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==Tutor==
Does anybody know what pokemon can learn this by the move tutor in emerald?--[[User:Acfan|Acfan]] 22:58, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
Does anybody know what pokemon can learn this by the move tutor in emerald?--[[User:Acfan|Acfan]] 22:58, 29 June 2006 (UTC)


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==Metronome and Sketch==
==Metronome and Sketch==
The article states that Metronome can call on any move other than itself and Struggle, but I was curious to know what the situation is regarding Sketch. Can it be called? If so, does it automatically fail? Whatever the answer, it could make an interesting (if minor) addition to the article. '''[[User:Bikini Miltank|Bikini Miltank]]'''[[Image:Ani241MS.gif]]<small>[[User_Talk:Bikini Miltank|<font color="#ff7755">Moo, I say.</font>]]</small> 23:44, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
The article states that Metronome can call on any move other than itself and Struggle, but I was curious to know what the situation is regarding Sketch. Can it be called? If so, does it automatically fail? Whatever the answer, it could make an interesting (if minor) addition to the article. '''[[User:Bikini Miltank|Bikini Miltank]]'''<small>[[User_Talk:Bikini Miltank|<font color="#ff7755">Moo, I say.</font>]]</small> 23:44, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
:This is a good question and I wonder why nobody has answered since November [[User:The Dark Fiddler|Rawr I say!]] 22:42, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
:This is a good question and I wonder why nobody has answered since November [[User:The Dark Fiddler|Rawr I say!]] 22:42, 20 September 2008 (UTC)


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Can this move be called on from Metronome? I'm wondering since it's similar to Counter and Mirror Coat. [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#B69E00"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#E1E1E1"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 00:48, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
Can this move be called on from Metronome? I'm wondering since it's similar to Counter and Mirror Coat. [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#B69E00"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#E1E1E1"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 00:48, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
Just right now my togekisss Utopia used metronome and used metal burst. I was facing the elite four in my diamond just to see what moves i would get. Utopia was first and used metronome, then metal burst. It failed. [[User:Mikewolf|Mikewolf]]


==Using moves a Pokémon already knows?==
==Using moves a Pokémon already knows?==
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I distinctly remember in LeafGreen when I had a Clefairy that knew Metronome, Water Pulse, and Meteor Mash, and on more than one occasion Metronome called upon at least both Water Pulse and Meteor Mash one time each.  Anyone care to investigate? --[[User:Falchiar|&#91;&#91;User:Falchiar&#93;&#93;( &#91;&#91;User talk:Falchiar&#93;&#93; )]] 20:34, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
I distinctly remember in LeafGreen when I had a Clefairy that knew Metronome, Water Pulse, and Meteor Mash, and on more than one occasion Metronome called upon at least both Water Pulse and Meteor Mash one time each.  Anyone care to investigate? --[[User:Falchiar|&#91;&#91;User:Falchiar&#93;&#93;( &#91;&#91;User talk:Falchiar&#93;&#93; )]] 20:34, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
:I vaugely recall a Magmar I had in Gold.  Its Metronome frequently called up ThunderPunch, despite the fact that it already knew the move.  <small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' </small> 02:25, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
:I vaugely recall a Magmar I had in Gold.  Its Metronome frequently called up ThunderPunch, despite the fact that it already knew the move.  <small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' </small> 02:25, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
it may be that metronome cant use any move in a pokemons natural learn set, but can use moves that the pokemon can learn through tm's and hm's [[User:Slowking770|Slowking770]] 20:29, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
::it may be that metronome cant use any move in a pokemons natural learn set, but can use moves that the pokemon can learn through tm's and hm's [[User:Slowking770|Slowking770]] 20:29, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
:::I don't think it is the suggestion above. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 10:28, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
I took out the section saying that metronome will not select any moves known by the user because in White version, my Togepi with metronome has called moves that it knows with metronome. I don't think I am wrong, but someone correct me if I am for whatever reason. -[[User:Maddiesapphire|Maddiesapphire]] ([[User talk:Maddiesapphire|talk]]) 16:10, 12 July 2012 (UTC)


