys like. I don't think of it as realiable as this one either, but you can always look at the images if you want to, it gives more of an idea of what the games will look like. --T☆MMYSAN! 02:01, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
I think people already know how the games are going to be since like yesterday. --Coolピカチュウ! 02:03, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
Pokemon Wiki probably just stole them off of someone else, sort of like how all of their info is stolen from us. -- MAGNEDETH 06:14, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
Considering they have an image of Sinnoh as their pic of Isshu (File:IsshuRegion.jpg on their site), they're not to be trusted for some stuff.--immewnitythemew 22:01, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

New Pokemon

http://www.pokemon.com/blackwhite/en/

Would somebody like to confirm the validity of these images?--Skaisdead 16:33, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

It's on the Japanese site too with the same exact images, so.. yes, it's confirmed. That... was sudden.... ▫▫ティナ 16:45, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

They are official. Reshiram, and Zekrom. Confirmed on the Japanese site as well. Mefredbob 16:47, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Is this the first time that the English and Japanese names of any Pokémon are confirmed simultaneously? This is so friggin' awesome! - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talkcontribs) 16:57, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
It's weird. Have the starters or Zoroark even been confirmed in the US yet? - unsigned comment from Skaisdead (talkcontribs)
No, they haven't. And I would like to add an important piece of info on this page. It turns out that the Boxarts have been revealed ShinyPikachu 18:40, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

European release date

Spring 2011 as well TheChrisD RantsEdits 17:56, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

And that press release also confirms that these Pokémon are going to be on the cover, they state on which cover, and that they're legendaries. Fairly obvious, yes, but in here that everything needs super official confirmation, it is nice to have it (I think there had not been an official confirmation of that before this). Memo326 18:04, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
It's a little strange that there was no mention of they being the cover pokémon for each version in both the Japanese press (and I read the Japanese official site) or American press, but there is a quick note about it on the UK site... Even though it's obvious that they both will be on the covers, I don't really feel like this being confirmation. They just say which will appear in which game, not the cover. But maybe that's just me.--KurowaSan 19:14, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
The boxart is here, for the Japanese versions:[1] Jello 19:16, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Website Links

Somebody should update the links section with the new English website for these games. (http://www.pokemon.com/blackwhite/en//) 6259 21:36, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

That's the minisite. A full site will be made at http://www.pokemonblackwhite.com/ eventually.--immewnitythemew 22:01, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
Or there might be construction at http://www.pokemonbw.com/ .--immewnitythemew 12:42, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
It is probably just construction because when I just tried to get onto that site IE8 said that the "site is forbidden." Probably, it will be up in the next few days. Thanks for the update. 6259 21:00, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Trivia

Should we add that this is the first time the games have been revealed in America before the Japanese games actually came out? — AxxonntheAwesometrainer 18:04, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

No. HGSS were the first games...--Psyライダー 18:11, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

we could put that reshiram and zekrom were the first pokemon to be revealed around the world at the same time in japan? (Ataro 19:13, 29 May 2010 (UTC))

Why here though? Irrelevant... ht14 19:16, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
As for the part about Reshiram and Zekrom, it's already added on their articles that are currently in my sandbox. Jello 19:30, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

DS or 3DS

Despite this article saying that this game can be played on Nintendo DS, I read the page Nintendo 3DS, and saw that the game is played on 3DS not DS. Or is it the game can be played by both DS or 3DS? I am confused. Can somebody tell whether this game is played on DS or 3DS?

Tetrix 09:39, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

This game is going to release on DS. Check out the official cover boxes of both games, it's DS. ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 09:53, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
But yes, it should be able to be played on the 3DS anyway; Nintendo has confirmed that most DS games can be played on the 3DS. Whether it's enhanced in any way by this remains to be seen. --AndyPKMN 12:56, 30 May 2010 (UTC)


Zekrom Link

The link that's supposed to link to Zekrom under the boxarts apparently leads to a page that does not exist, but when you click it, it does lead to Zekrom's Pokemon page. I assume someone made the links before they created the Zekrom page, so it stayed red. Could somebody please change this?--MewSoul 14:16, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

All you have to do is purge the page. That makes the most current revision appear. You can purge the page by pressing the clock next to your username. Turtwig's A-B-Cs (talk | contribs) 15:07, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Slight edit.

The first paragraphs of the article:

In addition, Pokémon battles will be fully animated, with Pokémon on both sides constantly moving, with a dynamic camera that changes focus to highlight specific parts of the battle.

In addition to the improved graphics, a number of aesthetic changes have been made from previous generations, including an altered battle scene, speech balloons for dialog, and a combined Pokémon Center and Poké Mart building.

Are almost the same, I suggest merging this into one paragraph, so we don't fall into redundances. wat 18:02, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Names in other languages

In other languages

Language Title
Japan Flag.png Japanese ポケットモンスター ブラック・ホワイト
France Flag.png French Pokémon Version Noire et Version Blanche
Germany Flag.png German Pokémon Schwarze Edition und Weiβe Edition
Italy Flag.png Italian Pokémon Versione Nera e Versione Bianca
Spain Flag.png Spanish Pokémon Edición Negra y Edición Blanca

Since the games have been announced internationally, with the current exception being South Korea, can an admin add this to the article, please? ポケモンあいこうか 14:38, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Okay, we got a problem here with the background color. We need the background to be white, or at least, ghost white... ポケモンあいこうか 14:55, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

3D Buildings?

Did anybody else notice that the inside of the Pokémon Center is 3D? Should we add that information? Pawsrent 16:22, 25 June 2010 (UTC)


Release date!

Pokemon Sunday revealed that the release date for Black and White in Japan is September 18th, 2010. Can someone please edit this in? --Jonouchi 23:39, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Done. Werdnae (talk) 23:53, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Inverted Pairings

Generation V is the first time that the pairings between version color and version mascot are inverted. (I.E. Reshiram, the White Dragon, is the version mascot of Pokémon Black while Zekrom, the Black Dragon, is the version mascot of Pokémon White.)--Arima 02:51, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it is some Honkey shit crap. --Zelrio 13:19, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
I think that's to fit the "Ying Yang" thing. Reshiram being the white circle in the black, and Zekrom being the black circle in the white. --KengoMel 10:42, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Chiramyi

Someone edited the page, claiming this to be the correct romanisation. However, nowhere else is this used, and Chiramii is a more accurate romanisation for before the official one is released. --SnorlaxMonster 08:38, 15 July 2010 (UTC)