==Notable?==
==Notable?==
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In Generation III, I have a Snorlax that knows both Metronome and Surf (the other moves aren't important). Now, the article states that Pokémon cannot Metronome moves it already knows, but it Metronomed Surf. Now that I think of it, for a while it only '''used''' the moves it already knew. [[User:Pawsrent|Pawsrent]] 22:13, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
In Generation III, I have a Snorlax that knows both Metronome and Surf (the other moves aren't important). Now, the article states that Pokémon cannot Metronome moves it already knows, but it Metronomed Surf. Now that I think of it, for a while it only '''used''' the moves it already knew. [[User:Pawsrent|Pawsrent]] 22:13, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
== Dark Void used by metronome? ==
I was trainning my togetic and had him use metronome and I noticed he used Dark Void. It's not listed as a possible move that can show up when using metronome, anyone else get this move when using metronome? I was playing on SoulSilver by the way and it did put the opponent to sleep.--[[User:Fyre Dancer|Fyre Dancer]] 23:28, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
:The list on the page is a list of moves that ''can't'' be used through Metronome. It's done that way because the other 525 odd moves all can be, and so it is more efficient to list them that way. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 23:32, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
== Metronome and Assist ==
On the list for metronome, Assist is the very first move that cannot be used via Metronome, but in my FireRed, I had a Hitmonchan that knew Metronome (via the tutor) and it used Assist, then my Venusaur's Giga Drain. [[User:Dracometeor12|Dracometeor12]] 22:45, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
I believe in Generation III Assist was not on the list of impossible moves...just a thought though. [[User:ISB|ISB]] 22:59, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
== Metronome and Judgment ==
I know that Metronome could be used to execute Judgment in Gen IV, but I've notice that Gen V excludes a lot of signature moves that work differently for their respective Pokemon (e.g. Techno Blast for Genesect, Relic Song for Meloetta). Is Judgment still on the list of usable moves for Metronome? What about Grudge, which functions like Destiny Bond? [[User:Gymnotide|Gymnotide]] 09:33, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
:I'm not sure about the others, but I've had Judgment selected by Metronome before in Gen V --[[User:Maddiesapphire|Maddiesapphire]] ([[User talk:Maddiesapphire|talk]]) 03:17, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
== Gen II and III description trivia ==
Should it be mentioned in the trivia that the GSC description and all the Gen III descriptions say that it can use any Pokémon move when that's not true?[[User:Micamike45|Micamike45]] ([[User talk:Micamike45|talk]]) 18:55, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
:Sure, why not. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 01:25, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
== Missing Generation VI moves ==
Can we change the template for research for any of the Generation VI moves that can't be selected, I placed the incomplete template so this can be changed into a research template. --[[User:Cinday123|<span style="color:pink">Cinday123</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Cinday123|<span style="color:lightblue">Talk</span>]])''</small> 09:31, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
== Metronome and Hold Back ==
Metronome does copy Hold Back, my Togepi just pulled it off (for barely any damage). I hope that helps the Gen VI research. '''''<font color="#705898"><sub>[[Shadow Sneak (move)|Sneaking]] from page to page... It's the page-editing purple ghost...</sub> [[User:Gengarzilla|Gengar]][[User talk:Gengarzilla|zilla!]]'''''</font> 23:39, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
:Yeah, I remember that coming up before Hold Back was officially available. It and Celebrate could both be called by Metronome. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 10:13, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
== Metronome (move) and Metronome (item) ==
I'm probably not the first one to wonder this, but would the Metronome item boost the move selected by the Metronome move or not? The UI has the same move (Metronome) selected, while the battle, in one sense, had the choosen move used instead. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] ([[User talk:TruePikachu|talk]]) 05:25, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
== Metronome accuracy ==
I was training my mew (around level 35) in the freind safari, I use metronome, it turns into gullitone, it hits. This happened again in the same circumstances only with sheer cold instead, and a third time in a link battle. So I now think that moves called by metronome have 100% accuracy. Can someone verify this for me?
[[User:Prussiahena|Prussiahena]] ([[User talk:Prussiahena|talk]]) 22:55, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

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Tutor

Does anybody know what pokemon can learn this by the move tutor in emerald?--Acfan 22:58, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Try looking up Metronome on Serebii.net's Attackdex.--Pokencyclopedia 23:48, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
See, this is exactly why we need to put some useful information in these entries, so we don't have to refer people to other sites. --Argy 04:59, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Metronome and Sketch

The article states that Metronome can call on any move other than itself and Struggle, but I was curious to know what the situation is regarding Sketch. Can it be called? If so, does it automatically fail? Whatever the answer, it could make an interesting (if minor) addition to the article. Bikini MiltankMoo, I say. 23:44, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

This is a good question and I wonder why nobody has answered since November Rawr I say! 22:42, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Contradictory statements

It says metronome can use a move that has been disabled, but it also says that it can't use a move that the user knows. How can it use a move that's disabled if it can't use a move the user know!?! Unless it means a disabled move the opponent has, in which case it's not worth mentioning. [[Derian]]

I think it means that if the Pokémon used say, Water Gun through Metronome and then the opponent used Disable, Water Gun could still be used through Metronome. However, the article is not very clear and the line saying that it can use a disabled move may need removing. --SnorlaxMonster. Help here 08:57, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

In reference to both of the above topics . . .

I think the effects for this move need to be split into Generations. I don't think all the moves on the chart are withhelf from Metronome in all generations. for example, I'm fairly certain I remember there being a great deal of controversy in Generation II when people figured out that Metronome could Sketch a move, technically expanding several Pokémon's movesets if going completely by RAW and ignoring the spirit of the learnsets. Also, I'm not completely sure Metronome couldn't select a move you already know in all the Generations. So, overall, what I'm looking for is some one who really knows his Metronome to take a look at this article. Schreiber 23:37, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Metal Burst

Can this move be called on from Metronome? I'm wondering since it's similar to Counter and Mirror Coat. ht14 00:48, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Just right now my togekisss Utopia used metronome and used metal burst. I was facing the elite four in my diamond just to see what moves i would get. Utopia was first and used metronome, then metal burst. It failed. Mikewolf

Using moves a Pokémon already knows?

I distinctly remember in LeafGreen when I had a Clefairy that knew Metronome, Water Pulse, and Meteor Mash, and on more than one occasion Metronome called upon at least both Water Pulse and Meteor Mash one time each. Anyone care to investigate? --[[User:Falchiar]]( [[User talk:Falchiar]] ) 20:34, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

I vaugely recall a Magmar I had in Gold. Its Metronome frequently called up ThunderPunch, despite the fact that it already knew the move. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talkcontribs) 02:25, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
it may be that metronome cant use any move in a pokemons natural learn set, but can use moves that the pokemon can learn through tm's and hm's Slowking770 20:29, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
I don't think it is the suggestion above. --SnorlaxMonster 10:28, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

I took out the section saying that metronome will not select any moves known by the user because in White version, my Togepi with metronome has called moves that it knows with metronome. I don't think I am wrong, but someone correct me if I am for whatever reason. -Maddiesapphire (talk) 16:10, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Notable?

I think it's notable that Metronome could come up Judgement, Arceus's signature move...BEFORE Arceus was officialy revealed. Flyingtypefan 08:05, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Not so much. The code for Judgment was still in the game, as was the coding for Arceus. —darklordtrom 08:51, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
Also, Dark Void and Seed Flare could also be used through Metronome before Darkrai and Shaymin were revealed if you're going to go there. But I don't think that it's trivia worthy anyway. --SnorlaxMonster 12:06, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

You may have misunderstood-of course the coding was already in the game, but the point was that the Pokemon that can use them weren't officialy revealed yet, but the moves could be discovered before that, which would mean everyone would know that there was going to be a new Pokemon. I thought that it was trivia worthy. Flyingtypefan 07:10, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Metronome could use Psycho Boost/Doom Desire in Gen III before Deoxys and Jirachi were revealed... Metronome could pick Blast Burn/Frenzy Plant/Hydro Cannon before they were officially available... hell Metronome could pick Volt Tackle before Emerald was released. This is nothing new. ▫▫ティナ 02:05, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Umm...

In Generation III, I have a Snorlax that knows both Metronome and Surf (the other moves aren't important). Now, the article states that Pokémon cannot Metronome moves it already knows, but it Metronomed Surf. Now that I think of it, for a while it only used the moves it already knew. Pawsrent 22:13, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Dark Void used by metronome?

I was trainning my togetic and had him use metronome and I noticed he used Dark Void. It's not listed as a possible move that can show up when using metronome, anyone else get this move when using metronome? I was playing on SoulSilver by the way and it did put the opponent to sleep.--Fyre Dancer 23:28, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

The list on the page is a list of moves that can't be used through Metronome. It's done that way because the other 525 odd moves all can be, and so it is more efficient to list them that way. Werdnae (talk) 23:32, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Metronome and Assist

On the list for metronome, Assist is the very first move that cannot be used via Metronome, but in my FireRed, I had a Hitmonchan that knew Metronome (via the tutor) and it used Assist, then my Venusaur's Giga Drain. Dracometeor12 22:45, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

I believe in Generation III Assist was not on the list of impossible moves...just a thought though. ISB 22:59, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Metronome and Judgment

I know that Metronome could be used to execute Judgment in Gen IV, but I've notice that Gen V excludes a lot of signature moves that work differently for their respective Pokemon (e.g. Techno Blast for Genesect, Relic Song for Meloetta). Is Judgment still on the list of usable moves for Metronome? What about Grudge, which functions like Destiny Bond? Gymnotide 09:33, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure about the others, but I've had Judgment selected by Metronome before in Gen V --Maddiesapphire (talk) 03:17, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Gen II and III description trivia

Should it be mentioned in the trivia that the GSC description and all the Gen III descriptions say that it can use any Pokémon move when that's not true?Micamike45 (talk) 18:55, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Sure, why not. --Spriteit (talk) 01:25, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Missing Generation VI moves

Can we change the template for research for any of the Generation VI moves that can't be selected, I placed the incomplete template so this can be changed into a research template. --Cinday123 (Talk) 09:31, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

Metronome and Hold Back

Metronome does copy Hold Back, my Togepi just pulled it off (for barely any damage). I hope that helps the Gen VI research. Sneaking from page to page... It's the page-editing purple ghost... Gengarzilla! 23:39, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, I remember that coming up before Hold Back was officially available. It and Celebrate could both be called by Metronome. --SnorlaxMonster 10:13, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

Metronome (move) and Metronome (item)

I'm probably not the first one to wonder this, but would the Metronome item boost the move selected by the Metronome move or not? The UI has the same move (Metronome) selected, while the battle, in one sense, had the choosen move used instead. --TruePikachu (talk) 05:25, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

Metronome accuracy

I was training my mew (around level 35) in the freind safari, I use metronome, it turns into gullitone, it hits. This happened again in the same circumstances only with sheer cold instead, and a third time in a link battle. So I now think that moves called by metronome have 100% accuracy. Can someone verify this for me?

Prussiahena (talk) 22:55, 10 February 2015 (UTC)